Hi Monte, What would be the dates for your Nichols outfit? One of my McFalls married a Melissa NIcholas (Nichols?) in Lawrence County. You know the alternate spelling thing.... cheers, Amber >I've been reading with interest some of the comments. I was wondering if >anyone has come across or seen, Clement Nichols or Monte Nichols in Jasper >or Lawrence counties. These are my ancestors. >Thanks, > >Monte Nichols > >"Laughter is the closest distance between two >people" - Victor Borge

Hi Amber, It was interesting to me that you live in Snowflake, AZ. I live in Sierra Vista, AZ. There was a lady by the name Wilma McFALL who went to Christian Women's Club with me some time ago. Of course this was her married name and her husband died about two years ago. It is possible that I can find his obituary. They had not lived around here for a long time and I can't remember where they had moved from when they came here. I am searching for the MYERS family in the MOLAWREN area. My husbands grandfather was Robert Oscar MYERS son of George W. MYERS and Dora Bell KENNEDY. Robert Oscar MYERS and Carrie GLASSCOCK were married in Missouri but moved to Mesa, Gilbert, Arizona area around 1913 or 1914. Their son Myron Wallace MYERS was the son of Robert and my husbands father. Robert had a brother and several sisters all born in the early 1900's. I am searching for my side of the family in England. Sincerely, Mary M. in Arizona, USA researching MYERS/GLASSCOCK at bigj@primenet.com Amber Faith wrote: > > Yes, Carolyn...I am from a very small town in Indiana and have lived in tiny hamlets in Wales & England...and now live at the edge of a little ranching town, Snowflake, AZ. And the operating systems are nearly identical! > Thanks for the names of your local McFalls...I'll try to send MOnte a message...without being too intrusive. > What family group brought you to MOLAWREN? > cheers > Amber >

Hi Amber, It was interesting to me that you live in Snowflake, AZ. I live in Sierra Vista, AZ. There was a lady by the name Wilma McFALL who went to Christian Women's Club with me some time ago. Of course this was her married name and her husband died about two years ago. It is possible that I can find his obituary. They had not lived around here for a long time and I can't remember where they had moved from when they came here. I am searching for the MYERS family in the MOLAWREN area. My husbands grandfather was Robert Oscar MYERS son of George W. MYERS and Dora Bell KENNEDY. Robert Oscar MYERS and Carrie GLASSCOCK were married in Missouri but moved to Mesa, Gilbert, Arizona area around 1913 or 1914. Their son Myron Wallace MYERS was the son of Robert and my husbands father. Robert had a brother and several sisters all born in the early 1900's. I am searching for my side of the family in England. Sincerely, Mary M. in Arizona, USA researching MYERS/GLASSCOCK at bigj@primenet.com Amber Faith wrote: > > Yes, Carolyn...I am from a very small town in Indiana and have lived in tiny hamlets in Wales & England...and now live at the edge of a little ranching town, Snowflake, AZ. And the operating systems are nearly identical! > Thanks for the names of your local McFalls...I'll try to send MOnte a message...without being too intrusive. > What family group brought you to MOLAWREN? > cheers > Amber >

Yes, Carolyn...I am from a very small town in Indiana and have lived in tiny hamlets in Wales & England...and now live at the edge of a little ranching town, Snowflake, AZ. And the operating systems are nearly identical! Thanks for the names of your local McFalls...I'll try to send MOnte a message...without being too intrusive. What family group brought you to MOLAWREN? cheers Amber >Amber, > >The McFall's I knew of were related to the late John McFall who was a Senator >in about the 60s or 70s. Monte McFall is still in Manteca and listed in the >phone book at 209 823-7349. If I remember right he is John McFall's >grandson. > >As for Burgess there are several listed in the phone book if you would like >them. > >Sorry, if I gave you the impression I personally knew the McFall family. I >have lived in Manteca almost all my life and have been raised with that name >in the papers and such. I knew one of Monte's wives in Girl Scouts and his >present wife in real estate but not to be good friends. You know how small >towns can be. > >Carolyn > ><< Carolyn, > Thanks for the speedy response! I am the gggranddaughter of Julia McFall >m. John Benton Wann, 1869/Halltown, MO. Julia was the daughter of Richard >McFall and Melissa Nicholas....sister of Russell McFall. > Julia died in 1875. > Ring any bells? > Thanks, > Amber > > >Amber, > > > >I live in Manteca, CA, if I can be of help. I don't known Alicia Burgess >put > >I am familiar with a McFall or two. > > > >Carolyn Smith Burns > >Manteca, CA > > > ><< Hi all, > > After a great website lead re: my McFalls, I posted a real card to ALICIA > >BURGESS of Manteca, CA...a lady who shares our precise McFall line. The >card > >came back UNKNOWN. > > Alicia, are you out there? Does anyone here know of her? > > I enjoy this site so very much....Ross Cameron and all the helpful MO >souls! > >We are planning a family pilgrimage to "MOLAWREN" and Humansville this >autumn. > > Thanks, > > Amber > > >> > >>

Amber, The McFall's I knew of were related to the late John McFall who was a Senator in about the 60s or 70s. Monte McFall is still in Manteca and listed in the phone book at 209 823-7349. If I remember right he is John McFall's grandson. As for Burgess there are several listed in the phone book if you would like them. Sorry, if I gave you the impression I personally knew the McFall family. I have lived in Manteca almost all my life and have been raised with that name in the papers and such. I knew one of Monte's wives in Girl Scouts and his present wife in real estate but not to be good friends. You know how small towns can be. Carolyn << Carolyn, Thanks for the speedy response! I am the gggranddaughter of Julia McFall m. John Benton Wann, 1869/Halltown, MO. Julia was the daughter of Richard McFall and Melissa Nicholas....sister of Russell McFall. Julia died in 1875. Ring any bells? Thanks, Amber >Amber, > >I live in Manteca, CA, if I can be of help. I don't known Alicia Burgess put >I am familiar with a McFall or two. > >Carolyn Smith Burns >Manteca, CA > ><< Hi all, > After a great website lead re: my McFalls, I posted a real card to ALICIA >BURGESS of Manteca, CA...a lady who shares our precise McFall line. The card >came back UNKNOWN. > Alicia, are you out there? Does anyone here know of her? > I enjoy this site so very much....Ross Cameron and all the helpful MO souls! >We are planning a family pilgrimage to "MOLAWREN" and Humansville this autumn. > Thanks, > Amber > >> >>

Peggy-- Any chance that your Bewleys or Davenports come from Hardin Co., Kentucky? My g-grandfather Wm. J. Berry, who was in Lawrence Co. by 1900, had sisters who married men with those names there. Barbara Berry Meger

Jane Winton married Anthony Bewley 1834 in Roane Co., Tn. They probably traveled to Missouri with the Mitchells', Winton's, Looney's, etc. in circa 1837. -- Peggy <'}}}}>< Winton Family Homepage http://sites.netscape.net/mawpeggywilson/homepage Paid to Surf http://homepages.go.com/~mawpeggy/index1.html

Carolyn, Thanks for the speedy response! I am the gggranddaughter of Julia McFall m. John Benton Wann, 1869/Halltown, MO. Julia was the daughter of Richard McFall and Melissa Nicholas....sister of Russell McFall. Julia died in 1875. Ring any bells? Thanks, Amber >Amber, > >I live in Manteca, CA, if I can be of help. I don't known Alicia Burgess put >I am familiar with a McFall or two. > >Carolyn Smith Burns >Manteca, CA > ><< Hi all, > After a great website lead re: my McFalls, I posted a real card to ALICIA >BURGESS of Manteca, CA...a lady who shares our precise McFall line. The card >came back UNKNOWN. > Alicia, are you out there? Does anyone here know of her? > I enjoy this site so very much....Ross Cameron and all the helpful MO souls! >We are planning a family pilgrimage to "MOLAWREN" and Humansville this autumn. > Thanks, > Amber > >>

Amber, I live in Manteca, CA, if I can be of help. I don't known Alicia Burgess put I am familiar with a McFall or two. Carolyn Smith Burns Manteca, CA << Hi all, After a great website lead re: my McFalls, I posted a real card to ALICIA BURGESS of Manteca, CA...a lady who shares our precise McFall line. The card came back UNKNOWN. Alicia, are you out there? Does anyone here know of her? I enjoy this site so very much....Ross Cameron and all the helpful MO souls! We are planning a family pilgrimage to "MOLAWREN" and Humansville this autumn. Thanks, Amber >>

Seek information on this family that resided in Lawrence Co., Missouri Any help is appreciated. Dorthula Marilla Bewley b. 4 Jun 1835 d. 31 Jan 1915 m.(1) 2 Oct 1855 David S. Roper d. 1867 m.(2) 13 Jan 1869 Hezikiah Hanson Davenport b. 13 Mar 1816 d. 16 Jan 1900 children by Roper: * William H. ( Will ) Roper b. 1857 * Mary Roper b. 7 Mar 1860 d. 20 Nov 1939 m. George Batson b. 23 Nov 1856 d. 18 Oct 1918 children by Batson: * Marky Batson died @ 29 or 30 * unknown * unknown * David A. Roper b. 1862 d. 1932 m. Clara McCulla b. 1868 * Sarah Roper b. 1866 children by Davenport: * Carrie May Davenport b. 7 Jun 1870 d. 1960 m. 17 Mar 1901 John W. Pendleton b. 1871 d. 1959 children by Pendleton: * Clemie Pendleton m. _ Endicott * unknown Son * Aurelia Alice Davenport b. 20 Feb 1872 m. Thomas Pifer children by Pifer: * unknown * unknown * unknown * unknown * Mary Emma Davenport b. 23 Dec 1873 m. Judd Haskett * Theodore Hanson Davenport b. 18 Sep 1876 d. 15 Sep 1926 m. 17 Nov 1897 Lucy Jane Pendleton b. 4 Dec 1873 d. 1 Jun 1970 children of by Pendlton: * Cordy Anthony Davenport b. 14 Jun 1904 d. 23 Jul 1963 m. unknown children by unknown: * Shirley Lorene Davenport b. 10 Jun 1932 m. Leslie Johns * Jeanne Johns * unknown * unknown * unknown -- Peggy <'}}}}>< Winton Family Homepage http://sites.netscape.net/mawpeggywilson/homepage Paid to Surf http://homepages.go.com/~mawpeggy/index1.html

Hi all, After a great website lead re: my McFalls, I posted a real card to ALICIA BURGESS of Manteca, CA...a lady who shares our precise McFall line. The card came back UNKNOWN. Alicia, are you out there? Does anyone here know of her? I enjoy this site so very much....Ross Cameron and all the helpful MO souls! We are planning a family pilgrimage to "MOLAWREN" and Humansville this autumn. Thanks, Amber presently in Snowflake, AZ

Looking for the person who posted this message....this address is no longer good. I have info on this family in Oklahoma and have names of other descendants. _______________________________________ >Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:27:46 -0400 From: "Donald Stanton" <dmsmas@worldnet.att.net> To: MOLAWREN-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <028901bf1427$9770dee0$304a4c0c@100000000worldnet.att.net> Subject: [MOLAWREN-L] Bewley/Fountain Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I found the marriage records of John A. Bewley to Martha Fountain in Lawrence County date December 15, 1867. Is anyone connected to either of these people? Michele< ___________________________________________________ -- Peggy <'}}}}>< Winton Family Homepage http://sites.netscape.net/mawpeggywilson/homepage Paid to Surf http://homepages.go.com/~mawpeggy/index1.html

If Gary Daughtrey is not part of this list, could someone please let me know (off list, please) how I could contact him? I see from the current LCHS Bulletin that we share Samuel(s) ancestors. Thanks much, Barbara Berry Meger

