The phone number at the library is unchanged. Easiest way to contact the library is through their website at: mcdonaldcountylibrary.org. I have already checked their obit index & didn't find Billie's name. It is unlikely she died in the McDonald Co. area if her obit isn't there. There are three Timberlakes mentioned in the index. Billie isn't one of them unless her real name was Thelma. As I suggested earlier, some of their obits might mention Billie. Full texts can be obtained from the library. Ginger Blue Resort was on Elk River between Lanagan & Noel. Bosky Dell was a small cabin resort that was once on Indian Creek. There was also a place called Riverside Inn on Elk River between Pineville & Noel. I don't recall any circus performers who lived in the area. Several carnival people lived near the Longview community in NE part of the county, pretty far from Noel. Marilyn Carnell-Williams [email protected] See our blog at http://luckydogwms.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] Question regarding Noel,Missouri area - Circus performers??? This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: babybear63123 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.m cdonald/2876.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Noel, MO, is a very small town. There is also a small resort area along Indian Creek, but not much else goes on. I have never run across any of these names in McDonald County. My mother grew up in that area, and she did not remember any of the names. I have an old address and phone number of the McDonald County Library from several years ago. The address is Rt. 2, Box 2035, Pineville, MO 64856. The phone number is 417-223-4489. They might be able to help you. Christie Setser Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To contact the MOMCDONA list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the MOMCDONA mailing list, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

According to the McDonald Co. library site Thelma and Charles Timberlake are buried at the Noel Cemetery. Contact the library for full copies of their obits. Thelma died in 1969 & Charles in 1961. There might be some clues there. William died in 1930 & is buried at Pineville Cemetery. Marilyn Carnell-Williams [email protected] See our blog at http://luckydogwms.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of The Ellertsons Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 3:44 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] Question regarding Noel,Missouri area - Circus performers??? Nice try huh? I'll keep my eyes open for you. Have you tried the Find A Grave, Interment.net, Cemetery Survey etc.? Have you tried googling "burial Billie Timberlake"? Was she associated with the Cherokee Nation in any way? There are Timberlakes in that group. My Seabolts married into them. Carolyn (Kalama, WA) ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] Question regarding Noel,Missouri area - Circus performers??? > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: shmilybrandon > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.coun > ties.mcdonald/2876.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Thank you for your reply, but I've tried that already and gleamed what > little bit of ifnormation I could from those entries. None tell where she > died or when. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > To contact the MOMCDONA list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the MOMCDONA mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.108/2383 - Release Date: 09/19/09 17:50:00 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To contact the MOMCDONA list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the MOMCDONA mailing list, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nice try huh? I'll keep my eyes open for you. Have you tried the Find A Grave, Interment.net, Cemetery Survey etc.? Have you tried googling "burial Billie Timberlake"? Was she associated with the Cherokee Nation in any way? There are Timberlakes in that group. My Seabolts married into them. Carolyn (Kalama, WA) ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] Question regarding Noel,Missouri area - Circus performers??? > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: shmilybrandon > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.mcdonald/2876.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Thank you for your reply, but I've tried that already and gleamed what > little bit of ifnormation I could from those entries. None tell where she > died or when. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > To contact the MOMCDONA list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the MOMCDONA mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.108/2383 - Release Date: 09/19/09 17:50:00

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: shmilybrandon Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.mcdonald/2876.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for your reply, but I've tried that already and gleamed what little bit of ifnormation I could from those entries. None tell where she died or when. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cellertson02 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.mcdonald/2876.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If you will google "billie Timberlake" with the quotation marks around it you will see several genealogy sites come up with that lady's name in it. Good luck Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: shmilybrandon Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.mcdonald/2876/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My family and I have been despearately searching for my great-aunt for over 40 years to no avail. I recently learned that she may have been living in Noel, Missouri area in the 1950's. She was circus performer for many, many years and I'm trying to figure out if this area was where performers maybe stayed during off-season. My great-aunt's name was Bernice Pea Timberlake. She had a few different "stage" names. Billie Lake, Billie Timberlake, or Billie Silverlake. I guess I'm sort of hoping/praying someone in this area maybe able to give me some information on her or possibly the circus people. Thanks in advance. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mcarterj Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.mcdonald/2875/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Mcdonald Board,Looking for some info on a Elizabeth McArter,She married a Marion Vaughan,Page 325,1893 in Berry co,any info??? she was a frend of judge utter in mcdonald co mo,she was at his 60th birthday Party,jim in ky Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: macstew8ster Surnames: Anderson, Meador, Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.mcdonald/363.380.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Robert Anderson, who was the founder of Anderson and postmaster, He would be my great, great grandfather. I think his father was Robert H. Anderson, and his father Nelson. If you have information to share, I would appreciate hearing from you and I will gladly share what I know. Mary Stewart Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: macstew8ster Surnames: Anderson, Meador, Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.mcdonald/363.380.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I, too, am a direct descendant of Illinois Meador and Stephen Anderson. They had a daughter named Artie Bell who married Francis Tuck. Artie is my grandmother. I would love to hear from you. Mary Stewart Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: macstew8ster Surnames: Anderson, Meador, Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.mcdonald/363.381/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Martin Meador is the father of Marshall and Illinois Meador, who is my great grandmother. She married Stephen Anderson, son of Robert Anderson for whom the town of Anderson is named. Mary Stewart Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kUtterJennings73 Surnames: UTTER Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.mcdonald/2874/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am searching for information and/or pictures about Rocky Comfort, the Modern Woodmen of the World, cornet bands, and Rocky Comfort yearbooks, years: 1952-1955 & 1960-1963. Also searching for more information about my great, great-grandfather, David Jefferson Utter and his children: Elmer Lewis, Frank Edwin, Jennie Mae, William J., Sarah Leona, Milton George "Miltie", Thomas "Tom" Hendrix, Walter E., Daniel N., and my great-grandfather, Dee Jay Utter. David J. had a cornet band and at least one son, Walter, was a Woodmen of the World. I have a lot of information I will share, also. Thank you, Karen Utter Jennings Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Jody: My GGrandfather was James Kimsey Hall.? He was illigetimate.? The 1850 Barry County census shows him living with John Payton Hall, Sr.? On his death certificate they listed Betsy Hall as his mother and father unknown.? I believe he was the child of Elizabeth Hall, but have no proof.? I thought she had died 2 yrs after he was born in 1851, but someone on the Rootsweb claims to be a descendent of hers.? Do you have any family history on Kimsey?? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Susan -----Original Message----- From: Jody Dover <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:41 am Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] John Payton Hall Susan, Lois was my ggg grandmother. She is buried in McDonald County in?a cemetery that is now on some farmland. I have the name of what it was called in my notes. I think it is on Jacket Road not too far from Roller Cemetery. I will get my files out today and give you more specifics. I know that the graves in that cemetery have been run over by weeds and the stones toppled. I've heard this from other Hall's that are no longer with us and from some distant cousins who were at the cemetery years ago. ? Jody Hall Dover --- On Sat, 8/29/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] John Payton Hall To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 1:26 AM This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SusanRoland51 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.mcdonald/1298.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone know where Lois Mashburn Hall was buried? Susan r Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To contact the MOMCDONA list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the MOMCDONA mailing list, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To contact the MOMCDONA list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the MOMCDONA mailing list, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There are lots of Halls in the www.mcdonaldcountylibrary.org data base. I don't see a Lois Mashburn, but perhaps another name might give you a clue. Go to the genealogy part of the site. The earliest date I saw was 1890. Marilyn Carnell-Williams [email protected] See our blog at http://luckydogwms.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:27 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] John Payton Hall This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SusanRoland51 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.m cdonald/1298.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone know where Lois Mashburn Hall was buried? Susan r Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To contact the MOMCDONA list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the MOMCDONA mailing list, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Susan, Lois was my ggg grandmother. She is buried in McDonald County in a cemetery that is now on some farmland. I have the name of what it was called in my notes. I think it is on Jacket Road not too far from Roller Cemetery. I will get my files out today and give you more specifics. I know that the graves in that cemetery have been run over by weeds and the stones toppled. I've heard this from other Hall's that are no longer with us and from some distant cousins who were at the cemetery years ago.   Jody Hall Dover --- On Sat, 8/29/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] John Payton Hall To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 1:26 AM This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SusanRoland51 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.mcdonald/1298.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone know where Lois Mashburn Hall was buried? Susan r Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To contact the MOMCDONA list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the MOMCDONA mailing list, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SusanRoland51 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.mcdonald/1797.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My GGrandfather was James Kimsey Hall, possible illigetimate child of Betsy (Elizabeth) Hall. He is living with John Payton Hall Sr. family in 1850 Barry Co Missouri census. Would love to share info. Susan R. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SusanRoland51 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.mcdonald/1298.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone know where Lois Mashburn Hall was buried? Susan r Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Try Arizona. The current owner of Riverside Inn property bought the "Fleming Ranch" there near Phoenix, I think. You & others might find the new site that is like a "flyover" of McDonald County. It is www.mcdonaldcountygov.com (don't ask me about the dippy name). If you zoom in enough, you can see the property lines, acreage amounts & owner's names. Kind of interesting to poke around on the site. I have found some errors (The Library is not owned by the school; it bought the property from the school more than 30 years ago.) Evidently they haven't kept the official records up to date as carefully as we would like. Thanks for all the news Carolyn. Aunt Pauline was a character alright. I got a kick out of her. Marilyn Carnell-Williams [email protected] See our blog at http://luckydogwms.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of The Ellertsons Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] Pauline Dalton Williams (and Fleming catchup) Hi Marilyn! Nice to hear from you also! I would have given anything to have sat down and had a cup of coffee with your Aunt Pauline. She sounded like such a gem. One by one we lose them, and now we're the next generation. I'm 65 now, and my biological clock is ticking faster than ever with regard to my family history. I've been doing a few things and had great luck with some other lines, but the Flemings still elude me past what we pretty much already have. Sometime when you're bored, maybe you could help me find a Will, or some probate record of my great grandfather, William Henry Fleming. You know, he spent the last six months of his life at his daughter's home in Collinsville, Oklahoma, and his second wife LaDora died there as well. Both were taken back to be buried in Neosho IOOF Cemetery, but Oklahoma has no death certificate for William. Just bizarre. I was able to get a death certificate for LaDora (not my great grandmother, who was William's first wife, Mary Emma Hamlin, who died in Texas at a young age). In any case, although Retha and you have been so wonderful to me and helped me so much, I have yet to be able to move past William in that line. It's as though his parents dropped off the face of the earth. There is even other William Henry Fleming/Flemmings, but they are not the right one, so I've tried a couple of wild goose chases in surrounding states. I have tried Texas too, as there's a bunch of them there, and that is where William enlisted for the civil war, according to his obit, but to be truthful, the people there have not been much help. One lady at the genealogical society in Hood County, where my grandfather was born (William's son by Mary Hamlin) told me (upon hearing what I DID have) that I probably had enough about him for my family history on him. I think she was probably trying to make me feel like I had accomplished SOMETHING, but it didn't help me with my brick wall a bit. I would even take a death certificate for his brother James ("Uncle Jim") who was married to Mary Meador (thank you Retha!), but although I have the obit, I don't have the latter, which could conceivably show who his parents were. He died in Oklahoma but was also taken back to Missouri for burial (Anderson).I would love to visit you all again, knowing what I know now! My husband had a stroke in 2005, and subsequently a back operation that was scheduled before he had it (they would then not touch him for 9 months), and the fusion of a bone in his foot, so we have had lots of recovery to deal with in our lives. Throw in work, animal chores, grandkids, and everything else, and we never get off the treadmill. I have also lost several extended family members and lifelong friends this past year, and lost my sister Sara Kathleen Ropp nee Cleveland, (daughter of Claudia Fleming Cleveland, William's granddaughter who used to live in Pineville, and grew up going to Riverside Farm Inn Resort on the Elk River) to cancer last September. I miss her so very much.. I also lost my mother in law a month later. It's been a rough year around here, and really puts things where they are with regard to one's mortality, but in the meantime, we all have to keep living, and that's even harder sometimes. I still need to work, but it's impossible at my age, and this economy, so temporarily on the unemployment line. Not for long I hope..The world is such a mess, isn't it? I have six biological grandchildren now from age 4 months to 15 years, and one foster grandchild that is 2 1/2. They are precious, and I want to do so many things for them. There just isn't enough time in the world to do it all. Back to William for a minute.. I would have thought that I could find real estate records for the Riverside property, but I haven't even been able to find that. Am I looking in the wrong places? I've tried glo-records (BLM). Where are the early property records for Newton and McDonald Counties kept? I assume Neosho records would be right there, but what about Noel and Pineville? Thanks for any tips you care to contribute. So glad to see you are still out there pitching to us. Just so great of you, and so good to hear from you. Talk soon. Carolyn Carolyn (Kalama, WA) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Carnell-Williams" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:15 AM Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] Pauline Dalton Williams > Carolyn, > > Nice to see your name pop up. Aunt Pauline Carnell passed away a > couple of years ago. She was 103. Yes, she did know a lot of local > history. Sounds like the article has been found at the library. > > Marilyn Carnell-Williams > [email protected] > See our blog at http://luckydogwms.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of The Ellertsons > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:23 AM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] Pauline Dalton Williams > > > Is it safe to assume you have corresponded with Marilyn Carnell > Williams > of > McDonald County board? She has an aunt Pauline that is in her 80's if > still > alive. I haven't communicated with her for some time, but Marilyn's Aunt > Pauline does genealogy the old way, and knows a bunch of stuff! Carolyn > (Kalama, WA) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:50 PM > Subject: [MOMcDona] Pauline Dalton Williams > > >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Author: JoyceSnell64 >> Surnames: Dalton, Williams >> Classification: queries >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.cou >> n >> ties.mcdonald/2873/mb.ashx >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> Pauline was married to my uncle, Clem Williams. She was struck and >> killed by a car on Sept 24, 1949. Am hoping to find a newspaper >> article about >> this fatal accident. No one from RAOGK does newspaper/obit lookup for >> McDonald Co. Accident happened at or near Anderson, MO on Highway 71. >> Not even certain if this highway is there today . . . ??? Please >> contact > >> me with suggestions or perhaps an offer to lookup. 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Hi Marilyn! Nice to hear from you also! I would have given anything to have sat down and had a cup of coffee with your Aunt Pauline. She sounded like such a gem. One by one we lose them, and now we're the next generation. I'm 65 now, and my biological clock is ticking faster than ever with regard to my family history. I've been doing a few things and had great luck with some other lines, but the Flemings still elude me past what we pretty much already have. Sometime when you're bored, maybe you could help me find a Will, or some probate record of my great grandfather, William Henry Fleming. You know, he spent the last six months of his life at his daughter's home in Collinsville, Oklahoma, and his second wife LaDora died there as well. Both were taken back to be buried in Neosho IOOF Cemetery, but Oklahoma has no death certificate for William. Just bizarre. I was able to get a death certificate for LaDora (not my great grandmother, who was William's first wife, Mary Emma Hamlin, who died in Texas at a young age). In any case, although Retha and you have been so wonderful to me and helped me so much, I have yet to be able to move past William in that line. It's as though his parents dropped off the face of the earth. There is even other William Henry Fleming/Flemmings, but they are not the right one, so I've tried a couple of wild goose chases in surrounding states. I have tried Texas too, as there's a bunch of them there, and that is where William enlisted for the civil war, according to his obit, but to be truthful, the people there have not been much help. One lady at the genealogical society in Hood County, where my grandfather was born (William's son by Mary Hamlin) told me (upon hearing what I DID have) that I probably had enough about him for my family history on him. I think she was probably trying to make me feel like I had accomplished SOMETHING, but it didn't help me with my brick wall a bit. I would even take a death certificate for his brother James ("Uncle Jim") who was married to Mary Meador (thank you Retha!), but although I have the obit, I don't have the latter, which could conceivably show who his parents were. He died in Oklahoma but was also taken back to Missouri for burial (Anderson).I would love to visit you all again, knowing what I know now! My husband had a stroke in 2005, and subsequently a back operation that was scheduled before he had it (they would then not touch him for 9 months), and the fusion of a bone in his foot, so we have had lots of recovery to deal with in our lives. Throw in work, animal chores, grandkids, and everything else, and