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    1. Re: [MOLAWREN-L] [MOLAWREN] William Gross
    2. Hi Ross Cameron, The information I have is on my mothers delayed birthcertificate.. which was dated August 7th, 1944 in Lawrence MO...thats when the Gross family signed my mothers birthcertificate.. the original birth took place in West Helena Arkansas in August 29, 1930... The Signature for Willaim Gross on my mother's birthcertificate is Mrs. O.W. Gross which is not listed anywhere and the only Gross I could find for Lawrence Missouri is William Gross.. I have sent away for my mothers origian social security application form... so that should give me the right answers when it comes in.. I wan informed tho that since my mother's birth mother Ms Clauida Aldine Mills born 1914 is Mrs. O.W. Gross..sometime between 1930 and 1944 she married a Mr. O.W. Gross and the advidavit was signed in Lawrence Misouri so that is where I have started my search...on August 3rd, 1944 when the Advidavit was signed by Mrs. O.W. Gross was 30 years of age and she stated she was my mother's mother.. the original delayed birth certificate was signed by a James G Hoover who at the time was the (Notary Public or Other Official Empowered to execute Oath) so this is the information I have hope this helps you.. Sam Bowman On Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:09:44 -0400 "Ross Cameron" <ross.cameron@arch2.nara.gov> writes: > Sam, > > I am guessing that the information below comes from his Social > Security records. Have you ordered a copy of his birth certificate > from the State Vital Records Office in Jefferson City? > > I did not find any surname Gross or similar spelling in the index to > the 1920 Lawrence Co. census.Have you checked the 1920 Census > Soundex for Missouri for Gross? > > I also did not find the surname Gross in the indexes for the 3 > volumes of The Ozark Region: Its History and Its People which is a > primarily a history of Lawrence County with the most of the 2nd > volume and all of the third being Lawrence County biographical > sketches. > > I also did not find the surname Gross in Ruth Browning's Southwest > Missouri Newspaper Abstracts, Vol. 27, Aurora Advertiser, 7 Jan > 1915-23 May 1918 nor in her earlier abstracts of this newspaper back > to 1908. Later issues of this newspaper and other Lawence County > newspapers from this time period on microfilm are available at the > McCanse library in Mount Vernon and at the State Historical Society > of Missouri in Columbia. The SHSM also will interlibrary loan the > newspaper microfilm. > > Also, do you have a copy of the marriage record of Mr. Gross and > Claudia Mills from the Office of the Recorder at the courthouse in > Mt. Vernon? It might list towns of residence at the time of the > marriage. > > Ross Cameron > > >>> <sbowman1@juno.com> 04/10 11:39 PM >>> > Looking for any informatiion on a Wiliam Gross ssn# 495-03-8941 > birth: 15 Mar 1916 death: Jun 1986 birth place Lawrence MO > which is now Mount Vernon area.. it's possible he may be my > grandfather..I'd like info on who he was married to etc.. any > info would be appreciated thank you.. > Sam Bowman > mailto:sbowman1@juno.com > > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > >

    04/11/2000 05:14:13
    1. Re: [MOLAWREN-L] [MOLAWREN] William Gross
    2. Ross Cameron
    3. Sam, I am guessing that the information below comes from his Social Security records. Have you ordered a copy of his birth certificate from the State Vital Records Office in Jefferson City? I did not find any surname Gross or similar spelling in the index to the 1920 Lawrence Co. census.Have you checked the 1920 Census Soundex for Missouri for Gross? I also did not find the surname Gross in the indexes for the 3 volumes of The Ozark Region: Its History and Its People which is a primarily a history of Lawrence County with the most of the 2nd volume and all of the third being Lawrence County biographical sketches. I also did not find the surname Gross in Ruth Browning's Southwest Missouri Newspaper Abstracts, Vol. 27, Aurora Advertiser, 7 Jan 1915-23 May 1918 nor in her earlier abstracts of this newspaper back to 1908. Later issues of this newspaper and other Lawence County newspapers from this time period on microfilm are available at the McCanse library in Mount Vernon and at the State Historical Society of Missouri in Columbia. The SHSM also will interlibrary loan the newspaper microfilm. Also, do you have a copy of the marriage record of Mr. Gross and Claudia Mills from the Office of the Recorder at the courthouse in Mt. Vernon? It might list towns of residence at the time of the marriage. Ross Cameron >>> <sbowman1@juno.com> 04/10 11:39 PM >>> Looking for any informatiion on a Wiliam Gross ssn# 495-03-8941 birth: 15 Mar 1916 death: Jun 1986 birth place Lawrence MO which is now Mount Vernon area.. it's possible he may be my grandfather..I'd like info on who he was married to etc.. any info would be appreciated thank you.. Sam Bowman mailto:sbowman1@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

    04/11/2000 03:09:44
    1. Re: [MOLAWREN-L] Sampson WRIGHT?
    2. In a message dated 4/10/00 6:09:50 PM !!!First Boot!!!, WBLanders@aol.com writes: << Anyone searching Sampson Wright?? >> I, too, have wondered about Sampson Wright because I have been searching for the father of my gg-grandmother Narcissa Wright who married Francis M. Jennings in 1854. I recently learned, though, that her father was Thomas Anthony Wright who probably died in Conway Co., AR after 1850. Her brother James Tyrie Wright was living in Polk Co. in 1855 and Lawrence Co. (Mt. Vernon twp) in 1860 with his wife Mary and 6 children. He was killed by bushwackers in Arkansas in 1862. This particular Wright family comes from a HUGE contingent of Wrights from Bedford and Franklin Co., VA. I do know that Sampson Wright was not part of the immediate family, but I do not know if he was connected otherwise. Barbara Berry Meger

