Pat, Yes, that is my 3-greats aunt. Don McNeill sent me a photograph of her tombstone awhile back. The LCHS list transcribes her name as Rachael, but Curry's lists Rachel which is correct. LCHS lists 69 tombstones, on one of which neither the names nor dates are legible. Curry lists 77 stones. Ross >>> [email protected] 05/13/03 01:03PM >>> Ross, Let me get this transcribed so I can read it with some intelligence. There is Rachel W. Moore b.Jan 14, 1817 d March 12, 1893 on the list I have and there are seventy four headstones listed. How many are on the other lists? It says that there are a lot of graves marked with sand stones with no names. So this may be recent. I don't know where it came from or who typed it. I will put it out for anyone's use as soon as I get it figured out. If this is from a McNatt cousin that I know was in the area searching for graves in the 1980s then he might not have been able to read what was there in past inventories. Pat, Ross Cameron wrote: >Pat, > >I presume that what you have is a unpublished transcription. There are at least two published transcriptions. > >Lawrence County, Missouri, Tombstone Inscriptions, Vol. 5, Buck Prairie Township, Fairview Cemetery (also known as Grammer), pp. 113-114, published by the Lawrence County Historical Society, 1987. It was surveyed by Mrs. Loyd B. Ellis and Hazel Pannell and presented to the Rachel Donelson Chapter of the NSDAR, Springfield, Mo. > >Lawrence County, Missouri, Tombstone Inscriptions, Vol. 1, Grammer Cemetery, pp. 60-62, published by Mary M. Curry, 1970. > >There are some significant differences between these two transcriptions. Mrs. Curry's transcription has more stones, including: >a second stone for Nancy Cline without the name Witherspoon; >William and Mariah Cox; >Peterson, Martha, (Isabell?), Ervin? J.?, J. L., and infant Grammer; >Nancy C. (1870-1872) and John C. McNatt; and >George N. McNeill. > >LCHS lists the following stone not in Curry: >Judy R. McNatt (1810-1859) > >LCHS lists Martin V. McNatt and Curry lists Martin V. Wheat with the same date of death and LCHS lists age at death which Curry does not. > >LCHS lists: >Hubbard, Mary E., dau. of Wm. Hubbard, born 12 Nov 1852, no death dates >Curry lists: >Hubbard, no name-stone broken & part gone, 12 Nov 1852 - 12 Jan 1874 >By combining the two, the full name and dates of birth and death are known. > >There are other differences such as: >LCHS lists Sarah Lemaster and Curry lists Sarah I. Brashers, wife of W. W., but both have the same dates of birth and death. Is this Sarah I. McNatt who married William W. Brashears in Nov. 1865? It appears as if "I. Brashers" was read as "Lemaster". > >LCHS lists Charles R. and Nancy Galloway; Curry lists Calloway, though in a marriage note she lists Galoway. > >There are other differences in spellings of names, dates, and other information. > >Pat, if your transcription is not one of the above, then it would be valuable to see if there are additional differences or which of the above differences the transcription that you have matches. > >Mrs. Curry noted that at time the cemetery was overgrown and Peterson and Martha Grammer's stones were under some bushes, both down and partially covered with soil. It appears as if other stones were down, missing, etc., when Mrs. Loyd and Pannell surveyed it. It has since been cleaned, etc., but I don't know if a new reading has been done. > >My great, great, great aunt, Rachel W. (Patton) Moore, first wife of James Marion Moore, is buried here. > >I have four transcriptions of Lower South Bend Cemetery, also known as Patton, Hoshaw, Shelton, Mahan, Hopewell, etc. and there are differences between all four. > >Some stones may have been standing, down, buried, broken, or reset between transcriptions. Different people read the stones differently. And there are often typographical errors by the time it gets published. So it doesn't hurt to have more than one transcription. AND YOU SHOULD TRANSCRIBE IT YOURSELF whenever possible, as well as photograph and/or video it. > >Ross Cameron > > > >>>>[email protected] 05/12/03 04:43PM >>> >>>> >>>> >I was looking through my McNatt stuff today and realized that the >cemetery that I have always called the Old McNatt Cemetery (near >Marionville, Mo) is also called the Fairview Cemetery or sometimes >called Grammar Graveyard. It is 1 1/2 miles N.W. of Marionville, Mo. in >Lawrence CO. out in the middle of a field on Jim Carr's property. I >have the list of the tomb stones from there and had intended to >transcribe it. It is a very badly many times copied typed list that is >difficult to read. If anyone is interested it might get me more >interested in trying to type it up. :-) I am worried that the tornado >may have damaged it and will check when I visit in a couple of weeks. >Pat, > > > > > >==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== >Whoops! Deleted a message you needed? 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Ross, I suspect that this could be a combination of both lists with some additional information from whoever put it together. Mom doesn't know who did it and says it was with some of her sister's things (Carol A.McNatt d. 1999). Would it be possible to get a copy of both lists so I can see if I have all of the dates correct? Or do I have to go see for myself, hope the cemetery is still there. Some of this is really difficult and one date just got copied out. Pat, Ross Cameron wrote: >Pat, > >Yes, that is my 3-greats aunt. Don McNeill sent me a photograph of her tombstone awhile back. The LCHS list transcribes her name as Rachael, but Curry's lists Rachel which is correct. > >LCHS lists 69 tombstones, on one of which neither the names nor dates are legible. > >Curry lists 77 stones. > >Ross > > > >>>>[email protected] 05/13/03 01:03PM >>> >>>> >>>> >Ross, >Let me get this transcribed so I can read it with some intelligence. > There is Rachel W. Moore b.Jan 14, 1817 d March 12, 1893 on the list I >have and there are seventy four headstones listed. How many are on the >other lists? It says that there are a lot of graves marked with sand >stones with no names. So this may be recent. I don't know where it came >from or who typed it. I will put it out for anyone's use as soon as I >get it figured out. If this is from a McNatt cousin that I know was in >the area searching for graves in the 1980s then he might not have been >able to read what was there in past inventories. >Pat, > >Ross Cameron wrote: > > > >>Pat, >> >>I presume that what you have is a unpublished transcription. There are at least two published transcriptions. >> >>Lawrence County, Missouri, Tombstone Inscriptions, Vol. 5, Buck Prairie Township, Fairview Cemetery (also known as Grammer), pp. 113-114, published by the Lawrence County Historical Society, 1987. It was surveyed by Mrs. Loyd B. Ellis and Hazel Pannell and presented to the Rachel Donelson Chapter of the NSDAR, Springfield, Mo. >> >>Lawrence County, Missouri, Tombstone Inscriptions, Vol. 1, Grammer Cemetery, pp. 60-62, published by Mary M. Curry, 1970. >> >>There are some significant differences between these two transcriptions. Mrs. Curry's transcription has more stones, including: >>a second stone for Nancy Cline without the name Witherspoon; >>William and Mariah Cox; >>Peterson, Martha, (Isabell?), Ervin? J.?, J. L., and infant Grammer; >>Nancy C. (1870-1872) and John C. McNatt; and >>George N. McNeill. >> >>LCHS lists the following stone not in Curry: >>Judy R. McNatt (1810-1859) >> >>LCHS lists Martin V. McNatt and Curry lists Martin V. Wheat with the same date of death and LCHS lists age at death which Curry does not. >> >>LCHS lists: >>Hubbard, Mary E., dau. of Wm. Hubbard, born 12 Nov 1852, no death dates >>Curry lists: >>Hubbard, no name-stone broken & part gone, 12 Nov 1852 - 12 Jan 1874 >>By combining the two, the full name and dates of birth and death are known. >> >>There are other differences such as: >>LCHS lists Sarah Lemaster and Curry lists Sarah I. Brashers, wife of W. W., but both have the same dates of birth and death. Is this Sarah I. McNatt who married William W. Brashears in Nov. 1865? It appears as if "I. Brashers" was read as "Lemaster". >> >>LCHS lists Charles R. and Nancy Galloway; Curry lists Calloway, though in a marriage note she lists Galoway. >> >>There are other differences in spellings of names, dates, and other information. >> >>Pat, if your transcription is not one of the above, then it would be valuable to see if there are additional differences or which of the above differences the transcription that you have matches. >> >>Mrs. Curry noted that at time the cemetery was overgrown and Peterson and Martha Grammer's stones were under some bushes, both down and partially covered with soil. It appears as if other stones were down, missing, etc., when Mrs. Loyd and Pannell surveyed it. It has since been cleaned, etc., but I don't know if a new reading has been done. >> >>My great, great, great aunt, Rachel W. (Patton) Moore, first wife of James Marion Moore, is buried here. >> >>I have four transcriptions of Lower South Bend Cemetery, also known as Patton, Hoshaw, Shelton, Mahan, Hopewell, etc. and there are differences between all four. >> >>Some stones may have been standing, down, buried, broken, or reset between transcriptions. Different people read the stones differently. And there are often typographical errors by the time it gets published. So it doesn't hurt to have more than one transcription. AND YOU SHOULD TRANSCRIBE IT YOURSELF whenever possible, as well as photograph and/or video it. >> >>Ross Cameron >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>[email protected] 05/12/03 04:43PM >>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>I was looking through my McNatt stuff today and realized that the >>cemetery that I have always called the Old McNatt Cemetery (near >>Marionville, Mo) is also called the Fairview Cemetery or sometimes >>called Grammar Graveyard. It is 1 1/2 miles N.W. of Marionville, Mo. in >>Lawrence CO. out in the middle of a field on Jim Carr's property. I >>have the list of the tomb stones from there and had intended to >>transcribe it. It is a very badly many times copied typed list that is >>difficult to read. If anyone is interested it might get me more >>interested in trying to type it up. :-) I am worried that the tornado >>may have damaged it and will check when I visit in a couple of weeks. >>Pat, >> >> >> >> >> >>==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== >>Whoops! Deleted a message you needed? 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