we never get off the treadmill. I have also lost several extended family members and lifelong friends this past year, and lost my sister Sara Kathleen Ropp nee Cleveland, (daughter of Claudia Fleming Cleveland, William's granddaughter who used to live in Pineville, and grew up going to Riverside Farm Inn Resort on the Elk River) to cancer last September. I miss her so very much.. I also lost my mother in law a month later. It's been a rough year around here, and really puts things where they are with regard to one's mortality, but in the meantime, we all have to keep living, and that's even harder sometimes. I still need to work, but it's impossible at my age, and this economy, so temporarily on the unemployment line. Not for long I hope..The world is such a mess, isn't it? I have six biological grandchildren now from age 4 months to 15 years, and one foster grandchild that is 2 1/2. They are precious, and I want to do so many things for them. There just isn't enough time in the world to do it all. Back to William for a minute.. I would have thought that I could find real estate records for the Riverside property, but I haven't even been able to find that. Am I looking in the wrong places? I've tried glo-records (BLM). Where are the early property records for Newton and McDonald Counties kept? I assume Neosho records would be right there, but what about Noel and Pineville? Thanks for any tips you care to contribute. So glad to see you are still out there pitching to us. Just so great of you, and so good to hear from you. Talk soon. Carolyn Carolyn (Kalama, WA) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Carnell-Williams" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:15 AM Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] Pauline Dalton Williams > Carolyn, > > Nice to see your name pop up. Aunt Pauline Carnell passed away a couple of > years ago. She was 103. Yes, she did know a lot of local history. Sounds > like the article has been found at the library. > > Marilyn Carnell-Williams > [email protected] > See our blog at http://luckydogwms.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of The Ellertsons > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:23 AM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] Pauline Dalton Williams > > > Is it safe to assume you have corresponded with Marilyn Carnell Williams > of > McDonald County board? She has an aunt Pauline that is in her 80's if > still > alive. I haven't communicated with her for some time, but Marilyn's Aunt > Pauline does genealogy the old way, and knows a bunch of stuff! Carolyn > (Kalama, WA) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:50 PM > Subject: [MOMcDona] Pauline Dalton Williams > > >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Author: JoyceSnell64 >> Surnames: Dalton, Williams >> Classification: queries >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.coun >> ties.mcdonald/2873/mb.ashx >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> Pauline was married to my uncle, Clem Williams. She was struck and >> killed >> by a car on Sept 24, 1949. Am hoping to find a newspaper article about >> this fatal accident. No one from RAOGK does newspaper/obit lookup for >> McDonald Co. Accident happened at or near Anderson, MO on Highway 71. >> Not even certain if this highway is there today . . . ??? Please >> contact > >> me with suggestions or perhaps an offer to lookup. 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Carolyn, Nice to see your name pop up. Aunt Pauline Carnell passed away a couple of years ago. She was 103. Yes, she did know a lot of local history. Sounds like the article has been found at the library. Marilyn Carnell-Williams [email protected] See our blog at http://luckydogwms.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of The Ellertsons Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:23 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] Pauline Dalton Williams Is it safe to assume you have corresponded with Marilyn Carnell Williams of McDonald County board? She has an aunt Pauline that is in her 80's if still alive. I haven't communicated with her for some time, but Marilyn's Aunt Pauline does genealogy the old way, and knows a bunch of stuff! Carolyn (Kalama, WA) ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:50 PM Subject: [MOMcDona] Pauline Dalton Williams > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: JoyceSnell64 > Surnames: Dalton, Williams > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.coun > ties.mcdonald/2873/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Pauline was married to my uncle, Clem Williams. She was struck and > killed > by a car on Sept 24, 1949. Am hoping to find a newspaper article about > this fatal accident. No one from RAOGK does newspaper/obit lookup for > McDonald Co. Accident happened at or near Anderson, MO on Highway 71. > Not even certain if this highway is there today . . . ??? Please contact > me with suggestions or perhaps an offer to lookup. Thanks. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > To contact the MOMCDONA list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the MOMCDONA mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.67/2326 - Release Date: 08/25/09 18:07:00 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To contact the MOMCDONA list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the MOMCDONA mailing list, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WFields0223 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.mcdonald/2873.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: L found the article. E-mail me at [email protected], and I will send it to you. Put Pauline Williams in the Subject. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.