We should hear the good news, too, so here's a story about cemetery work being done in Lawrence County by a friend of mine (if you get the Lawrence County Record or the LCHS Bulletin you already know about the recognition and honors that he has received in the past year): http://www.joplinglobe.com/people/local_story_082122649.html/resources_printstory Ross -----Original Message----- >From: jay trace <jibberish66@yahoo.com> >Sent: Mar 26, 2007 7:52 AM >To: molawren@rootsweb.com >Subject: [MOLAWREN] Maple Park Cemetery > >I thought I'd share with you folks the fact that I >drove by Maple Park Cemetery yesterday and I noticed >that a tombstone had fallen over. With the ice storm >we had in January and all of the really big branches >that had come off of the trees, it was no surprise. >However, when I drove through the cemetery, I noticed >that there were a dozen stones, and I mean big ones, >that had the stones knocked off of the bases. These >were stones that I wouldn't be able to lift, much less >put back. Most weren't near any trees, so it was >obviously some snot-nose and his buddies that came >around and kicked them over. > >I called the number that was in the phone book for the >cemetery and left a message for the caretaker, but >it's a shame. All but one were in the section that >was directly facing Elliott Street, so they were >pretty brazen. Luckily, I saw no broken stones. > >jay > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________ >No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go >with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. >http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I was assuming it was drunken adults, but I suppose it could be teenagers or even younger children. Makes you want to put one of those cameras scientists use for taking pictures of tigers at night in the cemetery to catch the baddies. - Heather http://surgerysupport.uchicago.edu/hblair/ On Mon, 26 Mar 2007, Pat Miller wrote: > Please don't think I don't know about kids. I raised two and have seven > (7) grandkids. But, we don't really know who knocked over the > tombstones. Everyone assumes that it was kids. Kids do stupid things, > but drunk adults do too. Let's wait to see what actually happened. > Pat Miller > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ross, Does this man have any information on people buried at Sycamore Cem. in Miller, Lawrence Co., Mo.? I still have a few blank spots on the mini bios I am putting together in my booklet on the people buried there. Also, a big thanks goes out to you and your family and all the folks at the Lawrence Co. Historical Society for all the help you give us with our research in and on Lawrence Co., Mo. We couldn't do it without you. Thanks. Robina -----Original Message----- From: molawren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:molawren-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Ross Cameron Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 11:42 AM To: molawren@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN] Maple Park Cemetery We should hear the good news, too, so here's a story about cemetery work being done in Lawrence County by a friend of mine (if you get the Lawrence County Record or the LCHS Bulletin you already know about the recognition and honors that he has received in the past year): http://www.joplinglobe.com/people/local_story_082122649.html/resources_print story Ross -----Original Message----- >From: jay trace <jibberish66@yahoo.com> >Sent: Mar 26, 2007 7:52 AM >To: molawren@rootsweb.com >Subject: [MOLAWREN] Maple Park Cemetery > >I thought I'd share with you folks the fact that I >drove by Maple Park Cemetery yesterday and I noticed >that a tombstone had fallen over. With the ice storm >we had in January and all of the really big branches >that had come off of the trees, it was no surprise. >However, when I drove through the cemetery, I noticed >that there were a dozen stones, and I mean big ones, >that had the stones knocked off of the bases. These >were stones that I wouldn't be able to lift, much less >put back. Most weren't near any trees, so it was >obviously some snot-nose and his buddies that came >around and kicked them over. > >I called the number that was in the phone book for the >cemetery and left a message for the caretaker, but >it's a shame. All but one were in the section that >was directly facing Elliott Street, so they were >pretty brazen. Luckily, I saw no broken stones. > >jay > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ _________ >No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go >with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. >http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

you are right we can only do so much. perhaps it is life influences or just plainstuborness. I wish I had had an adoptive/foster parent. That is why I do what I do . To help at least one child. Cm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Prieskorn" <dalell@earthlink.net> To: <molawren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN] Maple Park Cemetery >I was a foster parent in the State of California, > I was the one that went to the hospital to pick > up the new born that just got off drugs after birth. > I would keep the child until a State worker picked > The child up. Yes the parents need to wake up, That child > Will grow up in the system, I could only do so much too. > I adopted two girls, and raised them with a hard but > loving hand, they are both very dear to me and I love them > very much. One turned into a drug user the other a wonderful mother. > Who knows, the were raised with the same love . > Ellie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: molawren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:molawren-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of cora miller > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 10:00 AM > To: molawren@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN] Maple Park Cemetery > > As a child advocate in Ottawa county ok > I agree with you. > to a point. > Working in court system and advocating for kids. > parents are more worried about their casinos ,drinks and friends instead > of > parenting (in ottawa county,ok) > When children are removed from the home (I see them then) and I work my > tailto ffind what is going on and find out what is in childs best > interest. > Then court and family services say "they need to be back with parents" > they > love them and it is em9otional to thake them away. (The damage is already > done) > then within a year same kids are back in system. > you are right they do need spanked most of time. > > But parents need to slow down and be parents first and and then > participate in whatever activities later. > Children are our future and it looks bleak right now. > I got tired f complaining and decided to do sometthing and I became a > child > advocate, I also got educated in laws in various states governing kids. > I have helped parents and kids "see the light" > cora miller > blind in Oklahoma > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eleanor Prieskorn" <dalell@earthlink.net> > To: <molawren@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 9:14 AM > Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN] Maple Park Cemetery > > >>I guess all of you know by now that those poor mistreated >> children are striking back, but you don't dare give them the >> attention on there back side that they needed when they were >> much younger. Thanks to our do-gooder (that probably never had >> a child)laws passed for the protection of the little monsters >> the kid yells and the parents are tossed in court. Teacher's, >> fired and if that does not work the little person yells sexual >> molestation, then the parent has to try and prove he or she >> is innocent, but by that time the reputation is gone, the kid >> is put in another home for it to happen all over again. >> >> Don't start in on me, I know there are real mistreated and >> molestation out there, there is a way to take care of those. >> >> When most of us were growing up we got our backside spanked >> and the fear of God would strike us down to do damage in a >> Cemetery, or any place else, most of the ones that do the >> damage most likely does not even believe in God. >> >> And I might add, for the child molester hang him or her >> until they rot. As for children seeing this, that would >> be up to the parent, not the State. Bet there would be a >> lot less molesters. Our Laws now protect the guilty. >> >> Ellie >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: molawren-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:molawren-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of PAT MILLER >> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 8:19 AM >> To: Ross Cameron; molawren@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN] Maple Park Cemetery >> >> Jay and Ross, >> Several years ago the Marionville IOOF cemetery was vandelized and the >> pioneer part was almost completely distroyed. That was the part near the >> railroad tracks. Our big McNatt stone in Maple Park is on the part >> facing >> Elliott and is not under any trees. Several other large family stones >> front >> on Elliott. I will check with the family to see if they are okay. >> Pat Miller >> >> Ross Cameron <rcameron49@earthlink.net> wrote: >> Jay, >> >> This has happened at several cemeteries in Lawrence County over the past >> ten >> or more years. In the case of the Old South Bend Cemetery where my Patton >> ancestors and others are buried, some stones were broken into pieces. I >> don't remember all the cemeteries, but the Mt. Vernon IOOF Cemetery had >> some >> stones turned over, too, a year or so ago, I think. Some of the cemetery >> vandals over the years have been caught by the authorities. Hopefully, >> they >> will catch these, too. >> >> Ross Cameron >> >> -----Original Message----- >>>From: jay trace >>>Sent: Mar 26, 2007 7:52 AM >>>To: molawren@rootsweb.com >>>Subject: [MOLAWREN] Maple Park Cemetery >>> >>>I thought I'd share with you folks the fact that I >>>drove by Maple Park Cemetery yesterday and I noticed >>>that a tombstone had fallen over. With the ice storm >>>we had in January and all of the really big branches >>>that had come off of the trees, it was no surprise. >>>However, when I drove through the cemetery, I noticed >>>that there were a dozen stones, and I mean big ones, >>>that had the stones knocked off of the bases. These >>>were stones that I wouldn't be able to lift, much less >>>put back. Most weren't near any trees, so it was >>>obviously some snot-nose and his buddies that came >>>around and kicked them over. >>> >>>I called the number that was in the phone book for the >>>cemetery and left a message for the caretaker, but >>>it's a shame. All but one were in the section that >>>was directly facing Elliott Street, so they were >>>pretty brazen. Luckily, I saw no broken stones. >>> >>>jay >>> >>> >>> >>>__________________________________________________________________________ > _ >> _________ >>>No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go >>>with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. 