Good morning Steve: I'm descended from Neal McKeever and Bridget Kerr through their daughter Mary Ann and John Grant (my great grandparents). My grandmother was their daughter Rosalia (I'm assuming the Gaelic version of Rose Ann named for her grandmother Rose Ann (Owens) Grant, wife of W. S. Grant.). Her sister, my great aunt, was Clem Schulte;s mother. The only information I have thus far about the Irish townships is that Rose Ann Owen's parents were Michael and Ann Owens and they immigrated from Killesher Parish in County Fermanagh, Ireland. They are the ones who donated the land where Owens Cemetary is located. I think these folks were somewhat familiar with one another from Ireland because all these counties seem to lay relatively close to one another. As for the Kerrs being Catholic although Scottish we used to have a parish priest in St. Louis named Father Lietram who was from Scotland. Although not the most popular religion in Scotland, it did exist there despite persecutions from both the Church of England and the Presbyterians. I guess that made them the types of rebels the Irish could really relate to and chances are the English were happy to have them out of Scotland and in Ireland where they could have all their rebels in one spot and therefore easier to watch over. An interesting sidenote to this conversation. I went to the University of Missouri at Columbia in the late seventies and early eighties and had a friend named Dan Briggs. One night we went out for a couple of beers and he made the remark that he wished he had a book his uncle owned about the history of Maries County. I told him my dad's family was from Maries County and his mother's name was Grant but she was also descended from McKeevers. Turns out that we were distantly related. Small world after all. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: <BeckyPiper1@worldnet.att.net> To: <MOMARIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [MOMARIES] Re: Briggs, McKeever, Duncan > Jim, > I have truely heard both terms used, by up to seven different family > members version.I could not tell the difference between the groups. > How are you related? > Bridget,Hugh,William,Patrick, Mary Ann,and James KERR were siblings who came > over from the Emerald Isl. > between 1845-1870s > I come from Patrick Kerr who married Margaret Lucretia Benton (Also said to > have been a rape child-French-Indian). Check page 308 of Maries county > book-Hair COAL BLACK til she died at 70. (Child of Nancy Skaggs and Mathew > Benton). > As you know Bridget and Neil married in St. Louis in 1846. William came over > with wife Bridget in the 1860s owned land in St.Louis and MAries > Counties;Buried in Visitation with Neil & Bridget McKeever. > Hugh & Rose came over with a couple of kids in the 1870s ,Not much info on > their whereabouts after death, have some childrens' info. > Mary Ann married James McKown, their living heirs are in Gravios Mill Mo. > Napier family. > I have plenty on the family here;Courious though; your Bridget Kerr McKeever > claimed Antrim, Hugh claimed Northern Ireland(rejected the Queen on > immigration papers) William claimed Antrim, Mary Ann Antrim, but Patrick > claimed Limerick, JAmes Wales. > The proper spelling of the name is KERR, which is techically Scot; and they > were Catholic (In Northern Ireland???) I am pursuing Kelt history during > this time to understand such scattering of the family.. > Any help you can lend to me about your grandma Bridget would sure help me > focus on our Ireland townships? > Steven Piper > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Hubbard" <hubbardjim@hotmail.com> > To: <MOMARIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 2:08 AM > Subject: Re: [MOMARIES] Re: Briggs, McKeever, Duncan > > > > Steve: > > > > I too am descended from the Kerrs and McKeevers. I was intrigued by your > > reference to "Carpet Baggers" during the Civil War. Did they possibly > mean > > bushwhackers or Jayhawkers? I know that the bushwhackers were somewhat > > active in the Maries County area and if they were active and could be > > tracked down that usually meant the Jayhawkers would be active there as > > well. Most of my research points to a relatively clean war throughout > > Missouri, i.e., although there was much in the way of murder and theft > women > > were generally left alone. The explanation I have been given for this is > > that even if the combatants were on different sides they knew each other > > fairly well and molesting one's loved ones invited repercussions from the > > other side. That is not to say it did not occur. During Price's Raid > > (1964-65) there are documented cases of women in Franklin County being > > accosted if not actually raped. The term Carpet Bagger came into vogue > > after the Civil War and usually referred to a Northerner sympathizer who > > loaded everything they owned into a cloth suitcase and used political > > connections to move into conquered Confederate territory for personal, > > political or economic gain. The excesses of carpet baggers was one of the > > prime causes for the rise of the Ku Klux Klan in the southern states. > > > > Jim Hubbard > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <BeckyPiper1@worldnet.att.net> > > To: <MOMARIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 8:31 PM > > Subject: Re: [MOMARIES] Re: Briggs, McKeever, Duncan > > > > > > > Cousin, > > > I know there is no Indian blood in Bridget Kerr,nor Neil McKeever > > > (unless they swam to Ireland). > > > Now, froom my readings, the french and Indians did intermingle with our > > folk > > > in Maries. The Kerrs and McKeevers were pure Ireland. They did marry and > > > mingle with those of the native natur > > > Visitation Church records show that my Lucretia Benton Kerr was (french > > > /Indian), and Mary Boudroux (french Indian) was a sponser for the > > McKeevers > > > and Kerrs baptimals. > > > Grandma Kerr was raped several times during the civil war times, by > > "Carpet > > > Baggers", don't know what/they were. So , any off spring could have been > > > mixed > > > Steven Piper > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <nsettles@csj.net> > > > To: <MOMARIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 5:54 PM > > > Subject: [MOMARIES] Re: Briggs, McKeever, Duncan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > > > > > Classification: Query > > > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VKB.2ACE/2.221.1 > > > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > > > My mother told me that there was Indiana blood but I do not know in > what > > > line? Do you? > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MOMARIES Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > > > Source for Family History Online. 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