RootsWeb.com Mailing Lists
Total: 2/2
    1. [MONEWTON] Ann Carroll
    2. duane mills
    3. I would like to thank those nice members who responded to my request for info on the IOOF cemetary and the burial of a certain Ann Carroll. Perhaps an explanation should have proceeded my request. I am descended from a certain Ralph Shelton of Claiborne Co. TN. He is a mysterious man in that he seems to have no parents that can be documented. His daughter Penelope(my gggmother) declared in court papers dating from 1894 to about 1908 that her father, Ralph was 1/2 Cherokee. There are many web sites claiming this mysterious Ralph Shelton, but no one has the slightest proof as to where he came from. These same sites claim that Ralph had a first wife named Ann Bunch and that they had 4 daughters, one of which was named Anne, who married a Hugh Carroll and moved to Indian Territory, later settling in MO: Strangely enough, Ralphs daughter Penelope Shelton married a Robert Beeler and they moved to Newton Co. MO abt. 1885. Penelope never mentions any relatives, and Ann Carroll, (possibly nee Shelton?) would have been her 1/2 sister if my Ralph Shelton is really her father. I am pasting in an excerpt from a book about the Carroll´s. I have no idea if the Benton Co. mentioned is in AR, MO, or TN. I myself have not seen the book, and this excerpt was sent to me by e-mail, unsolicited. It seems clear by the text, that the book was written before 1900, but this is only a supposition on my part. What I need to rule in or out is if this Anne who was buried in 1895 in the IOOF cemetary is really a Shelton, and further, who her parents or any other relatives might have been. Duane Mills Stavanger, Norway ********************** History of Benton County CARROLL COUNTY. page 1050 Hugh Carroll was born near Martinsburgh, Va. In Tennessee he engaged in farming and dealt extensively in horses. In 1836 he came West with the Cherokee Indians, and located first at Fort Gibson, I. T., but later settled in Neosho, Mo. In removing the Cherokees he was wagon master of a detachment of Indians. Upon settling at Neosho he engaged in farming, which he very successfully continued until the outbreak of the Civil War, when he joined the Confederate service, and was killed in Newton County, Mo., in 1862. His wife was also born in Claiborne County, Tenn., and is now living about nine miles from Neosho, Mo. (his wife, as you will see from the continued text below, was named Anna Shelton.) ***************** I have the following census info, although I do not remember who kindly did the lookup? 1850: Hugh Carroll McDonald Co., Missouri, District #53, hh#108 Carroll, Hugh 46 Fanner b NC Ann 40 b Tenn (nee Shelton) Henry 18 Tenn James 16 Tenn Samuel 14 Tenn Christopher C. 12 Mo. Sarah A. 8 Mo Mary 4 Mo Martha A. 1860: Hugh Carroll, McDonald Co., Mo., hh#459 Carroll, Hugh 56 Farmer Tenn Anne 50 Tenn Sarah A. 17 Mo Mary L. 14 M Martha 11 Mo ***************** I have tried to order the CW file but have never had a response after the following from a really nice archivest: There were apparently 4 Hugh Carrolls in Confederate service in Missouri: 1) 3rd Lieutenant Hugh Carroll Company F 11th Regiment Cavalry 8th Division Missouri State Guards Born: Indiana Joined service: September 3, 1861 Age: 22 Home: Meadom, Missouri 2) 3rd Lieutenant Hugh Carroll Company E 11 Regiment Cavalry 8th Division Missouri State Guards Born: North Carolina Joined: September 21, 1861 Age: 56 Home: Pineville, Missouri 3) Private Hugh Carroll Captain Lowe's Company Missouri Artillery CSA 4) Private Hugh Carroll Company H 8th Missouri Infantry CSA Enlisted in Arkansas Absent Without Leave since January 6, 1864 Based the information you gave me, I would guess that Hugh Carroll number two is your man. There are a couple of interesting things here: One, of course, is the other "Hugh Carroll," who is young enough to be his son. Two, the rank of Third Lieutenant. I checked this out with our Civil War experts in Washington and they said that while it is rare, it was common in the Missouri State Guards. This information appeared on microfilmed index cards compiled by the War Department in the 1890s and sent to the Missouri State Archives in the 1920s. Since Carroll was in the State Guard, his enlistment papers are probably in the Missouri State Archives. They should have the records that will make a photocopy worth having. I can, however, photocopy the indices I consulted if you wish. Please write the state archives at: State Information Center, P.O. Box 1747, Jefferson City, Missouri 65102 Telephone: (573) 751-3280 Fax: (573) 526-7333 Email: archref@sosmail.state.mo.us Sincerely, Tim Rives (Note: My requests were answered that no file could be found--Duane Mills) ********************* (To complete the family info linking Anna to the Shelton surnaem: Duane Mills) Hugh and Ann Carroll´s son, or one of their children at least: Hon. John Carroll was born on August 30, 1828, in what is now Claiborne County, Tenn. He is the second in a family of ten children of Hugh and Anna (Shelton) Carroll. The family is of purely Celtic origin. Hon. John Carroll was reared on the frontier, and received his education by his own personal efforts, mostly among the Cherokee Indians. When his father removed to Missouri he (John) remained in the Indian Territory, and was married in the Cherokee Nation to Susan Ward, a quadroon. She died in 1856, leaving two children; Hugh, who was accidentally killed in 1885, at Vinita, where he resided, and Fincher, who now resides at Huntsville, Ark. While a resident of the Indian Nation Mr. Carroll (John) dealt very extensively and successfully in all kinds of Indian supplies. From there he removed to McDonald County, Mo., and in 1857 was united in marriage with Huldah Holcomb, who was born of French parentage in Newton County, Mo. Seven children have been born to this union; Mary, now the wife of John Cecil, of Chico, Tex.; Dick, deceased; Jeff. D., deceased; Frank, a clerk in the post-office at Eureka Springs, Ark.; Nora, Albert S. J. and Nellie. Upon his removal to McDonald County, Mr. Carroll settled on a large farm, which he cultivated in connection with stockraising until the Civil War broke out. He (John) raised three companies for the Confederate service, and was made captain of a company in the State service under Price. On reorganization he still commanded a company until 1863, when he received a colonel's commission, which he retained until the war ended. He passed through the service with many narrow escapes, but without injury. Returning home he settled at Huntsville, Ark., and engaged in general agricultural business and land dealing. He (John) was a member of the first Legislature that convened after the war, and in 1874 was a delegate to the Constitutional Convention. As early as 1857 Mr. Carroll's ability to manage public affairs was recognized. In that year he was appointed sheriff of McDonald County, Mo., and United States Deputy Marshal for the Western District of Arkansas. He continued in business at Huntsville, Ark., until the opening of [p.1050] Eureka Springs in 1879, when he came thither and engaged in the improving and general merchandise business. He was chosen first mayor of the city (Eureka Springs) , and was also chosen by the citizens to represent them in adjusting the land suit between the town site claimants and the agricultural claimants. In 1884 he was admitted to the bar, and practiced law as a member of the firm of Carroll, Glitsch & Vandeventer until he was appointed United States Marshal of the Western District of Arkansas, in October, 1885. He still holds this position, and is widely and favorably known in the Southwest. The Western District of Arkansas includes eighteen counties of Arkansas, besides the five civilized tribes of the Indian Territory, the Chickasaws, Choctaws, Creeks, Cherokees and Seminoles, and does the largest legal business of any district of the United States. During Mr. Carroll's service as marshal, seventeen deputy marshals have been killed. Politically our subject is a stanch Democrat, as was also his ancestry. He is a Royal Arch Mason.

    02/07/2001 04:44:12
    1. Re: [MONEWTON] Ann Carroll
    2. Joy Hobbs
    3. Duane, This sounds like a GOODSPEED's excerpt, both Benton & Carroll counties are in Ark, just across the state line from MO. Also, the IOOF cemetery is quite large, good records, but possible that what Dee placed on line is all there was. You might check with her for additional information, if any. Good luck! ----- Original Message ----- From: duane mills <duane@online.no> To: <MONEWTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 4:44 AM Subject: [MONEWTON] Ann Carroll > I would like to thank those nice members who responded to my request > for info on the IOOF cemetary and the burial of a certain Ann Carroll. > > Perhaps an explanation should have proceeded my request. > > I am descended from a certain Ralph Shelton of Claiborne Co. TN. He > is a mysterious man in that he seems to have no parents that can be > documented. His daughter Penelope(my gggmother) declared in court > papers dating from 1894 to about 1908 that her father, Ralph was 1/2 > Cherokee. > > There are many web sites claiming this mysterious Ralph Shelton, but > no one has the slightest proof as to where he came from. These same > sites claim that Ralph had a first wife named Ann Bunch and that they > had 4 daughters, one of which was named Anne, who married a Hugh > Carroll and moved to Indian Territory, later settling in MO: > > Strangely enough, Ralphs daughter Penelope Shelton married a Robert > Beeler and they moved to Newton Co. MO abt. 1885. > Penelope never mentions any relatives, and Ann Carroll, (possibly nee > Shelton?) would have been her 1/2 sister if my Ralph Shelton is > really her father. > > I am pasting in an excerpt from a book about the Carroll´s. I have no > idea if the Benton Co. mentioned is in AR, MO, or TN. I myself have > not seen the book, and this excerpt was sent to me by e-mail, > unsolicited. It seems clear by the text, that the book was written > before 1900, but this is only a supposition on my part. > > What I need to rule in or out is if this Anne who was buried in 1895 > in the IOOF cemetary is really a Shelton, and further, who her > parents or any other relatives might have been. > > Duane Mills > Stavanger, Norway > > ********************** > > History of Benton County > CARROLL COUNTY. page 1050 > > Hugh Carroll was born near Martinsburgh, Va. In Tennessee he engaged > in farming and dealt extensively in horses. In 1836 he came West with > the Cherokee Indians, and located first at Fort Gibson, I. T., but > later settled in Neosho, Mo. In removing the Cherokees he was wagon > master of a detachment of Indians. Upon settling at Neosho he > engaged in farming, which he very successfully continued until the > outbreak of the Civil War, when he joined the Confederate service, > and was killed in Newton County, Mo., in 1862. > > His wife was also born in Claiborne County, Tenn., and is now living > about nine miles from Neosho, Mo. (his wife, as you will see from > the continued text below, was named Anna Shelton.) > > ***************** > > I have the following census info, although I do not remember who > kindly did the lookup? > > 1850: Hugh Carroll McDonald Co., Missouri, > District #53, hh#108 > Carroll, Hugh 46 Fanner b NC > Ann 40 b Tenn (nee Shelton) > Henry 18 Tenn > James 16 Tenn > Samuel 14 Tenn > Christopher C. 12 Mo. > Sarah A. 8 Mo > Mary 4 Mo > Martha A. > > 1860: Hugh Carroll, McDonald Co., Mo., > hh#459 > Carroll, Hugh 56 Farmer Tenn > Anne 50 Tenn > Sarah A. 17 Mo > Mary L. 14 M > Martha 11 Mo > > ***************** > > I have tried to order the CW file but have never had a response after > the following from a really nice archivest: > > There were apparently 4 Hugh Carrolls in Confederate service in Missouri: > > 1) 3rd Lieutenant Hugh Carroll > Company F > 11th Regiment > Cavalry > 8th Division > Missouri State Guards > Born: Indiana > Joined service: September 3, 1861 > Age: 22 > Home: Meadom, Missouri > > 2) 3rd Lieutenant Hugh Carroll > Company E > 11 Regiment > Cavalry > 8th Division > Missouri State Guards > Born: North Carolina > Joined: September 21, 1861 > Age: 56 > Home: Pineville, Missouri > > 3) Private Hugh Carroll > Captain Lowe's Company > Missouri Artillery > CSA > > 4) Private Hugh Carroll > Company H > 8th Missouri Infantry > CSA > Enlisted in Arkansas > Absent Without Leave since January 6, 1864 > > Based the information you gave me, I would guess that Hugh Carroll > number two is your man. > > There are a couple of interesting things here: One, of course, is the > other "Hugh Carroll," who is young enough to be his son. Two, the > rank of Third Lieutenant. I checked this out with our Civil War > experts in Washington and they said that while it is rare, it was > common in the Missouri State Guards. > > This information appeared on microfilmed index cards compiled by the > War Department in the 1890s and sent to the Missouri State Archives > in the 1920s. Since Carroll was in the State Guard, his enlistment > papers are probably in the Missouri State Archives. They should have > the records that will make a photocopy worth having. I can, however, > photocopy the indices I consulted if you wish. Please write the state > archives at: > > State Information Center, P.O. Box 1747, Jefferson City, Missouri 65102 > Telephone: (573) 751-3280 > Fax: (573) 526-7333 > Email: archref@sosmail.state.mo.us > Sincerely, > > Tim Rives > > (Note: My requests were answered that no file could be found--Duane Mills) > > ********************* > > (To complete the family info linking Anna to the Shelton surnaem: Duane Mills) > > Hugh and Ann Carroll´s son, or one of their children at least: > > Hon. John Carroll was born on August 30, 1828, in what is now > Claiborne County, Tenn. He is the second in a family of ten children > of Hugh and Anna (Shelton) Carroll. The family is of purely Celtic > origin. > > Hon. John Carroll was reared on the frontier, and received his > education by his own personal efforts, mostly among the Cherokee > Indians. When his father removed to Missouri he (John) remained in > the Indian Territory, and was married in the Cherokee Nation to > Susan Ward, a quadroon. She died in 1856, leaving two children; Hugh, > who was accidentally killed in 1885, at Vinita, where he resided, > and Fincher, who now resides at Huntsville, Ark. > > While a resident of the Indian Nation Mr. Carroll (John) dealt very > extensively and successfully in all kinds of Indian supplies. From > there he removed to McDonald County, Mo., and in 1857 was united in > marriage with Huldah Holcomb, who was born of French parentage in > Newton County, Mo. Seven children have been born to this union; > Mary, now the wife of John Cecil, of Chico, Tex.; Dick, deceased; > Jeff. D., deceased; Frank, a clerk in the post-office at Eureka > Springs, Ark.; Nora, Albert S. J. and Nellie. Upon his removal to > McDonald County, Mr. Carroll settled on a large farm, which he > cultivated in connection with stockraising until the Civil War broke > out. He (John) raised three companies for the Confederate service, > and was made captain of a company in the State service under Price. > On reorganization he still commanded a company until 1863, when he > received a colonel's commission, which he retained until the war > ended. He passed through the service with many narrow escapes, but > without injury. > > Returning home he settled at Huntsville, Ark., and engaged in > general agricultural business and land dealing. He (John) was a > member of the first Legislature that convened after the war, and in > 1874 was a delegate to the Constitutional Convention. As early as > 1857 Mr. Carroll's ability to manage public affairs was recognized. > In that year he was appointed sheriff of McDonald County, Mo., and > United States Deputy Marshal for the Western District of Arkansas. He > continued in business at Huntsville, Ark., until the opening of > [p.1050] Eureka Springs in 1879, when he came thither and engaged in > the improving and general merchandise business. He was chosen first > mayor of the city (Eureka Springs) , and was also chosen by the > citizens to represent them in adjusting the land suit between the > town site claimants and the agricultural claimants. > > In 1884 he was admitted to the bar, and practiced law as a member of > the firm of Carroll, Glitsch & Vandeventer until he was appointed > United States Marshal of the Western District of Arkansas, in > October, 1885. He still holds this position, and is widely and > favorably known in the Southwest. > > The Western District of Arkansas includes eighteen counties of > Arkansas, besides the five civilized tribes of the Indian Territory, > the Chickasaws, Choctaws, Creeks, Cherokees and Seminoles, and does > the largest legal business of any district of the United States. > During Mr. Carroll's service as marshal, seventeen deputy marshals > have been killed. Politically our subject is a stanch Democrat, as > was also his ancestry. He is a Royal Arch Mason. > > > > ==== MONEWTON Mailing List ==== > Newton County, Missouri MOGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~monewton/newton.html > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2

    02/06/2001 10:40:54