you are right we can only do so much. perhaps it is life influences or just plainstuborness. I wish I had had an adoptive/foster parent. That is why I do what I do . To help at least one child. Cm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Prieskorn" <dalell@earthlink.net> To: <molawren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN] Maple Park Cemetery >I was a foster parent in the State of California, > I was the one that went to the hospital to pick > up the new born that just got off drugs after birth. > I would keep the child until a State worker picked > The child up. Yes the parents need to wake up, That child > Will grow up in the system, I could only do so much too. > I adopted two girls, and raised them with a hard but > loving hand, they are both very dear to me and I love them > very much. One turned into a drug user the other a wonderful mother. > Who knows, the were raised with the same love . > Ellie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: molawren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:molawren-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of cora miller > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 10:00 AM > To: molawren@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN] Maple Park Cemetery > > As a child advocate in Ottawa county ok > I agree with you. > to a point. > Working in court system and advocating for kids. > parents are more worried about their casinos ,drinks and friends instead > of > parenting (in ottawa county,ok) > When children are removed from the home (I see them then) and I work my > tailto ffind what is going on and find out what is in childs best > interest. > Then court and family services say "they need to be back with parents" > they > love them and it is em9otional to thake them away. (The damage is already > done) > then within a year same kids are back in system. > you are right they do need spanked most of time. > > But parents need to slow down and be parents first and and then > participate in whatever activities later. > Children are our future and it looks bleak right now. > I got tired f complaining and decided to do sometthing and I became a > child > advocate, I also got educated in laws in various states governing kids. > I have helped parents and kids "see the light" > cora miller > blind in Oklahoma > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eleanor Prieskorn" <dalell@earthlink.net> > To: <molawren@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 9:14 AM > Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN] Maple Park Cemetery > > >>I guess all of you know by now that those poor mistreated >> children are striking back, but you don't dare give them the >> attention on there back side that they needed when they were >> much younger. Thanks to our do-gooder (that probably never had >> a child)laws passed for the protection of the little monsters >> the kid yells and the parents are tossed in court. Teacher's, >> fired and if that does not work the little person yells sexual >> molestation, then the parent has to try and prove he or she >> is innocent, but by that time the reputation is gone, the kid >> is put in another home for it to happen all over again. >> >> Don't start in on me, I know there are real mistreated and >> molestation out there, there is a way to take care of those. >> >> When most of us were growing up we got our backside spanked >> and the fear of God would strike us down to do damage in a >> Cemetery, or any place else, most of the ones that do the >> damage most likely does not even believe in God. >> >> And I might add, for the child molester hang him or her >> until they rot. As for children seeing this, that would >> be up to the parent, not the State. Bet there would be a >> lot less molesters. Our Laws now protect the guilty. >> >> Ellie >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: molawren-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:molawren-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of PAT MILLER >> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 8:19 AM >> To: Ross Cameron; molawren@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN] Maple Park Cemetery >> >> Jay and Ross, >> Several years ago the Marionville IOOF cemetery was vandelized and the >> pioneer part was almost completely distroyed. That was the part near the >> railroad tracks. Our big McNatt stone in Maple Park is on the part >> facing >> Elliott and is not under any trees. Several other large family stones >> front >> on Elliott. I will check with the family to see if they are okay. >> Pat Miller >> >> Ross Cameron <rcameron49@earthlink.net> wrote: >> Jay, >> >> This has happened at several cemeteries in Lawrence County over the past >> ten >> or more years. In the case of the Old South Bend Cemetery where my Patton >> ancestors and others are buried, some stones were broken into pieces. I >> don't remember all the cemeteries, but the Mt. Vernon IOOF Cemetery had >> some >> stones turned over, too, a year or so ago, I think. Some of the cemetery >> vandals over the years have been caught by the authorities. Hopefully, >> they >> will catch these, too. >> >> Ross Cameron >> >> -----Original Message----- >>>From: jay trace >>>Sent: Mar 26, 2007 7:52 AM >>>To: molawren@rootsweb.com >>>Subject: [MOLAWREN] Maple Park Cemetery >>> >>>I thought I'd share with you folks the fact that I >>>drove by Maple Park Cemetery yesterday and I noticed >>>that a tombstone had fallen over. With the ice storm >>>we had in January and all of the really big branches >>>that had come off of the trees, it was no surprise. >>>However, when I drove through the cemetery, I noticed >>>that there were a dozen stones, and I mean big ones, >>>that had the stones knocked off of the bases. These >>>were stones that I wouldn't be able to lift, much less >>>put back. Most weren't near any trees, so it was >>>obviously some snot-nose and his buddies that came >>>around and kicked them over. >>> >>>I called the number that was in the phone book for the >>>cemetery and left a message for the caretaker, but >>>it's a shame. All but one were in the section that >>>was directly facing Elliott Street, so they were >>>pretty brazen. Luckily, I saw no broken stones. >>> >>>jay >>> >>> >>> >>>__________________________________________________________________________ > _ >> _________ >>>No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go >>>with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. 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