Judy, Since I am half Irish I find this of very serious interest. Having an Irish sense of humor I find it very serious. :-D Our family is happy with our leprechauns and their little tricks. LOFL, that was great...really great. But, seriously, how much information did you find on us scourges? I would be interested in learning more about the social attitudes, migrations and settlements of the Irish from 1800 to the mid 1900s. Pat Miller

Hi Judy, Pat and all, I, too, am very, very interested in any information regarding the 'social history' and attitudes in this country, during the 1700s and 1800s. All comments and recommended reading would be welcome. Let's not forget...the Scots Irish/Ulster Scots [Protestants], who were so important in the westward migration and settling of this country from the late 1700s forward, were called "Irish". They suffered the same discrimination as the Catholic Irish who immigrated in mass prior to and during the famine years. They were despised, but were known for their fighting abilities that they were used as the 'buffer' between the colonists and the Indians. The more I read, the more it really amazes me how much the Scots Irish were despised, yet so many were generals, captains, majors, colonels, lt. colonels in the Rev. War and Civil war. Robert E. Lee claimed that..." the best soldiers were the Scots who came by the way of Ireland".] Seven 7 signed the Declaration of Independence, and numerous were statesmen. A large number men with Scots Irish blood were elected to offices of governors and congressmen, 12 U.S. Presidents and some Vice Presidents. Men like Crockett and George Rogers Clark helped to open up this country to westward migration. Other famous people with Scots Irish blood were Horace Greeley, Robert Fulton, Thomas A Edison, and Sam Houston. How were these individuals treated during their lifetimes? Did they experience the same discrimination or was their heritage just not known at the time? Unlike many countries, Ulster Ireland is very proud of their part in the history of this country. If any of you have ever been to Londonderry, I hope you had a chance to see the museum with history of the Ulster countrymen and families, and a number of displays dedicated to those who left and became famous people in our country. My husband and I both found it very interesting, especially since it showed how those people lived before they left. Currently, there is a group of people in Ulster Ireland who are busy combing all kinds of records and published material so that the information can be entered into the data bases for the Heritage Centres for No. Ireland. Every so often they discover the Ulster roots of prominent U.S. citizens. I must have accidently deleted the last two messages, but I believe the roots of John Steinbeck was one whose Ulster roots were recently discovered, the other I have forgotten. The information on both appeared in articles written by Brian Mitchell, in "Irish Roots " [Tony McCarthy, editor/publisher, Cork, Ireland]. Brian Mitchell [and family] of Eglinton, No. Ireland is a good friend of mine. He is Dir of the History Centre in Londonderry, a speaker at many conferences and seminars, and the author of a number of books, including A New Genealogical Atlas of Ireland, the Guide to Irish Parish Registers, A Guide to Irish Churches and Graveyards and magazine articles. Brian is one of the people working on this continuing project. If anyone is interested in reading material about the Scots Irish, there are a number of books on the market, most are published by Genealogical Publishing Co. of Baltimore, MD. I own a number of books, and would be happy to share my bibliography with those who are interested. I'm going to miss the action on this 'list' when I have to temporarily unscribe for vacation. Happy researching, Sharon Ford Van Nuys, CA [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Miller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 3:02 PM Subject: [MOLAWREN-L] Irish plague of leprechauns > Judy, > > Since I am half Irish I find this of very serious interest. Having an > Irish sense of humor I find it very serious. :-D Our family is happy > with our leprechauns and their little tricks. LOFL, that was > great...really great. But, seriously, how much information did you find > on us scourges? I would be interested in learning more about the social > attitudes, migrations and settlements of the Irish from 1800 to the mid > 1900s. > Pat Miller > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lawrence County Query, Biography, Obituary, Will, Deed, Bible, Pension, etc., Boards at: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.st ates.missouri.counties.lawrence > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >