Does anyone know if the 2 Harry Carms below are the same person?? Jim S _____________________ Descendants of Robert Benjamin Haney 1 Robert Benjamin Haney b: 18 Oct 1868 d: 24 Jul 1953 .. +Mary Malinda Bryant . 2 Pearl Jane Haney b: 17 Oct 1893 d: 29 Aug 1956 *********************** ..... +Harry Edgar Cram **************************** . 2 Benjamin Haney b: 29 Jun 1895 d: 27 Feb 1978 ..... +Mary Anna Goldsmith b: 09 Aug 1889 d: 03 Aug 1952 . 2 Clifford Haney b: Jan 1897 d: Dec 1897 . 2 Fred Haney b: 16 Mar 1898 d: 24 Jul 1963 ..... +Louise Day . 2 Olive Catherine Haney b: 15 Jan 1900 d: 08 Mar 1973 ..... +Clyde Bussell . 2 Dora Hylton Haney b: 05 Oct 1903 d: 26 Jul 1989 ************************* ..... +William J. Hylton . *2nd Husband of Dora Hylton Haney: ..... +Harry Edger Cram ********************************* . 2 Frank Haney b: 10 Feb 1906 d: 20 Sep 1993 ..... +Pearl Elizabeth Cunningham ------------------------

Descendants of Horace Cram Generation No. 1 1. HORACE1 CRAM He married MARY MCDANIEL. Child of HORACE CRAM and MARY MCDANIEL is: 2. i. HARRY EDGAR2 CRAM, b. 30 Jun 1892, Drexel, Missouri; d. 01 Sep 1976, Mesa, Arisona. Generation No. 2 2. HARRY EDGAR2 CRAM (HORACE1) was born 30 Jun 1892 in Drexel, Missouri, and died 01 Sep 1976 in Mesa, Arisona. He married (1) PEARLE JANE HANEY 27 Oct 1915 in Paola, Kansas, daughter of ROBERT HANEY and MARY BRYANT. She was born 17 Dec 1893 in Hawkeye, Pulaski Co., Mossouri, and died 29 Aug 1956 in Ottawa, Kansas. He married (2) DORA HANEY 1960 in Kansas, daughter of ROBERT HANEY and MARY BRYANT. She was born 05 Oct 1903 in Osawatomie, Kansas, and died 26 Jul 1989 in Las Vegas, Nevada. More About HARRY EDGAR CRAM: Burial: 1976, Ottawa, Kansas More About PEARLE JANE HANEY: Burial: 1956, Ottawa, Kansas More About HARRY CRAM and PEARLE HANEY: Marriage: 27 Oct 1915, Paola, Kansas More About DORA HANEY: Burial: 1989, Osawatomie Cemetery, Kansas More About HARRY CRAM and DORA HANEY: Marriage: 1960, Kansas Children of HARRY CRAM and PEARLE HANEY are: i. BABY3 CRAM, b. 09 Apr 1918, Princeton, Franklin Co., Kansas; d. Died at birth. 3. ii. WANDA MAE CRAM, b. 09 Apr 1918, Princeton, Franklin Co., Kansas; d. 14 Dec 1991, Riverside, CA.. 4. iii. WINONA MARY CRAM, b. 26 Nov 1928, Princeton, Kansas. Generation No. 3 3. WANDA MAE3 CRAM (HARRY EDGAR2, HORACE1) was born 09 Apr 1918 in Princeton, Franklin Co., Kansas, and died 14 Dec 1991 in Riverside, CA.. She married BERT E. NEWLAND 05 Apr 1947 in New Mexico. He was born 20 Jul 1904. More About BERT NEWLAND and WANDA CRAM: Marriage: 05 Apr 1947, New Mexico Children of WANDA CRAM and BERT NEWLAND are: 5. i. KATHLEEN4 NEWLAND, b. 25 Aug 1948, Deming, New Mexico. 6. ii. KENT NEWLAND, b. 17 Apr 1950, Deming, New Mexico. 4. WINONA MARY3 CRAM (HARRY EDGAR2, HORACE1) was born 26 Nov 1928 in Princeton, Kansas. She married BRUCE FRANKLIN CARR 17 May 1945 in Tonganoxie, Kansas, son of LLOYD CARR and MARY PEARSON. He was born 04 Sep 1925. More About BRUCE CARR and WINONA CRAM: Marriage: 17 May 1945, Tonganoxie, Kansas Children of WINONA CRAM and BRUCE CARR are: 7. i. MARY JANE4 CARR, b. 20 Mar 1946, Ottawa, Kansas. 8. ii. LLOYD CRAM CARR, b. 08 Jul 1947, Ottawa, Kansas. 9. iii. LEAH KAY CARR, b. 15 Aug 1948, Ottawa, Kansas. Generation No. 4 5. KATHLEEN4 NEWLAND (WANDA MAE3 CRAM, HARRY EDGAR2, HORACE1) was born 25 Aug 1948 in Deming, New Mexico. She married (1) DONALD FISHER. She married (2) WILLIAM MATTERN 23 Jan 1971 in Ontario, Calif. More About WILLIAM MATTERN and KATHLEEN NEWLAND: Marriage: 23 Jan 1971, Ontario, Calif Child of KATHLEEN NEWLAND and WILLIAM MATTERN is: 10. i. PETER FISHER5 MATTERN, b. 17 Apr 1967, San Bernardino, CA.. 6. KENT4 NEWLAND (WANDA MAE3 CRAM, HARRY EDGAR2, HORACE1) was born 17 Apr 1950 in Deming, New Mexico. He married CAROL MAY SHULER May 1986 in Grand Canyon, Arizona. More About KENT NEWLAND and CAROL SHULER: Marriage: May 1986, Grand Canyon, Arizona Child of KENT NEWLAND and CAROL SHULER is: i. ARIEL MAI5 NEWLAND, b. 17 Oct 1986, Phoenix, Arizona. 