    04/11/2000 02:50:45
    1. [MOLAWREN-L] [MOLAWREN] William Gross
    2. Looking for any informatiion on a Wiliam Gross ssn# 495-03-8941 birth: 15 Mar 1916 death: Jun 1986 birth place Lawrence MO which is now Mount Vernon area.. it's possible he may be my grandfather..I'd like info on who he was married to etc.. any info would be appreciated thank you.. Sam Bowman mailto:sbowman1@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

    04/10/2000 02:30:43
    1. [MOLAWREN-L] Sampson WRIGHT?
    2. Anyone searching Sampson Wright?? He was in Spring River Twp., Barry Co. in 1840 with 2 sons, 10 to15 and 15 to 20. In 1844 and 1845 Sampson Wright made several purchases of government land near what was to become the county seat, Mount Vernon. In 1850 Sampson b c 1792 VA, Elizabeth c 1793 KY, Joseph 23 MO (10 to 15 in 1840) lived next door to W.S.M. 28 MO (15 to 20 in 1840) In 1850 Sampson Wright owned slaves. And, an enormous acreage. (unless, W.S.M. was Sampson Jr and made some of the purchases.) Missouri Marriages before 1840 by Susan Ormesher: Sampson Wright to Elizabeth Mullins 25 Oct 1821 Howard Co. MO. In 1830: a Sampson Wright was enumerated in Boone Co. MO. Then, before the 1860 census, this family was gone, no probate record, no burial. At least I have found no other mention. I have no family connection, just an interest in the names: Sampson and Wright! Thanks for reading to this point. bill

    04/10/2000 08:07:36
    1. Re: [MOLAWREN-L] Did Anyone On This List know the LONES of Aurora, MO?
    2. Diane Caudle
    3. you're welcome :) Diane At 08:05 AM 4/10/00 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Diane, > >Yes, this was Cecil Lone, Wilbur's brother. He had no children, and I >knew that he had been seriously sick, and am not surprised to learn that >he had died. Thank you so much for sharing this bit of information. > >Jean > > >At 09:34 AM 4/10/00 -0400, you wrote: >>Hi Jean, >> >>I did a search on ancestry.com and it found this in a Social Secuity search: >> >>CECIL LONE >> >>SSN 489-24-9006 Residence: 29212 Columbia, Lexington, SC >>Born 21 Jun 1925 Last Benefit: >>Died 10 Feb 2000 Issued: MO (Before 1951) >> >>This may or may not be the same Cecil but I see SS issued in a SS# in >>Missouri at some time. >> >>And I found this in a directory search on Ancestry.com: >> >> >>CECIL L LONE 7436 PINEDALE DR COLUMBIA SC 29223 4850 (803) 788-5264 >> >>Good luck, >> >>Diane >> >> >> >> >> >>At 06:04 PM 4/9/00 -0400, you wrote: >> >Good Evening, >> > >> >I have in my possession a tin box filled with old photographs which >> belonged to my step-father, Wilbur Ray Lone, before his death. Mother >> died a year ago, and I would like to locate some of Wilbur's relatives >> who might value these photos. I don't recall Wilbur's father's name, >> but his brothers were Cecil & Richard LONE, and his sister was Dora >> LONE, but she later married. I believe she may have died in Alaska when >> there was a catastrophe there in the 70's. She disappeared, and never >> returned to claim her portion of the estates of her parents at their >> death, so she was presumed to have died somewhere. I do know that his >> brother Richard is dead, because he died before Wilbur. >> > >> >Wilbur's mother attended a Penticostal church in Aurora, but I don't >> know what denomination or the name of the church. He once told me that >> he was related to many of the folks in Aurora, and I cannot recall the >> names he mentioned. >> > >> > From what I have been told, the family all had burial plots together >> in a cemetery in Aurora. Wilbur died at Boliver, MO, in 1998, I believe, >> and he was returned to be buried with his family in Aurora. >> > >> >Does anyone know anything about relatives of this family? Your help >> would be appreciated. >> > >> >Thanks, >> > >> >Jean Mayfield Cuevas >> >>Genealogically examining the ANDERSONS, BECKS, COLLEYS, MICHEL and JONES >>of Missouri Genealogically examining the ANDERSONS, BECKS, COLLEYS, MICHEL and JONES of Missouri

    04/10/2000 05:12:24
    1. Re: [MOLAWREN-L] Did Anyone On This List know the LONES of Aurora, MO?
    2. Diane Caudle
    3. Nora, Most of my Becks came from Germany to Cabarrus County, NC then to AR and then MO where they stayed. Thanks, Diane At 08:51 AM 4/10/00 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Diane, >Notice you are researching Becks. Are any of yours from SC, Ga. & Covington >Co., Ala? >Nora Eden >----- Original Message ----- >From: Diane Caudle <diamond@vnet.net> >To: <MOLAWREN-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 6:34 AM >Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] Did Anyone On This List know the LONES of Aurora, >MO? > > > > Hi Jean, > > > > I did a search on ancestry.com and it found this in a Social Secuity >search: > > > > CECIL LONE > > > > SSN 489-24-9006 Residence: 29212 Columbia, Lexington, SC > > Born 21 Jun 1925 Last Benefit: > > Died 10 Feb 2000 Issued: MO (Before 1951) > > > > This may or may not be the same Cecil but I see SS issued in a SS# in >Missouri at some time. > > > > And I found this in a directory search on Ancestry.com: > > > > > > CECIL L LONE 7436 PINEDALE DR COLUMBIA SC 29223 4850 (803) 788-5264 > > > > Good luck, > > > > Diane > > > > > > > > > > > > At 06:04 PM 4/9/00 -0400, you wrote: > > >Good Evening, > > > > > >I have in my possession a tin box filled with old photographs which >belonged to my step-father, Wilbur Ray Lone, before his death. Mother died >a year ago, and I would like to locate some of Wilbur's relatives who might >value these photos. I don't recall Wilbur's father's name, but his >brothers were Cecil & Richard LONE, and his sister was Dora LONE, but she >later married. I believe she may have died in Alaska when there was a >catastrophe there in the 70's. She disappeared, and never returned to claim >her portion of the estates of her parents at their death, so she was >presumed to have died somewhere. I do know that his brother Richard is dead, >because he died before Wilbur. > > > > > >Wilbur's mother attended a Penticostal church in Aurora, but I don't know >what denomination or the name of the church. He once told me that he was >related to many of the folks in Aurora, and I cannot recall the names he >mentioned. > > > > > > From what I have been told, the family all had burial plots together in >a cemetery in Aurora. Wilbur died at Boliver, MO, in 1998, I believe, and he >was returned to be buried with his family in Aurora. > > > > > >Does anyone know anything about relatives of this family? Your help >would be appreciated. > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > >Jean Mayfield Cuevas > > > > Genealogically examining the ANDERSONS, BECKS, COLLEYS, MICHEL and JONES >of Missouri > > > > Genealogically examining the ANDERSONS, BECKS, COLLEYS, MICHEL and JONES of Missouri

    04/10/2000 04:08:22
    1. Re: [MOLAWREN-L] Did Anyone On This List know the LONES of Aurora, MO?
    2. Diane Caudle
    3. Hi Jean, I did a search on ancestry.com and it found this in a Social Secuity search: CECIL LONE SSN 489-24-9006 Residence: 29212 Columbia, Lexington, SC Born 21 Jun 1925 Last Benefit: Died 10 Feb 2000 Issued: MO (Before 1951) This may or may not be the same Cecil but I see SS issued in a SS# in Missouri at some time. And I found this in a directory search on Ancestry.com: CECIL L LONE 7436 PINEDALE DR COLUMBIA SC 29223 4850 (803) 788-5264 Good luck, Diane At 06:04 PM 4/9/00 -0400, you wrote: >Good Evening, > >I have in my possession a tin box filled with old photographs which belonged to my step-father, Wilbur Ray Lone, before his death. Mother died a year ago, and I would like to locate some of Wilbur's relatives who might value these photos. I don't recall Wilbur's father's name, but his brothers were Cecil & Richard LONE, and his sister was Dora LONE, but she later married. I believe she may have died in Alaska when there was a catastrophe there in the 70's. She disappeared, and never returned to claim her portion of the estates of her parents at their death, so she was presumed to have died somewhere. I do know that his brother Richard is dead, because he died before Wilbur. > >Wilbur's mother attended a Penticostal church in Aurora, but I don't know what denomination or the name of the church. He once told me that he was related to many of the folks in Aurora, and I cannot recall the names he mentioned. > > From what I have been told, the family all had burial plots together in a cemetery in Aurora. Wilbur died at Boliver, MO, in 1998, I believe, and he was returned to be buried with his family in Aurora. > >Does anyone know anything about relatives of this family? Your help would be appreciated. > >Thanks, > >Jean Mayfield Cuevas Genealogically examining the ANDERSONS, BECKS, COLLEYS, MICHEL and JONES of Missouri

    04/10/2000 03:34:35
    1. Re: [MOLAWREN-L] Did Anyone On This List know the LONES of Aurora, MO?
    2. Nora Eden
    3. Hi Diane, Notice you are researching Becks. Are any of yours from SC, Ga. & Covington Co., Ala? Nora Eden ----- Original Message ----- From: Diane Caudle <diamond@vnet.net> To: <MOLAWREN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 6:34 AM Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] Did Anyone On This List know the LONES of Aurora, MO? > Hi Jean, > > I did a search on ancestry.com and it found this in a Social Secuity search: > > CECIL LONE > > SSN 489-24-9006 Residence: 29212 Columbia, Lexington, SC > Born 21 Jun 1925 Last Benefit: > Died 10 Feb 2000 Issued: MO (Before 1951) > > This may or may not be the same Cecil but I see SS issued in a SS# in Missouri at some time. > > And I found this in a directory search on Ancestry.com: > > > CECIL L LONE 7436 PINEDALE DR COLUMBIA SC 29223 4850 (803) 788-5264 > > Good luck, > > Diane > > > > > > At 06:04 PM 4/9/00 -0400, you wrote: > >Good Evening, > > > >I have in my possession a tin box filled with old photographs which belonged to my step-father, Wilbur Ray Lone, before his death. Mother died a year ago, and I would like to locate some of Wilbur's relatives who might value these photos. I don't recall Wilbur's father's name, but his brothers were Cecil & Richard LONE, and his sister was Dora LONE, but she later married. I believe she may have died in Alaska when there was a catastrophe there in the 70's. She disappeared, and never returned to claim her portion of the estates of her parents at their death, so she was presumed to have died somewhere. I do know that his brother Richard is dead, because he died before Wilbur. > > > >Wilbur's mother attended a Penticostal church in Aurora, but I don't know what denomination or the name of the church. He once told me that he was related to many of the folks in Aurora, and I cannot recall the names he mentioned. > > > > From what I have been told, the family all had burial plots together in a cemetery in Aurora. Wilbur died at Boliver, MO, in 1998, I believe, and he was returned to be buried with his family in Aurora. > > > >Does anyone know anything about relatives of this family? Your help would be appreciated. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Jean Mayfield Cuevas > > Genealogically examining the ANDERSONS, BECKS, COLLEYS, MICHEL and JONES of Missouri > >

