Can anyone give me the exact name of the old early 1900s or late 1800 book that was written about the history of Lawrence County Missouri. I know where a copy is, but can't get access to it and want to see if I can buy one. Any information would be appreciated. Pat,

James,(Jim Dad" Weston, and Elizabeth Babb, G G Grandparents. Hannah Weston and Nathan S. Thomas G Grandparents. Aggie B. Thomas, and Marion Sanford Powers, Grandparents. My G G Grandparents are buried at Roller Ridge, Seligman. Many of my Weston and Thomas ancestors are buried there in Lawrence and Barry Counties. Some went down to Lincoln, Washington Co. Arkansas, where my Mother was born and raised. Jim Dad Weston led a wagon train from greene Co TN to Barry Co. Mo in 1851. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilma Fields" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] [Fwd: In concert at Baptist Hill, May 29, 1921] > Candy, > > Who are your ancestors? > > Wilma > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lawrence County Query, Biography, Obituary, Will, Deed, Bible, Pension, etc., Boards at: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.st ates.missouri.counties.lawrence > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Please!! JPEG would be great, Thanks. Candy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Miller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] [Fwd: In concert at Baptist Hill, May 29, 1921] > Elizabeth, > My entire list consists of my father. :-) Do you want the picture? > Pat, > > Elizabeth Taylor wrote: > > >Hi Pat! I'm new to this board, but have had ancestors in Lawrence and Barry > >Counties since the early 1800's. I would love to be on your list for a copy > >too. It would be wonderful if some names were with it. Thanks, Candy Taylor, > >Huntsville, AL > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Pat Miller" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 8:18 PM > >Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] [Fwd: In concert at Baptist Hill, May 29, 1921] > > > > > > > > > >>Man, what a response. I have the option to jpg the file or put it in a > >>PDD file. I can do other's too, but they don't down load and copy/print > >>easily. PDD would only open in a Photo program like Adobe Photo Shop. > >> I can try attaching both kinds of files and you can pick your poison. > >> I'll wait a couple of more days before I send this to give people a > >>chance to contact me. Then, I will do it all at one feld swoop. That > >>is with an email attachment. If that doesn't work for you then we'll go > >>from there. This isn't a money thing for me...but I might call in > >>favors. ;-) Anyone have a "Lawrence County History" book they want to > >>get rid of? I mean the big one done in near 1900. > >>Pat, > >> > >>Pat Miller wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> I sent this and it didn't seem to make it....so one more time. > >>>Pat, > >>> > >>>- > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>I just found a picture (bad condition, but good enough to see the > >>>people) of a lot of kids titled : Part of Halltown, Brown Springs, > >>>Plano, Round Grove, Bladel Cha;el, and McKinley Class of the Parker > >>>Music Teachers of Mt. Vernon, Mo., in Concert at Baptist Hill, Mayb > >>>29, 1921--Hinton Photo. I don't want to mess with it unless someone > >>>really really wants to see if any of their people are in it. There are > >>>all the way from young kids to young adults and some not so young > >>>adults. My Dad is in it and would have been eleven years old...would > >>>estimate about 80 people in the picture. If anyone wants it and can > >>>identify anyone, I need to know who they identified and exactly which > >>>one it is. I'll make an inventory when I identify as many as possible > >>>and send it to the Lawrence County History Library in Mt. Vernon. > >>>Pat Miller > >>>Dallas > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > >>>Visit the Lawrence County Query, Biography, Obituary, Will, Deed, > >>>Bible, Pension, etc., Boards at: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.s t > >ates.missouri.counties.lawrence > > > > > >>>============================== > >>>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >>>records, go to: > >>>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >>==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > >>Visit the Lawrence County Query, Biography, Obituary, Will, Deed, Bible, > >> > >> > >Pension, etc., Boards at: > > > > > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.s t > >ates.missouri.counties.lawrence > > > > > >>============================== > >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >> > >> > >go to: > > > > > >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > >Whoops! Deleted a message you needed? Search archived messages on this list by entering MOLAWREN-L in the search field at: > >http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > More Lawrence County information can be found at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~molawre2/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I would like to have copies when you have time to scan and send as my mother's family were all long time residents of Pierce City settling there in the 1880's.In fact a first cousin of mine, Gene Kluck had a business on Main Street. I also will pay for copying and postage costs if you wish to send hard copies. Thank you for offer to provide pictures. Leo Mills(Kluck,Heeter,Radke and Blinzler lines in Pierce City)

I have family that was directing some of the first response to Pierce City tornado. I have 9 firsthand photos of the devastation. Most of them are taken up and down Main, primarily on the north side of the street. If anyone has particular interest, I will scan and send a couple to you - likely one at a time because I have AOL.