Gordon, I am not sure whether you are trying to confirm your mother's date of birth or whether you are certain of it and are trying to find contemporary records which you could use as "evidence" to document her birth date other than family information. Another obvious source that I forgot to mention although it won't give you an exact date is the 1910 Census. It should give her age in months as of April 15, 1910, because she was less than 2 years old based on the information you provide. The "Instructions to Enumerators" on the ages of children for the 1910 Census states: "112. Ages of children.--Take particular pains to get the exact ages of children. In the case of a child not 2 years old, the age should be given in completed months, expressed as twelfths of a year. Thus the age of a child 3 months old should be entered as 3/12, a child 7 months old as 7/12, a child 1 year and 3 months old as 1 3/12, etc. If a child is not yet a month old, enter the age as 0/12. But note again that this question should be answered with reference to April 15. For instance, a child who is just a year old on the 17th of April, 1910, should nevertheless be returned as 11/12, because that is its age in completed months on April 15." Presuming that the person who provided the information was accurate and the census taker accurately recorded it, neither of which is absolutely certain, this should give a good estimate of her date of birth, especially if you already know the month and day of her birth. Again, the census won't give you the month and day. However, for a child this young I believe that the likelihood of being off by a year or more is very unlikely. By 1920 she would be old enough that her age would only be given in years. However, again this is age as of Jan. 1, 1920, so if she were reported as 10 years old, then she was born during 1909 unless her birthday was Jan. 1st. And again, this is subject to correct information being provided and correctly recorded. And I have found many instances of ages being incorrectly recorded in censuses. Ross Cameron >>> "Ross Cameron" <ross.cameron@arch2.nara.gov> 05/10 8:34 AM >>> Gordon, Unfortunately, even if you make contact with the church and see the records, I doubt that the church will have any records of her birth because Baptists do not perform infant baptisms. We practice believer's baptism which means that whenever a person is old enough to understand the plan of salvation and make a personal decision to accept Christ as their Savior and Lord, then they may be baptized. This can be at almost any age. The date of decision and/or baptism should be recorded in the church membership record book, but I have never seen any that gave age or date of birth. So I don't think you will find any birth record there. HOWEVER, there are some other possible sources: First, even though Missouri did not start statewide birth registration until 1910, many people who were born before that time requested and received a "Delayed or Special Certificate of Birth" many years later. I have copies of these for my three grandparents who were born in Missouri -- Grandma Cameron, born in 1886, got her's in 1951; Grandma Patton, born in 1891, got her's 1955; and Grandpa Patton, born in 1889, got his in 1954. In order to get one, the person had to file a notarized statement with an "Abstract of Supporting Evidence" which listed up to four documents provided as evidence, such as Bible records, school records, child's birth certificate, marriage certificate, employment records, and affidavits of relatives or other persons who could testify to personal knowledge of the date of birth. If you have not requested such a certificate from the Missouri Bureau of Vital Statistics, you might try this. The following statement is from the website of the Missouri ! State Archives: The Bureau of Vital Statistics has certificates of Missouri births from 1910 to the present with some delayed filings prior to this date. You may obtain a certified copy by: Writing to Vital records, P.O. Box 570, Jefferson City, MO 65102, or Going in person to the Vital Records Office at the address above. If there is not a record there, then you may be able to find a birth announcement in the local newspapers. Copies of the Peirce City Southwest Journal, the Monett Star, the Monett Times, the Lawrence Chieftain, the Lawrence County Record, and the Aurora Advertiser are all extant for 1909. There is a published abstract for the Aurora Advertiser for 1908-1910. The Lawrence Chieftain and Lawrence County Record are available on microfilm at the McCanse Library in Mount Vernon. Microfilm of all of these newspapers are available at the State Historical Society of Missouri and are available for interlibrary loan. Check the SHSM website at http://www.system.missouri.edu/shs/ You might also check with the Social Security Administration to see what records they have. Ross Cameron >>> <Rollogrg@aol.com> 05/09 9:04 PM >>> I was born and raised in Monett. In the early 1900s my Mother's family lived on a farm north and west of Monett, where she was born. It was near the Mt. Olivet Baptist Church where the family went to church and my Mother was baptized there. I am trying to get a contact at the church to see if I can obtain a baptismal record or other record that would state her date of birth in 1909. When I was in Monett last summer I went to the church but could not find anyone or any info. on how to contact anyone. I went to the PO in Pierce City and was told that mail was being delivered to the church but they did not know the pastor's name. I have sent three letters asking for information and no response. The letters have not been returned. Any information on how I might make a contact (letter or phone) with someone who goes to this church would be appreciated. Thanks, Gordon Gray Colorado Springs, CO

Dottie, Perhaps he did not receive a pension . Also, most but not all pension records are on file at the Natl Arch in Washington, D.C. Perhaps your ancestor's record is on file in another federal agency located elsewhere. If that is the case they should have told you that. Do you have access to the Natl Arch Index on microfilm? You might want to check for various spellings (a handwritten 'L' can be mistaken for an 'S' or 'T'. Do you have the actual pension file numbers? If not, that is even more reason to check the index. We have all of the indexes at our FHC, but I won't be going there until next week (Tuesday or Wednesday). If you don't find the info before then, let me know and I will check the microfilm for you. Sharon E-mail: denleeford@worldnet.att.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill & Dorothy Casler <bildotcslr@murrieta.net> To: <MOLAWREN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 3:08 PM Subject: [MOLAWREN-L] Thomas Jefferson Larkins > Hi Group, I have been away for quite awhile and > am ready to zoom into genealogy again. > > I wrote to the National Archives for pension infor- > mation on one of my grandfathers who was in the > Civil War. According to the 1890 Special Census > of Missouri for military folks he was listed as > Thomas J. Larkins, yet my reply came back > saying the people could not find anything on him. > Do I just resubmit the information I have and keep > trying or am I at a huge brick wall? > Would love for someone to reply about this. My > email is bildotcslr@murrieta.net > Dottie >