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I understand as well chances are it was teen agers . Sorry abou last post. Cora ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Miller" <pgmiller@flash.net> To: <molawren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 10:47 AM Subject: [MOLAWREN] Maple Park Cemetery > Please don't think I don't know about kids. I raised two and have seven > (7) grandkids. But, we don't really know who knocked over the > tombstones. Everyone assumes that it was kids. Kids do stupid things, > but drunk adults do too. Let's wait to see what actually happened. > Pat Miller > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.18/733 - Release Date: 3/25/2007 > 11:07 AM > >

In a message dated 3/26/2007 4:52:57 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jibberish66@yahoo.com writes: I thought I'd share with you folks the fact that I drove by Maple Park Cemetery yesterday and I noticed that a tombstone had fallen over. With the ice storm we had in January and all of the really big branches that had come off of the trees, it was no surprise. However, when I drove through the cemetery, I noticed that there were a dozen stones, and I mean big ones, that had the stones knocked off of the bases. These were stones that I wouldn't be able to lift, much less put back. Most weren't near any trees, so it was obviously some snot-nose and his buddies that came around and kicked them over. I called the number that was in the phone book for the cemetery and left a message for the caretaker, but it's a shame. All but one were in the section that was directly facing Elliott Street, so they were pretty brazen. Luckily, I saw no broken stones. jay ______________________________________________________________________________ ______ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message thank you for the information, Jay. I have several ancestors, including my Mother, buried there. I am far away in California. Patricia ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Thanks, Ross, for sharing such a wonderful story about Ray Gene Richardson with those of us in other states. My cousin and I visited Mt. Vernon in 2005 and spent quite some time in Maple Park Cemetery taking pictures of family headstones. Thanks to you and your directions, we were able to actually visit six cemeteries in one day and accomplish a great deal in documenting our family history. Maple Park was a beautiful cemetery and it's unfortunate that someone decided they had a right to violate the resting place of so many. Twila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross Cameron" <rcameron49@earthlink.net> To: <molawren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN] Maple Park Cemetery > We should hear the good news, too, so here's a story about cemetery work > being done in Lawrence County by a friend of mine (if you get the Lawrence > County Record or the LCHS Bulletin you already know about the recognition > and honors that he has received in the past year): > > http://www.joplinglobe.com/people/local_story_082122649.html/resources_printstory > > Ross > >

Please don't think I don't know about kids. I raised two and have seven (7) grandkids. But, we don't really know who knocked over the tombstones. Everyone assumes that it was kids. Kids do stupid things, but drunk adults do too. Let's wait to see what actually happened. Pat Miller

go for it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda" <fabman123a@yahoo.com> To: <molawren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN] Maple Park Cemetery > If it was Vandals and not ground movement hope there caught really quick > to bad we don't have public flogging bet that would change some bad > behavior problems. > A small cemetery I know had Vandals about every Friday so some people > sit up video cameras and caught the villains in the act. 4 Full grown men > youngest 41. > Linda > > Roulx@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 3/26/2007 4:52:57 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > jibberish66@yahoo.com writes: > > I thought I'd share with you folks the fact that I > drove by Maple Park Cemetery yesterday and I noticed > that a tombstone had fallen over. With the ice storm > we had in January and all of the really big branches > that had come off of the trees, it was no surprise. > However, when I drove through the cemetery, I noticed > that there were a dozen stones, and I mean big ones, > that had the stones knocked off of the bases. These > were stones that I wouldn't be able to lift, much less > put back. Most weren't near any trees, so it was > obviously some snot-nose and his buddies that came > around and kicked them over. > > I called the number that was in the phone book for the > cemetery and left a message for the caretaker, but > it's a shame. All but one were in the section that > was directly facing Elliott Street, so they were > pretty brazen. Luckily, I saw no broken stones. > > jay > > > > ______________________________________________________________________________ > ______ > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > > > thank you for the information, Jay. I have several ancestors, including my > Mother, buried there. I am far away in California. > > Patricia > > > > ************************************** AOL now offers free email to > everyone. > Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a PS3 game guru. > Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! > Games. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I was a foster parent in the State of California, I was the one that went to the hospital to pick up the new born that just got off drugs after birth. I would keep the child until a State worker picked The child up. Yes the parents need to wake up, That child Will grow up in the system, I could only do so much too. I adopted two girls, and raised them with a hard but loving hand, they are both very dear to me and I love them very much. One turned into a drug user the other a wonderful mother. Who knows, the were raised with the same love . Ellie -----Original Message----- From: molawren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:molawren-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of cora miller Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 10:00 AM To: molawren@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN] Maple Park Cemetery As a child advocate in Ottawa county ok I agree with you. to a point. Working in court system and advocating for kids. parents are more worried about their casinos ,drinks and friends instead of parenting (in ottawa county,ok) When children are removed from the home (I see them then) and I work my tailto ffind what is going on and find out what is in childs best interest. Then court and family services say "they need to be back with parents" they love them and it is em9otional to thake them away. (The damage is already done) then within a year same kids are back in system. you are right they do need spanked most of time. But parents need to slow down and be parents first and and then participate in whatever activities later. Children are our future and it looks bleak right now. I got tired f complaining and decided to do sometthing and I became a child advocate, I also got educated in laws in various states governing kids. I have helped parents and kids "see the light" cora miller blind in Oklahoma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Prieskorn" <dalell@earthlink.net> To: <molawren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN] Maple Park Cemetery >I guess all of you know by now that those poor mistreated > children are striking back, but you don't dare give them the > attention on there back side that they needed when they were > much younger. Thanks to our do-gooder (that probably never had > a child)laws passed for the protection of the little monsters > the kid yells and the parents are tossed in court. Teacher's, > fired and if that does not work the little person yells sexual > molestation, then the parent has to try and prove he or she > is innocent, but by that time the reputation is gone, the kid > is put in another home for it to happen all over again. > > Don't start in on me, I know there are real mistreated and > molestation out there, there is a way to take care of those. > > When most of us were growing up we got our backside spanked > and the fear of God would strike us down to do damage in a > Cemetery, or any place else, most of the ones that do the > damage most likely does not even believe in God. > > And I might add, for the child molester hang him or her > until they rot. As for children seeing this, that would > be up to the parent, not the State. Bet there would be a > lot less molesters. Our Laws now protect the guilty. > > Ellie > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: molawren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:molawren-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of PAT MILLER > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 8:19 AM > To: Ross Cameron; molawren@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN] Maple Park Cemetery > > Jay and Ross, > Several years ago the Marionville IOOF cemetery was vandelized and the > pioneer part was almost completely distroyed. That was the part near the > railroad tracks. Our big McNatt stone in Maple Park is on the part facing > Elliott and is not under any trees. Several other large family stones > front > on Elliott. I will check with the family to see if they are okay. > Pat Miller > > Ross Cameron <rcameron49@earthlink.net> wrote: > Jay, > > This has happened at several cemeteries in Lawrence County over the past > ten > or more years. In the case of the Old South Bend Cemetery where my Patton > ancestors and others are buried, some stones were broken into pieces. I > don't remember all the cemeteries, but the Mt. Vernon IOOF Cemetery had > some > stones turned over, too, a year or so ago, I think. Some of the cemetery > vandals over the years have been caught by the authorities. Hopefully, > they > will catch these, too. > > Ross Cameron > > -----Original Message----- >>From: jay trace >>Sent: Mar 26, 2007 7:52 AM >>To: molawren@rootsweb.com >>Subject: [MOLAWREN] Maple Park Cemetery >> >>I thought I'd share with you folks the fact that I >>drove by Maple Park Cemetery yesterday and I noticed >>that a tombstone had fallen over. With the ice storm >>we had in January and all of the really big branches >>that had come off of the trees, it was no surprise. >>However, when I drove through the cemetery, I noticed >>that there were a dozen stones, and I mean big ones, >>that had the stones knocked off of the bases. These >>were stones that I wouldn't be able to lift, much less >>put back. Most weren't near any trees, so it was >>obviously some snot-nose and his buddies that came >>around and kicked them over. >> >>I called the number that was in the phone book for the >>cemetery and left a message for the caretaker, but >>it's a shame. All but one were in the section that >>was directly facing Elliott Street, so they were >>pretty brazen. Luckily, I saw no broken stones. >> >>jay >> >> >> >>__________________________________________________________________________ _ > _________ >>No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go >>with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. 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As a child advocate in Ottawa county ok I agree with you. to a point. Working in court system and advocating for kids. parents are more worried about their casinos ,drinks and friends instead of parenting (in ottawa county,ok) When children are removed from the home (I see them then) and I work my tailto ffind what is going on and find out what is in childs best interest. Then court and family services say "they need to be back with parents" they love them and it is em9otional to thake them away. (The damage is already done) then within a year same kids are back in system. you are right they do need spanked most of time. But parents need to slow down and be parents first and and then participate in whatever activities later. Children are our future and it looks bleak right now. I got tired f complaining and decided to do sometthing and I became a child advocate, I also got educated in laws in various states governing kids. I have helped parents and kids "see the light" cora miller blind in Oklahoma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Prieskorn" <dalell@earthlink.net> To: <molawren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN] Maple Park Cemetery >I guess all of you know by now that those poor mistreated > children are striking back, but you don't dare give them the > attention on there back side that they needed when they were > much younger. Thanks to our do-gooder (that probably never had > a child)laws passed for the protection of the little monsters > the kid yells and the parents are tossed in court. Teacher's, > fired and if that does not work the little person yells sexual > molestation, then the parent has to try and prove he or she > is innocent, but by that time the reputation is gone, the kid > is put in another home for it to happen all over again. > > Don't start in on me, I know there are real mistreated and > molestation out there, there is a way to take care of those. > > When most of us were growing up we got our backside spanked > and the fear of God would strike us down to do damage in a > Cemetery, or any place else, most of the ones that do the > damage most likely does not even believe in God. > > And I might add, for the child molester hang him or her > until they rot. As for children seeing this, that would > be up to the parent, not the State. Bet there would be a > lot less molesters. Our Laws now protect the guilty. > > Ellie > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: molawren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:molawren-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of PAT MILLER > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 8:19 AM > To: Ross Cameron; molawren@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN] Maple Park Cemetery > > Jay and Ross, > Several years ago the Marionville IOOF cemetery was vandelized and the > pioneer part was almost completely distroyed. That was the part near the > railroad tracks. Our big McNatt stone in Maple Park is on the part facing > Elliott and is not under any trees. Several other large family stones > front > on Elliott. I will check with the family to see if they are okay. > Pat Miller > > Ross Cameron <rcameron49@earthlink.net> wrote: > Jay, > > This has happened at several cemeteries in Lawrence County over the past > ten > or more years. In the case of the Old South Bend Cemetery where my Patton > ancestors and others are buried, some stones were broken into pieces. I > don't remember all the cemeteries, but the Mt. Vernon IOOF Cemetery had > some > stones turned over, too, a year or so ago, I think. Some of the cemetery > vandals over the years have been caught by the authorities. Hopefully, > they > will catch these, too. > > Ross Cameron > > -----Original Message----- >>From: jay trace >>Sent: Mar 26, 2007 7:52 AM >>To: molawren@rootsweb.com >>Subject: [MOLAWREN] Maple Park Cemetery >> >>I thought I'd share with you folks the fact that I >>drove by Maple Park Cemetery yesterday and I noticed >>that a tombstone had fallen over. With the ice storm >>we had in January and all of the really big branches >>that had come off of the trees, it was no surprise. >>However, when I drove through the cemetery, I noticed >>that there were a dozen stones, and I mean big ones, >>that had the stones knocked off of the bases. These >>were stones that I wouldn't be able to lift, much less >>put back. Most weren't near any trees, so it was >>obviously some snot-nose and his buddies that came >>around and kicked them over. >> >>I called the number that was in the phone book for the >>cemetery and left a message for the caretaker, but >>it's a shame. All but one were in the section that >>was directly facing Elliott Street, so they were >>pretty brazen. Luckily, I saw no broken stones. >> >>jay >> >> >> >>___________________________________________________________________________ > _________ >>No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go >>with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. 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If it was Vandals and not ground movement hope there caught really quick to bad we don't have public flogging bet that would change some bad behavior problems. A small cemetery I know had Vandals about every Friday so some people sit up video cameras and caught the villains in the act. 4 Full grown men youngest 41. Linda Roulx@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 3/26/2007 4:52:57 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jibberish66@yahoo.com writes: I thought I'd share with you folks the fact that I drove by Maple Park Cemetery yesterday and I noticed that a tombstone had fallen over. With the ice storm we had in January and all of the really big branches that had come off of the trees, it was no surprise. However, when I drove through the cemetery, I noticed that there were a dozen stones, and I mean big ones, that had the stones knocked off of the bases. These were stones that I wouldn't be able to lift, much less put back. Most weren't near any trees, so it was obviously some snot-nose and his buddies that came around and kicked them over. I called the number that was in the phone book for the cemetery and left a message for the caretaker, but it's a shame. All but one were in the section that was directly facing Elliott Street, so they were pretty brazen. Luckily, I saw no broken stones. jay ______________________________________________________________________________ ______ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message thank you for the information, Jay. I have several ancestors, including my Mother, buried there. I am far away in California. Patricia ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games.

I guess all of you know by now that those poor mistreated children are striking back, but you don't dare give them the attention on there back side that they needed when they were much younger. Thanks to our do-gooder (that probably never had a child)laws passed for the protection of the little monsters the kid yells and the parents are tossed in court. Teacher's, fired and if that does not work the little person yells sexual molestation, then the parent has to try and prove he or she is innocent, but by that time the reputation is gone, the kid is put in another home for it to happen all over again. Don't start in on me, I know there are real mistreated and molestation out there, there is a way to take care of those. When most of us were growing up we got our backside spanked and the fear of God would strike us down to do damage in a Cemetery, or any place else, most of the ones that do the damage most likely does not even believe in God. And I might add, for the child molester hang him or her until they rot. As for children seeing this, that would be up to the parent, not the State. Bet there would be a lot less molesters. Our Laws now protect the guilty. Ellie -----Original Message----- From: molawren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:molawren-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PAT MILLER Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 8:19 AM To: Ross Cameron; molawren@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN] Maple Park Cemetery Jay and Ross, Several years ago the Marionville IOOF cemetery was vandelized and the pioneer part was almost completely distroyed. That was the part near the railroad tracks. Our big McNatt stone in Maple Park is on the part facing Elliott and is not under any trees. Several other large family stones front on Elliott. I will check with the family to see if they are okay. Pat Miller Ross Cameron <rcameron49@earthlink.net> wrote: Jay, This has happened at several cemeteries in Lawrence County over the past ten or more years. In the case of the Old South Bend Cemetery where my Patton ancestors and others are buried, some stones were broken into pieces. I don't remember all the cemeteries, but the Mt. Vernon IOOF Cemetery had some stones turned over, too, a year or so ago, I think. Some of the cemetery vandals over the years have been caught by the authorities. Hopefully, they will catch these, too. Ross Cameron -----Original Message----- >From: jay trace >Sent: Mar 26, 2007 7:52 AM >To: molawren@rootsweb.com >Subject: [MOLAWREN] Maple Park Cemetery > >I thought I'd share with you folks the fact that I >drove by Maple Park Cemetery yesterday and I noticed >that a tombstone had fallen over. With the ice storm >we had in January and all of the really big branches >that had come off of the trees, it was no surprise. >However, when I drove through the cemetery, I noticed >that there were a dozen stones, and I mean big ones, >that had the stones knocked off of the bases. These >were stones that I wouldn't be able to lift, much less >put back. Most weren't near any trees, so it was >obviously some snot-nose and his buddies that came >around and kicked them over. > >I called the number that was in the phone book for the >cemetery and left a message for the caretaker, but >it's a shame. All but one were in the section that >was directly facing Elliott Street, so they were >pretty brazen. Luckily, I saw no broken stones. > >jay > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ _________ >No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go >with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. >http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.18/733 - Release Date: 3/25/2007 11:07 AM