Whenever you can scan and send them, I would love to have them for my family history. I was unable to get any pictures except those of the First Baptist Church.------or. if you contact me at my e-mail, and it would be easier to have copies made to send "snail mail", I will pay the cost of copying and provide my mailing address. Thanks! Wilma Fields [email protected]

Sharon, Same here, and I just repost them after about 24 hours. I have this happen on other forums too. So, what is it you want to talk about? Pat Miller Sharon Ford wrote: >Hi, > >I've sent 2 messages to the "List" this past week and neither have posted. Are my messages being received? They are not bouncing back to me. Thanks. > >Sharon Ford >Van Nuys, CA > > >==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== >Visit the Lawrence County Query, Biography, Obituary, Will, Deed, Bible, Pension, etc., Boards at: >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.lawrence > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Elizabeth, My entire list consists of my father. :-) Do you want the picture? Pat, Elizabeth Taylor wrote: >Hi Pat! I'm new to this board, but have had ancestors in Lawrence and Barry >Counties since the early 1800's. I would love to be on your list for a copy >too. It would be wonderful if some names were with it. Thanks, Candy Taylor, >Huntsville, AL > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Pat Miller" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 8:18 PM >Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] [Fwd: In concert at Baptist Hill, May 29, 1921] > > > > >>Man, what a response. I have the option to jpg the file or put it in a >>PDD file. I can do other's too, but they don't down load and copy/print >>easily. PDD would only open in a Photo program like Adobe Photo Shop. >> I can try attaching both kinds of files and you can pick your poison. >> I'll wait a couple of more days before I send this to give people a >>chance to contact me. Then, I will do it all at one feld swoop. That >>is with an email attachment. If that doesn't work for you then we'll go >>from there. This isn't a money thing for me...but I might call in >>favors. ;-) Anyone have a "Lawrence County History" book they want to >>get rid of? I mean the big one done in near 1900. >>Pat, >> >>Pat Miller wrote: >> >> >> >>> I sent this and it didn't seem to make it....so one more time. >>>Pat, >>> >>>- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>I just found a picture (bad condition, but good enough to see the >>>people) of a lot of kids titled : Part of Halltown, Brown Springs, >>>Plano, Round Grove, Bladel Cha;el, and McKinley Class of the Parker >>>Music Teachers of Mt. Vernon, Mo., in Concert at Baptist Hill, Mayb >>>29, 1921--Hinton Photo. I don't want to mess with it unless someone >>>really really wants to see if any of their people are in it. There are >>>all the way from young kids to young adults and some not so young >>>adults. My Dad is in it and would have been eleven years old...would >>>estimate about 80 people in the picture. If anyone wants it and can >>>identify anyone, I need to know who they identified and exactly which >>>one it is. I'll make an inventory when I identify as many as possible >>>and send it to the Lawrence County History Library in Mt. Vernon. >>>Pat Miller >>>Dallas >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== >>>Visit the Lawrence County Query, Biography, Obituary, Will, Deed, >>>Bible, Pension, etc., Boards at: >>> >>> >>> >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.st >ates.missouri.counties.lawrence > > >>>============================== >>>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >>>records, go to: >>>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >>> >>> >>> >> >>==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== >>Visit the Lawrence County Query, Biography, Obituary, Will, Deed, Bible, >> >> >Pension, etc., Boards at: > > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.st >ates.missouri.counties.lawrence > > >>============================== >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >> >> >go to: > > >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> >> >> > > >==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== >Whoops! Deleted a message you needed? Search archived messages on this list by entering MOLAWREN-L in the search field at: >http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Candy, Who are your ancestors? Wilma