7. MARY JANE4 CARR (WINONA MARY3 CRAM, HARRY EDGAR2, HORACE1) was born 20 Mar 1946 in Ottawa, Kansas. She married JAMES ROGER HAMLIN 09 Jul 1967 in Congregational Church, Corvallis, Oregon, son of WILLARD HAMLIN and ALVENA CUSHMAN. He was born 23 Jun 1946. More About JAMES HAMLIN and MARY CARR: Marriage: 09 Jul 1967, Congregational Church, Corvallis, Oregon Children of MARY CARR and JAMES HAMLIN are: i. DAVID ANDREW5 HAMLIN, b. 24 Jul 1969, Corvalls, Oregon. ii. BRUCE MICHAEL HAMLIN, b. 24 Dec 1971, Corvalis, Oregon; m. PAMELA FULLER, 18 Jun 1991, Presbyterian Church, Corvallis, Oregon. More About BRUCE HAMLIN and PAMELA FULLER: Marriage: 18 Jun 1991, Presbyterian Church, Corvallis, Oregon 8. LLOYD CRAM4 CARR (WINONA MARY3 CRAM, HARRY EDGAR2, HORACE1) was born 08 Jul 1947 in Ottawa, Kansas. He married DARLENE AMMON KIMSEY 05 Jun 1971 in Cathlolic Church, Albany, Oregon. She was born 14 Aug 1948. More About LLOYD CARR and DARLENE KIMSEY: Marriage: 05 Jun 1971, Cathlolic Church, Albany, Oregon Children of LLOYD CARR and DARLENE KIMSEY are: i. CARISSA CARRIE5 CARR, b. 30 Jun 1976. ii. VINSON GARRISON CARR, b. 02 Dec 1982. 9. LEAH KAY4 CARR (WINONA MARY3 CRAM, HARRY EDGAR2, HORACE1) was born 15 Aug 1948 in Ottawa, Kansas. She married THOMAS ANDERSON PARK 30 Jul 1971 in Lincoln City, Oregon. He was born 26 Feb 1947. More About THOMAS PARK and LEAH CARR: Marriage: 30 Jul 1971, Lincoln City, Oregon Children of LEAH CARR and THOMAS PARK are: i. RYAN KAY5 PARK, b. 10 Mar 1974, Meesa, Arizona; m. REBECCA LEE BORNHOFF, 03 May 1996, Gilbert. Arizona. More About RYAN PARK and REBECCA BORNHOFF: Marriage: 03 May 1996, Gilbert. Arizona ii. BUFFY KAY PARK, b. 09 Mar 1978, Mesa, Arizona; m. JOSHUA DARRELL WHITTINGTON, 15 Oct 1998, Mesa, Arizona. More About JOSHUA WHITTINGTON and BUFFY PARK: Marriage: 15 Oct 1998, Mesa, Arizona Generation No. 5 10. PETER FISHER5 MATTERN (KATHLEEN4 NEWLAND, WANDA MAE3 CRAM, HARRY EDGAR2, HORACE1) was born 17 Apr 1967 in San Bernardino, CA.. He married LISA PERRY 24 Jan 1988 in Highland, CA.. More About PETER MATTERN and LISA PERRY: Marriage: 24 Jan 1988, Highland, CA. Child of PETER MATTERN and LISA PERRY is: i. RYAN6 MATTERN, b. abt 1989. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JDSshipbld@cs.com> To: <momiller@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [MOMILLER] Haney, Pearl-Harry Cram > Does anyone know if the 2 Harry Carms below are the same person?? > > Jim S > _____________________ > > Descendants of Robert Benjamin Haney > > 1 Robert Benjamin Haney b: 18 Oct 1868 d: 24 Jul 1953 > .. +Mary Malinda Bryant > . 2 Pearl Jane Haney b: 17 Oct 1893 d: 29 Aug 1956 > *********************** > ..... +Harry Edgar Cram **************************** > . 2 Benjamin Haney b: 29 Jun 1895 d: 27 Feb 1978 > ..... +Mary Anna Goldsmith b: 09 Aug 1889 d: 03 Aug 1952 > . 2 Clifford Haney b: Jan 1897 d: Dec 1897 > . 2 Fred Haney b: 16 Mar 1898 d: 24 Jul 1963 > ..... +Louise Day > . 2 Olive Catherine Haney b: 15 Jan 1900 d: 08 Mar 1973 > ..... +Clyde Bussell > . 2 Dora Hylton Haney b: 05 Oct 1903 d: 26 Jul 1989 > ************************* > ..... +William J. Hylton > . *2nd Husband of Dora Hylton Haney: > ..... +Harry Edger Cram ********************************* > . 2 Frank Haney b: 10 Feb 1906 d: 20 Sep 1993 > ..... +Pearl Elizabeth Cunningham > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOMILLER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >