MOMARIES Friends: I got the message below from the NELSON-L list.--Melinda ----------------------------------------- Hi, everybody: For what it is worth, I received the following message (very quickly, by the way) as a reply to a query I placed with the United States Bureau of the Census. Under U.S. law, the Federal decennial censuses are released 72 years after they are taken. ======================== Hello, The 1930 Federal census records will be released to the custody of the National Archives on April 1, 2002, for microfilming. You may want to contact the National Archives about their anticipated availability date of these records to the public. Regards, Carolyn History Staff ======================== After I got this message, I called the Chicago Regional Branch of the National Archives as suggested. I expected from the wording, "released ... for microfilming" that the filming would begin in April 2002, take a certain amount of time, then the rolls would have to be shipped out, etc. Instead, they told me today, 16 July 2001, that the Monday, 1 April 2002 date is the actual date of the release of the census film for public viewing. The archivist in Chicago informed me that the microfilm is *currently* in their possession, and they are doing quality control checking on each roll at this time. I would suggest that other National Archives sites would have the same schedule, this being the government and all, but my direct information is limited to the Chicago branch. Take whatever action you deem appropriate. No breaking and entering, though, and don't blame *me* when you tell your family and friends this far in advance what you'll be doing early next April <grin>. Permission is granted to redistribute this message. Darrell A. Martin a native Vermonter currently in exile in Addison, Illinois darrellm@sprynet.com

----- Original Message ----- From: <JDSshipbld@cs.com> To: <MOMARIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [MOMARIES] Obit of Dora B. Helton > Can anyone tell me if Dora B Helton was any relation to Nancy Helton that > married Jerry M Ponder???? See below > > Jim Skaggs Jim, Are we are talking about the Dora B. Helton, nee Riddle, whose obit was just posted to this list? If so, from the info I have, Nancy who m/ Ponder, was a first cousin to Thomas Chanley (Chan) Helton who married Dora B. Riddle. Judy

Does anyone on this list have a connection to Susan Wright that married James Manon Skaggs in Miller Co., MO abt 1847 see below I have been unable to locate her parents or siblings. It is one of my dead ends. Susan is my gg gm and I would REALLY like to find more about her family. Jim Skaggs Descendants of Susan Wright 1 Susan Wright Born: Abt. 1821 in Illinois or MO Died: Bef. 1870 .. +James Manon Skaggs, Sr. Born: March 01, 1800 in Hardin Co., KY Married: Abt. 1847 in Miller Co., MO Died: April 13, 1873 in Cooke Co., TX Burial Place: TX, Cooke Co., Woodbine (maybe per Maxine) . 2 Elizabeth Skaggs Born: May 1848 in Miller Co., MO Died: Unknown ..... +Overton E. Jones Born: Unknown Married: March 18, 1869 in Grayson Co., TX Died: Unknown . 2 Ellen "Nellie" Skaggs Born: January 1850 in Miller Co., MO Died: Unknown ..... +Charles Sloan Born: 1818 in Ireland Married: May 05, 1873 in Cooke Co., TX Died: Unknown . 2 Mark Fletcher Edward Skaggs Born: April 22, 1856 in Miller Co., Missouri Died: December 23, 1922 in Tuttle, Grady Co., OK Burial Place: December 24, 1922 OK, Grady Co., Tuttle, Fairview Cem, Sec A (pic) ..... +Emma Lee Mathews Born: January 12, 1863 in Missouri Married: October 31, 1878 in Cooke Co., TX Died: November 05, 1944 in Tuttle, Grady CO., OK Burial Place: OK, Grady Co., Tuttle, Fairview Cem, Sec A (pic) . 2 Margaret Skaggs Born: October 11, 1858 in Cooke Co., TX Died: November 23, 1952 in Henrietta, Clay Co., TX Burial Place: TX, Clay Co., Joy, Joy Cem ..... +Daniel Boone Faulkner Born: June 05, 1850 in Whitley Co., KY Married: January 19, 1877 in Cooke Co., TX Died: January 01, 1890 Burial Place: TX, Cooke Co., SE of Gainesville, Turner Cem . *2nd Husband of Margaret Skaggs: ..... +Daniel Green Kilcrease Born: February 15, 1845 in Hazelhurst, Hines Co., MS Married: 1892 in Cooke Co., TX Died: May 18, 1931 in Clay Co., TX Burial Place: TX, Clay Co., Joy, Joy Cem . 2 Baby Girl Skaggs Born: October 12, 1858 in Cooke Co., Texas Died: October 12, 1858 in Cooke Co., Texas . 2 Martha Skaggs Born: October 12, 1858 in Cooke Co., TX Died: 1903 in OK Burial Place: OK, Johnston Co., Mannsville, Old Mannsville Cem ..... +Edward Griffen Reeves Born: December 21, 1852 in AR Married: July 04, 1878 in Gainsville, Cooke Co., TX Died: July 04, 1896 in Near Mannsville, Indian Terr. OK Burial Place: OK, Johnston Co., Mannsville Old Mannsville Cem . *2nd Husband of Martha Skaggs: ..... +Irvin West Born: May 06, 1851 in Murphesburg, TN Married: January 14, 1898 in Raysville, Indian Terr. Burial Place: OK, Johnston Co., Mannsville, Mannsville Cem . 2 Matilda "Tilda" Skaggs Born: April 15, 1863 in Gainsville, Cooke Co., TX Died: September 16, 1942 in Ft.. Worth, Tarrant Co., TX Burial Place: TX, Tarrant Co., Ft. Worth, East Oakwood Cem ..... +Frank Armin Hertig Born: November 28, 1858 in Mueklausen, Germany Married: November 02, 1884 in Ft. Worth, Tarrant Co., TX Died: February 07, 1894 in Ft. Worth, Tarrant Co., TX Burial Place: TX, Tarrant Co., Ft Worth, Oakwood Cem