Hi Pat! I'm new to this board, but have had ancestors in Lawrence and Barry Counties since the early 1800's. I would love to be on your list for a copy too. It would be wonderful if some names were with it. Thanks, Candy Taylor, Huntsville, AL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Miller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] [Fwd: In concert at Baptist Hill, May 29, 1921] > Man, what a response. I have the option to jpg the file or put it in a > PDD file. I can do other's too, but they don't down load and copy/print > easily. PDD would only open in a Photo program like Adobe Photo Shop. > I can try attaching both kinds of files and you can pick your poison. > I'll wait a couple of more days before I send this to give people a > chance to contact me. Then, I will do it all at one feld swoop. That > is with an email attachment. If that doesn't work for you then we'll go > from there. This isn't a money thing for me...but I might call in > favors. ;-) Anyone have a "Lawrence County History" book they want to > get rid of? I mean the big one done in near 1900. > Pat, > > Pat Miller wrote: > > > I sent this and it didn't seem to make it....so one more time. > > Pat, > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just found a picture (bad condition, but good enough to see the > > people) of a lot of kids titled : Part of Halltown, Brown Springs, > > Plano, Round Grove, Bladel Cha;el, and McKinley Class of the Parker > > Music Teachers of Mt. Vernon, Mo., in Concert at Baptist Hill, Mayb > > 29, 1921--Hinton Photo. I don't want to mess with it unless someone > > really really wants to see if any of their people are in it. There are > > all the way from young kids to young adults and some not so young > > adults. My Dad is in it and would have been eleven years old...would > > estimate about 80 people in the picture. If anyone wants it and can > > identify anyone, I need to know who they identified and exactly which > > one it is. I'll make an inventory when I identify as many as possible > > and send it to the Lawrence County History Library in Mt. Vernon. > > Pat Miller > > Dallas > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Lawrence County Query, Biography, Obituary, Will, Deed, > > Bible, Pension, etc., Boards at: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.st ates.missouri.counties.lawrence > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lawrence County Query, Biography, Obituary, Will, Deed, Bible, Pension, etc., Boards at: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.st ates.missouri.counties.lawrence > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi, I've sent 2 messages to the "List" this past week and neither have posted. Are my messages being received? They are not bouncing back to me. Thanks. Sharon Ford Van Nuys, CA

I'd prefer the jpg Patricia

Pat, The .jpg would work best for me--thank you! Wilma [email protected]

Man, what a response. I have the option to jpg the file or put it in a PDD file. I can do other's too, but they don't down load and copy/print easily. PDD would only open in a Photo program like Adobe Photo Shop. I can try attaching both kinds of files and you can pick your poison. I'll wait a couple of more days before I send this to give people a chance to contact me. Then, I will do it all at one feld swoop. That is with an email attachment. If that doesn't work for you then we'll go from there. This isn't a money thing for me...but I might call in favors. ;-) Anyone have a "Lawrence County History" book they want to get rid of? I mean the big one done in near 1900. Pat, Pat Miller wrote: > I sent this and it didn't seem to make it....so one more time. > Pat, > > - > > > > > > > > > > > I just found a picture (bad condition, but good enough to see the > people) of a lot of kids titled : Part of Halltown, Brown Springs, > Plano, Round Grove, Bladel Cha;el, and McKinley Class of the Parker > Music Teachers of Mt. Vernon, Mo., in Concert at Baptist Hill, Mayb > 29, 1921--Hinton Photo. I don't want to mess with it unless someone > really really wants to see if any of their people are in it. There are > all the way from young kids to young adults and some not so young > adults. My Dad is in it and would have been eleven years old...would > estimate about 80 people in the picture. If anyone wants it and can > identify anyone, I need to know who they identified and exactly which > one it is. I'll make an inventory when I identify as many as possible > and send it to the Lawrence County History Library in Mt. Vernon. > Pat Miller > Dallas > > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lawrence County Query, Biography, Obituary, Will, Deed, > Bible, Pension, etc., Boards at: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.lawrence > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Is it possible you can scan that picture and send it as an attachment? I went to Baptist Hill as a child. Though I was not born yet when that picture was taken, it is likely many members of my family attended that year. Patricia