    04/10/2000 02:51:55
    1. Re: [MOLAWREN-L] Did Anyone On This List know the LONES of Aurora, MO?
    2. Jean Mayfield Cuevas
    3. Hi Diane, Yes, this was Cecil Lone, Wilbur's brother. He had no children, and I knew that he had been seriously sick, and am not surprised to learn that he had died. Thank you so much for sharing this bit of information. Jean At 09:34 AM 4/10/00 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Jean, > >I did a search on ancestry.com and it found this in a Social Secuity search: > >CECIL LONE > >SSN 489-24-9006 Residence: 29212 Columbia, Lexington, SC >Born 21 Jun 1925 Last Benefit: >Died 10 Feb 2000 Issued: MO (Before 1951) > >This may or may not be the same Cecil but I see SS issued in a SS# in >Missouri at some time. > >And I found this in a directory search on Ancestry.com: > > >CECIL L LONE 7436 PINEDALE DR COLUMBIA SC 29223 4850 (803) 788-5264 > >Good luck, > >Diane > > > > > >At 06:04 PM 4/9/00 -0400, you wrote: > >Good Evening, > > > >I have in my possession a tin box filled with old photographs which > belonged to my step-father, Wilbur Ray Lone, before his death. Mother > died a year ago, and I would like to locate some of Wilbur's relatives > who might value these photos. I don't recall Wilbur's father's name, > but his brothers were Cecil & Richard LONE, and his sister was Dora LONE, > but she later married. I believe she may have died in Alaska when there > was a catastrophe there in the 70's. She disappeared, and never returned > to claim her portion of the estates of her parents at their death, so she > was presumed to have died somewhere. I do know that his brother Richard > is dead, because he died before Wilbur. > > > >Wilbur's mother attended a Penticostal church in Aurora, but I don't > know what denomination or the name of the church. He once told me that > he was related to many of the folks in Aurora, and I cannot recall the > names he mentioned. > > > > From what I have been told, the family all had burial plots together in > a cemetery in Aurora. Wilbur died at Boliver, MO, in 1998, I believe, and > he was returned to be buried with his family in Aurora. > > > >Does anyone know anything about relatives of this family? Your help > would be appreciated. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Jean Mayfield Cuevas > >Genealogically examining the ANDERSONS, BECKS, COLLEYS, MICHEL and JONES >of Missouri

    04/10/2000 02:05:49
    1. RE: [MOLAWREN-L] Missing ADAMSON from Lawrence Co
    2. Kay Haden
    3. I absolutely agree that Mollie Eaton Adamson is not in the running. I did send you another email about information that my Adamson family may have been in Benton Co AR in 1900. The data sent to me from the Soundex CD is fairly conclusive in itself, based on names, ages, places of birth, but I want to see the Census for the "rest of the story". It appears there is a relationship to your Ed Adamson - of a cousinly sort - so we may have a common ancestor a couple of generations further back. Once I've viewed that Census and exchanged with Jerry Adamson about the exact connection, I'll let you know. Kay > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Adamson [mailto:steve.a@Home.com] > Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2000 6:56 PM > To: MOLAWREN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] Missing ADAMSON from Lawrence Co > > > Mary C. Eaton was b 1847, probably in Polk Co., MO, and married Ed > Adamson 26 Mar 1888. In 1884, when Ray Weymouth was born, she was > probably still in Polk Co. and was not yet an Adamson. I heard a lot of > stories about her from my grandparents, my father, and his > siblings--almost none of them favorable, and--by absence of any comment > to the contrary--I assume that (a) she was not previously married, and > (b) she had no children by Ed or anyone else up to 1901. I also assume > that she went back to Polk Co. in 1901 after he died. Sorry, but I > think she's a pretty unlikely candidate for your Mary. > Steve Adamson >

    04/09/2000 01:27:19
    1. [MOLAWREN-L] Did Anyone On This List know the LONES of Aurora, MO?
    2. Jean Mayfield Cuevas
    3. Good Evening, I have in my possession a tin box filled with old photographs which belonged to my step-father, Wilbur Ray Lone, before his death. Mother died a year ago, and I would like to locate some of Wilbur's relatives who might value these photos. I don't recall Wilbur's father's name, but his brothers were Cecil & Richard LONE, and his sister was Dora LONE, but she later married. I believe she may have died in Alaska when there was a catastrophe there in the 70's. She disappeared, and never returned to claim her portion of the estates of her parents at their death, so she was presumed to have died somewhere. I do know that his brother Richard is dead, because he died before Wilbur. Wilbur's mother attended a Penticostal church in Aurora, but I don't know what denomination or the name of the church. He once told me that he was related to many of the folks in Aurora, and I cannot recall the names he mentioned. From what I have been told, the family all had burial plots together in a cemetery in Aurora. Wilbur died at Boliver, MO, in 1998, I believe, and he was returned to be buried with his family in Aurora. Does anyone know anything about relatives of this family? Your help would be appreciated. Thanks, Jean Mayfield Cuevas

    04/09/2000 12:04:08
    1. Re: [MOLAWREN-L] Missing ADAMSON from Lawrence Co
    2. Steve Adamson
    3. Mary C. Eaton was b 1847, probably in Polk Co., MO, and married Ed Adamson 26 Mar 1888. In 1884, when Ray Weymouth was born, she was probably still in Polk Co. and was not yet an Adamson. I heard a lot of stories about her from my grandparents, my father, and his siblings--almost none of them favorable, and--by absence of any comment to the contrary--I assume that (a) she was not previously married, and (b) she had no children by Ed or anyone else up to 1901. I also assume that she went back to Polk Co. in 1901 after he died. Sorry, but I think she's a pretty unlikely candidate for your Mary. Steve Adamson