Jay, This has happened at several cemeteries in Lawrence County over the past ten or more years. In the case of the Old South Bend Cemetery where my Patton ancestors and others are buried, some stones were broken into pieces. I don't remember all the cemeteries, but the Mt. Vernon IOOF Cemetery had some stones turned over, too, a year or so ago, I think. Some of the cemetery vandals over the years have been caught by the authorities. Hopefully, they will catch these, too. Ross Cameron -----Original Message----- >From: jay trace <jibberish66@yahoo.com> >Sent: Mar 26, 2007 7:52 AM >To: molawren@rootsweb.com >Subject: [MOLAWREN] Maple Park Cemetery > >I thought I'd share with you folks the fact that I >drove by Maple Park Cemetery yesterday and I noticed >that a tombstone had fallen over. With the ice storm >we had in January and all of the really big branches >that had come off of the trees, it was no surprise. >However, when I drove through the cemetery, I noticed >that there were a dozen stones, and I mean big ones, >that had the stones knocked off of the bases. These >were stones that I wouldn't be able to lift, much less >put back. Most weren't near any trees, so it was >obviously some snot-nose and his buddies that came >around and kicked them over. > >I called the number that was in the phone book for the >cemetery and left a message for the caretaker, but >it's a shame. All but one were in the section that >was directly facing Elliott Street, so they were >pretty brazen. Luckily, I saw no broken stones. > >jay > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________ >No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go >with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. >http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jay and Ross, Several years ago the Marionville IOOF cemetery was vandelized and the pioneer part was almost completely distroyed. That was the part near the railroad tracks. Our big McNatt stone in Maple Park is on the part facing Elliott and is not under any trees. Several other large family stones front on Elliott. I will check with the family to see if they are okay. Pat Miller Ross Cameron <rcameron49@earthlink.net> wrote: Jay, This has happened at several cemeteries in Lawrence County over the past ten or more years. In the case of the Old South Bend Cemetery where my Patton ancestors and others are buried, some stones were broken into pieces. I don't remember all the cemeteries, but the Mt. Vernon IOOF Cemetery had some stones turned over, too, a year or so ago, I think. Some of the cemetery vandals over the years have been caught by the authorities. Hopefully, they will catch these, too. Ross Cameron -----Original Message----- >From: jay trace >Sent: Mar 26, 2007 7:52 AM >To: molawren@rootsweb.com >Subject: [MOLAWREN] Maple Park Cemetery > >I thought I'd share with you folks the fact that I >drove by Maple Park Cemetery yesterday and I noticed >that a tombstone had fallen over. With the ice storm >we had in January and all of the really big branches >that had come off of the trees, it was no surprise. >However, when I drove through the cemetery, I noticed >that there were a dozen stones, and I mean big ones, >that had the stones knocked off of the bases. These >were stones that I wouldn't be able to lift, much less >put back. Most weren't near any trees, so it was >obviously some snot-nose and his buddies that came >around and kicked them over. > >I called the number that was in the phone book for the >cemetery and left a message for the caretaker, but >it's a shame. All but one were in the section that >was directly facing Elliott Street, so they were >pretty brazen. Luckily, I saw no broken stones. > >jay > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________ >No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go >with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. >http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ross, noticed your mention of Patton and can't remember if I asked you about Nancy Patton 5-22-1770 NJ died 1-15-1855 Dade Co., Mo. She was married to Clayton Stockton. I do not have her burial place? Thanks, Kaye

I thought I'd share with you folks the fact that I drove by Maple Park Cemetery yesterday and I noticed that a tombstone had fallen over. With the ice storm we had in January and all of the really big branches that had come off of the trees, it was no surprise. However, when I drove through the cemetery, I noticed that there were a dozen stones, and I mean big ones, that had the stones knocked off of the bases. These were stones that I wouldn't be able to lift, much less put back. Most weren't near any trees, so it was obviously some snot-nose and his buddies that came around and kicked them over. I called the number that was in the phone book for the cemetery and left a message for the caretaker, but it's a shame. All but one were in the section that was directly facing Elliott Street, so they were pretty brazen. Luckily, I saw no broken stones. jay ____________________________________________________________________________________ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail

I would like to add my name also, to purchase both books. Gail Wheeler Thanks. Rowell, Carolyn wrote: >Would it be possible to add my name to those wanting the book "Wire Road"? I've just discovered an ancestor who had a house on that road. > >Thanks, >Carolyn Rowell > >________________________________ > >From: molawren-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of jay trace >Sent: Fri 3/23/2007 7:11 AM >To: molawren@rootsweb.com >Subject: [MOLAWREN] Wire Road/Trail of Tears books > > > >Hello there, >I wanted you all to know that I've let Ted Roller know >about everyone that indicated an interest in either >the "Down The Wire Road" book or the Trail of Tears >book that was discussed here in the last few days. > >I know that a portion of the proceeds from "Wire Road" >goes to the Barry County Genealogical & Historical >Society, and we really appreciate your interest. > >I hope that you all are as riveted as I was with the >stories from the Old Wire Road. Luckily, Fern Angus >compiled all of them before she passed away, and then >Ted added to them. It's sad to think of all the >stories that WEREN'T saved and now are lost forever. > >Thanks again, >jay trace > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________ >TV dinner still cooling? >Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. >http://tv.yahoo.com/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Gail Wheeler wrote: CORRECTION..... > <>My grandmother was Elva Leo DAVIS who married Henry TWILLIGEAR.(not > Davis) <>Elva was the daughter of Thomas Baldwin DAVIS and Emily Jane TERRILL. Elva was the granddaughter of Harden and Nancy DAVIS. > >I was so pleased to read more about some of the other Davis relatives >today on MoLawrence. Thanks for sharing. >Gail in Indiana > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Hi again cousin Pat, Sorry, since you said Lawrence Co., I did not check the other counties. The Barry County references are: p. 35: Aged Tax-Payers in 1860-61. -- The tax-payers in Barry County in 1860-61 who were over fifty-five years of age [I'm offended by over 55 being called "aged". Ha!] at the commencement of the War of the Rebellion are named as follows: . . . P. H. Trower, . . .. p. 58: Modern Townships: . . . Flat Creek Township was established in March, 1844, within the following described boundaries: from the fith crossing of Flat Creek near P. Trower's house, to William McKenney's house, including it, thence to the Taney County line near the head of Big Creek, . . .. Interesting but probably not much help. I also found a reference in Bill Lander's Barry County Probate Lettes, 1835-1853, p. 12: pages 119-121 [original book]: John Fennety [dec'd], John O Burton, Adm. Bond: $100., 1 March 1847, John O Burton, Principal, Isaac Newton, Jeremiah Parish and Pleasant H. Trower, Bondsmen. . . .. Not much help either. Have you looked for Pleasant Trower's probate records in Barry Co.? Did he die there? When? His heirs should be named in his probate records. Ross -----Original Message----- >From: Roulx@aol.com >Sent: Mar 23, 2007 9:08 PM >To: molawren@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN] Trower > > >In a message dated 3/23/2007 5:52:17 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >r1l1hahn@aol.com writes: > >Pat: > >In knowing that the Trowers had at one time lived in Barry Co., Missouri I >looked up the Barry Co. Genweb site at //www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry.htm, >scrolled down the page and found the box that had a search area, entered Tower and >came up with several hits including a list of surnames in the Barry Co. >Goodspeed 1888 History. The surnames included P. Trower on page 58 and P. H. >Trower on page 35. I only looked briefly at this site but it looks like you may >have to ask someone in that county to do a look-up for you to find out >exactly what is in Goodspeed on the Trowers on these pages. > >Lynda > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Roulx@aol.com >To: MOLAWREN-L@rootsweb.com >Sent: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 5:23 PM >Subject: [MOLAWREN] Trower > > >Does anyone have an indexed copy of Goodspeed's 1888 History of Lawrence >County? If so, is there any mention of Pleasant Henry Trower in the book? > >Patricia > > > >************************************** AOL now offers free email to >everyone. >Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >of >the message >________________________________________________________________________ >AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from > AOL at AOL.com. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >body of the message > > > >No, I need to correct that....I aske about Lawrence Co. and he said no, so >maybe that was the problem....it is Barry Co. > >Pat > > > >************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. > Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message