I was through Pierce City this morning on my way to visit an Uncle in Mt. Vernon. I stopped by the cemetery. Except for one tree, the cemetery was not hit by the tornado---no stones were broken nor toppled. If any of you have family history related to the First Baptist Church of Pierce city, I do have a picture I took of the damage. Please feel free to request it, and I will send it to your e-mail address, if you provide it. Wilma

http://www.ecola.com Janet, you can find the Joplin Globe (and hundreds of other newspapers)on the above site, but I could find the archived papers for that week, but not the early in the week obits. Maybe you are better at searching than I, so you can try it. Patricia

Hello Everyone, On Sunday, Mother's Day, my Aunt Eunice (Bryant) Sexton, wife of Raymond Sexton, passed away in Greenfield, Dade Co. I understand that there was an obituary for her in the Joplin Globe probably on Tuesday. I am sure there will also be obits in the Miller Press, the Greenfield Vedette and maybe the Lawrence County Record. I will see the Greenfield Vedette, but probably not until next week. I would very much appreciate it if any of you have the time, to send me the text of the obituaries. I could not find the Joplin Globe online. Best Regards and my thanks, Janet Hunter

http://www.joplinglobe.com/ At the moment, clicking on the obituaries link gets a php failure on the page; that may be because they're updating the pages this very minute. Would be worth a look tomorrow (er, later today<g>). --pig On 5/15/2003 1:18, [email protected] shared this thought: > Hello Everyone, > > On Sunday, Mother's Day, my Aunt Eunice (Bryant) Sexton, wife of Raymond > Sexton, passed away in Greenfield, Dade Co. I understand that there was an > obituary for her in the Joplin Globe probably on Tuesday. I am sure there > will also be obits in the Miller Press, the Greenfield Vedette and maybe the > Lawrence County Record. I will see the Greenfield Vedette, but probably not > until next week. > > I would very much appreciate it if any of you have the time, to send me the > text of the obituaries. I could not find the Joplin Globe online. > > Best Regards and my thanks, > > Janet Hunter > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Looking for a town, postoffice, cemetery, creek, etc. > Try the mapping services at USGS GNIS. > http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I am sending an edited report from a local involved friend concerning the tornado. This is from the Aurora. Pat <big clip> There was 23 miles, 3/4 mile wide through Lawrence County of disaster. Every mile is devastating. Locally, we have all we can handle and it is hard to look beyond your immediate community. Pierce City still has buildings standing even though they will have to be torn down. Stockton didn't even have buildings left. We came into Pierce City from the north Sat. evening. There were no trees around the spring area just before you enter town. The metal buildings and old houses you first pass have parts standing but are not salvageable. The old downtown area has the building fronts standing, but shells behind. Yesterday, I saw a 10 minute video of the tornado approaching Aurora. It was unbelievable. You could see the smaller ones spin off and then go up. One man I spoke with said his neighbor got two pictures of the tornado just before it hit his house. It was well forecasted and on the ground so long that there are lots of good pictures. The County emergency services were warned Sat. noon to expect a major storm later Sunday. They were in place and waiting. The County has contracted for the debris to be picked up. Most of the area hit is rural. The company cannot go onto the private property. So there is a need for volunteers to help move the debris to the road. There is a mobil home frame in a fence row on ZZ. I hope that is close enough to the road! I am learning about all types of disaster ministries. The one I learned about today is a church in Iowa has a daycare ministry. They have trailers set up as daycares that they move in for the victims so they can work on their property. All the personnel are cleared and licensed. You can't have the ladies at the local church do it, they have to have background checks! How regulated we are!!! I had Red Cross Volunteers come in today. One from Iowa and one from Vermont. Their job was to see to the elderly and minority storm victims!!!............. <clip> Your report about no clothing is true. I was warned from the start about accepting clothing. Red Cross wouldn't accept it from day one and now I know why. I stopped accepting clothing late last week and received a call from someone on the County level warning about accepting more. I have accepted extra large clothing. That is the only request I have had................. .......... a handout of places in the two towns where people can get food, clothing, showers, household items, and volunteer help. The Aurora Rural Fire Department is handing them out to the people. Communication is difficult. They are all working on their property without electricity. They are not listening to the TV or radio. Many even lost their cars. One "upscale" looking family said their three cars were all parked in different areas and all were destroyed. We are seeing a tremendous outpouring of support from family, friends, employers, and coworkers. Most people are getting what they need through this sphere of support. <big clip>

Pat, I would like to have the transcription, if you please. Thank you for all the hard work. Wilma [email protected]

I have finished the transcription and will send it to those who ask for it privately. Just don't want to put it out to the world in case there are errors. I transcribed it just like I read it, but don't know whether this inventory is exactly right. While I am in Missouri I will check with the records in Mt. Vernon. BTW, I saw somewhere in my stuff (don't remember where) that this cemetery has another name besides the three I knew it was called. Does anyone have the history about all of the different names of this place? Pat,

I'd like to help too, but I'm 400 miles away and can't drop everything to help either. Sorry about the crutches situation...hope it gets better soon.. Red Cross site is at: http://www.redcross.org/news/ds/tornadoes/030508missouri4.html 1)Red Cross Donations may be sent to: Amercian Red Cross Disaster Relief 1835 E Chestnut Expressway Springfield, MO 65802 Mark in the memo section of the check "Pierce City Disaster Relief". 2) Zip code for Pierce City is 65723. I would suggest you address any written correspondense to the city at the zip code. If you send money, write how you require them to spend it on the memo section of the check; they have to use it for what you request. I don't know anyone in Pierce City so can't find out first hand for you. Pat, John Wall wrote: >Pat, > >I wish I could go there and help but I'm 2,00 miles away and on crutches at >the moment. However, I would still like to help with a donation. Can you >tell me where to send a donation? > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Pat Miller" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 10:00 AM >Subject: [MOLAWREN-L] Pierce City still needs help > > > > >>I was forwarded this information from a friend about what is happening >>in Pierce City. The city is naturally in shock, but still has to meet >>the needs of it's citizens. >> >>The following is needed: >> >>1. Peirce City needs help with payments on >>their fire truck. With the loss of their tax >>base from the tornado, they are in danger of >>losing the fire truck. >> >>2. They are still in need of canned goods, >>cleaners and household supplies. They are no >>longer accepting donations of clothing. >> >>3. Clean up continues and Red Cross is asking >>for 200 volunteers. >> >>Thanks >>Pat Miller >> >> >> >> >> >>==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== >>Looking for a town, postoffice, cemetery, creek, etc. >>Try the mapping services at USGS GNIS. >>http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form >> >>============================== >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >> >> >go to: > > >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> >> > > >==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== >Whoops! Deleted a message you needed? Search archived messages on this list by entering MOLAWREN-L in the search field at: >http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Hello Pat, Is there a place I could send a check? - Heather On Wed, 14 May 2003, Pat Miller wrote: > I was forwarded this information from a friend about what is happening > in Pierce City. The city is naturally in shock, but still has to meet > the needs of it's citizens. > > The following is needed: > > 1. Peirce City needs help with payments on > their fire truck. With the loss of their tax > base from the tornado, they are in danger of > losing the fire truck. > > 2. They are still in need of canned goods, > cleaners and household supplies. They are no > longer accepting donations of clothing. > > 3. Clean up continues and Red Cross is asking > for 200 volunteers. > > Thanks > Pat Miller > > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Looking for a town, postoffice, cemetery, creek, etc. > Try the mapping services at USGS GNIS. > http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I was forwarded this information from a friend about what is happening in Pierce City. The city is naturally in shock, but still has to meet the needs of it's citizens. The following is needed: 1. Peirce City needs help with payments on their fire truck. With the loss of their tax base from the tornado, they are in danger of losing the fire truck. 2. They are still in need of canned goods, cleaners and household supplies. They are no longer accepting donations of clothing. 3. Clean up continues and Red Cross is asking for 200 volunteers. Thanks Pat Miller

Pat, I wish I could go there and help but I'm 2,00 miles away and on crutches at the moment. However, I would still like to help with a donation. Can you tell me where to send a donation? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Miller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 10:00 AM Subject: [MOLAWREN-L] Pierce City still needs help > I was forwarded this information from a friend about what is happening > in Pierce City. The city is naturally in shock, but still has to meet > the needs of it's citizens. > > The following is needed: > > 1. Peirce City needs help with payments on > their fire truck. With the loss of their tax > base from the tornado, they are in danger of > losing the fire truck. > > 2. They are still in need of canned goods, > cleaners and household supplies. They are no > longer accepting donations of clothing. > > 3. Clean up continues and Red Cross is asking > for 200 volunteers. > > Thanks > Pat Miller > > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Looking for a town, postoffice, cemetery, creek, etc. > Try the mapping services at USGS GNIS. > http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Pat, Here is one link. Wilma http://www.rootsweb.com/~molawre2/photos.htm

Some time ago I found a site to post unknown Lawrence County photos...can anybody tell me where that was? I have several photos that I think I know some of the people and can only guess on the others. Thsnks Pat,

John, I spoke to a cousin, husband of the Caretaker's daughter. From what he said, the damage was from the tracks north, the Cemetery is south and across from St. Mary's. I would guess there was little if any damage to the Cemetery from this conversation. Wilma

Alice and all, There is no date nor author on this cemetery list. There is nothing to tell me anything about this list except it's title. The only thing different is that it calls it the Grammar Graveyard and maybe that means something. I'm workin' on it. :-) Pat, Alice E McCollum wrote: > Pat, > > If your Grammer Cemetery list dates earlier than Mary Curry's, I would > be interested in the burials noted. > > Today there are undoubtedly stones that were once there that are > missing. We first visited the cemetery probably in the late > seventies when it was nothing but brambles and poison ivy, so hard to > look for stones that were down. We did find Peterson and Martha > Grammer's stones laying under a bush near the entrance of the cemetery. > > The last time we were there was in 1997 and the change was amazing. I > don't know if any stones were reset. Peterson and Martha Grammer's > stones are no longer there. I doubt they could have been reset. J L > Grammer's stone is there and in good shape. It has no dates on it - > just J L and Co. B Burrows Mo, HG. From that inscription I feel > certain that is Jesse L Grammer, my great-grandfather, because I have > documents that he served in that Company in the Civil War. From > family records he apparently died in 1890. > > But there are Grammers, who died earlier that I feel must surely have > been buried there. The Grammers came to Lawrence Co. probably in the > fall or winter of 1851. Peterson's mother, Elizabeth, died ca 1 May > 1852 and his brother, Leonard, died within a year after Elizabeth's > death so it just seems logical that they were buried there, but no > records to prove it. > > > > On Tuesday, May 13, 2003, at 10:56 AM, Ross Cameron wrote: > >> Pat, >> >> I presume that what you have is a unpublished transcription. There >> are at least two published transcriptions. >> >> Lawrence County, Missouri, Tombstone Inscriptions, Vol. 5, Buck >> Prairie Township, Fairview Cemetery (also known as Grammer), pp. >> 113-114, published by the Lawrence County Historical Society, 1987. >> It was surveyed by Mrs. Loyd B. Ellis and Hazel Pannell and presented >> to the Rachel Donelson Chapter of the NSDAR, Springfield, Mo. >> >> Lawrence County, Missouri, Tombstone Inscriptions, Vol. 1, Grammer >> Cemetery, pp. 60-62, published by Mary M. Curry, 1970. >> >> There are some significant differences between these two >> transcriptions. Mrs. Curry's transcription has more stones, > >> including: >> a second stone for Nancy Cline without the name Witherspoon; >> William and Mariah Cox; >> Peterson, Martha, (Isabell?), Ervin? J.?, J. L., and infant Grammer; >> Nancy C. (1870-1872) and John C. McNatt; and >> George N. McNeill. >> >> LCHS lists the following stone not in Curry: >> Judy R. McNatt (1810-1859) >> >> LCHS lists Martin V. McNatt and Curry lists Martin V. Wheat with the >> same date of death and LCHS lists age at death which Curry does not. >> >> LCHS lists: >> Hubbard, Mary E., dau. of Wm. Hubbard, born 12 Nov 1852, no death dates >> Curry lists: >> Hubbard, no name-stone broken & part gone, 12 Nov 1852 - 12 Jan 1874 >> By combining the two, the full name and dates of birth and death are >> known. >> >> There are other differences such as: >> LCHS lists Sarah Lemaster and Curry lists Sarah I. Brashers, wife of >> W. W., but both have the same dates of birth and death. Is this >> Sarah I. McNatt who married William W. Brashears in Nov. 1865? It >> appears as if "I. Brashers" was read as "Lemaster". >> >> LCHS lists Charles R. and Nancy Galloway; Curry lists Calloway, >> though in a marriage note she lists Galoway. >> >> There are other differences in spellings of names, dates, and other >> information. >> >> Pat, if your transcription is not one of the above, then it would be >> valuable to see if there are additional differences or which of the >> above differences the transcription that you have matches. >> >> Mrs. Curry noted that at time the cemetery was overgrown and Peterson >> and Martha Grammer's stones were under some bushes, both down and >> partially covered with soil. It appears as if other stones were >> down, missing, etc., when Mrs. Loyd and Pannell surveyed it. It has >> since been cleaned, etc., but I don't know if a new reading has been >> done. >> >> My great, great, great aunt, Rachel W. (Patton) Moore, first wife of >> James Marion Moore, is buried here. >> >> I have four transcriptions of Lower South Bend Cemetery, also known >> as Patton, Hoshaw, Shelton, Mahan, Hopewell, etc. and there are >> differences between all four. >> >> Some stones may have been standing, down, buried, broken, or reset >> between transcriptions. Different people read the stones >> differently. And there are often typographical errors by the time it >> gets published. So it doesn't hurt to have more than one >> transcription. AND YOU SHOULD TRANSCRIBE IT YOURSELF whenever >> possible, as well as photograph and/or video it. >> >> Ross Cameron >> >>>>> [email protected] 05/12/03 04:43PM >>> >>>> >> I was looking through my McNatt stuff today and realized that the >> cemetery that I have always called the Old McNatt Cemetery (near >> Marionville, Mo) is also called the Fairview Cemetery or sometimes >> called Grammar Graveyard. It is 1 1/2 miles N.W. of Marionville, Mo. in >> Lawrence CO. out in the middle of a field on Jim Carr's property. I >> have the list of the tomb stones from there and had intended to >> transcribe it. It is a very badly many times copied typed list that is >> difficult to read. If anyone is interested it might get me more >> interested in trying to type it up. :-) I am worried that the tornado >> may have damaged it and will check when I visit in a couple of weeks. >> Pat, >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== >> Whoops! Deleted a message you needed? 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Pat, If your Grammer Cemetery list dates earlier than Mary Curry's, I would be interested in the burials noted. Today there are undoubtedly stones that were once there that are missing. We first visited the cemetery probably in the late seventies when it was nothing but brambles and poison ivy, so hard to look for stones that were down. We did find Peterson and Martha Grammer's stones laying under a bush near the entrance of the cemetery. The last time we were there was in 1997 and the change was amazing. I don't know if any stones were reset. Peterson and Martha Grammer's stones are no longer there. I doubt they could have been reset. J L Grammer's stone is there and in good shape. It has no dates on it - just J L and Co. B Burrows Mo, HG. From that inscription I feel certain that is Jesse L Grammer, my great-grandfather, because I have documents that he served in that Company in the Civil War. From family records he apparently died in 1890. But there are Grammers, who died earlier that I feel must surely have been buried there. The Grammers came to Lawrence Co. probably in the fall or winter of 1851. Peterson's mother, Elizabeth, died ca 1 May 1852 and his brother, Leonard, died within a year after Elizabeth's death so it just seems logical that they were buried there, but no records to prove it. On Tuesday, May 13, 2003, at 10:56 AM, Ross Cameron wrote: > Pat, > > I presume that what you have is a unpublished transcription. There > are at least two published transcriptions. > > Lawrence County, Missouri, Tombstone Inscriptions, Vol. 5, Buck > Prairie Township, Fairview Cemetery (also known as Grammer), pp. > 113-114, published by the Lawrence County Historical Society, 1987. > It was surveyed by Mrs. Loyd B. Ellis and Hazel Pannell and presented > to the Rachel Donelson Chapter of the NSDAR, Springfield, Mo. > > Lawrence County, Missouri, Tombstone Inscriptions, Vol. 1, Grammer > Cemetery, pp. 60-62, published by Mary M. Curry, 1970. > > There are some significant differences between these two > transcriptions. Mrs. Curry's transcription has more stones, > including: > a second stone for Nancy Cline without the name Witherspoon; > William and Mariah Cox; > Peterson, Martha, (Isabell?), Ervin? J.?, J. L., and infant Grammer; > Nancy C. (1870-1872) and John C. McNatt; and > George N. McNeill. > > LCHS lists the following stone not in Curry: > Judy R. McNatt (1810-1859) > > LCHS lists Martin V. McNatt and Curry lists Martin V. Wheat with the > same date of death and LCHS lists age at death which Curry does not. > > LCHS lists: > Hubbard, Mary E., dau. of Wm. Hubbard, born 12 Nov 1852, no death dates > Curry lists: > Hubbard, no name-stone broken & part gone, 12 Nov 1852 - 12 Jan 1874 > By combining the two, the full name and dates of birth and death are > known. > > There are other differences such as: > LCHS lists Sarah Lemaster and Curry lists Sarah I. Brashers, wife of > W. W., but both have the same dates of birth and death. Is this Sarah > I. McNatt who married William W. Brashears in Nov. 1865? It appears > as if "I. Brashers" was read as "Lemaster". > > LCHS lists Charles R. and Nancy Galloway; Curry lists Calloway, though > in a marriage note she lists Galoway. > > There are other differences in spellings of names, dates, and other > information. > > Pat, if your transcription is not one of the above, then it would be > valuable to see if there are additional differences or which of the > above differences the transcription that you have matches. > > Mrs. Curry noted that at time the cemetery was overgrown and Peterson > and Martha Grammer's stones were under some bushes, both down and > partially covered with soil. It appears as if other stones were down, > missing, etc., when Mrs. Loyd and Pannell surveyed it. It has since > been cleaned, etc., but I don't know if a new reading has been done. > > My great, great, great aunt, Rachel W. (Patton) Moore, first wife of > James Marion Moore, is buried here. > > I have four transcriptions of Lower South Bend Cemetery, also known as > Patton, Hoshaw, Shelton, Mahan, Hopewell, etc. and there are > differences between all four. > > Some stones may have been standing, down, buried, broken, or reset > between transcriptions. Different people read the stones differently. > And there are often typographical errors by the time it gets > published. So it doesn't hurt to have more than one transcription. > AND YOU SHOULD TRANSCRIBE IT YOURSELF whenever possible, as well as > photograph and/or video it. > > Ross Cameron > >>>> [email protected] 05/12/03 04:43PM >>> > I was looking through my McNatt stuff today and realized that the > cemetery that I have always called the Old McNatt Cemetery (near > Marionville, Mo) is also called the Fairview Cemetery or sometimes > called Grammar Graveyard. It is 1 1/2 miles N.W. of Marionville, Mo. in > Lawrence CO. out in the middle of a field on Jim Carr's property. I > have the list of the tomb stones from there and had intended to > transcribe it. It is a very badly many times copied typed list that is > difficult to read. If anyone is interested it might get me more > interested in trying to type it up. :-) I am worried that the tornado > may have damaged it and will check when I visit in a couple of weeks. > Pat, > > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Whoops! Deleted a message you needed? Search archived messages on this > list by entering MOLAWREN-L in the search field at: > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Can anyone on the list tell me if the Pierce City Cemetery was damaged by the tornado and if so how badly? John Wall Home - http://www.johnwall.com/ Genealogy - http://www.johnwall.com/family/tree.htm

Pat, Yes, that is my 3-greats aunt. Don McNeill sent me a photograph of her tombstone awhile back. The LCHS list transcribes her name as Rachael, but Curry's lists Rachel which is correct. LCHS lists 69 tombstones, on one of which neither the names nor dates are legible. Curry lists 77 stones. Ross >>> [email protected] 05/13/03 01:03PM >>> Ross, Let me get this transcribed so I can read it with some intelligence. There is Rachel W. Moore b.Jan 14, 1817 d March 12, 1893 on the list I have and there are seventy four headstones listed. How many are on the other lists? It says that there are a lot of graves marked with sand stones with no names. So this may be recent. I don't know where it came from or who typed it. I will put it out for anyone's use as soon as I get it figured out. If this is from a McNatt cousin that I know was in the area searching for graves in the 1980s then he might not have been able to read what was there in past inventories. Pat, Ross Cameron wrote: >Pat, > >I presume that what you have is a unpublished transcription. There are at least two published transcriptions. > >Lawrence County, Missouri, Tombstone Inscriptions, Vol. 5, Buck Prairie Township, Fairview Cemetery (also known as Grammer), pp. 113-114, published by the Lawrence County Historical Society, 1987. It was surveyed by Mrs. Loyd B. Ellis and Hazel Pannell and presented to the Rachel Donelson Chapter of the NSDAR, Springfield, Mo. > >Lawrence County, Missouri, Tombstone Inscriptions, Vol. 1, Grammer Cemetery, pp. 60-62, published by Mary M. Curry, 1970. > >There are some significant differences between these two transcriptions. Mrs. Curry's transcription has more stones, including: >a second stone for Nancy Cline without the name Witherspoon; >William and Mariah Cox; >Peterson, Martha, (Isabell?), Ervin? J.?, J. L., and infant Grammer; >Nancy C. (1870-1872) and John C. McNatt; and >George N. McNeill. > >LCHS lists the following stone not in Curry: >Judy R. McNatt (1810-1859) > >LCHS lists Martin V. McNatt and Curry lists Martin V. Wheat with the same date of death and LCHS lists age at death which Curry does not. > >LCHS lists: >Hubbard, Mary E., dau. of Wm. Hubbard, born 12 Nov 1852, no death dates >Curry lists: >Hubbard, no name-stone broken & part gone, 12 Nov 1852 - 12 Jan 1874 >By combining the two, the full name and dates of birth and death are known. > >There are other differences such as: >LCHS lists Sarah Lemaster and Curry lists Sarah I. Brashers, wife of W. W., but both have the same dates of birth and death. Is this Sarah I. McNatt who married William W. Brashears in Nov. 1865? It appears as if "I. Brashers" was read as "Lemaster". > >LCHS lists Charles R. and Nancy Galloway; Curry lists Calloway, though in a marriage note she lists Galoway. > >There are other differences in spellings of names, dates, and other information. > >Pat, if your transcription is not one of the above, then it would be valuable to see if there are additional differences or which of the above differences the transcription that you have matches. > >Mrs. Curry noted that at time the cemetery was overgrown and Peterson and Martha Grammer's stones were under some bushes, both down and partially covered with soil. It appears as if other stones were down, missing, etc., when Mrs. Loyd and Pannell surveyed it. It has since been cleaned, etc., but I don't know if a new reading has been done. > >My great, great, great aunt, Rachel W. (Patton) Moore, first wife of James Marion Moore, is buried here. > >I have four transcriptions of Lower South Bend Cemetery, also known as Patton, Hoshaw, Shelton, Mahan, Hopewell, etc. and there are differences between all four. > >Some stones may have been standing, down, buried, broken, or reset between transcriptions. Different people read the stones differently. And there are often typographical errors by the time it gets published. So it doesn't hurt to have more than one transcription. AND YOU SHOULD TRANSCRIBE IT YOURSELF whenever possible, as well as photograph and/or video it. > >Ross Cameron > > > >>>>[email protected] 05/12/03 04:43PM >>> >>>> >>>> >I was looking through my McNatt stuff today and realized that the >cemetery that I have always called the Old McNatt Cemetery (near >Marionville, Mo) is also called the Fairview Cemetery or sometimes >called Grammar Graveyard. It is 1 1/2 miles N.W. of Marionville, Mo. in >Lawrence CO. out in the middle of a field on Jim Carr's property. I >have the list of the tomb stones from there and had intended to >transcribe it. It is a very badly many times copied typed list that is >difficult to read. If anyone is interested it might get me more >interested in trying to type it up. :-) I am worried that the tornado >may have damaged it and will check when I visit in a couple of weeks. >Pat, > > > > > >==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== >Whoops! Deleted a message you needed? 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Ross, I suspect that this could be a combination of both lists with some additional information from whoever put it together. Mom doesn't know who did it and says it was with some of her sister's things (Carol A.McNatt d. 1999). Would it be possible to get a copy of both lists so I can see if I have all of the dates correct? Or do I have to go see for myself, hope the cemetery is still there. Some of this is really difficult and one date just got copied out. Pat, Ross Cameron wrote: >Pat, > >Yes, that is my 3-greats aunt. Don McNeill sent me a photograph of her tombstone awhile back. The LCHS list transcribes her name as Rachael, but Curry's lists Rachel which is correct. > >LCHS lists 69 tombstones, on one of which neither the names nor dates are legible. > >Curry lists 77 stones. > >Ross > > > >>>>[email protected] 05/13/03 01:03PM >>> >>>> >>>> >Ross, >Let me get this transcribed so I can read it with some intelligence. > There is Rachel W. Moore b.Jan 14, 1817 d March 12, 1893 on the list I >have and there are seventy four headstones listed. How many are on the >other lists? It says that there are a lot of graves marked with sand >stones with no names. So this may be recent. I don't know where it came >from or who typed it. I will put it out for anyone's use as soon as I >get it figured out. If this is from a McNatt cousin that I know was in >the area searching for graves in the 1980s then he might not have been >able to read what was there in past inventories. >Pat, > >Ross Cameron wrote: > > > >>Pat, >> >>I presume that what you have is a unpublished transcription. There are at least two published transcriptions. >> >>Lawrence County, Missouri, Tombstone Inscriptions, Vol. 5, Buck Prairie Township, Fairview Cemetery (also known as Grammer), pp. 113-114, published by the Lawrence County Historical Society, 1987. It was surveyed by Mrs. Loyd B. Ellis and Hazel Pannell and presented to the Rachel Donelson Chapter of the NSDAR, Springfield, Mo. >> >>Lawrence County, Missouri, Tombstone Inscriptions, Vol. 1, Grammer Cemetery, pp. 60-62, published by Mary M. Curry, 1970. >> >>There are some significant differences between these two transcriptions. Mrs. Curry's transcription has more stones, including: >>a second stone for Nancy Cline without the name Witherspoon; >>William and Mariah Cox; >>Peterson, Martha, (Isabell?), Ervin? J.?, J. L., and infant Grammer; >>Nancy C. (1870-1872) and John C. McNatt; and >>George N. McNeill. >> >>LCHS lists the following stone not in Curry: >>Judy R. McNatt (1810-1859) >> >>LCHS lists Martin V. McNatt and Curry lists Martin V. Wheat with the same date of death and LCHS lists age at death which Curry does not. >> >>LCHS lists: >>Hubbard, Mary E., dau. of Wm. Hubbard, born 12 Nov 1852, no death dates >>Curry lists: >>Hubbard, no name-stone broken & part gone, 12 Nov 1852 - 12 Jan 1874 >>By combining