    04/09/2000 10:56:17
    1. RE: [MOLAWREN-L] Missing ADAMSON from Lawrence Co
    2. Kay Haden
    3. Steve, Good to hear from you with such good information. Please tell me just a bit more. There's one thing you did not mention that I had seen from the mail list archives. In a post you said Ed Adamson did marry again after Elender died - he married a woman (some younger I think) named Mollie Eaton. Mollie is almost always a nickname for Mary, hence she was likely Mary E. Adamson. He died in 1901 so she would definitely have been a widow in 1910. Did she stay in Lawrence Co? What happened to her after his death? Obviously Ed was buried with his first wife and his children may have resented their stepmother - certainly not uncommon. I'm aware the dates don't match exactly but dates from censuses are wrong as often as they are correct and they are close. Did they have children together or did she bring children to the marriage? I have other family lines where men fathered children by their younger 2nd or 3rd wives up into their 70's. Again, regarding a different family, I read a story where a descendant of a first wife, like yourself, "missed" an entire second family for 20 years - didn't even find the 2nd marriage - mostly because he just didn't think about it and didn't look! Again, thanks for your info! "Negative" research eliminates wasted time - at least you know to go on to something else. The one thing that keeps me looking in Lawrence Co is that "Pierce City" reference - so often on birth/death certificates one finds just the name of a state. In a rural society, I would guess the Pierce City reference could be more of a location than a actual birthplace; that's where the folks in the area went to town on Saturday. K. > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Adamson [mailto:steve.a@Home.com] > Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2000 2:42 AM > To: MOLAWREN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] Missing ADAMSON from Lawrence Co > > > I understand your frustration, Kay, but I'm afraid I can't punch any > holes in your Lawrence Co., MO, brick wall. You may get some ideas from > the following, though. > > Ed and Elender Adamson were my ggrandparents, and all of your > deductions about > them are correct. There were actually nine male offspring, five of whom > lived to adulthood (Sturlen, Lemuel, Judson, John and Edward), and none > fathered Ray Weymouth Adamson. Additionally, I know of no one in my > line who lived in either Pierce City or Arkansas, and no Ray Weymouth, > George, Mary E. or Clair. > > Going back a generation--Ed was one of nine children of Simon Wells > Adamson, and came to near Brighton, Polk Co., MO in the early 1840s from > near Liberty, TN (then in Wilson Co., but now in Dekalb Co.). He and > Elender came to Lawrence Co. in October 1849. Of Ed's eight siblings, > four (Cynthia [Adams], William, Lemuel, and Olivia [Hancock]) migrated > to Freestone and Limestone Co., TX. William had two sons and Lemuel > one--all born and died in Texas. > > One of Ed's siblings (Nancy Melissa [Walker]) settled near Ozark, MO; > one (Thomas Bethel) lived in Iowa after the Civil War, died in Billings, > Greene Co., MO in 1893 at the age of 56, and to my knowledge had no > children; and two (Joseph Harrison, b. 1831, and Sarah Ann, b. 1833) are > unaccounted for after 1840 in my records. > > I believe that covers everyone in Ed's family who might have fathered > Ray Weymouth Adamson. But let's go back to the American beginning, and > perhaps give you some ideas as to where to look. > > Our Adamsons were Quakers who settled in Haddonfield, NJ and Bucks Co., > PA in the late 1600s-early 1700s. John Adamson, my ggggggrandfather, > married Ann Skuce in 1716 at the Haddonfield Meeting. John may have > been Welsh, because I understand that the Haddonfield Meeting was > predominately Welsh Quakers, and Ann may have been Swedish--the > granddaughter of Sven Skute, who was granted land in the 1650s in what > is now south Philadelphia by Queen Christina of Sweden. > > John and Ann had seven children. The eldest was Thomas and the youngest > Simon. Ann died in childbirth having Simon in 1733. I believe many > present-day Adamson lines in the northern part of the U.S. come from > Thomas, whose descendants went to western PA, OH, IN, IL, IA, NE, and > the Pacific Northwest. I have, in fact, made connections with Adamsons > in Idaho, Kansas and Nebraska who were my seventh and eighth > cousins--descendants of Thomas. > > Simon migrated to North Carolina, where there was a large Quaker > population. I believe he may have had as many as seven sons. The > eldest, Jesse T. Adamson, was born in 1758/59. He married Mary Wells in > the late 1770s; through Quaker meeting records, we can trace their > migration from North Carolina westward to what is now Middle Tennessee, > as well as note the birth of their seven (?) children--five of whom were > male. Simon Wells, Ed Adamson's father, was one of these. > > I have not done much work on the Adamsons before Ed, so I don't know > where Simon Wells' male siblings went--if anywhere--from Middle > Tennessee. (By the way--the Quaker aspect of my ancestors seems to have > ended with Jesse T.'s generation, inasmuch as Simon Wells owned slaves > when he died in the late 1830s.) > > But maybe you and I are not related at all. A contemporary of John's > was John Baldwin Adamson, who was granted land in Maryland by Lord > Baltimore in the late 1600s-early 1700s. John Baldwin had a brother? > son? named Basil, one of whose sons was Greenberry Adamson (I love that > name!), who went down south--South Carolina?--and whose descendents > populate the Deep South--Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, some into > Tennessee, Kentucky, Texas, maybe Arkansas--with Adamsons whom I believe > are not related to my line. > > I haven't been at this for very long, so I don't have any grand schemes > to offer you--just keep on digging into (for example) Pierce City land > and tax records for both Adamsons and Weymouths; tell your story on the > Adamson, Weymouth, Crawford Co., AR and Lawrence Co., MO web sites; and > don't get discouraged! (Others more experienced than I will also offer > good suggestions, I'm sure.) >

    04/09/2000 01:40:55
    1. [MOLAWREN-L] [MOLAWREN] William Gross
    2. Lookin for any info on William Gross born 15 March 1916 and died Jun 1986. He was Born in Lawrence MO Mount Vernon area.. the info I am looking for is who was he married too.. for it's possible he is my Grandfather.. I beleive he is the Mr. O.W. Gross I am looking for.. he may have been married to a Claudia Gross.. not sure.. any info would be appreciated thanks Sam Bowman ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

    04/08/2000 08:31:12
    1. Re: [MOLAWREN-L] Missing ADAMSON from Lawrence Co
    2. Steve Adamson
    3. I understand your frustration, Kay, but I'm afraid I can't punch any holes in your Lawrence Co., MO, brick wall. You may get some ideas from the following, though. Ed and Elender Adamson were my ggrandparents, and all of your deductions about them are correct. There were actually nine male offspring, five of whom lived to adulthood (Sturlen, Lemuel, Judson, John and Edward), and none fathered Ray Weymouth Adamson. Additionally, I know of no one in my line who lived in either Pierce City or Arkansas, and no Ray Weymouth, George, Mary E. or Clair. Going back a generation--Ed was one of nine children of Simon Wells Adamson, and came to near Brighton, Polk Co., MO in the early 1840s from near Liberty, TN (then in Wilson Co., but now in Dekalb Co.). He and Elender came to Lawrence Co. in October 1849. Of Ed's eight siblings, four (Cynthia [Adams], William, Lemuel, and Olivia [Hancock]) migrated to Freestone and Limestone Co., TX. William had two sons and Lemuel one--all born and died in Texas. One of Ed's siblings (Nancy Melissa [Walker]) settled near Ozark, MO; one (Thomas Bethel) lived in Iowa after the Civil War, died in Billings, Greene Co., MO in 1893 at the age of 56, and to my knowledge had no children; and two (Joseph Harrison, b. 1831, and Sarah Ann, b. 1833) are unaccounted for after 1840 in my records. I believe that covers everyone in Ed's family who might have fathered Ray Weymouth Adamson. But let's go back to the American beginning, and perhaps give you some ideas as to where to look. Our Adamsons were Quakers who settled in Haddonfield, NJ and Bucks Co., PA in the late 1600s-early 1700s. John Adamson, my ggggggrandfather, married Ann Skuce in 1716 at the Haddonfield Meeting. John may have been Welsh, because I understand that the Haddonfield Meeting was predominately Welsh Quakers, and Ann may have been Swedish--the granddaughter of Sven Skute, who was granted land in the 1650s in what is now south Philadelphia by Queen Christina of Sweden. John and Ann had seven children. The eldest was Thomas and the youngest Simon. Ann died in childbirth having Simon in 1733. I believe many present-day Adamson lines in the northern part of the U.S. come from Thomas, whose descendants went to western PA, OH, IN, IL, IA, NE, and the Pacific Northwest. I have, in fact, made connections with Adamsons in Idaho, Kansas and Nebraska who were my seventh and eighth cousins--descendants of Thomas. Simon migrated to North Carolina, where there was a large Quaker population. I believe he may have had as many as seven sons. The eldest, Jesse T. Adamson, was born in 1758/59. He married Mary Wells in the late 1770s; through Quaker meeting records, we can trace their migration from North Carolina westward to what is now Middle Tennessee, as well as note the birth of their seven (?) children--five of whom were male. Simon Wells, Ed Adamson's father, was one of these. I have not done much work on the Adamsons before Ed, so I don't know where Simon Wells' male siblings went--if anywhere--from Middle Tennessee. (By the way--the Quaker aspect of my ancestors seems to have ended with Jesse T.'s generation, inasmuch as Simon Wells owned slaves when he died in the late 1830s.) But maybe you and I are not related at all. A contemporary of John's was John Baldwin Adamson, who was granted land in Maryland by Lord Baltimore in the late 1600s-early 1700s. John Baldwin had a brother? son? named Basil, one of whose sons was Greenberry Adamson (I love that name!), who went down south--South Carolina?--and whose descendents populate the Deep South--Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, some into Tennessee, Kentucky, Texas, maybe Arkansas--with Adamsons whom I believe are not related to my line. I haven't been at this for very long, so I don't have any grand schemes to offer you--just keep on digging into (for example) Pierce City land and tax records for both Adamsons and Weymouths; tell your story on the Adamson, Weymouth, Crawford Co., AR and Lawrence Co., MO web sites; and don't get discouraged! (Others more experienced than I will also offer good suggestions, I'm sure.)

