Western Mail Tuesday June 8th 1926. PHOTOGRAPH  PAGE. Weddings at Llandaff Cathedral. Mr. W.J.C. MILLS, hon, secretary of the Cardiff Motor Cycle Club, was married at Llandaff Cathedral on Monday to Miss Irene Hilda May SLOGGETT, of Cardiff. The bridemaids were Miss Phyllis BEVAN, Miss Phyllis BRIDGE, and Miss WILKS, and the best man was Mr. R.S. BEVAN. Mr. Edward David JONES, eldest son of Mr. and Mrs. J.A. JONES, of The Nook, Llandaff, and Miss Marjorie I. P. ANDERSON, of Gileston-road, Cardiff, leaving Llandaff Cathedral after their wedding on Monday. Forthcoming Wedding. Mr. Frank Claxton MEGGITT, youngest son of Mr. J.C. MEGGITT, J.P. of Seacroft, Barry, and Miss Margaret LLEWELYN (Peggy) LEWIS, second daughter of Mr. Henry G. LEWIS, J.P., and Mrs. LEWIS, Porthkerry, whose wedding will take place at Porthkerry Church on Thursday, June 24. (Photo: SWAINE). Newsagents in Conference at Porthcawl.- some of the delegates. Councillor D. ROGERS (Ynysbwl), Mr. W.R. GRIFFITHS (Abercwboi), Mr. J.E. WILLIAMS (Skewen), Mr. Idris TY. DAVIES (Aberbargoed), Mr. T.L. EVANS (Neath). Some of the local officers. Councillor W.T. ACE (Barry), Mr. Rhys JOHN (Port Talbot), Mr. D.J. RICHARDS (Treorky), and Mr. T. PRYCE-WILLIAMS (Neath). How three workman defrauded the Labour Exchange of 3s. whilst actually engaged on a contract that brought them in £1 a day each for three days, was described in a prosecution at Ystrad Police-court on Monday vwhen William Rees DAVIES, William James LENTON, and William OWENS, colliers, of Clydach Vale, were charged with making a false declaration to the Labour Exchange in order to obtain unemployment benefit on March 25. Mr. David REES (Messrs. W.R. DAVIES, and Co.), who prosecuted,explained that the three defendants were working on a contract for which they received £1 a day each when the application for unemployment relief was made on March 25. In binding defendants over, the Chairman (Mr. Enoch DAVIES) characterised their offence as being particularly mean. They were ordered to refund the 3s., and to pay 6s.6d. costs each. While taking a walk near Glyncorrwg, Mr. Austin WILLIAMS was bitten in the ankle by an adder. Friends who were with Mr. WILLIAMS rendered first aid, and after treatment by a doctor the patient is on the road to recovery. Sales by Tender. For Sale by Tender, the Stock-in-Trade of a Fancy Dealer, comprising mainly Watches, Clocks, Jewellery, Fancy Goods and Toys, and valued at cost at £1,000. Offers are Invited for the Whole or Part, and Further Particulars may be obtained from W.H. LOVELUCK (Trustee under a Deed of Assignment), Corporate Accountant, Porthcawl. John Patrick.

Western Mail Tuesday June 8th 1926. After a long search in a disused pit close to Talyfraw Farm, near Swansea, the body of Jenkin H. HOPKINS, a collier was discovered on Monday. HOPKINS, who was 25 years of age, had been missing from his home at Gorse, Cockett, Swansea, since Saturday evening.. Search parties scoured the district, and found the man's hat near the pit, and concentrated their efforts at that point. The disused pit has an aperture of scarcely 2ft. at the top. It is about 50ft. deep, and has water at the bottom. A canary was was lowered to the bottom of the hole, and it having survived the test for foul air, Mr. Ben DAVIES , an old collier, volunteered to descend and was lowered in a "bowk." He remained there about a dozen yards below  for three-quarters of an hour, and then came up. Afterwards Thomas ELLIOTT and Ben DAVIES went down and contiued the search. They found a quantity of old timber and barbed wire in the water, but failed to find a body, but though it might possibly be underneath, and at four p.m., after some hours of work in the pit, the body of a man was discovered. An inquest will be held. HOPKINS, a married man, with two children, was to undergo an operation at Swansea Hospital from the effects of an accident at a local colliery some time ago. Stanley WISHART 20, and George Edward WATKINS 19, were charged at Cardiff with breaking and entering the refreshment pavilion in the Cardiff Arms Park on Saturday night and stealing eight pairs of shoes, an odd shoe, four tennis racquets, an umbrella, a blazer, and other articles of the value of £17.15s., the property of Alfred MILSOM.. Police-constable NORMAN saw the boys sitting on the grass in the Cardiff Arms Park early on Sunday morning. They ran away, and where they had been sitting he found a number of shoes, tennis racquets, a box of biscuits, a bottle of lemonade, two bunches oif keys, and other things. Later WISHART and WATKINS were arrested. WISHART said they had been walking about all night. WATKINS said he had been with WISHART. The prisoners were remanded in custody until tomorrow (Wednesday). Mr. W.E. GOODWIN, of 42, Burnaby-street, Cardiff won the second prize at the Raleigh motor-cycle rally at Monsal Dale, Derbyshire. Mr. GOODWIN, with Miss A. MORRIS of 53, Coburn-street, Cardiff had covered a distance of 220 miles. Thomas John EVANS, of Baneswell-street, Newport, and Daviud LOGAN, Evans-street, Newport, were committed to the assizes at Newport County Police-court on Monday charged with stealing a horse the property of the Ebbw Vale Iron and Steel Company. Prisoners pleared guilty. It was stated they took the horse from among 72 others grazing in a field. His Honour J. Lloyd MORGAN, K.C., awarded £60 damages to Ernest James MARTIN, of Treheullw, St. David's, auctioneer, against Messrs. COX and Sons, milk vendors of Cardiff, who have a centre at Haverfordwest, the result of a collision between defendant's lorry and plaintiff's car, on the road between St. David's and Haverfordwest. Mr. Trevor Harries, Swansea, instructed by Messrs. Eaton EVANS and WILLIAMS, Haverfordwest, appeared for plaintiff, and Mr. Hubert Ll. WILLIAMS, Swansea, instructed by Colonel WE. JONES, Haverfordwest, for the defendants. Two unemployed colliers of Abertillery lost their lives on Monday afternoon by the collapse of the sides of a hole in an old disused pit situate at the rear of the picturesque Six Bells Recreation Ground Abertillery, while digging for coal for domestic use. Another man who went to their aid had a miraculous escaspe from death. The victim were:- Frank ALLEN 42, of 5, Blenheim-road, Six Bells, married man, with  a wife and six young children, and William Henry SNELGROVE 22, of 5, Prretorias-road, Six Bells, married man, with three children. The men had dug a hole about 20ft in diameter and had reached a depth of about 15ft. Whether they had timbered is not yet clear. Without any warning the sides collapsed and buried both men. Charles BIRD, of Windsor-road, Six Bells, heard them scream, and without regard for his own surface he jumped into the rapidly filling cavity in hopes of saving them. Before, however he had gone far he was caught by a second fall and was covered with earth for a considerable time. Another man, Howard HARRIS, heard the crash and was able to get hold of BIRD and prevent him from being further covered in. More assistance was quickly forthcoming, and BIRD was extricated without any apparent injury. He joined a large number of men who, armed with picks and shovels, dug their way down the hole hoping to reach the victims alive. Unfortunately, their strenuous efforts proved in vain, for after 2 1/2 hours of hard work, they disclosed the two men both dead, in an upright position about three yards from one another. About 50 tons of earth had fallen on them and their death must have had occurred quickly.. John Patrick

Been having problems lately with sending my News Items. Mailer Daemon. John Patrick  ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: J GRIFFITHS <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 17 February, 2010 17:12:02 Subject: News Items APRIL 1st to JUNE 30th 1926. Number Two-Hundred ninetythree. Western Mail Tuesday June 8th 1926. FAMILY ANNOUNCEMENTS.-continued. DEATHS. FAVIES.- On June 6, at Cardiff Royal Infirmary, John DAVIES, of Heol-y-Llan, Coity. Funeral on Thursday, June 10, leaving the house at 2.30 for Coity; G.O. GAYDON.- On June 6th, at Glasfryn, Dinas Powis, , Thomas William, aged 74 years. GRIFFITHS.- On June 6th, at 56, Aldsworth road, Canton, Daniel, the beloved husband of Mary GRIFFITHS. Funeral Thursday, Three o'clock; G.O. HOPPER.- On June 4th, Mary, dearly-beloved wife of Christopher John HOPPER, 29, Hill-street, Aberaman, after a long and painful illness. Funeral Wednesday, Twelve Noon; strictly private. HUGHES.- On June 6th, at 302, Gladstone-road, Barry, Jane, beloved wife of Edward HUGHES. Funeral Wednesday, Three o'clock, Barry Cemetery; G.O.  N.F. HUMPHREYS.- June 5th, at Plymouth Royal Naval Hospital, Morgan HUMPHREYS. Funeral leaves 10, Cemetery-road, Porth, 2.3. Thursday, Llethrddu Cemetery; G. O. JAMES.- Tom JAMES, Dispenser at Dr. WATKINS, 15, Chapel-street, Tonypandy, died June 6th. Funeral Two p.m. for Trealaw; G.O. JENKINS.- On June 6th, at Rowena House, Victoria-street, Trealaw, Richard, the beloved husband of the late Catherine JENKINS, of Llanon. Public funeral Thursday, June 10th, Trealaw Cemetery. JENKINS.- On June 7, at 57, Station-street, Maesteg, accidently, John Rhys, youngest child of the late W.R. and Mrs. DAVIES, and grandson of Mr. and Mrs. DAVIES, Llwydarth Farm. Funeral Thursday at Four p.m. for Llangynwyd; G.O. JONES.- On June 6th, at 87, Bartlett-street, Caerphilly, Jane Sophia, aged 76. Funeral Thursday, Two o'clock, for St. Martin's Church. LEWIS.- On 7th June, 1926, beloved darling Mary, age six years, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. E.J. LEWIS, Foretop, Rhiwbina. LEWIS.- At Mulberry House, Little Mill, near Pontypool, Mary Florence, dearly-loved wife of Roger LEWIS. Funeral for Gellgaer Church Tuesday, June 8th (private at house 1.30). Friends kindly meet at Church Three o'clock p.m. LLEWLLYN- Suddenly, on June 6th, at 4, Mill-street, Trecynon, Aberdare, Alice, eldest daughter of the late Mr. and Mrs. Lewis LLEWELLYN. Funeral Thursday, leaving house 12.30 for Llanwonno; Private. LORD.- On June 7th, at Upper Perry Hill, Southville, Bristol, William LORD, in his nintieth year.- Fifty years with William BUTLER and Co. Ltd., Bristol. PARRY.-June 6, 2, Maughan-terrace, Penarth, Idris, beloved husband of Brenda PARRY, aged 47. Funeral 2.30 Wednesday for Penarth Cemetery; G.O. PITCHER.- June 7, at 29, Station-road, Penarth, Havelock Joserph PITCHER (House Decorator), beloved husband of Elizabeth Emily PITCHER. Funeral Thursday, 3.30; G.O. THOMAS.- On June 6th, at Cardiff Infirmary, Susannah, dearly-loved daughter of Margaret and the late Frederick THOMAS. Funeral leaving 3, Troed-y-Trwyn, at Three o'clock Thursday for St. David's Church Gyfeillon; G.O. THOMAS.- On June 6th, at 14, Tram-road North, W.A. THOMAS (late of Duffryn Machine Hill's Plymouth), the dearly-beloved father of Mrs. Charles WINTON. Funeral Thursday. Two p.m. sharp, for Cefn; G.O. ACKNOWLEDGMENTS. HARRY.- Mrs. HARRY and Son, Burdon Hill Farm, Wenvoe, tender their deepest thanks to kind friends for all messages of sympathy and floral tributes deceived. SMITH.- The Family of the late Thos. SMITH, of 34, Tymawr-road, Llandaff N., wish to thank all friends for their kindness shown them in their sad bereavement; also for floral tributes received. IN MEMORIAM. CARNEY.- In Ever-loving Memory of Hetty (nee HUGHES), beloved wife of William CARNET, late Eaglebush Hotel, Neath, who passed away June 8th, 1924./verse- Sadly missed by Sisters and Brother. HOLDEN.- In Ever-loving Memory of our darling mother, Margretta (Getta), who passed peacefully away June 7th, 1921: also our beloved ones, Irene and Nella. Sadly missed and lovingly remembered by Dad Children, and Uncle John. TAMLIN.- In Loving Memory of our dear sister Emmy, who died June 8th, 1921, at Ivy Dene, Sneyd-street, Cardiff.- Harry TAMLIN, Kitty, Herbert. John Patrick

Western Mail Tuesday June 8th 1926. FAMILY ANNOUNCEMENTS.-continued. DEATHS. FAVIES.- On June 6, at Cardiff Royal Infirmary, John DAVIES, of Heol-y-Llan, Coity. Funeral on Thursday, June 10, leaving the house at 2.30 for Coity; G.O. GAYDON.- On June 6th, at Glasfryn, Dinas Powis, , Thomas William, aged 74 years. GRIFFITHS.- On June 6th, at 56, Aldsworth road, Canton, Daniel, the beloved husband of Mary GRIFFITHS. Funeral Thursday, Three o'clock; G.O. HOPPER.- On June 4th, Mary, dearly-beloved wife of Christopher John HOPPER, 29, Hill-street, Aberaman, after a long and painful illness. Funeral Wednesday, Twelve Noon; strictly private. HUGHES.- On June 6th, at 302, Gladstone-road, Barry, Jane, beloved wife of Edward HUGHES. Funeral Wednesday, Three o'clock, Barry Cemetery; G.O.  N.F. HUMPHREYS.- June 5th, at Plymouth Royal Naval Hospital, Morgan HUMPHREYS. Funeral leaves 10, Cemetery-road, Porth, 2.3. Thursday, Llethrddu Cemetery; G. O. JAMES.- Tom JAMES, Dispenser at Dr. WATKINS, 15, Chapel-street, Tonypandy, died June 6th. Funeral Two p.m. for Trealaw; G.O. JENKINS.- On June 6th, at Rowena House, Victoria-street, Trealaw, Richard, the beloved husband of the late Catherine JENKINS, of Llanon. Public funeral Thursday, June 10th, Trealaw Cemetery. JENKINS.- On June 7, at 57, Station-street, Maesteg, accidently, John Rhys, youngest child of the late W.R. and Mrs. DAVIES, and grandson of Mr. and Mrs. DAVIES, Llwydarth Farm. Funeral Thursday at Four p.m. for Llangynwyd; G.O. JONES.- On June 6th, at 87, Bartlett-street, Caerphilly, Jane Sophia, aged 76. Funeral Thursday, Two o'clock, for St. Martin's Church. LEWIS.- On 7th June, 1926, beloved darling Mary, age six years, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. E.J. LEWIS, Foretop, Rhiwbina. LEWIS.- At Mulberry House, Little Mill, near Pontypool, Mary Florence, dearly-loved wife of Roger LEWIS. Funeral for Gellgaer Church Tuesday, June 8th (private at house 1.30). Friends kindly meet at Church Three o'clock p.m. LLEWLLYN- Suddenly, on June 6th, at 4, Mill-street, Trecynon, Aberdare, Alice, eldest daughter of the late Mr. and Mrs. Lewis LLEWELLYN. Funeral Thursday, leaving house 12.30 for Llanwonno; Private. LORD.- On June 7th, at Upper Perry Hill, Southville, Bristol, William LORD, in his nintieth year.- Fifty years with William BUTLER and Co. Ltd., Bristol. PARRY.-June 6, 2, Maughan-terrace, Penarth, Idris, beloved husband of Brenda PARRY, aged 47. Funeral 2.30 Wednesday for Penarth Cemetery; G.O. PITCHER.- June 7, at 29, Station-road, Penarth, Havelock Joserph PITCHER (House Decorator), beloved husband of Elizabeth Emily PITCHER. Funeral Thursday, 3.30; G.O. THOMAS.- On June 6th, at Cardiff Infirmary, Susannah, dearly-loved daughter of Margaret and the late Frederick THOMAS. Funeral leaving 3, Troed-y-Trwyn, at Three o'clock Thursday for St. David's Church Gyfeillon; G.O. THOMAS.- On June 6th, at 14, Tram-road North, W.A. THOMAS (late of Duffryn Machine Hill's Plymouth), the dearly-beloved father of Mrs. Charles WINTON. Funeral Thursday. Two p.m. sharp, for Cefn; G.O. ACKNOWLEDGMENTS. HARRY.- Mrs. HARRY and Son, Burdon Hill Farm, Wenvoe, tender their deepest thanks to kind friends for all messages of sympathy and floral tributes deceived. SMITH.- The Family of the late Thos. SMITH, of 34, Tymawr-road, Llandaff N., wish to thank all friends for their kindness shown them in their sad bereavement; also for floral tributes received. IN MEMORIAM. CARNEY.- In Ever-loving Memory of Hetty (nee HUGHES), beloved wife of William CARNET, late Eaglebush Hotel, Neath, who passed away June 8th, 1924./verse- Sadly missed by Sisters and Brother. HOLDEN.- In Ever-loving Memory of our darling mother, Margretta (Getta), who passed peacefully away June 7th, 1921: also our beloved ones, Irene and Nella. Sadly missed and lovingly remembered by Dad Children, and Uncle John. TAMLIN.- In Loving Memory of our dear sister Emmy, who died June 8th, 1921, at Ivy Dene, Sneyd-street, Cardiff.- Harry TAMLIN, Kitty, Herbert. John Patrick

Thanks again 'Luned in Tasmania' for rapid response. Certainly looking forward to seeing entries you mentioned. I'm in Kingston, Hobart. Kind regards, Dawn (Tasmania, Australia.)

Lyn of Brisbane - thank you so much for re-focusing my thinking. I was pursuing that line of thinking and let it go when I got lost in a strange landscape of so many unfamiliar place names. I think you are right. The quality of assistance I've been receiving from the Monmouth List is outstanding - thanks to all. Kind regards, Dawn (Tasmania, Australia.)

Dear Dawn, I'm afraid my Sarah Waters existed rather too early to be of immediate assistance. Llanover Bishops Transcripts - transcribed from LDS microfilm. 31 May 1792 Francis James married Sarah Waters by licence. 16 September 1792 Joseph James married Ann Waters by banns. Trevethin BTs Buried 21 October 1739 Thomas Water James. 20 December 1822 John James married Mary Waters. I'm sure I've come across the name Waters in the Goytre parish registers too. Happy hunting, cheers, Luned James in Tasmania

Western Mail Tuesday June 8th 1926. FAMILY ANNOUNCEMENTS. ROLL OF HONOUR. GALE.- In Proud and Loving Memory of Lieut. Henry J. GALE, M.C. M.M. R.E. (late Master Roath Park Schools), son of Mr. and Mrs. Walter J. GALE, 52, Stacey-road, Cardiff, killed in action in France 8th June, 1918. WILKINS.- In Affectionate Remembrance of our dear Ed., the dearly-loved younger son of the late Mr. and Mrs. Hy. WILKINS, Nottage, Porthcawl, who fell at Messines June 8th, 1917.- Lovingly remembered by Sisters, Brothers, Brothers-in-law, and Ena. BIRTHS. BEOR-ROBERTS.- On 4th June, at Lansdowne House, Tenby, to Dorothy, wife of H.W. BEOR-ROBERTS, a daughter. JONES.- May 29th, at Croft, Heolyderi, Rhiwbina, to Marjorie (nee HEMUS), wife of Trevor JONES, M.A., LL.B., a daughter. THORN.- On June 6th, at Brook Farm, Fairwater, to Mr. and Mrs. C. THORN (nee Doris LOVELL), a son. FORTHCOMING MARRIAGE. PHILLIPS - DAVIES- The marriage arranged between Ieuan G. PHILLIPS eldest son of Mr. Evan PHILLIPS and Mrs. PHILLIPS, of 100, Brondesbury Park, N.W.2. and Llewela (Ella), eldest dasughter of Mr. R. I. DAVIES and Mrs. DAVIES, of Sunnycroft, Radyr, will take place on July 6th at Gwaedlody-Garth, Pentyrch, at 10.45 a.m. MARRIAGES. EDWARDS - HALL.- At the Presbyterian Church, Windsor-place, Cardiff, on the 2nd inst., Arthur EDWARDS to Ethel C. HALL, both of Cardiff. HACKER - TILEY.- On June 6th , at Holy Trinity Church, Newport, by the Rev. Henry MORGAN, M.A., Rector. Walter Clifford, only child of the late Mr. W.J. and E. HACKER, 65, Commercial-road, to Mildred Gwendolin, fourth daughter of Mr. and Mrs James TILEY, 32, Church-road. JOHNSON - DIXON.- On June 6th, at Michaelstone-y-Vedw Parish Church, by the Rector, the Rev. Ashley RICHARDS, Arthur Stanley, second son of Mr. W.E. JOHNSON, butcher, Risca, to Margaret DIXON, niece of the late Mr. David JONES, Three Salmons Inn, Bassaleg, Mon. RICHARDSON - DRAPER.- On June 7th, at St. Margaret's Roath, by the Rev. H. WELLINGTON, Richard John, son of Mr. and Mrs. RICHARDSON, Llanbethian House, Cowbridge, to Alma, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. DRAPER, 7, Marlborough-road. John Patrick

Western Mail Monday June 7th 1926 Mr. T. Bevan ARTHUR offered at The Boar's Head Hotel, Carmarthen, on Saturday, the freehold property known as Myrddin Garage, John-street., Carmarthen (38ft. by 48ft. 6in.), with a concrete court 17ft. 6in. deep, and now in the occupation of the vendor, Mr. T. Parke JONES, as to the ground floor. The first floor is held as a schoolroom at a rental of £45 p.a. by the Rev. T. Glyndwr RICHARDS, B.A., B.D., to whom the property was knocked down for £1.500. Messrs. UNGOED-THOMAS and KING, Quay-street, Carmarthen, were the solicitors. The farm of Hendreganol, in the parish of Jordanston, Pem., has been sold to Mr. David JENKINS of Hendrewen Dairy Farm, for £1,700. The acreage of the farm is 102. Mr. W. Rees CARVER, Fishguard was the auctioneer. The Esplanade Hotel, Porthcawl, which was recently offered for sale by auction by Messrs.POWELL and POWELL (F.A.I.), Cardiff, in conjunction with Mr. J.E. EVANS (A.I.S.A.), Cardiff, and withdrawn has been sold privately to Messrs. R.E. JONES (Limited), the well-known caterers. The firm already own the Marine Hotel,which is also situated on the esplanade. Mr. William G. BOND, Cefn Coed, has been appointed surveyor and sanitary inspector for the Vaynor and Penderyn Rural District Council. Sarah PUGSLEY, of 23, Common-road, Llantrisant, was admitted to Cardiff Royal Infirmary with a fractured thigh, the result of falling in the backyard. Two pupils of the Nantymoel Girls' School- Margaret A. LEWIS and Constance DAVIES-have gained scholarships at the recent examinations held at Howell's School, Llandaff. Mr. F.C. ELLIOTT, chief collector of the water rates section of the city treasure's departments at Cardiff, was presented with a canteen of cutlery at the Cardiff City-hall on Saturday, on the occaision of his retirement after 48 years' service. Mr. J. E. HENNAH, the Newport artist, whose Academy picture has been purchased by Mr. G. Leighton SEAGER and presented to the town, is hoping to hold an exhibition of his paintings in Newport in the near future. This may be arranged under the auspices of the Art Gallery Committee. John Patrick.

Hi Sawn Don't forget that she may have been born in Abergavenny but baptised somewhere else - her mother's home parish for instance, especially if she is the eldest or her mother went home to have her first child with her own mother to help in Abergavenny but had the baby baptised in her new parish. Usually the former scenario. Birthplace can be different to baptism place. Lyn In Brisbane Oz -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of D & H Stanton Sent: Tuesday, 16 February 2010 12:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MON] "WATERS" & Parish Registers Thanks to Ann for Gwent FHS info; and to Michael Elliott Jones, responding to somebody else, has actually led me to a John WATERS marriage, not on IGI and the interchanging use of WALTERS/WATERS. If anybody runs across a marriage of John WATERS (or Walters) to Martha prior to 1814 and birth of daughter, SARAH about 1814/1815, could you please let me know. The only family info I have about my gggGrandmother, was provided by her husband on her Death Cert. in 1853, in Australia. He gave Abergavenny as her birthplace but that doesn't seem to be correct; I'm sure a Parish Register somewhere, holds the answer. Repeated above info, in case anybody is reading this for first time. With or without her family, SARAH was certainly in Cathedine Parish in Breconshire in 1832. Any ideas/suggestions gratefully received. Kind regards, Dawn Stanton. (Tasmania,Australia.) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Western Mail Monday June 7th 1926. PHOTOGRAPH PAGE. Three weddings. 1)-Mr. Arthur WHITTAKER leaving St. John's Church Canton, with his bride, Miss Lily JAMES. Miss JAMES is a lieutenant in the 31st Company Girl Guides, who formed an escort from the church door. 2)- The wedding took place at Moriah Baptist Church, Tonypandy, of Mr. E. JONES, Tonypandy, and Nurse ROBERTS, of Borth, near Aberystwyth. L.to.R. The Rev. J.V. PUGH, Mr. E. JONES (bridegroom), Miss ROBERTS (bride), Miss Hettie JONES (bridemaid), and Mr. Will JOHN. M.P., J.P. (best man). (photographer L. LADD.) 3)- Mr. Arthur WILLIAMS, younger son of the late Mr. Dan WILLIAMS, of Morriston, who was married on Saturday at Salem Baptist Church, Landore, to Miss Ceinwen Irene Cox, daughter of the late Mr. John COX, The Mount, Plasmarl. (photographer CHAPMAN, Swansea). Penarth Sea Scouts.- Dedication and Presentation of the Colours to the 6th Penarth Sea Scouts by the Rev. Percy C. PEGLER took place at Trinity Wesleyan Church on Sunday. Included in the group are:- Mr. C.J. REES, Assistant Scoutmaster; Mr. W.A.P. HOSKIN, Scout Commissioner for Glamorgan; Mr. R.G. SANDFORD, Scoutmaster; the Rev.Percy C. PEGLER, who dedicated the colours; and Mr. F. JENKINS, troop secretary. (photo by CROWDEN). West Mon. Summer Golf Meeting. W.E.M. PHILLIPS, winner of the Brynmawr Cup and .H.S. HUGHES (Pontypool), winner of the medal round competition. (photo by WEDGBURY). Penarth Regatta.- The ladies committee. Mrs. George WRIGHT, Mrs. Sidney J. DYER (who presented the prizes), Mrs. A.G. GRAHAM, Miss W. DYER, Mrs. E.C. EDWARDS, Mrs. E..W. JONES, and Mrs. S. KRIEGER. (photo by J.W. CROWDEN). --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- With the name "John Noel QUINLAN" written on a piece of paper attached to the clothing, the body of a man, about 28 years of age, was found hanging from a tree in the road at Llandarne early on Sunday morning. The discovery was made by Edward MILLWARD, of Mill Farm, St. Mellon's, who cut the body down, and it was eventually removed to the Whitchurch mortuary. The body was that of a man 5ft.8in. in height, with dark brown hair and brown eyes, and dressed in a navy blue suit, white soft collar, brown mixture tie and cap, and black laced-up boots. Up to a late hour on Sunday night the body had not been identified. While picking ivy leaves from a wall bordering the River Taff, on Saturday, Beryl May HUGHES 6, daughter of Mr. John HUGHES, labourer, of Castle-street, Treforest, over balanced and rolled down a 20ft. bank into the water. Police-officers were quickly on the scene, but it was not until some time later that the body was recovered. Mrs. FEAR, wife of Councillor FEAR, Blaina, who collapsed in the street on Friday, died at her home on Saturday morning. She leaves one daughter and three sons, one of whom is Mr. Arthur FEAR, of the Royal Academy of Music and a well-known Welsh Baritone. At the inquest at Swansea on Daniel Matthews 52, a collier, of Gorse-road, Cockett, the widowe told the coroner (Mr. J.C. MORRIS) that her husband had been in very bad health with chest trouble. A few days before his death there was some unpleasantness at the house, and there was some rough play. The Coroner: I don't propose to go into that, because when I hear the doctor's evidence I think it will be right to say it had nothing to do with his death. Dr. P. McKETCHIE said there were marks of violence on the temple and chest, but death was due purely to natural causes- pneumonia. A verdict was returned accordingly. Playing for the Newport Customs and Excise C.C. against St. Mary's at Caerleon, G.E.N. GRIFFITHS took all ten wickets, his analysis being:- O. 12.3.  M. 0.    R.25.    W.10. In a ten-round contest Freed GEORGE (Kenfig Hill) and Billy GREEN (Taff's Well) drew, while over six rounds Stan JEHU (Maesteg) defeated "Slogger" FAHEY (Garth) on points. John Patrick

Thanks to Ann for Gwent FHS info; and to Michael Elliott Jones, responding to somebody else, has actually led me to a John WATERS marriage, not on IGI and the interchanging use of WALTERS/WATERS. If anybody runs across a marriage of John WATERS (or Walters) to Martha prior to 1814 and birth of daughter, SARAH about 1814/1815, could you please let me know. The only family info I have about my gggGrandmother, was provided by her husband on her Death Cert. in 1853, in Australia. He gave Abergavenny as her birthplace but that doesn't seem to be correct; I'm sure a Parish Register somewhere, holds the answer. Repeated above info, in case anybody is reading this for first time. With or without her family, SARAH was certainly in Cathedine Parish in Breconshire in 1832. Any ideas/suggestions gratefully received. Kind regards, Dawn Stanton. (Tasmania,Australia.)

----- Forwarded Message ---- From: J GRIFFITHS <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 16 February, 2010 20:17:03 Subject: News Items APRIL 1st to JUNE 30th 1926. Number Two-Hundred ninetytwo Western Mail Tuesday June 8th 1926. FAMILY ANNOUNCEMENTS. ROLL OF HONOUR. GALE.- In Proud and Loving Memory of Lieut. Henry J. GALE, M.C. M.M. R.E. (late Master Roath Park Schools), son of Mr. and Mrs. Walter J. GALE, 52, Stacey-road, Cardiff, killed in action in France 8th June, 1918. WILKINS.- In Affectionate Remembrance of our dear Ed., the dearly-loved younger son of the late Mr. and Mrs. Hy. WILKINS, Nottage, Porthcawl, who fell at Messines June 8th, 1917.- Lovingly remembered by Sisters, Brothers, Brothers-in-law, and Ena. BIRTHS. BEOR-ROBERTS.- On 4th June, at Lansdowne House, Tenby, to Dorothy, wife of H.W. BEOR-ROBERTS, a daughter. JONES.- May 29th, at Croft, Heolyderi, Rhiwbina, to Marjorie (nee HEMUS), wife of Trevor JONES, M.A., LL.B., a daughter. THORN.- On June 6th, at Brook Farm, Fairwater, to Mr. and Mrs. C. THORN (nee Doris LOVELL), a son. FORTHCOMING MARRIAGE. PHILLIPS - DAVIES- The marriage arranged between Ieuan G. PHILLIPS eldest son of Mr. Evan PHILLIPS and Mrs. PHILLIPS, of 100, Brondesbury Park, N.W.2. and Llewela (Ella), eldest dasughter of Mr. R. I. DAVIES and Mrs. DAVIES, of Sunnycroft, Radyr, will take place on July 6th at Gwaedlody-Garth, Pentyrch, at 10.45 a.m. MARRIAGES. EDWARDS - HALL.- At the Presbyterian Church, Windsor-place, Cardiff, on the 2nd inst., Arthur EDWARDS to Ethel C. HALL, both of Cardiff. HACKER - TILEY.- On June 6th , at Holy Trinity Church, Newport, by the Rev. Henry MORGAN, M.A., Rector. Walter Clifford, only child of the late Mr. W.J. and E. HACKER, 65, Commercial-road, to Mildred Gwendolin, fourth daughter of Mr. and Mrs James TILEY, 32, Church-road. JOHNSON - DIXON.- On June 6th, at Michaelstone-y-Vedw Parish Church, by the Rector, the Rev. Ashley RICHARDS, Arthur Stanley, second son of Mr. W.E. JOHNSON, butcher, Risca, to Margaret DIXON, niece of the late Mr. David JONES, Three Salmons Inn, Bassaleg, Mon. RICHARDSON - DRAPER.- On June 7th, at St. Margaret's Roath, by the Rev. H. WELLINGTON, Richard John, son of Mr. and Mrs. RICHARDSON, Llanbethian House, Cowbridge, to Alma, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. DRAPER, 7, Marlborough-road. John Patrick

Glad the info was of interest even if it didn't provide a fountain - tut sorry can't help the play on water, still or sparkling. I have some entries I copied from the registers at the Gwent County Record Office, I shall find time between now and eternity to put them into an email. Otherwise Ann's idea about the GFHS is an excellent one. Oh, and I must remember to renew my membership, thanks Ann. Cheers Luned in Tasmania PS where are you in Tassie Dawn? I'm in Burnie.

Mike Nash is not a big place http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monfamilies/nash-bap-166-220.jpg part of Mike John's extensive Monmouthshire Parish Registers site, has baptism on 10th June 1770 of Arnold son of Arnold WALTER There are other children of Arnold WALTER , for example Thomas on 17 May 1767 and Edward 26 Jan 1772 where the father's surname is WALTERS. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monfamilies/marrpre1812/nashmarrG1725-1817.htm is worth searching as Arnold WATERS is witness to a number of marriages in Nash, as if he was a churchwarden or parish overseer in the 1780s/1790s. Parish officers might often witness marriages if they could read and write, including those of people unrelated to them. An Arnold WATERS was buried in Nash age 93 on 24 May 1813 It may well be worth looking at other parishes nearby along the Gwent levels, low-lying land along the coast of the Bristol Channel. There are WATERS entries in Goldcliff, for example. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MON/Nash/index.html has a 'nearby places' section which may help if you are unfamiliar with the local geography. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Elliot-Jones" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [MON] "WATERS" & Parish Registers >I cannot trace this thread to its origin. Directions, please. > > I have two Arnold WATERS, one b. ca. 1770, I think in Nash, MON. I do > not have his wife or marr. > The second is his son, Arnold, chr. 11 Jun 1811, Nash MON. I do not > have marr. for this one either. > Also a sister, Jane, b. 18 Apr 1813, Sevenage, Herts; marr. Wm. Chas. > HIGGS, 4 Jun 1838, Nash MON; d. Oct. Qtr., 1898, London, my ggGM. > > Mike EJ in Calif. >

Western Mail Monday June 7th 1926. Bertram WESTON 3, son of Harry WESTON, a railwayman, living at Mardy-terrace, Merthyr, was saved from being run over by a passing motor-car on Saturday through the plucky act on the part of a miner named Howell TREHARNE. The little boy had rushed out of the house in pursuit of a ball and having recovered it on the other side of the street, was re-crossing the road when the motor-van drove up. TREHARNE, who resides at Gladstone-terrace, happened to be talking to a friend near by, when he saw the danger threatening the youngster, and he promptly rushed in front of the approaching car and pushed the child on to the pavement out of harm's way. TREHARNE, however, was unable to save himself, the van being upon him almost as he rescued the child practically from beneath the wheels. He was knocked down, but escaped without any bones being broken, though he suffered severe and extensive bruises. The child is none the worse for his experience. Mr. John THOMAS, Eos Brycheniog, and Mrs. THOMAS, Upland Cottage, Blaenavon, celebrated their golden wedding on Sunday. They were married at Govilon Church. Mr. THOMAS, who is still hale and hearty, is the son of the late Mr. and Mrs. Henry THOMAS, for many years of the Rock and Castle Hotel, Sennybridge, Breconshire-his father being for many years the Royal Mail coachman. Mrs. THOMAS is a daughter of the late Mr. and Mrs. EDWARDS, of Quick-buildings, Blaenavon. In his younger days Mr. THOMAS won prizes as a tenor vocalist on all the principal eisteddfodau in the Principality. Mr. THOMAS has been a reader of the Western Mail for 40 years. Nellie MALONEY, the Irish "mystery girl," who has been under treatment at the Merthyr Workhouse Infirmary for a week for loss of memory, was handed on Saturday by the master of that institution (Mr. D.J. WILLIAMS) into the care of a cousin of hers, Mr. Thomas MALONEY, and was taken by him to his home at Elm-street, Aberbargoed. The girl a native of Abbey Mahon, Timoleague, Co. Cork, and she came to Wales intending to stay with Mr. Thomas MALONEY and his family until she could find a situation in domestic service. Arrived at Bargoed she seems to have become confused about her cousin's address, and, failing to trace him, she appears to have suffered a shock which affected her memory. Mr. MALONEY was unaware of the girl's presence in Wales until he was told of her plight by Western Mail investigators, and he expresses grateful appreciation on behalf of Miss MALONEY'S relatives of the practical interest taken in this case by that newspaper. It is also interesting to note that as a result of the publicity given by the Western Mail to Miss MALONEY'S predicament a former acquaintance of her parents in Ireland, Mr. Timothy MURPHY, who now lives at Pontlottyn, arrived at the Merthyr Workhouse Infirmary on Saturday. Mr. MURPHY explained to our Merthyr representative that on reading the Western Mail about Miss MALONEY and her adventures it occurred to him that possibly she was a daughter of his old friends and he deemed it his duty to the people he once knew to put such a possibility to an immediate test. Meanwhile the girl's family in Co. Cork have been commuicated with. Miss MALONEY is profuse in her thanks for kindnesses shown her by the infirmary authorities. Everything (she says) was done to make her happy. Mr. Percie Overton WARD, of Llwyncelyn House, Porth, formerly of Glasdir, Merthyr, general manager of the Lewis-Merthyr Consolidated Collieries (Limited), who died on November 22, aged 48 years, son of Dr. J. L.W. WARD, J.P., left estate of the gross value of £25,185, with net personalty £22,282. Probate of the will, dated February 11, 1907, has now been granted to Mr. James Tresher HARROP, of Gwaunfawren, Merthyr, and Mr. William Knight SMYTH, of 9, Clifton-crescent, Folkestone, solicitor, the Right Hon. Lord MERRIVALE in an action in the High Court having pronounced for the force and validity thereof. Testator left specific bequests to various relatives and friends, and the residue of the property to his father for life, and then for his brothers Edward and Ernest and his sisters Ada Elizabeth and Nora Ethel. John Patrick

Western Mail Monday June 7th 1926. FAMILY ANNOUNCEMENTS-continued. DEATHS. BRAY.- On June 6th, at Strathdearn, Dinas Powis, Jeanne McBean, aged 66, widow of the late Dr. Northey BRAY, Barry. Funeral Wednesday; private. BREWER.- On June 6th, Amy Serena, wife of the late Dr. Reginald BREWER, 7, Victoria-place, Newport (Mon), after a short illness. Funeral at Newport Cemetery Twelve Noon, June 9th. DAVIS.- On June 4, at 9, Michaelstone-terrace, Cwmavon, Mary, relict of Thomas DAVIS, aged 82. Public funeral Tuesday, 4.30 p.m., Old Churchyard. HALL.- On the 6th inst., at her residence, 17, Richmond-road, Cardiff, Mrs Anna HALL, widow of the late Captain Edward HALL. Funeral Wednesday, One p.m. HOLLIDAY.- On June 5th, at White Lodge, Whitchurch, Glam., Harry, much loved husband of Gladys Hamilton HOLLIDAY, age 39. Funeral Tuesday, June 8th; Service Two p.m. St. Mary's, Whitchurch, and afterwards at Glyntaff Cemetery, Pontypridd. JONES.- On June 5th, Ellen, dearly-beloved widow of the late John JONES, Butter Merchant, Dolcoed, Newcastle Emlyn. Funeral Wednesday, 9th, at Two p.m. MATTHEWS.- On the 5th inst., at 22, Clare-street, Cardiff, Agnes, second daughter of the late Charles and Hannah MATTHEWS, of Cardiff. O'LEARY.- June 4th, at 34, Cardiff-road, Mountain Ash, Catherine, beloved wife of Daniel O'LEARY. Funeral Tuesday, Four p.m., from R.C. Church. R.I.P.  (N.F.) THOMAS.- Evan THOMAS, died at 27, Llewellyn-street, Aberdare, on June 6th. Public funeral on June 10th at Four p.m. WINDER.- On June 4th, at 167, Stanwell-road, Penarth, Sarah Ann, beloved widow of the late Timothy Edward WINDER. Funeral Tuesday, Twelve Noon; G.O. ACKNOWLEDGMENTS. HORNE- Mrs. W. HORNE and Family desire to express their sincere thanks and gratitude to all friends for their kind letters of sympathy, and also for the kind personal acts of help. JOHN.- W.H. JOHN and Family, of Pen-y-Parc, Lower Machen, desire to return their sincere thanks to all kind expressions of sympathy, also letters received. IN MEMORIAM. ADAMS- In Loving Memory of my dear husband, James, who passed away June 7, 1924. Ever remembered by Wife and Gladys. DAVIES.- In Affectionate Remembrance of Mary Beddoe, the beloved wife of Richard E. DAVIES, Danyronen, Heolgerrig, who passed away June 6th, 1919/verse.-Sadly missed by Husband, Son, and daughters. Three for the same. EVANS- In Loving Memory of Reggie, dearly-loved and only child of Rees and Maggie, Llynypia, who passed away June 7th, 1919.- Sadly missed and lovingly remembered by Dad and Mamma. (also from Grandma and Roy), - (Uncle Alf and Auntie). GEORGE.- In Fondest Memory of Lettice GEORGE, Brynhir, Pembrey, died June 7th, 1922. Sadly missed by Husband and Children. MORGAN.- In Loving Memory of our dear Mother, passed away June 7th, 1925, at 8, Pwllygwlaw, Cwmavon./verse.- Sadly missed and fondly remembered by her loving Daughters, Sons, and Grandchildren. PUGH.- In Loving Memory of our dear Trevor, who died June 7th, 1924./verse.- Dad, Mam, and Polly. PUGH.- In Loving Memory of our dear brother Trevor, who passed away June 7th, 1924.- From Charlie, Seth, and Dai. THOMAS.- In Ever-loving Memory of my dear wife, Florence May, who died 7th June, 1924, at 9, Grandison-street, Briton Ferry. Sadly missed, but fondly remembered by her devoted husband. WEBB.- In Affectionate Remembrance of Elizabeth Ellen, the beloved wife of Edwin Alfred WEBB, 7, Brynavon-terrace, Hengoed, who passed away June 7th, 1924. Sadly missed by her Husband and Daughter. John Patrick

I cannot trace this thread to its origin. Directions, please. I have two Arnold WATERS, one b. ca. 1770, I think in Nash, MON. I do not have his wife or marr. The second is his son, Arnold, chr. 11 Jun 1811, Nash MON. I do not have marr. for this one either. Also a sister, Jane, b. 18 Apr 1813, Sevenage, Herts; marr. Wm. Chas. HIGGS, 4 Jun 1838, Nash MON; d. Oct. Qtr., 1898, London, my ggGM. Mike EJ in Calif.

Thanks to 'Luned in Tasmania' - just returned from holiday and saw your very helpful advice. Question now is - how do I check the Goytre and Llanover Registers? I think what my question really needs to be now, is .... How can I check ALL Parish Registers for areas surrounding Abergavenny? Sarah WATERS is certainly not on Mike Johns Transcripts for Abergavenny at all; there is no matching Sarah WATERS on IGI; Parish Registers are the most reliable source, so is there anything for sale , re Monmouthshire, that I should consider? Perhaps a local Genealogy or Family History Society has that type of material for sale? Any information or suggestions appreciated. Kind regards, Dawn (Tasmania, Australia.)

Western Mail Monday June 7th 1926. FAMILY ANNOUNCEMENTS. IN MEMORIAM-Roll of Honour. HERAPATH- In Loving Memory of Rifleman A.E. HERAPATH, second son of the late Mr. HERAPATH, Abergwynfi, and Mrs. HERAPATH, Nag's Head, Landore, killed in action June 7th, 1917.- Ever remembered by his loving Mother, Sisters, and Brothers./verse. BIRTHS. GREEN.- On May 29th, at 54, Cardiff-road, Taff's Well, to Mr. and Mrs. Harold F. GREEN (nee May JACKA), a son. GRIFFITHS.- June 6th, at 94, Canada-road, to Mr. and Mrs. P.H. GRIFFITHS (nee Daisy TOWNSEND-GREEN) a son. THOMAS.- 4th June, at The Causeway, Steventon, Berks, to Mary, wife of I, Glyn THOMAS, Jokers, Llanishen, a daughter. MARRIAGES. BROWNING-TOD.- On the 5th June, at St. Mary's Church, Whitchurch, by the Rev. F.W. REES, of St. Catherine's, Wm. J. BROWNING, son of F.W. BROWNING, Plasturton-avenue, to Agnes, youngest daughter of John TOD, Cae Gwyn-road, Whitchurch. BURGESS - PADFIELD.- On Saturday, June 5th, at St. Luke's Church, Victoria Park, by the Rev. T.J. RICHARDS, Arthur, son of Mr. Frederick BURGESS and the late Mrs. BURGESS, to Ida Evelyn, only daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Leonard A. PADFIELD (both of Cardiff). CLEMENTS - JONES.- On Wednesday, June 2nd, at St. Thomas a Becket, Shirenewton, by the Rev. T. JONES (uncle of bridegroom), assisted by the Rev. F.E. WALTERS (Rector), Cyril, elder son of Mrs. CLEMENTS, and the late Mr. CLEMENTS, of Oaklands, Blackwell, to Lillie May, younger daughter of Mr. and Mrs. JONES, Gondra Farm, Shirenewton. FORSTER - HUMPHRIES.- June 5th, by the Rev. F. Colwyn VALE, at Victoria Park Wesleyan. William Alexander to Doris Hannah (both of Cardiff). JONES - DUDLEY- June 5th, at Albany-road Baptist Church, by the Rev. J. Sansom ILES, E. Arthur, eldest son of Mrs. and the late Mr. E.A. JONES, of 15, Montgomery-street, Cardiff, to Dorothy Mary, elder daughter of Mrs. and the late Mr. E. DUDLEY, of 100, Connaught-road, Cardiff (late of London). MILES - REES.- On June 5, at St. George's Church, Cwmpark, by the Vicar Sheldon EVANS, John Stanley, son of Mr. and Mrs. John MILES, Cwmpark, to Ethel, youngest daughter of Mr. and Mrs. John REES, Park and Dare, Treorchy. RICHARDS - JONES.- On June 5th, at Gabalfa Church, Cardiff, Frederick John, second son of Mr. and Mrs. P. RICHARDS, of Laytonia-avenue, Cardiff, to Eleanor Myfanwy, younger daughter of late Mr. W. JONES and Mrs. JONES, formerly of Ebbw Vale. GOLDEN WEDDING. DAVIES - MORRIS.- June 7th, 1876, at Siloa Chapel, Aberdare, by the late Rev. D. PRICE, David DAVIES to M.A. MORRIS. Present address; 1 and 2, Strand, Ferndale. John Patrick