Can anyone tell me if Dora B Helton was any relation to Nancy Helton that married Jerry M Ponder???? See below Jim Skaggs Descendants of Phillip Raphael Ponder 1 Phillip Raphael Ponder Born: 1849 Died: 1937 .. +Sarah Hazeltiine Skaggs Born: January 30, 1856 in Knox Co, TN Married: September 05, 1871 Died: February 18, 1887 in Iberia, Miller Co., MO . 2 Florence Ponder Born: 1872 in near Iberia, MO Died: August 01, 1916 Burial Place: MO, Miller Co., , Livingston Cem ..... +James H. Shackleford Born: November 19, 1869 in Miller Co., MO Married: March 12, 1893 in By John A. Aust, Minister of the gospel Died: February 29, 1932 Burial Place: MO, Miller Co., , Livingston Cem . 2 Freeman Ponder Born: 1875 Died: 1959 ..... +Florence May Schbert . 2 Jerry M. Ponder Born: 1876 Died: 1929 ..... +Nancy Helton . 2 William Oscar Ponder Born: 1877 Died: 1879 . 2 George Rayford Ponder Born: Unknown ..... +Minnie Henson . 2 Ellen Ponder Born: 1884 Died: 1936 ..... +Walter Berry *2nd Wife of Phillip Raphael Ponder: .. +Lillie Kellison Married: Aft. 1871 . 2 Otto Ponder Born: 1890 Died: 1962 ..... +Molly M. Ferguson . 2 Bertha Ponder Born: 1893 ..... +James Earp . 2 Lewis Thurman Ponder Born: 1896 ..... +Ruth Hyde . 2 Clara Ponder Born: 1898 Died: 1977 ..... +Frank Cross . 2 Emma Mae Ponder Born: 1902 ..... +Elbert Chesley Martin . 2 Polly Ponder Born: 1905 ..... +Austin Barnett