    04/08/2000 06:42:16
    1. [MOLAWREN-L] Missing ADAMSON from Lawrence Co
    2. Kay Haden
    3. I've just joined your mail list and bring a mystery! I have a brick wall that seems to extend into Lawrence County and I'm looking for any help, suggestions, etc. as I've had no previous reason to research in this county. I hope someone on the list can suggest possible substitutes for the 1890 census. I do know from the mail list archives that there seem to be a few researchers of the ADAMSON surname in the county. My father's birth certificate says that his father was Ray Weymouth Adamson, born in Pierce City, Missouri, in 1884. Occupation said to be "Bridgeman". I am trying to identify Ray Adamson's parents. Here is what I've found so far. In the 1910 US Census for Crawford Co, Arkansas. Mary E. Adamson, widow, age 58 & born in Indiana, is head of household with sons Ray W. age 25, born in Missouri, and Clair D. (I think "Clair" as it's very difficult to read) age 17, born in Arkansas. Ray is listed as a carpenter. They live in the same household with the family of Elisha S. & Edith J. Harrison in the town of Chester. Elisha is 59 and Edith 55 - no relationship to them is stated but I thought at first perhaps Mary E. could be sister to one of them. Research has identified the families of both Elisha S. Harrison and Edith J. Irwin and she is not a sister to either although both were from large complex families and there could be a multitude of cousins. It would appear Mary E. and Mr. ??? Adamson had moved to Arkansas sometime between 1884 when Ray was born and 1893 when Clair was born. Mary E. stated she had given birth to 7 children, but only 4 were living - 2 of these identified as above. There are no other Adamsons in the county that could be additional sons. Ten years later in 1920, living in the household of Elisha & Edith Harrison is Ray W. Adamson, son-in-law, age 35, born in Missouri. Now a Rig Builder, Oil Field. His wife is Mary Mae, the youngest daughter of Elisha & Edith, and they have a daughter and two sons, the middle child of which is a son, Weymouth, age 4 1/2. The birth certificate of my father reveals this is he - his name was Weymouth Donald Adamson, but was unexplainably called "Ernie" as a grown man. No Mary E. Adamson, or Clair Adamson in the county in 1920. No cemetery or death record for Mary E. Adamson to be found. In 1900, this Adamson family was not found in Crawford County. There was a George Adamson living in a distant township throughout this time period from 1900-1920 but there's no clue of relationship. Too old to be another son of Mary E. Too young to be a father-in-law. Going back to Pierce City, Lawrence Co MO in hopes of finding clues to the family of Ray Weymouth Adamson, I've found the following. In 1880 there was an Adamson family in the Census in Ozark Township: Ed, age 55, and Elender, age 50. Their child bearing days could be assumed to be over. Among their children are Sterling, age 30 (b.1850), and Lemuel, age 19 (b.1861) - both single but of an age to be married and be a father to Ray Weymouth Adamson by 1884. There was also in Pierce Township, a family with the surname Weymoth. Of course neither of Ray Weymouth's parents were born yet in 1880. You'll agree "Weymouth" is not your everyday given name. A visit to the mail list archives revealed a few Adamson marriages but none listed were between 1880-1885 except for one that appears to be Lemuel Adamson to Alice Harshbarger in 1883 & their graves listed in Hopewell Cemetery. Since he married an Alice this seems to eliminate the above Lemuel. In Gum cemetery were listed a Sturlen Adamson and a son's grave listing the wife & mother as Sarah A. So apparently Sterling Adamson marred a Sarah A, thereby eliminating both of the boys listed with Ed & Ellender Adamson in 1880 unless there's additional information. I also found an abstract of the family of Ed & Elender from the 1870 Census - at that time there was a son Charles W. age 11 (b. 1859). I found a cemetery record in Gum cemetery - born Oct 1858 & died Mar 1875, so he died too young to be a father candidate for Ray Weymouth Adamson. There wasn't another Adamson that I can find in 1880 in Lawrence Co. The listing of Ed & Elender's children from 1870 doesn't suggest any other possible father candidates. Brick Wall - unless I'm missing something. I have no family stories or traditions to help out here. I was adopted by my stepfather before age 6 and have only recently had enough information to begin to ferret out my birth father's family. If you read through this, you have my appreciation! Thanks for any clues. Kay Haden mailto:khaden@mindspring.com

    04/08/2000 05:12:18
    1. Re: [MOLAWREN-L] re Mayberry, Maberry, Mabry, etc. and Moore
    2. Ross Cameron
    3. Nancy, Yes, you are right about the John C. L. Maberry being another son. I should have stated more precisely that I had only found one child so far. And I think there may have been a third child, too, which I will discuss a little later in this message. I have been concentrating on identifying the people in Lawrence County records with the surname of Moore and have not yet started tracking down those descendants with a different surname, that is, children of Moore daughters who married [except in my Moore families]. At this point I am just trying to identify all the Moores and get them into families. So I had not checked all the Maberry records and was primarily using the probate file, as you suggest, and also a biographical sketch. The biographical sketch of William M. Watterson in the 1974 History states "His third wife was Mary J. (Moore) Maberry (b. 1835 - d. 1921), from Tennessee, who was the mother of two sons: T. Henderson Maberry (b. 30 Oct. 1858); and Charles Alexander Watterson (b. 21 Aug. 1866)." Thomas Henderson Maberry's sketch does not mention any siblings either. It should have said "two sons who lived to maturity" but it is likely that the writer of the sketch didn't know about the other Maberry child(ren). The Watterson article also says that he only had one son by his first wife, but there are two boys living in his household in the 1860 census, George W., 10 (the named son) and James L., 7 (unnamed in the biography). Also, in Thomas Henderson Maberry's sketch it says his mother Mary Jane (Moore) Maberry Watterson died in Feb. 1920 rather than 1921 as in the Watterson sketch. I could not find a tombstone inscription for her, so will have to research this further. This reinforces the warning to never depend on secondary sources, especially biographical sketches, for accurate information; always check the data in primary sources. According to the LCHS Tombstone Inscriptions, John C. L. Maberry is the earliest death dated stone in the cemetery. There may be earlier burials, but there are no stones or at least no earlier death date or no readable earlier death date. Now to the possible third Maberry child. In the LCHS volume is another broken stone between Lafayette and John C. L. Maberry which was transcribed as: _____ J. Maberry, Sept. 6, 1854 - Dec. 16, 1864. It does not indicate that this is a child of L. & M. J. Maberry, but that could be on the part broken off with the first name. Interestingly, Mary Curry in her volume of Lawrence County Tombstone Inscriptions also transcribed Chesapeake Campground Cemetery. Although she misspelled the name as Mayberry, she transcribed the broken stone as: Mayberry, (broken) J. 6 Sep 1854 16 Dec 1854. Because it is easy to misread "5" and "6" on stones, it is possible that this is another child who only lived a few months. This child does not show up in the 1860 census. Also, this child would be a quite likely birth between John C. L. in 1852 and Thomas Henderson in 1858. I have not researched the Maberry family, so this could also be a child of another member of Lafayette's family. There is a one year old son Thomas in the household of Lafayette's parents, John and Sally (Williams) Maberry. It is also possible that this child could be a child of theirs born after the 1850 census or a child of one of Lafayette's brothers. Lafayette, Mary Jane, and Thomas are the only persons surnamed Maberry (spelled Mabry by the census taker) identified in the index of the published 1860 Lawrence Co. census. I haven't checked on where the John & Sally and the rest of the family were in 1860. There are also a couple of Moore stones in with the Moore family with names and dates that I have not yet proven are connected to this Moore family, though I think it is very likely that they are members of it. It may be a case of difficulty correctly reading dates on badly deteriorated tombstones. I haven't been to Campground, but may have to stop there when I am in Missouri next time or the time after. Between John C. L. Maberry and his uncle, Alexander A. Moore, are two stones which are transcribed in the LCHS volume as: Margaret C. J. Moore, Oct. 23, 1835-Sept. 19, 1857 Mary J. E. Moore, Feb. (16?), 18(53?)-.....eroded..7 Curry transcribed them as: Margaret C. Moore 23 Oct 1855 19 Sep 1857 Mary J. E. Moore 16 Feb 1863 23 Oct 1887 If Curry is right about the dates for Margaret and the 1835 should be 1855, then she was born and died between censuses and that explains why I don't find her in a family in the 1850 census. And if LCHS is right about Mary J. E.'s birth year of 1853 and she died in 1857 instead of 1887, then she also would have been born and died between censuses. Also, both girls would have died at about the same time. I think that these are very likely daughters of Alexander A. and Nancy J. Moore. They are buried right beside Alexander and Nancy and their other daughter, Nancy Ellen, is buried on the other side of mother Nancy. I don't know if they are in the same lot or not, but they probably are. The reason I believe this may be true is not only the suggested changes in the reading of the tombstones and the placement of the stones, but also in the 1900 Census, Nancy J. Moore, Alexander's widow, states that she had 4 children, only two of whom are living and there is no record of her ever remarrying. Since there were only two children living at Alexander's death on 1 Nov. 1862: Nancy Ellen Moore, born 3 Apr 1859 and Franklin A. Moore, born ca. 1862, it is very likely that these two girls, Margaret C. J. (possibly Catherine Jane after her grandmother) and Mary J. E. are the two children who didn't live. I have not found a marriage record for Alexander and Nancy, but they are old enough to have been married soon after the 1850 census; Alexander was 24 in 1850 and Nancy was 16, if the dates of birth on their tombstones are correct. That is all for now. Have you tracked down the rest of the Maberry family in 1860? Ross Cameron >>> <APUND@aol.com> 04/05 9:34 PM >>> Ross, thank you so much for the information on the use of titles as names. I had never come across it before. The earlier spelling of General Lafayette Maberry's family name, at least in TN, seems to have been Mabry. And thanks for the information on the Moores. This really fills in a big hole. So three Moore siblings married two Williams siblings and a son of a third Williams sibling. You wrote: "General Lafayette Maberry and Mary Jane Moore had only one child." I thought that the infant, John C. L. Maberry, identified on his tombstone as "son of L. & M. J. Maberry," who lived from Oct to Dec. 1852, was likely a son of Lafayette. Were you going by the probate abstract and 1860 census? Thanks again. I really appreciate getting all this information. Nancy Pundsack

    04/06/2000 02:42:29
    1. [MOLAWREN-L] Hudspeth/Poindexter/Hill/Fortner/Whaley
    2. Hello Everyone, Well....After two years of trying to go back and back and back on my ancestors, I have now become obsessed with filling in collateral lines, whenever, where ever, for families in Dade and Lawrence Co.--no easy task from Virginia. Fortunately, several of you out there have helped immensely (Ross, Vicki, Jeanne), but I still have all these Williams and Marsh folks' spouses and families to figure out. And then a Hudspeth/Poindexter match pops up as ancestor of my Hill/Whaley/Gays/Fortners offspring etc. Here is my question....do any of you know where in the HUDSPETH family (which are all over my Dade AND Lawrence Co lines already) this Etta falls. According to Poindexter researchers, Etta Hudspeth was the wife of Robert Lee POINDEXTER, son of Joseph/Josiah and America (PARNELL) Poindexter (the latter couple lived in the southern part of Dade Co in the neighborhood of my Marsh/Sexton/Byrd/Choate lines). I don't have any dates, but since their son was born in 1894, I am assuming Etta and Robert Lee were born ca 1860s, 1870s. Their son, Aulcey Milford Poindexter married Celia Mabel HILL, d/o "Lon" Hill and Oren Ella (FORTNER) Hill. Lon was brother to my grandmother Marguerite Louisa Hill, d/o Hugh Lawson White Hill and Sarah ET "Tennie" (GAY) Hill. His wife is a Fortner Cousin (4th)...Then, of course, so are all the Poindexters my cousins (7th or so :-)). Like a none SW Misourian who married one said..."you guys are ALL related to each other!"..this at get togethers in California. Thanks in advance, Janet (Baugh) Hunter

    04/05/2000 03:46:39
    1. [MOLAWREN-L] re Mayberry, Maberry, Mabry, etc. and Moore
    2. Ross, thank you so much for the information on the use of titles as names. I had never come across it before. The earlier spelling of General Lafayette Maberry's family name, at least in TN, seems to have been Mabry. And thanks for the information on the Moores. This really fills in a big hole. So three Moore siblings married two Williams siblings and a son of a third Williams sibling. You wrote: "General Lafayette Maberry and Mary Jane Moore had only one child." I thought that the infant, John C. L. Maberry, identified on his tombstone as "son of L. & M. J. Maberry," who lived from Oct to Dec. 1852, was likely a son of Lafayette. Were you going by the probate abstract and 1860 census? Thanks again. I really appreciate getting all this information. Nancy Pundsack

    04/05/2000 03:31:57