Susie, My line was from Dearborn Co., IN and not sure if they actually went into MO, however, some of the offspring did. My husband's Plummer line was in PA. Where are yours from? Carolyn << Carolyn, While reading your list of surnames I saw the name "Plummer." Were your Plummers from Missouri? Before that Indiana? Suzie >>

Carolyn, While reading your list of surnames I saw the name "Plummer." Were your Plummers from Missouri? Before that Indiana? Suzie At 11:46 AM 5/10/00 EDT, you wrote: >Thank you, Ross and all of the wonderful people that have been so kind to >send me their ideas. I'm sure I will be able to find my newspaper articles >now without any further ado. > >This was my first inquiry to the list and I can only say thank you to one of >the best lists I have every had the pleasure of being a member of. > >Carolyn Smith Burns >Manteca, CA >Surnames: BREWER, BURNS, CARBERRY, HOGES, HOOTON, JOHNSON, JOSLIN, KING, >LIAFE, LOZIER, MCCRACKEN, PARKER, PLASTER, PLUMMER, SIDERS, SKELLY, SMITH, >SPITZER, SWAFFORD, SYKES, WILLHITE > > ><< > Carolyn, > > The Springfield, Mo., newspapers would also have carried the story. There >are indexed abstracts (by Dr. William Hall) of items of genealogical interest >available at the Shepard Room for the Springfield Newspapers from 1865-1991? >excluding a few years around the turn of the century and a period from the >mid 1920s to late 1930s. [The earliest ones up to about 1920 have been >published by the Ozarks Genealogical Society.] These include birth, death, >marriage, divorce, engagements, accidents, etc. I would think the items you >are looking for would probably be indexed. There are volume [yearly] indexes >and a cumulative index for 1939?-1991?. It is at least worth a phone call, >letter, or email. There is a small research fee ($3, I think), plus a charge >for any photocopies (25 cents per page, I think). > > The Shepard Room > Springfield-Greene County Library > 4653 S. Campbell Avenue > Springfield, MO 65810 > (417) 874-8110 > > The email address is sheprm@mail.orion.org > > Of course, the Lawrence County newspapers would also have covered it. > > Pierce City Leader-Journal, 105 W. Commercial St., Pierce City, Mo. 75623 >(417) 476-2232 > Lawrence County Record, 312 S. Hickory St., Mt. Vernon, Mo. 65712 (417) >466-2185 > Aurora Advertiser, 32 W. Olive, Aurora, Mo. 65605 (417) 678-2115 > The Miller Press, P.O. Box 236, Miller, Mo. 65707 (417) 452-3792 > > I don't know if issues for the 1970s are available at the McCanse Library >yet or not; earlier ones are. These newspapers are all available on >microfilm at the State Historical Society of Missouri, Columbia, Mo., and can >be borrowed on interlibrary loan, I believe. Check out their website at: > > http://www.system.missouri.edu/shs/ > > for information. > > Ross Cameron > >> > > >

Hi Group, I have been away for quite awhile and am ready to zoom into genealogy again. I wrote to the National Archives for pension infor- mation on one of my grandfathers who was in the Civil War. According to the 1890 Special Census of Missouri for military folks he was listed as Thomas J. Larkins, yet my reply came back saying the people could not find anything on him. Do I just resubmit the information I have and keep trying or am I at a huge brick wall? Would love for someone to reply about this. My email is bildotcslr@murrieta.net Dottie

Diedra, Sorry, my Brewers in IN and pretty much wound up in OK and my husbands line went on to CA for most part. Carolyn << Carolyn, does your Brewer line come from the Lawrence County area? I am looking for a Fern Brewer who married Carlos Franklin Hunnell 16 July 1932. All I have is her name, marriage date, husband's name and the tradition that she was a farmer's daughter. Thanks. Diedra >>

That is done deal, Pat. Ross did us all a favor it sounds like. Carolyn << Carolyn, the Shepherd Room is well worth a bookmark and visits for many reasons. Ross, thanks for all those addresses in one place. I think I have them scattered here and there, but I'll keep the list. As always, you are a gold mine of useful information. Cousin Pat >>