the two, the full name and dates of birth and death are known. >> >>There are other differences such as: >>LCHS lists Sarah Lemaster and Curry lists Sarah I. Brashers, wife of W. W., but both have the same dates of birth and death. Is this Sarah I. McNatt who married William W. Brashears in Nov. 1865? It appears as if "I. Brashers" was read as "Lemaster". >> >>LCHS lists Charles R. and Nancy Galloway; Curry lists Calloway, though in a marriage note she lists Galoway. >> >>There are other differences in spellings of names, dates, and other information. >> >>Pat, if your transcription is not one of the above, then it would be valuable to see if there are additional differences or which of the above differences the transcription that you have matches. >> >>Mrs. Curry noted that at time the cemetery was overgrown and Peterson and Martha Grammer's stones were under some bushes, both down and partially covered with soil. It appears as if other stones were down, missing, etc., when Mrs. Loyd and Pannell surveyed it. It has since been cleaned, etc., but I don't know if a new reading has been done. >> >>My great, great, great aunt, Rachel W. (Patton) Moore, first wife of James Marion Moore, is buried here. >> >>I have four transcriptions of Lower South Bend Cemetery, also known as Patton, Hoshaw, Shelton, Mahan, Hopewell, etc. and there are differences between all four. >> >>Some stones may have been standing, down, buried, broken, or reset between transcriptions. Different people read the stones differently. And there are often typographical errors by the time it gets published. So it doesn't hurt to have more than one transcription. AND YOU SHOULD TRANSCRIBE IT YOURSELF whenever possible, as well as photograph and/or video it. >> >>Ross Cameron >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>[email protected] 05/12/03 04:43PM >>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>I was looking through my McNatt stuff today and realized that the >>cemetery that I have always called the Old McNatt Cemetery (near >>Marionville, Mo) is also called the Fairview Cemetery or sometimes >>called Grammar Graveyard. It is 1 1/2 miles N.W. of Marionville, Mo. in >>Lawrence CO. out in the middle of a field on Jim Carr's property. I >>have the list of the tomb stones from there and had intended to >>transcribe it. It is a very badly many times copied typed list that is >>difficult to read. If anyone is interested it might get me more >>interested in trying to type it up. :-) I am worried that the tornado >>may have damaged it and will check when I visit in a couple of weeks. >>Pat, >> >> >> >> >> >>==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== >>Whoops! Deleted a message you needed? 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Good Morning Everyone, In case any of you Biddlecome's are interested, I believe the Myrtle in the David Biddlecome household below in the 1900 census married Ezra Estus around 1910. They moved to Visalia, California by the 1940s. They had one son and four daughters, one of whom, Thelma married my mother's brother Milton Sexton. My aunt Thelma and Uncle Milton had four children. I have more information on their descendants, and a cousin should sound send me more details, including on Ezra and Myrtle's other children. As we visited my aunt and uncle several times a year, we saw Ezra and Myrtle often. Ezra made a mean persimmon cookie. On a much sadder note, Eunice Bryant Sexton, the wife of my mother's oldest brother, Raymond Sexton, passed away on Sunday afternoon. Although, she had been in poor health for a number of years, she was surrounded by children, grandchildren, great grandchildren at her peaceful death. She was my only remaining aunt/uncle, and I am very glad I was able to see her a couple of months ago (and I copied down her recipes for homemade ketchup and apple butter). I will pass the Biddlecome emails to a cousin. Best Regards, Janet Hunter In a message dated 5/13/2003 6:28:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > 1900 Census, Missouri, Lawrence County, Mount Pleasant Township, family 171: > David C. Biddlecome Jul 1861-38 Yr. M-16 Mo. Mo. Mo. Farmer > Sarah A. Jan 1864-36 Yr. 7-4 Mo. Tn. Mo. > Hattie L. (f) Feb-1886-14 Yr. Mo. Mo. Mo. > Myrtle I. (f) Mar 1890-10 Yr. Mo. Mo. Mo. > Gladys A. (f) Dec 1893- 6 Yr. Mo. Mo. Mo. > William E. (m) Jan 1898- 2 Yr. Mo. Mo. Mo. > Edward Brown (m) Mar 1877-23 Yr. Mo. Ukn. Ukn. Farm Lab >