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C10EC2.99AED260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C10EC2.99AED260 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="More on the Chan Helton .eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="More on the Chan Helton .eml" From: "carols" <carols@pldi.net> To: <MO-MARIES-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: More on the Chan Helton Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 11:59:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 >From Amarillo Daily News - October 13, 1971 PETITE PIONEER FROM MISSOURI NOTCHES 94TH BIRTHDAY FRIDAY... Dora B. Helton was happily settled on her husband's Missouri River farm and expecting her seventh child when her brother-in-law's persistent letters +ACI-got us stirred up about moving to Texas.+ACI- This was 60 years ago. Persuaded that the Texas Panhandle held new opportunities Chan and Dora Helton packed up their belongings and children and took the train to Canadian, Texas. For there they rode by wagon to their new farm in the Zyback Community where Mrs. Helton had her seventh child two weeks later. The story of their prosperous life there is intertwined with development of the community and its eventual split into the two of Allison and Briscoe. The petite pioneer who was born Oct 15, 1877 in Dixon Mo will celebrate her 94th birthday on Friday. Orphaned at 12, the former Dora Riddle went to live on her Uncle George Cain's farm at Dixon, where she later met Thomas Chanley Helton, one of her uncle's hired hands. When they began dating, they went +ACI-to church, to town and to dances - whatever there was doing that was decent to go to+ACI-. She was 18 and he was 21 when they were married in November 1895 at her uncle's home. A year later Mr. Helton cut down timber and fashioned the couple's first home of their own. Mrs. Helton recalled their early furnishings as +ACI-two bedsteads, one dresser, a stand table, a big cookstove and a dish tray. We had an extension (dining) table, and it was a good one, too.+ACI- The couple's farm was near the Gasconade River and Mrs. Helton carried water from a spring to do the washing. When the Helton's arrived May 1, 1911, in Zyback, located 18 miles northeast of Wheeler, the community had about 150 persons. Mr. Helton was raised Hogs, cattle, corn and maize conducted most of his business in Miami and Canadian, including transporting his hogs by wagon the 30 miles to Canadian, Tx. Mr. Helton traded for a half section of land across the road from his brother C.W., and eventually acquired about 6,000 acres spread over Wheeler, Helphill, Ochiltree and Hansford counties and land west of Colorado Springs, Colorado. Mr. Helton's business interest included rent houses and a blacksmith shop. They gave an acre of land to the Zyback school and were members of the Methodist Church. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C10EC2.99AED260--

Will be glad to look up any information on the Chan and Dora Riddle Helton family.

I have some Henderson Vandergriffs in my family tree. Some from Kentucky. I need more info from you.

Services were held Monday, June 19, 1972, at 3:00 in the First Baptist Church of Wheeler for Mrs. Dora Bell Helton, 94, who passed away June 16 in Parkview Hospital on 10:10 p.m. after a lengthy illness. Rev Ross Dunn of Wheeler officiated at the services. Mrs. Helton was born October 15, 1877 in Dixon, Missouri to Mr. and Mrs. Isaac Riddle. In November, 1895, she was married to Thomas Chanley Helton in Dixon, Missouri. In May 1911 she and her husband arrived in Zyback, located 18 miles northeast of Wheeler. They were very active in this community's life. After Mr. Helton's retirement in 1947, the couple moved to Wheeler. He died in 1957. All of their sons farm land that their parents acquired during the first half of the century. Mrs. Helton was a member of the First Methodist Church of Wheeler. Survivors include four daughters, Mrs. Oma Dyer, Wheeler, Mrs. Pearl Young, Canadian, Mrs. Sallie Jo Anderson, Amarillo and Miss Lula Helton of Amarillo, four sons Charlie Helton, Perryton, Oral of Briscoe, Perry, Colorado Springs, Colo and Jim of Briscoe, 1 brother Sam Riddle of Dixon, Missouri, 25 grand children and 36 great grand children. She was preceded in death by her husband in 1957 and 2 daughters. Serving as pall bearers were her grandsons: J.D. (Andy) Anderson, Billy Helton, Pepsey Helton, Jim Helton, Cloyd Helton, Perry Helton, Jr., and Francis Chan Helton. Interment was in the Wheeler Cemetery under the direction of Wright Funeral Home of Wheeler.