Pat or Andrew, I would also like a copy of the photo, if possible, and will gladly pay for any costs. My mother (b. 1910) lived in Mt. Vernon and she also mentioned going to Baptist Hill. I have a post card of Baptist Hill. If a 'copy negative' could be made at a photo shop, I would gladly pay the cost so that copies could be printed from it. If not, would it be possible to scan the photo and send it to others (at their personal e-mail address) as an e-mail attachment? I understand the photo is in poor condition, but perhaps it would work so it could be shared with more of us who are interested. Another possibility is if you have a store, like WalMart, that has one of those Kodak photo copier? It copies the photo instantly, and the operator does have the ability to touch up areas in photos. Four - 4"x6" photos can be copied at one time, or two - 5x7. Pat or Andrew, if there is not one in either of your areas, the photo shop that I goes to has one and I've known the owner for 30 yrs. He frequently makes copies for me and he always trys to enhance or touch them up. Years ago I sent numerous identified photos to the LCHS to be put in the museum, one of which was a photo of one of the sheriffs whose picture did not appear with his bio in the large Lawrence County Missouri History. In 2001 when I was able to make my first trip to Lawrence Co. for a couple of days, I visited the museum and none of the photos were on display. I know all museums have limited space, and it is necessary to store much of their collection. Large museums rotate displays after a period of time to rest them from light. I don't know the policy of the museum in Lawrence County, but it would be a shame to have your photo put into storage. I'm willing to help anyway I can. Sharon Ford Van Nuys, CA [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "andrew c. mcgehee" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] [Fwd: In concert at Baptist Hill, May 29, 1921] > Pat: > I would like to have a copy of the picture. Just let ma know the cost, will > send it to you. > My father ( William Leslie "Les' McGehee ) b. 1904 near McKinley, I have > herd him talk about going to Baptist Hill. I have been there many times. > Hope I can help. > Andrew C. McGehee > Springfield, Mo. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pat Miller" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 5:12 PM > Subject: [MOLAWREN-L] [Fwd: In concert at Baptist Hill, May 29, 1921] > > > > I sent this and it didn't seem to make it....so one more time. > > Pat, > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just found a picture (bad condition, but good enough to see the > > people) of a lot of kids titled : Part of Halltown, Brown Springs, > > Plano, Round Grove, Bladel Cha;el, and McKinley Class of the Parker > > Music Teachers of Mt. Vernon, Mo., in Concert at Baptist Hill, Mayb 29, > > 1921--Hinton Photo. I don't want to mess with it unless someone really > > really wants to see if any of their people are in it. There are all the > > way from young kids to young adults and some not so young adults. My Dad > > is in it and would have been eleven years old...would estimate about 80 > > people in the picture. If anyone wants it and can identify anyone, I > > need to know who they identified and exactly which one it is. I'll make > > an inventory when I identify as many as possible and send it to the > > Lawrence County History Library in Mt. Vernon. > > Pat Miller > > Dallas > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Lawrence County Query, Biography, Obituary, Will, Deed, Bible, > Pension, etc., Boards at: > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.st > ates.missouri.counties.lawrence > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Whoops! Deleted a message you needed? Search archived messages on this list by entering MOLAWREN-L in the search field at: > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Pat: I would like to have a copy of the picture. Just let ma know the cost, will send it to you. My father ( William Leslie "Les' McGehee ) b. 1904 near McKinley, I have herd him talk about going to Baptist Hill. I have been there many times. Hope I can help. Andrew C. McGehee Springfield, Mo. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Miller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 5:12 PM Subject: [MOLAWREN-L] [Fwd: In concert at Baptist Hill, May 29, 1921] > I sent this and it didn't seem to make it....so one more time. > Pat, > > - > > > > > > > > > > > I just found a picture (bad condition, but good enough to see the > people) of a lot of kids titled : Part of Halltown, Brown Springs, > Plano, Round Grove, Bladel Cha;el, and McKinley Class of the Parker > Music Teachers of Mt. Vernon, Mo., in Concert at Baptist Hill, Mayb 29, > 1921--Hinton Photo. I don't want to mess with it unless someone really > really wants to see if any of their people are in it. There are all the > way from young kids to young adults and some not so young adults. My Dad > is in it and would have been eleven years old...would estimate about 80 > people in the picture. If anyone wants it and can identify anyone, I > need to know who they identified and exactly which one it is. I'll make > an inventory when I identify as many as possible and send it to the > Lawrence County History Library in Mt. Vernon. > Pat Miller > Dallas > > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lawrence County Query, Biography, Obituary, Will, Deed, Bible, Pension, etc., Boards at: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.st ates.missouri.counties.lawrence > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Pat, would love to have the picture. it is VERY possible my mother & I can identify some of the people. Wilma Fields [email protected]

I sent this and it didn't seem to make it....so one more time. Pat, - I just found a picture (bad condition, but good enough to see the people) of a lot of kids titled : Part of Halltown, Brown Springs, Plano, Round Grove, Bladel Cha;el, and McKinley Class of the Parker Music Teachers of Mt. Vernon, Mo., in Concert at Baptist Hill, Mayb 29, 1921--Hinton Photo. I don't want to mess with it unless someone really really wants to see if any of their people are in it. There are all the way from young kids to young adults and some not so young adults. My Dad is in it and would have been eleven years old...would estimate about 80 people in the picture. If anyone wants it and can identify anyone, I need to know who they identified and exactly which one it is. I'll make an inventory when I identify as many as possible and send it to the Lawrence County History Library in Mt. Vernon. Pat Miller Dallas

Wilma, Would you please email the picture to me. Thanks Sandy B. [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilma Fields" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 4:32 PM Subject: [MOLAWREN-L] Pierce City Cemetery & First Baptist Church > I was through Pierce City this morning on my way to visit an Uncle in Mt. Vernon. I stopped by the cemetery. Except for one tree, the cemetery was not hit by the tornado---no stones were broken nor toppled. > > If any of you have family history related to the First Baptist Church of Pierce city, I do have a picture I took of the damage. Please feel free to request it, and I will send it to your e-mail address, if you provide it. > > Wilma > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Looking for a town, postoffice, cemetery, creek, etc. > Try the mapping services at USGS GNIS. > http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >