I know about the two battles of Newtonia. It is about 30 mile NE of Pineville in Newton Co. A very important site in the war & on its way to being a national battle site. The first battle was in 1862 & both sides were largely made up of Native American fighters. Interesting. A local artist has been commissioned to do a mural about that battle. Would appreciate any help. We were between Pea Ridge & Wilson's Creek & HQ for CSA Sterling Price for a time. J.O. Shelby was also here. An interesting array of characters. Marilyn Carnell-Williams [email protected] See our blog at http://luckydogwms.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of The Ellertsons Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 11:18 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] Fleming, Combs,Bonebrake, DeWitt, Cleveland Marilyn. I am out the door to pick grapes of all things, but I have learned a lot since I first started. I might be able to help. Give me a few days to dig around my stuff. One of the battles was at Newtonia. I think the Pineville on can be honed in on if you give me a little time. Back to you as soon as I can. Carolyn (Kalama, WA) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Carnell-Williams" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] Fleming, Combs,Bonebrake, DeWitt, Cleveland > Carolyn, > In your Civil War research, have you run across any specific > information about the war in McDonald Co? I am particularly interested > in finding where the "Battle of Pineville" occurred and where Sterling > Price's HQ was located. I have read several accounts in the "Official > Records" (The Cornell > University MOA site is a gold mine, original text and searchable) There is > one account of Coffee's 500 bivouacking (sp?) In "Garden Hollow" There is > no > such name here. There is a Gordon Hollow & a Gooden Hollow, both south of > Pineville. Gooden Hollow is between Pineville and Riverside. Gordon is > closer to the Jane community. Either could have been transcribed as > Garden. > There was also a skirmish at Pineville at another time and of course, the > bushwhackers burned the courthouse. > > A local woman told me that they shelled the area around the Pineville > Cemetery (by Elk River) and also that there was fighting from Big > Sugar Creek valley toward the town to the west. A cannon ball was > found in a hill near that area a few years ago. It is sad that so much > local history has been lost. > > Marilyn Carnell-Williams > [email protected] > See our blog at http://luckydogwms.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of The Ellertsons > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:22 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] Fleming, Combs,Bonebrake, DeWitt, Cleveland > > > Matthew, thank you for your response! I will be delighted to have > anything you are willing to share, and happy to reciprocate as well. I > heard the same > > story about how Ladora and William met from my aunt Joan Fleming, and > probably from my mother as well. My mother had a lovely voice, and > sang in the glee club as a young lady, so knew how to harmonize with > other voices, and make them beautiful, and I can still remember my > (maternal) grandmother singing to me before I went to sleep as a > child, so it must run in the family. I have been to the Fleming plot > at the IOOF in Neosho. I assumed that Ladora was there also, and even > though the cemetery recorder told me she had been brought back from > Oklahoma, and I have that news article, I could find no stone for her > in the Fleming plot. I spent hours there the day > > I visited, while my husband got a well deserved day hitting a few golf > balls > > on a local green. He had spent hours driving, so it was much needed, > and gave me guilt free time at the cemetery. I even left my name and > address tucked under the headstone in a laminated case, but never > heard from anyone, > > and it has been seven years. Either no one ever visits the family > gravesite, > > lives too far away, or wasn't interested. The Fleming monument > announcing their family plot is large and impressive, as I am sure > they intended, but the headstones are the sweet old originals, and I > loved them. Both William and a daughter who died young, named "Hallie" > are buried there, and the stones are the round pillow type. None for > Ladora that I could find. Perhaps > > she is in a different part of the cemetery? Down the hill from the > family plot is the original section of the cemetery. I read that it > was originally opened to receive the civil war dead, and unlike most > cemeteries that eventually make a new one somewhere, the IOOF just > kept growing and growing > > in the same location. Was told there are about 10,000 graves there at > the time. What really fried me, however is the deplorable condition of > that precious keeper of our civil war history. The stones were > toppled over, grass unkept, etc. I think I even wrote to the > historical society or someone > > about it. I do not know if you are aware of it or not, but William was > a confederate civil war veteran. That might be where I can best help > you, if you are interested in military history. I became a "civil war > bore" as a result of researching several of my ancestors' military > history. Also became > > pretty up on the Revolutionary war when researching my northern > relatives. > I > > have yet to find all I am really after, but it's a start. I know what > unit he was in, some of the battles they were engaged in, and > miscellaneous military stuff etc., and the best places to search for > people. The greater share of military researchers are men, but we > women are catching up, and they are wonderfully helpful to us. I like > to think it actually works better, because women and men think > differently, so each sometimes approaches things in a different way > and one that might get better results than the others (at least that > time!) Particularly when it comes to the technical aspect of it. I > couldn't tell if you had the picture of Ladora and > > William together. If not, I will scan and send, or make you a copy if > you would like one. She looks like a very sweet woman. From what I can > tell, he was a little more strict and proper. I have no picture of > William at all except for the aforementioned and one I found on the > internet of him with his civil war unit at a confederate reunion in > 1902. We can talk later about > > the military stuff, but it is really fun when you get into it. Pretty > soon you are trying to follow them through the battles and what is > taking place around them, and we get just enough civil war history in > American History classes to make us recognize some of what is going > on. Some of the people on > > the message boards are experts, and so very helpful to everyone. They > love > a > > challenge, and have helped me several times (I've helped them too!). I > think > > that the more we dig into this, the more fun it will be, and the more > mysteries we can solve. Thanks for jumping in! You can email me at: > [email protected] Thanks again. ( > PS: What part of the country do you live in? I live on the west coast. > Carolyn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:09 PM > Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] Fleming, Combs,Bonebrake, DeWitt, Cleveland > > >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Author: MLCombs1978 >> Surnames: >> Classification: queries >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.cou >> n >> ties.mcdonald/1616.1.2.1/mb.ashx >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> Hello Carolyn, >> >> >> good to hear from you as well! >> Ladora was certainly a busy writer, and until her death she wrote >> many letters to her son, Murray Sr, and to his family. The letters I >> have begin > >> in 1890 when she was 34 and continue on until a few years before her >> death. She always begins with "my darling boy," or "my darling ones >> all," and her personality is easily apparent in her style of writing. >> Carol and Nell are also mentioned in some letters. >> >> >> One fact I am sure that you will be interested in is that I read >> LaDora met William Flemming in church and was initially attracted to >> him because he had a nice singing voice. When I come across the place >> where I read that I will make a copy for you. >> >> I am currently setting aside things, as I go through them, that you >> might be interested in getting a copy of. I have a telegram to Murray >> Combs, informing about LaDora's death, and a whole book of pictures >> of Murray and > >> possibly his first wife spending time at Riverside Farm Inn, with >> some pictures of LaDora and one of her with her brother, Henry >> Carroll. >> >> Also, there is a note on one of the papers I have that says "W.H. >> Flemming 1845 - 1924 I.O.O.F Cemetery." >> I have not done any research on William Flemming or his line, but as I go >> through these letters and such, I will keep sending you more information. >> Do you have an email where we can continue correspondence? >> >> It is great to connect with you and I look forward to being able to >> shine some light on your heritage! >> >> matthew >> >> Important Note: >> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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Carolyn, In your Civil War research, have you run across any specific information about the war in McDonald Co? I am particularly interested in finding where the "Battle of Pineville" occurred and where Sterling Price's HQ was located. I have read several accounts in the "Official Records" (The Cornell University MOA site is a gold mine, original text and searchable) There is one account of Coffee's 500 bivouacking (sp?) In "Garden Hollow" There is no such name here. There is a Gordon Hollow & a Gooden Hollow, both south of Pineville. Gooden Hollow is between Pineville and Riverside. Gordon is closer to the Jane community. Either could have been transcribed as Garden. There was also a skirmish at Pineville at another time and of course, the bushwhackers burned the courthouse. A local woman told me that they shelled the area around the Pineville Cemetery (by Elk River) and also that there was fighting from Big Sugar Creek valley toward the town to the west. A cannon ball was found in a hill near that area a few years ago. It is sad that so much local history has been lost. Marilyn Carnell-Williams [email protected] See our blog at http://luckydogwms.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of The Ellertsons Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:22 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] Fleming, Combs,Bonebrake, DeWitt, Cleveland Matthew, thank you for your response! I will be delighted to have anything you are willing to share, and happy to reciprocate as well. I heard the same story about how Ladora and William met from my aunt Joan Fleming, and probably from my mother as well. My mother had a lovely voice, and sang in the glee club as a young lady, so knew how to harmonize with other voices, and make them beautiful, and I can still remember my (maternal) grandmother singing to me before I went to sleep as a child, so it must run in the family. I have been to the Fleming plot at the IOOF in Neosho. I assumed that Ladora was there also, and even though the cemetery recorder told me she had been brought back from Oklahoma, and I have that news article, I could find no stone for her in the Fleming plot. I spent hours there the day I visited, while my husband got a well deserved day hitting a few golf balls on a local green. He had spent hours driving, so it was much needed, and gave me guilt free time at the cemetery. I even left my name and address tucked under the headstone in a laminated case, but never heard from anyone, and it has been seven years. Either no one ever visits the family gravesite, lives too far away, or wasn't interested. The Fleming monument announcing their family plot is large and impressive, as I am sure they intended, but the headstones are the sweet old originals, and I loved them. Both William and a daughter who died young, named "Hallie" are buried there, and the stones are the round pillow type. None for Ladora that I could find. Perhaps she is in a different part of the cemetery? Down the hill from the family plot is the original section of the cemetery. I read that it was originally opened to receive the civil war dead, and unlike most cemeteries that eventually make a new one somewhere, the IOOF just kept growing and growing in the same location. Was told there are about 10,000 graves there at the time. What really fried me, however is the deplorable condition of that precious keeper of our civil war history. The stones were toppled over, grass unkept, etc. I think I even wrote to the historical society or someone about it. I do not know if you are aware of it or not, but William was a confederate civil war veteran. That might be where I can best help you, if you are interested in military history. I became a "civil war bore" as a result of researching several of my ancestors' military history. Also became pretty up on the Revolutionary war when researching my northern relatives. I have yet to find all I am really after, but it's a start. I know what unit he was in, some of the battles they were engaged in, and miscellaneous military stuff etc., and the best places to search for people. The greater share of military researchers are men, but we women are catching up, and they are wonderfully helpful to us. I like to think it actually works better, because women and men think differently, so each sometimes approaches things in a different way and one that might get better results than the others (at least that time!) Particularly when it comes to the technical aspect of it. I couldn't tell if you had the picture of Ladora and William together. If not, I will scan and send, or make you a copy if you would like one. She looks like a very sweet woman. From what I can tell, he was a little more strict and proper. I have no picture of William at all except for the aforementioned and one I found on the internet of him with his civil war unit at a confederate reunion in 1902. We can talk later about the military stuff, but it is really fun when you get into it. Pretty soon you are trying to follow them through the battles and what is taking place around them, and we get just enough civil war history in American History classes to make us recognize some of what is going on. Some of the people on the message boards are experts, and so very helpful to everyone. They love a challenge, and have helped me several times (I've helped them too!). I think that the more we dig into this, the more fun it will be, and the more mysteries we can solve. Thanks for jumping in! You can email me at: [email protected] Thanks again. ( PS: What part of the country do you live in? I live on the west coast. Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] Fleming, Combs,Bonebrake, DeWitt, Cleveland > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: MLCombs1978 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.coun > ties.mcdonald/1616.1.2.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Hello Carolyn, > > > good to hear from you as well! > Ladora was certainly a busy writer, and until her death she wrote many > letters to her son, Murray Sr, and to his family. The letters I have begin > in 1890 when she was 34 and continue on until a few years before her > death. She always begins with "my darling boy," or "my darling ones all," > and her personality is easily apparent in her style of writing. Carol and > Nell are also mentioned in some letters. > > > One fact I am sure that you will be interested in is that I read > LaDora > met William Flemming in church and was initially attracted to him because > he had a nice singing voice. When I come across the place where I read > that I will make a copy for you. > > I am currently setting aside things, as I go through them, that you > might > be interested in getting a copy of. I have a telegram to Murray Combs, > informing about LaDora's death, and a whole book of pictures of Murray and > possibly his first wife spending time at Riverside Farm Inn, with some > pictures of LaDora and one of her with her brother, Henry Carroll. > > Also, there is a note on one of the papers I have that says "W.H. > Flemming > 1845 - 1924 I.O.O.F Cemetery." > I have not done any research on William Flemming or his line, but as I go > through these letters and such, I will keep sending you more information. > Do you have an email where we can continue correspondence? > > It is great to connect with you and I look forward to being able to > shine > some light on your heritage! > > matthew > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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Marilyn. I am out the door to pick grapes of all things, but I have learned a lot since I first started. I might be able to help. Give me a few days to dig around my stuff. One of the battles was at Newtonia. I think the Pineville on can be honed in on if you give me a little time. Back to you as soon as I can. Carolyn (Kalama, WA) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Carnell-Williams" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] Fleming, Combs,Bonebrake, DeWitt, Cleveland > Carolyn, > In your Civil War research, have you run across any specific information > about the war in McDonald Co? I am particularly interested in finding > where > the "Battle of Pineville" occurred and where Sterling Price's HQ was > located. I have read several accounts in the "Official Records" (The > Cornell > University MOA site is a gold mine, original text and searchable) There is > one account of Coffee's 500 bivouacking (sp?) In "Garden Hollow" There is > no > such name here. There is a Gordon Hollow & a Gooden Hollow, both south of > Pineville. Gooden Hollow is between Pineville and Riverside. Gordon is > closer to the Jane community. Either could have been transcribed as > Garden. > There was also a skirmish at Pineville at another time and of course, the > bushwhackers burned the courthouse. > > A local woman told me that they shelled the area around the Pineville > Cemetery (by Elk River) and also that there was fighting from Big Sugar > Creek valley toward the town to the west. A cannon ball was found in a > hill > near that area a few years ago. It is sad that so much local history has > been lost. > > Marilyn Carnell-Williams > [email protected] > See our blog at http://luckydogwms.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of The Ellertsons > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:22 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] Fleming, Combs,Bonebrake, DeWitt, Cleveland > > > Matthew, thank you for your response! I will be delighted to have anything > you are willing to share, and happy to reciprocate as well. I heard the > same > > story about how Ladora and William met from my aunt Joan Fleming, and > probably from my mother as well. My mother had a lovely voice, and sang in > the glee club as a young lady, so knew how to harmonize with other voices, > and make them beautiful, and I can still remember my (maternal) > grandmother > singing to me before I went to sleep as a child, so it must run in the > family. I have been to the Fleming plot at the IOOF in Neosho. I assumed > that Ladora was there also, and even though the cemetery recorder told me > she had been brought back from Oklahoma, and I have that news article, I > could find no stone for her in the Fleming plot. I spent hours there the > day > > I visited, while my husband got a well deserved day hitting a few golf > balls > > on a local green. He had spent hours driving, so it was much needed, and > gave me guilt free time at the cemetery. I even left my name and address > tucked under the headstone in a laminated case, but never heard from > anyone, > > and it has been seven years. Either no one ever visits the family > gravesite, > > lives too far away, or wasn't interested. The Fleming monument announcing > their family plot is large and impressive, as I am sure they intended, but > the headstones are the sweet old originals, and I loved them. Both William > and a daughter who died young, named "Hallie" are buried there, and the > stones are the round pillow type. None for Ladora that I could find. > Perhaps > > she is in a different part of the cemetery? Down the hill from the family > plot is the original section of the cemetery. I read that it was > originally > opened to receive the civil war dead, and unlike most cemeteries that > eventually make a new one somewhere, the IOOF just kept growing and > growing > > in the same location. Was told there are about 10,000 graves there at the > time. What really fried me, however is the deplorable condition of that > precious keeper of our civil war history. The stones were toppled over, > grass unkept, etc. I think I even wrote to the historical society or > someone > > about it. I do not know if you are aware of it or not, but William was a > confederate civil war veteran. That might be where I can best help you, if > you are interested in military history. I became a "civil war bore" as a > result of researching several of my ancestors' military history. Also > became > > pretty up on the Revolutionary war when researching my northern relatives. > I > > have yet to find all I am really after, but it's a start. I know what unit > he was in, some of the battles they were engaged in, and miscellaneous > military stuff etc., and the best places to search for people. The greater > share of military researchers are men, but we women are catching up, and > they are wonderfully helpful to us. I like to think it actually works > better, because women and men think differently, so each sometimes > approaches things in a different way and one that might get better results > than the others (at least that time!) Particularly when it comes to the > technical aspect of it. I couldn't tell if you had the picture of Ladora > and > > William together. If not, I will scan and send, or make you a copy if you > would like one. She looks like a very sweet woman. From what I can tell, > he > was a little more strict and proper. I have no picture of William at all > except for the aforementioned and one I found on the internet of him with > his civil war unit at a confederate reunion in 1902. We can talk later > about > > the military stuff, but it is really fun when you get into it. Pretty soon > you are trying to follow them through the battles and what is taking place > around them, and we get just enough civil war history in American History > classes to make us recognize some of what is going on. Some of the people > on > > the message boards are experts, and so very helpful to everyone. They love > a > > challenge, and have helped me several times (I've helped them too!). I > think > > that the more we dig into this, the more fun it will be, and the more > mysteries we can solve. Thanks for jumping in! You can email me at: > [email protected] Thanks again. ( > PS: What part of the country do you live in? I live on the west coast. > Carolyn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:09 PM > Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] Fleming, Combs,Bonebrake, DeWitt, Cleveland > > >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Author: MLCombs1978 >> Surnames: >> Classification: queries >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.coun >> ties.mcdonald/1616.1.2.1/mb.ashx >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> Hello Carolyn, >> >> >> good to hear from you as well! >> Ladora was certainly a busy writer, and until her death she wrote many >> letters to her son, Murray Sr, and to his family. The letters I have >> begin > >> in 1890 when she was 34 and continue on until a few years before her >> death. She always begins with "my darling boy," or "my darling ones all," >> and her personality is easily apparent in her style of writing. Carol and >> Nell are also mentioned in some letters. >> >> >> One fact I am sure that you will be interested in is that I read >> LaDora >> met William Flemming in church and was initially attracted to him because >> he had a nice singing voice. When I come across the place where I read >> that I will make a copy for you. >> >> I am currently setting aside things, as I go through them, that you >> might >> be interested in getting a copy of. I have a telegram to Murray Combs, >> informing about LaDora's death, and a whole book of pictures of Murray >> and > >> possibly his first wife spending time at Riverside Farm Inn, with some >> pictures of LaDora and one of her with her brother, Henry Carroll. >> >> Also, there is a note on one of the papers I have that says "W.H. >> Flemming >> 1845 - 1924 I.O.O.F Cemetery." >> I have not done any research on William Flemming or his line, but as I go >> through these letters and such, I will keep sending you more information. >> Do you have an email where we can continue correspondence? >> >> It is great to connect with you and I look forward to being able to >> shine >> some light on your heritage! >> >> matthew >> >> Important Note: >> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MLCombs1978 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.mcdonald/1616.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Carolyn, good to hear from you as well! Ladora was certainly a busy writer, and until her death she wrote many letters to her son, Murray Sr, and to his family. The letters I have begin in 1890 when she was 34 and continue on until a few years before her death. She always begins with "my darling boy," or "my darling ones all," and her personality is easily apparent in her style of writing. Carol and Nell are also mentioned in some letters. One fact I am sure that you will be interested in is that I read LaDora met William Flemming in church and was initially attracted to him because he had a nice singing voice. When I come across the place where I read that I will make a copy for you. I am currently setting aside things, as I go through them, that you might be interested in getting a copy of. I have a telegram to Murray Combs, informing about LaDora's death, and a whole book of pictures of Murray and possibly his first wife spending time at Riverside Farm Inn, with some pictures of LaDora and one of her with her brother, Henry Carroll. Also, there is a note on one of the papers I have that says "W.H. Flemming 1845 - 1924 I.O.O.F Cemetery." I have not done any research on William Flemming or his line, but as I go through these letters and such, I will keep sending you more information. Do you have an email where we can continue correspondence? It is great to connect with you and I look forward to being able to shine some light on your heritage! matthew Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Matthew, thank you for your response! I will be delighted to have anything you are willing to share, and happy to reciprocate as well. I heard the same story about how Ladora and William met from my aunt Joan Fleming, and probably from my mother as well. My mother had a lovely voice, and sang in the glee club as a young lady, so knew how to harmonize with other voices, and make them beautiful, and I can still remember my (maternal) grandmother singing to me before I went to sleep as a child, so it must run in the family. I have been to the Fleming plot at the IOOF in Neosho. I assumed that Ladora was there also, and even though the cemetery recorder told me she had been brought back from Oklahoma, and I have that news article, I could find no stone for her in the Fleming plot. I spent hours there the day I visited, while my husband got a well deserved day hitting a few golf balls on a local green. He had spent hours driving, so it was much needed, and gave me guilt free time at the cemetery. I even left my name and address tucked under the headstone in a laminated case, but never heard from anyone, and it has been seven years. Either no one ever visits the family gravesite, lives too far away, or wasn't interested. The Fleming monument announcing their family plot is large and impressive, as I am sure they intended, but the headstones are the sweet old originals, and I loved them. Both William and a daughter who died young, named "Hallie" are buried there, and the stones are the round pillow type. None for Ladora that I could find. Perhaps she is in a different part of the cemetery? Down the hill from the family plot is the original section of the cemetery. I read that it was originally opened to receive the civil war dead, and unlike most cemeteries that eventually make a new one somewhere, the IOOF just kept growing and growing in the same location. Was told there are about 10,000 graves there at the time. What really fried me, however is the deplorable condition of that precious keeper of our civil war history. The stones were toppled over, grass unkept, etc. I think I even wrote to the historical society or someone about it. I do not know if you are aware of it or not, but William was a confederate civil war veteran. That might be where I can best help you, if you are interested in military history. I became a "civil war bore" as a result of researching several of my ancestors' military history. Also became pretty up on the Revolutionary war when researching my northern relatives. I have yet to find all I am really after, but it's a start. I know what unit he was in, some of the battles they were engaged in, and miscellaneous military stuff etc., and the best places to search for people. The greater share of military researchers are men, but we women are catching up, and they are wonderfully helpful to us. I like to think it actually works better, because women and men think differently, so each sometimes approaches things in a different way and one that might get better results than the others (at least that time!) Particularly when it comes to the technical aspect of it. I couldn't tell if you had the picture of Ladora and William together. If not, I will scan and send, or make you a copy if you would like one. She looks like a very sweet woman. From what I can tell, he was a little more strict and proper. I have no picture of William at all except for the aforementioned and one I found on the internet of him with his civil war unit at a confederate reunion in 1902. We can talk later about the military stuff, but it is really fun when you get into it. Pretty soon you are trying to follow them through the battles and what is taking place around them, and we get just enough civil war history in American History classes to make us recognize some of what is going on. Some of the people on the message boards are experts, and so very helpful to everyone. They love a challenge, and have helped me several times (I've helped them too!). I think that the more we dig into this, the more fun it will be, and the more mysteries we can solve. Thanks for jumping in! You can email me at: [email protected] Thanks again. ( PS: What part of the country do you live in? I live on the west coast. Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] Fleming, Combs,Bonebrake, DeWitt, Cleveland > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: MLCombs1978 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.mcdonald/1616.1.2.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Hello Carolyn, > > > good to hear from you as well! > Ladora was certainly a busy writer, and until her death she wrote many > letters to her son, Murray Sr, and to his family. The letters I have begin > in 1890 when she was 34 and continue on until a few years before her > death. She always begins with "my darling boy," or "my darling ones all," > and her personality is easily apparent in her style of writing. Carol and > Nell are also mentioned in some letters. > > > One fact I am sure that you will be interested in is that I read LaDora > met William Flemming in church and was initially attracted to him because > he had a nice singing voice. When I come across the place where I read > that I will make a copy for you. > > I am currently setting aside things, as I go through them, that you might > be interested in getting a copy of. I have a telegram to Murray Combs, > informing about LaDora's death, and a whole book of pictures of Murray and > possibly his first wife spending time at Riverside Farm Inn, with some > pictures of LaDora and one of her with her brother, Henry Carroll. > > Also, there is a note on one of the papers I have that says "W.H. Flemming > 1845 - 1924 I.O.O.F Cemetery." > I have not done any research on William Flemming or his line, but as I go > through these letters and such, I will keep sending you more information. > Do you have an email where we can continue correspondence? > > It is great to connect with you and I look forward to being able to shine > some light on your heritage! > > matthew > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kUtterJennings73 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.mcdonald/2875.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Elijah Burton Utter, from Barry County, was a brother to my gg-grandfather, David Jefferson Utter, from McDonald County. I found nothing in my files pertaining to Vaughns or McArters, except for E.B.'s birthday speech in 1893. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nilraps Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.mcdonald/1709.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I know this is old, but did you get an answer? I maybe able to help. Thanks, David Sparlin, Curator McDonald County Historical Museum Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

David. Hello! I think I promised that a long time ago, but time and family health issues threw a wrench in the motor. Maybe this winter I can get it all together. Especially if Matthew (Combs) and I corroborate our info. That would really be neat. Between the two of us, we should be able to develop a nice file with pictures and everything. I don't want anyone else to have to search for them for ten years like I have! Keep the faith.. Carolyn (Kalama, WA) ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 5:08 AM Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] Fleming, Combs,Bonebrake, DeWitt, Cleveland > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: nilraps > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.mcdonald/1616.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I was wondering if you would be willing to share copies of the letters and > pictures with the McDonald County Historical Museum. > > Thanks, > David Sparlin, Curator > McDonald County Historical Museum > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > To contact the MOMCDONA list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the MOMCDONA mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.113/2396 - Release Date: 09/26/09 05:51:00

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cellertson02 Surnames: Fleming, Kyle, DeWitt, Bonebrake, Cleveland, Whitaker Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.mcdonald/1616.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Matthew, hello! Unbelievable that we are still able to connect after so long, and wonderful at that! So many times emails are so obsolete that it never happens. How can I NOT still be interested. I'm not getting any younger, and those elusive Flemings of that line have consumed many hours of queries on boards; emails between other people who did not turn out to be the right line etc. Just so great of you to pick the ball up and carry it. >From all I have heard or read, Ladora was a wonderful woman, and my great grandfather, William Fleming, a lucky man to have her as his second wife (I descend from his first wife, Mary Emma Hamlin through their son Claude). Is it safe to assume you have a picture of William and Ladora and know how they met? I only have one picture of them together to my name (when they were senior citizens, it looks like), and I never saw or possessed a copy of it until a few years ago, when the last of William's granddaughters through his son Claude passed away (she lived halfway across the states from us, never had children of her own, and hoarded them until she was in the last of her life). How very sad that I could not have known more about them throughout my life, particularly while there were still people alive to ask questions of. I knew OF them, but nothing that satisfied my desire for knowledge of my family on that side, and Frances Fleming was the only grandparent I was fortunate e! n! ough to have for very long (I was only 13 when I held her hand as she took her dying breath..I loved her dearly). I am still chasing William's parental lines to no avail (Samuel and Thomas are family names). I know for a fact that William and Ladora both died at Carol's house in Collinsville, OK, and were taken back to Neosho for burial (been there..). Have the obits for them, courtesy of McDonald County G.S. and Retha Mitchell, but believe it or not, neither Oklahoma nor Missouri has been able to provide me with a death certificate for William Henry Fleming. I was able to get one for Ladora from the State of Oklahoma. My mother Claudia May Fleming (1911-1993), also spent many summers at Riverside, and was very close to her Aunts Carol (Poole nee Flemming/used double "m") and Nell (Wiley nee Fleming). She was particularly close to her Aunt Carol and Uncle Clyde (Poole). I was in high school when Carol died, and even after all of those years of not being able to see each other, my mother was heartbroken over her death. I distinctly remember many tears, as they were very close, and I still have the original letter from Great Aunt Carol to my mother, when she was widowed. My mother, Claudia, was the eldest of three daughters of Claude Moore Fleming and his second wife Frances Kyle. He was married previously, but she was not, and being 33 years of age at marriage, would probably have been considered a spinster at the time. Grandmother Fleming was wonderful, and I loved her, and I still have letters we exchanged when I was a child. My mother Claudia (1911-1993)was a great oral historian, and d! uring my childhood, I heard her speak of your Murray and Joe (ie, Combs), so I take it Murray Sr. was your great grandfather.. I also have a couple of letters on Riverside Inn letterhead. They evoke so much nostalgia in me! In 2002, my husband and I went on a questing trip to Oklahoma and Missouri, and we went to the Riverside site (now and RV park). I swear to you, my mother was looking over my shoulder the whole time! We weren't sure we had the right place.. UNTIl I saw the little cabin that had the hinged wall that could be lifted in hot weather to let the breeze through, and saw the paths to the "cabins in the tree tops", and the river where my grandmother Frances kept watch for water moccasins when the girls swam (one was hiding under a brush pile from a recent flood, my husband didn't tell me he saw it's tail sticking out!). I know it sounds corny, but this beautiful metallic blue and turquoise butterfly landed right beside me in the middle of the road, and stayed by me until we walked on.. just too coincidental for words after nearly a century. I would love to share information with you, as I have been doing research on my family for nearly ten years, and this bunch has really been a challenge, despite their obvious status in the area. There just doesn't seem to be anyone else out there that is researching them. I have become a "civil war bore" as a result of researching William and other family's civil war military histories. Really interesing. Please feel free to contact me. Would just love to hear from you. Carolyn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nilraps Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.mcdonald/1616.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Matthew, I will be glad to share. Bonebrake, DeWitt Cleveland are still very commom names in the county, so we should be able to find something. The best email for me is [email protected] Contract me and tell me more about what you are looking for. Thanks, David Sparlin, , Curator McDonald County Historical Museum Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MLCombs1978 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.mcdonald/1616.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi David, I would be very happy to share copies of anything I have; I would also be very happy if you could return the favor and share anything you might have related to my family in that place and time. I am currently sorting these letters, etc. out as I have just been given them from my grandmother this week. can you give me a contact email where we can continue this exchange off of the message boards here? I look forward to sharing these things, thank you. matthew Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nilraps Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.mcdonald/1616.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I was wondering if you would be willing to share copies of the letters and pictures with the McDonald County Historical Museum. Thanks, David Sparlin, Curator McDonald County Historical Museum Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Marilyn; I sincerely hope you are one of my husband's WILLIAMS' . To answer your question Thursey or any spelling is probably arthusia or authusia and artimesia. I am hoping your Thurssey married william Williams bca. 1803-1860? and once lived in Ray/Clay co. Missouri. If so we have a long discussion waiting. AND you are from my Titus line, major line LEE. As far as I know GREGER is not among the known kin. Bud in Mo. Marilyn Carnell-Williams [email protected] See our blog at http://luckydogwms.com .

I am curious if you have found the origin of the name, Thurssey. I have only encountered variations of that name in McDonald Co. Marilyn Carnell-Williams [email protected] See our blog at http://luckydogwms.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] GREGER family This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bmullenbach1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.m cdonald/1598.1.1.2.2.1.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Yes, I have a new e-mail address; It is [email protected] centurytel.net I must be a 3rd. cousin to Larry & Susan also, for my records show that George Washington Greger was a brother to Robert C., Emmanuel H., Abraham, Josephus, Poly A., Jerome W., Thurssey, John F., & Mary. I am still digging for the lineage from Scotland & willupdate you both if Ihave a find! Betty Lou Ann Gregor Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To contact the MOMCDONA list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the MOMCDONA mailing list, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bmullenbach1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.mcdonald/1598.1.1.2.2.1.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Yes, I have a new e-mail address; It is [email protected] centurytel.net I must be a 3rd. cousin to Larry & Susan also, for my records show that George Washington Greger was a brother to Robert C., Emmanuel H., Abraham, Josephus, Poly A., Jerome W., Thurssey, John F., & Mary. I am still digging for the lineage from Scotland & willupdate you both if Ihave a find! Betty Lou Ann Gregor Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MLCombs1978 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.mcdonald/1616.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: six years later is not too long I hope. William R Combs was Ledora Flemming's first husband (he died at age of 30!), my great-great grandfather. I have pictures and letters of Ledora to her children, some of which are even written on and mailed in Riverside Farm Inn letterhead. My grandfather (Murray Lee, Jr.) spent his summers there and some of the correspondence I have concerns the eventual sale of Riverside Farm Inn. If you are interested in any of this still, please feel free to contact me. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ThomasKer2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.mcdonald/2875.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm not related to this family. 1920 - Name: Marion F Vaughn Home in 1920: Mountain Grove, Wright, Missouri Age: 53 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Birthplace: Missouri Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Polly Father's Birth Place: Missouri Mother's Birth Place: Missouri Marital Status: Married Race: White Sex: Male Home owned: Own Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Marion F Vaughn 53, MO - farmer Polly Vaughn 52, MO Harley Vaughn 12, Mo 1910 - Name: Marian Vaughn [Marion Vaughn] Age in 1910: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Birthplace: Oklahoma Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: Tennessee Mother's Birth Place: Missouri Spouse's Name: Pollie Home in 1910: Mountain Grove, Wright, Missouri Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Marian Vaughn 43, NC = 1st marriage Pollie Vaughn 41, OK = 1st marriage - married 23 yr, 5 children Alice Vaughn 22, MO Lawrence Vaughn 19, MO Clarence Vaughn 15, MO Harley Vaughn 2, Mo Polly/Pollie could be a nick name for Elizabeth. OK was not a state or territory in 1880; therefore, if Mary was living in Ok she & her family would not have been counted. General Information - 1880 census Colorado was the only state admitted to the Union between 1870 and 1880, bringing the total to 38 states. Eight territories were enumerated: Arizona, Dakota, Idaho, Montana, New Mexico, Utah, Washington and Wyoming territories. Unorganized Alaska was enumerated, but the "Indian Territory" was not enumerated for non-Indians. Unlike any previous censuses, after microfilming, the original 1880 census schedules for several states were transferred from the National Archives to various state archives, state libraries, or universities libraries. Only the original 1880 schedules for Pennsylvania remain at the National Archives. Several originals were later transferred to the National Society Daughters of the American Revolution in Washington, D.C. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Are you aware that Hugo, Oklahoma is the winter home of the circus. There is a wonderful area in the Mt. Olivet Cemetery that is called Showmans Rest where the circus performers are buried. I do not know if this pertains to your question or if ther are any records available.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: babybear63123 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.mcdonald/2876.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Noel, MO, is a very small town. There is also a small resort area along Indian Creek, but not much else goes on. I have never run across any of these names in McDonald County. My mother grew up in that area, and she did not remember any of the names. I have an old address and phone number of the McDonald County Library from several years ago. The address is Rt. 2, Box 2035, Pineville, MO 64856. The phone number is 417-223-4489. They might be able to help you. Christie Setser Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Polly was usually the nickname for Mary, not Elizabeth. Marilyn Carnell-Williams [email protected] See our blog at http://luckydogwms.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 3:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MOMcDona] McArter& Vaughan Marriage 1893 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ThomasKer2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.m cdonald/2875.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm not related to this family. 1920 - Name: Marion F Vaughn Home in 1920: Mountain Grove, Wright, Missouri Age: 53 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Birthplace: Missouri Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Polly Father's Birth Place: Missouri Mother's Birth Place: Missouri Marital Status: Married Race: White Sex: Male Home owned: Own Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Marion F Vaughn 53, MO - farmer Polly Vaughn 52, MO Harley Vaughn 12, Mo 1910 - Name: Marian Vaughn [Marion Vaughn] Age in 1910: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Birthplace: Oklahoma Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: Tennessee Mother's Birth Place: Missouri Spouse's Name: Pollie Home in 1910: Mountain Grove, Wright, Missouri Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Marian Vaughn 43, NC = 1st marriage Pollie Vaughn 41, OK = 1st marriage - married 23 yr, 5 children Alice Vaughn 22, MO Lawrence Vaughn 19, MO Clarence Vaughn 15, MO Harley Vaughn 2, Mo Polly/Pollie could be a nick name for Elizabeth. OK was not a state or territory in 1880; therefore, if Mary was living in Ok she & her family would not have been counted. General Information - 1880 census Colorado was the only state admitted to the Union between 1870 and 1880, bringing the total to 38 states. Eight territories were enumerated: Arizona, Dakota, Idaho, Montana, New Mexico, Utah, Washington and Wyoming territories. Unorganized Alaska was enumerated, but the "Indian Territory" was not enumerated for non-Indians. Unlike any previous censuses, after microfilming, the original 1880 census schedules for several states were transferred from the National Archives to various state archives, state libraries, or universities libraries. Only the original 1880 schedules for Pennsylvania remain at the National Archives. Several originals were later transferred to the National Society Daughters of the American Revolution in Washington, D.C. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To contact the MOMCDONA list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the MOMCDONA mailing list, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message