submitted by Mr & Mrs George Bethurem abstracted from the Laclede Co MO History Book Joe Lambeth b 1871 d 1916 m Etta Bethurem b 1872 d 1940 d/o Grandville Bethurem and Angelina ? Children: Albert Chloe Van Dwight ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

abstracted from the Laclede Co MO history book Josiah Brooks Lambeth s/o Joseph Lambeth and Levina Flack b 9 Jun 1824 d m1 1843 Sarah Friar m2 Susanah Holman Friar Children w/1: William Franklin Madison Columbus Susan Levina Nancy Jane Mary Orlena Irvin Washington Shirley Scott <>< shirleyscott@juno.com The Scott Family: http://www.geocities.com/shirleyascott My Family Tree: http://www.angelfire.com/mo/winkeler/index.html ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

info submitted by Myrl Hayes Bethruem abstracted from the History of Laclede Co MO Andrew Flack Lambeth s/o Joseph Lambeth and Levina Flack b 9 Apr 1921 Guildford Co NC d Feb 1877 Laclede Co MO Holman Cemetery m 1853 Sarah Ann Bird b d Dec 1900 Laclede Co MO Holman Cemetery Children: Elizabeth Belmon Julius Thomas James Baxter Joseph Harvey Alice Victoria Robert Fletcher Shirley Scott <>< shirleyscott@juno.com The Scott Family: http://www.geocities.com/shirleyascott My Family Tree: http://www.angelfire.com/mo/winkeler/index.html ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Stoutland Cemetery: Otto 1911-1980 Irvin 1892-1973 Maggie 1871-1956 Oakland Cemetery: Lucy A 1859-1940 and Lewis 1856-1940 Lewis O 1913-1941 Vida E 1887-1956 and James L 1879-1963 Barnett Cemetery: Verna 1905-1944 Shirley Scott <>< shirleyscott@juno.com The Scott Family: http://www.geocities.com/shirleyascott My Family Tree: http://www.angelfire.com/mo/winkeler/index.html ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

While getting some of my own research done - a rarity these days - I found this information on Benjamin Franklin Crismon in a Laclede County History book. The information was submitted by LeVerne Matthews Edwards. They are not in my lines, but here's an abstract of the info anyway. Always thinking of you all <smile>. Benjamin Franklin Crismon s/o Gilbert Crismon and Myra Eads b 27 Dec 1866 Maries Co MO d 5 Apr 1959 m1 ? died with infant in childbirth m2 25 Jan 1890 Maries Co MO Alice Hutton d/o Henry Hutton and Matilda Wiseman Rowden Notes: moved to Pulaski Co, then to Laclede Co, then to Texas Co Children w/2: Arthur m Effie Lingo Toto m Lavada Frances Abe m Vernona Brown Addie m Charley Elmore Pearly m Alvin Cockrum Gladys m Reuben Matthws Bernice m Leonard Cook m3 Tina Woods Robinson Shirley Scott <>< shirleyscott@juno.com The Scott Family: http://www.geocities.com/shirleyascott My Family Tree: http://www.angelfire.com/mo/winkeler/index.html ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Hi List, I am searching for any information on my Vandegrifft/Vandgrifft family who lived around Belle & Bland from about the mid to late 1940's until about 1990. Thomas (Fred) Vandgrifft b. 5/31/1897 DeValls Bluff, Ar d. 2/14/1956 St. Louis, Mo buried at Liberty Cemetery, Belle Married Velma Lee Woods 4/16/1931 Dewey, Ok b. 2/20/1912 Jay, Ok d. 4/15/1996 Salem, Mo She was a member of the Pentcostal Church in Belle or Bland. She is the only one I know anything about. Laura Ann Vandegrifft b. 6/7/1869 Mo. d. 2/28/1952 at the home of son FRED, Belle buried at Liberty Cemetery, Belle She was a member of the Baptist Church I have recieved death certificates, obit notices from the Belle Banner, & funeral records from Sassmann's in Belle on Thomas Fred & Laura. I'm a little disappointed that there wasn't much information to work with. What is a Fireclay Prospector? How do I go about contacting the Liberty Cemetery for copies of their records? Thank you for any information. Alice

