Hi Marilyn. Thanks for letting me know. We just have to keep plugging! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Carnell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] Fleming, Combs,Bonebrake, DeWitt, Cleveland > Sorry, I changed computers & these messages got hung up in the spam > program. I haven't learned any more lately. Check out the > www.luckydogwms.com for some info from the Historical Society meeting > last week. The round stones are still a bit of a mystery. > Marilyn > > The Ellertsons wrote: >> Marilyn. Any new info on this subject? >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marilyn Carnell-Williams" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:19 AM >> Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] Fleming, Combs,Bonebrake, DeWitt, Cleveland >> >> >> >>> Carolyn, >>> In your Civil War research, have you run across any specific information >>> about the war in McDonald Co? I am particularly interested in finding >>> where >>> the "Battle of Pineville" occurred and where Sterling Price's HQ was >>> located. I have read several accounts in the "Official Records" (The >>> Cornell >>> University MOA site is a gold mine, original text and searchable) There >>> is >>> one account of Coffee's 500 bivouacking (sp?) In "Garden Hollow" There >>> is >>> no >>> such name here. There is a Gordon Hollow & a Gooden Hollow, both south >>> of >>> Pineville. Gooden Hollow is between Pineville and Riverside. Gordon is >>> closer to the Jane community. Either could have been transcribed as >>> Garden. >>> There was also a skirmish at Pineville at another time and of course, >>> the >>> bushwhackers burned the courthouse. >>> >>> A local woman told me that they shelled the area around the Pineville >>> Cemetery (by Elk River) and also that there was fighting from Big Sugar >>> Creek valley toward the town to the west. A cannon ball was found in a >>> hill >>> near that area a few years ago. It is sad that so much local history has >>> been lost. >>> >>> Marilyn Carnell-Williams >>> [email protected] >>> See our blog at http://luckydogwms.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On Behalf Of The Ellertsons >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:22 PM >>> To: [email protected]; [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] Fleming, Combs,Bonebrake, DeWitt, Cleveland >>> >>> >>> Matthew, thank you for your response! I will be delighted to have >>> anything >>> you are willing to share, and happy to reciprocate as well. I heard the >>> same >>> >>> story about how Ladora and William met from my aunt Joan Fleming, and >>> probably from my mother as well. My mother had a lovely voice, and sang >>> in >>> the glee club as a young lady, so knew how to harmonize with other >>> voices, >>> and make them beautiful, and I can still remember my (maternal) >>> grandmother >>> singing to me before I went to sleep as a child, so it must run in the >>> family. I have been to the Fleming plot at the IOOF in Neosho. I assumed >>> that Ladora was there also, and even though the cemetery recorder told >>> me >>> she had been brought back from Oklahoma, and I have that news article, I >>> could find no stone for her in the Fleming plot. I spent hours there the >>> day >>> >>> I visited, while my husband got a well deserved day hitting a few golf >>> balls >>> >>> on a local green. He had spent hours driving, so it was much needed, and >>> gave me guilt free time at the cemetery. I even left my name and >>> address >>> tucked under the headstone in a laminated case, but never heard from >>> anyone, >>> >>> and it has been seven years. Either no one ever visits the family >>> gravesite, >>> >>> lives too far away, or wasn't interested. The Fleming monument >>> announcing >>> their family plot is large and impressive, as I am sure they intended, >>> but >>> the headstones are the sweet old originals, and I loved them. Both >>> William >>> and a daughter who died young, named "Hallie" are buried there, and the >>> stones are the round pillow type. None for Ladora that I could find. >>> Perhaps >>> >>> she is in a different part of the cemetery? Down the hill from the >>> family >>> plot is the original section of the cemetery. I read that it was >>> originally >>> opened to receive the civil war dead, and unlike most cemeteries that >>> eventually make a new one somewhere, the IOOF just kept growing and >>> growing >>> >>> in the same location. Was told there are about 10,000 graves there at >>> the >>> time. What really fried me, however is the deplorable condition of that >>> precious keeper of our civil war history. The stones were toppled over, >>> grass unkept, etc. I think I even wrote to the historical society or >>> someone >>> >>> about it. I do not know if you are aware of it or not, but William was a >>> confederate civil war veteran. That might be where I can best help you, >>> if >>> you are interested in military history. I became a "civil war bore" as a >>> result of researching several of my ancestors' military history. Also >>> became >>> >>> pretty up on the Revolutionary war when researching my northern >>> relatives. >>> I >>> >>> have yet to find all I am really after, but it's a start. I know what >>> unit >>> he was in, some of the battles they were engaged in, and miscellaneous >>> military stuff etc., and the best places to search for people. The >>> greater >>> share of military researchers are men, but we women are catching up, and >>> they are wonderfully helpful to us. I like to think it actually works >>> better, because women and men think differently, so each sometimes >>> approaches things in a different way and one that might get better >>> results >>> than the others (at least that time!) Particularly when it comes to the >>> technical aspect of it. I couldn't tell if you had the picture of Ladora >>> and >>> >>> William together. If not, I will scan and send, or make you a copy if >>> you >>> would like one. She looks like a very sweet woman. From what I can tell, >>> he >>> was a little more strict and proper. I have no picture of William at all >>> except for the aforementioned and one I found on the internet of him >>> with >>> his civil war unit at a confederate reunion in 1902. We can talk later >>> about >>> >>> the military stuff, but it is really fun when you get into it. Pretty >>> soon >>> you are trying to follow them through the battles and what is taking >>> place >>> around them, and we get just enough civil war history in American >>> History >>> classes to make us recognize some of what is going on. Some of the >>> people >>> on >>> >>> the message boards are experts, and so very helpful to everyone. They >>> love >>> a >>> >>> challenge, and have helped me several times (I've helped them too!). I >>> think >>> >>> that the more we dig into this, the more fun it will be, and the more >>> mysteries we can solve. Thanks for jumping in! You can email me at: >>> [email protected] Thanks again. ( >>> PS: What part of the country do you live in? I live on the west coast. >>> Carolyn >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:09 PM >>> Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] Fleming, Combs,Bonebrake, DeWitt, Cleveland >>> >>> >>> >>>> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >>>> >>>> Author: MLCombs1978 >>>> Surnames: >>>> Classification: queries >>>> >>>> Message Board URL: >>>> >>>> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.coun >>>> ties.mcdonald/1616.1.2.1/mb.ashx >>>> >>>> Message Board Post: >>>> >>>> Hello Carolyn, >>>> >>>> >>>> good to hear from you as well! >>>> Ladora was certainly a busy writer, and until her death she wrote many >>>> letters to her son, Murray Sr, and to his family. The letters I have >>>> begin >>>> >>>> in 1890 when she was 34 and continue on until a few years before her >>>> death. She always begins with "my darling boy," or "my darling ones >>>> all," >>>> and her personality is easily apparent in her style of writing. Carol >>>> and >>>> Nell are also mentioned in some letters. >>>> >>>> >>>> One fact I am sure that you will be interested in is that I read >>>> LaDora >>>> met William Flemming in church and was initially attracted to him >>>> because >>>> he had a nice singing voice. When I come across the place where I read >>>> that I will make a copy for you. >>>> >>>> I am currently setting aside things, as I go through them, that you >>>> might >>>> be interested in getting a copy of. I have a telegram to Murray Combs, >>>> informing about LaDora's death, and a whole book of pictures of Murray >>>> and >>>> >>>> possibly his first wife spending time at Riverside Farm Inn, with some >>>> pictures of LaDora and one of her with her brother, Henry Carroll. >>>> >>>> Also, there is a note on one of the papers I have that says "W.H. >>>> Flemming >>>> 1845 - 1924 I.O.O.F Cemetery." >>>> I have not done any research on William Flemming or his line, but as I >>>> go >>>> through these letters and such, I will keep sending you more >>>> information. >>>> Do you have an email where we can continue correspondence? >>>> >>>> It is great to connect with you and I look forward to being able to >>>> shine >>>> some light on your heritage! >>>> >>>> matthew >>>> >>>> Important Note: >>>> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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