Shirley, How true!!! Without the queries we don't get the new information. I've learned a lot about the Copelands the last few weeks from these queries and I was at a big Copeland-Burns reunion over at Union Mo. a couple of weeks ago. They are all originally from Maries County. DeVere

Thanks DeVere for reminding people about the archives. However, it is still acceptable and in fact encouraged that we post our queries to the list periodically. Otherwise this list is just "dead air." <smile> So Maries County researchers - POST those queries!!!!! Your ListAdministrator, Shirley Scott <>< shirleyscott@juno.com The Scott Family: http://www.geocities.com/shirleyascott My Family Tree: http://www.angelfire.com/mo/winkeler/index.html On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:19:49 -0700 "DeVere Whitaker" <devere@onemain.com> writes: > > > LIST: > > > > I see these inquiries coming in for various families. In the > message below ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

> LIST: > > I see these inquiries coming in for various families. In the message below I > told Cliff how to get information that has come in to List over the years > from members etc. Just follow the directions I gave Cliff for any "Name", > Eads Copeland etc. Type in the name you want to know about. A list of > message concerning that name will come on the screen. There are five years > of them. > There has been a ton of Copeland information come through the last few >>weeks. > > DeVere > > > Cliff, > > > > Follow these directions. > > > > 1. click on this URL: http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/MO/Maries/ > > > > 2. Scroll down to: > > ISearch Engine for List Archives > > 3. Use your curor to put the dot in 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000 etc. for the >> year. > > 4. Type in the name Copeland "any name", where they are > > asking for your query. > > > > Every message about Copeland that came in will appear. Pick one that > > says Copeland and then click on "message content" > > > > My new email is devere@onemail.com > > > > DeVere > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: DeVere Whitaker <devere@onemain.com> To: <MOMARIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 10:29 AM Subject: Helton > For Copeland and other Miller & Maries County Families go to the following > URL. You must be on line. > > DeVere & Vernon's Family Page: > http://www.stormloader.com/kvernon/fam/famind.htm > Click on the Copeland Name > > DeVere >

Kathy......I have one Copeland in my Ellis line. Martha Copeland was b. in MO (probably Maries County or surrounding area) in Oct. 1853. She married Thomas G. Ellis (b. TN Aug 1851) and am pretty sure they lived in Maries Co. Unfortunately, I have nothing else on her, but thought this might help somehow. Diane Ryder -----Original Message----- From: kathy2468@hotmail.com <kathy2468@hotmail.com> To: MOMARIES-L@rootsweb.com <MOMARIES-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, July 16, 2001 1:58 AM Subject: [MOMARIES] Solomon Copeland (son of Ranson) > >I am researching Solomon Copeland who married Mary J. Butts 1861 in Dent Co, MO. They had 4 children that I know of: William Grant b. 1863, John, Dora, and Della. William is my grandfather. Family history has it that Solomon died when William was still young and that Mary remarried. I have no proof of this. By 1880 William was living in Texas and the other children were either in TX or OK. > >If anyone has info on this family, please respond. > > >==== MOMARIES Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate >your heritage! >http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > >

I am researching Solomon Copeland who married Mary J. Butts 1861 in Dent Co, MO. They had 4 children that I know of: William Grant b. 1863, John, Dora, and Della. William is my grandfather. Family history has it that Solomon died when William was still young and that Mary remarried. I have no proof of this. By 1880 William was living in Texas and the other children were either in TX or OK. If anyone has info on this family, please respond.