In the 40's many went to CheroKee ,Kn to marry too. Marilyn

Thanks, Wilma. I am not surprised. Maybe someday I will run across a newpaper note about it....I hope. Patricia.

Pat, I know how you feel. I have been searching for a marriage for years! Some of the family are beginning to believe they may have been "common law", but I am not giving up just yet! Hang in there. Just a thought---have you looked in Arkansas? I live in NW Arkansas, and will see if I might run across something in Benton & Washington Counties. Some of my Barry Co. Mo. families married in Arkansas! Wilma

Oh, sorry.....Herbert Virgil Hunt and Pauline Marguerite Harris. Thanks Patricia

Pat, There is no marriage listed for them. Sorry! Wilma

Wilma, I have looked for my parents' marrige record in 13 counties in southwest Mo.(they lived in Mt. Vernon and Aurora), and Kansas, and can't find any public record so far. He was Baptist, so I would really apreciate it if you would look for their marriage on May 3, 1925. thank you so much. Patricia Hunt Rouleau

Patricia, What names am I looking for? Wilma

Shelda, My reply to your e-mail bounced. Do you have a time frame, and is the inquiry only for Lawrence Co.? There are approx. 75 pages with 13 entries per page. I do not have it Indexed yet. Entries are in order by date. Wilma

Hi all! I have available, the records my Grandfather, Rev. F. C. Medearis of Burden, KS.& Carthage, MO., kept of the weddings and funerals he officiated in Cowley Co. KS area, and the areas around Carthage, Duenweg, Webb City, etc. in Jasper Co. MO. There were a few in Lawrence Co. MO and Greene Co. MO, as well. These cover dates between Nov. Dec. 03, 1912 and Dec. 06, 1962. He was a Baptist minister. If you believe he may have officiated at either the wedding or funeral of your family member, I will be more than happy to look it up and send you the information. Wilma Fields

Wilma, thank you so much for the offer. Would you see if you can find anything on: 1) Richard L. Lewis, d. 1919-Joplin, Jasper, MO 2) Thomas J. Lewis, d. 3 Apr 1927. He is bu. in Lee cemetery in Lawrence Co, MO Thank you so much for your time..........Margaret Davis Wilma Fields <[email protected]> wrote: Hi all! I have available, the records my Grandfather, Rev. F. C. Medearis of Burden, KS.& Carthage, MO., kept of the weddings and funerals he officiated in Cowley Co. KS area, and the areas around Carthage, Duenweg, Webb City, etc. in Jasper Co. MO. There were a few in Lawrence Co. MO and Greene Co. MO, as well. These cover dates between Nov. Dec. 03, 1912 and Dec. 06, 1962. He was a Baptist minister. If you believe he may have officiated at either the wedding or funeral of your family member, I will be more than happy to look it up and send you the information. Wilma Fields ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== Looking for a town, postoffice, cemetery, creek, etc. Try the mapping services at USGS GNIS. http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 MARG DAVIS

Wilma, thank you of your kind offer. Would you please check your resources for any Davis, West or Kelly. I really appreciate any assistance you can give, Shelda Davis. My e-mail address is [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilma Fields" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 10:53 AM Subject: [MOLAWREN-L] Weddings & Funerals > Hi all! > > I have available, the records my Grandfather, Rev. F. C. Medearis of Burden, KS.& Carthage, MO., kept of the weddings and funerals he officiated in Cowley Co. KS area, and the areas around Carthage, Duenweg, Webb City, etc. in Jasper Co. MO. There were a few in Lawrence Co. MO and Greene Co. MO, as well. These cover dates between Nov. Dec. 03, 1912 and Dec. 06, 1962. He was a Baptist minister. > If you believe he may have officiated at either the wedding or funeral of your family member, I will be more than happy to look it up and send you the information. > > Wilma Fields > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Looking for a town, postoffice, cemetery, creek, etc. > Try the mapping services at USGS GNIS. > http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Saralie, These are two different kinds of courts and both have existed from the organization of the county. The circuit court is the criminal and civil trial court. It is called circuit because the judges and attorneys were appointed for a group of counties called a judicial circuit or district. They traveled the "circuit" in those counties. The circuit court met in each county at a set time during the year. Each county has a clerk of the circuit court which keeps the records for the court sessions held in that county. In 1874 the office of county Prosecuting Attorney was established to replace the circuit attorney. The county court is an administrative body which conducts the county's business. It is not a trial court. Today it is called the County Commission. The judges of the county court were not trial judges nor lawyers, though some may have been lawyers by private occupation. The Probate Court was established in 1866. Before this probate matters were conducted through the County Court. In 1947, this court became the Probate and Magistrate Court. If you want to read about the activities of these two courts in early Lawrence County, see Goodspeed's 1888 History which Judy Johnson Reustle has put online at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~molawre2/gooda.htm The County Court history begins on page 36 and the Circuit Court history on page 57. This may give you a better undestanding of the differences between these two types of courts. If you want to see the kinds of records that you might find in each court, go to the website of the Secretary of State for Missouri which lists the various kinds of records that might be found in the various county offices. http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/county/croll2.asp Yes, Webster County has had a circuit court since it was organized. The original records are probably in the Office of the Circuit Clerk in Marshfield. The State Archives has microfilm of these records. The list of microfilms for Webster County records, including the Circuit Court which start in 1855, are at: http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/county/webster.pdf Ross Cameron >>> [email protected] 07/24/03 01:12AM >>> This item was interesting to me, esp the notation about a circuit court of the time. Was there a similar circuit that included Webster County? If so, where would the records of that circuit be stored? They do not appear to be in Webster County. Also, does anyone know when the circuit courts ceased and county courts begain in Missouri? Thanks, Saralie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 7:43 PM Subject: [MOLAWREN-L] News of Circuit Court, Fall 1865 and misc. > > >From Weekly Patriot published in Springfield, Mo.; Thursday, 9 Nov 1865: > > >From Lawrence County. > > Mt. Vernon, November 6. > > Editors, Patriot: County and Circuit Court commenced here today, his honor, Judge Price, on the bench of the Circuit, but Judge Landrum, President of the County Court, absent on account of severe sickness in his family. > > A large crowd is in attendance, and a considerable amount of business is likely to be transacted. Some land sold at good prices. > > Some cases of interest will likely come up for trial before the Circuit Court this term. One is that of alleged horse stealing by a Union soldier while acting under instruction from his Colonel. The plaintiff in the case is reported to have been rebel at the time, son of Judge James Cherry, of this county. The soldier is James Wilson, brother of our worthy County Clerk. > > Another case is that of rebel Major John Wear, for teaching school without taking the oath of loyalty. He was arraigned before Esquire Davis, whom he threatened by saying if he did not take care he would have him arrested. But the Justice did not scare worth a cent, but bound him over to court. A day or two after his arrest the Major is said to have appeared on the streets of town with an urchin hanging to each arm, and one or two holding on mightily to his coat tail. They all moved on in solemn silence towards the place where the big rebel was wont to teach, and little rebels learn. What they did that day when they arrived there none but themselves know. It will always remain a matter of great uncertainty, shrouded in impenetrable mystery, whether he offered a prayer for Jeff D. the Southern would be Confederacy, or the New Constitution. One thing, however, is said to be a known certainty -- the next day his school played out, just as he will. When asked what he meant by ! te! > aching after his arrest, he heroically replied, "I want to show the people hear what damned little sense they have." It is to be hoped they are convinced of this. > > Another case is that of horse stealing, by a man named Norton. It is said he will produce papers to show he was a Union spy at the time. If so, people will be surprised. > > [Poor Bernard Norton. I still think he's buried in a shallow unmarked grave in Lawrence Co.] > > Also found the following partial advertisement on a page I had copied for other reasons. I believe about the only thing missing is the name of the establishment or firm. > > Weekly Patriot, Thursday, July 6, 1865: > > Will commence its regular tri-weekly trips on Monday, July 3d, and leave Springfield thereafter Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, returning every Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday. Comfortable coaches have been provided, and every effort will be used to accommodate the traveling public. > > For further information, or passage, apply to Wm. Thompson, South street, corner of Walnut, Springfield, Mo., or to the agents, either at Mount Vernon, Sarcoxie, Granby, or Neosho. > > Geo. W. Randolph > > [George W. Randolph lived in McDonald County. He was Circuit Attorney for a while in the circuit which included Dade, Lawrence, Barry, Jasper, Newton and McDonald counties.] > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Looking for a town, postoffice, cemetery, creek, etc. > Try the mapping services at USGS GNIS. > http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== Looking for a town, postoffice, cemetery, creek, etc. Try the mapping services at USGS GNIS. http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

This item was interesting to me, esp the notation about a circuit court of the time. Was there a similar circuit that included Webster County? If so, where would the records of that circuit be stored? They do not appear to be in Webster County. Also, does anyone know when the circuit courts ceased and county courts begain in Missouri? Thanks, Saralie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 7:43 PM Subject: [MOLAWREN-L] News of Circuit Court, Fall 1865 and misc. > > >From Weekly Patriot published in Springfield, Mo.; Thursday, 9 Nov 1865: > > >From Lawrence County. > > Mt. Vernon, November 6. > > Editors, Patriot: County and Circuit Court commenced here today, his honor, Judge Price, on the bench of the Circuit, but Judge Landrum, President of the County Court, absent on account of severe sickness in his family. > > A large crowd is in attendance, and a considerable amount of business is likely to be transacted. Some land sold at good prices. > > Some cases of interest will likely come up for trial before the Circuit Court this term. One is that of alleged horse stealing by a Union soldier while acting under instruction from his Colonel. The plaintiff in the case is reported to have been rebel at the time, son of Judge James Cherry, of this county. The soldier is James Wilson, brother of our worthy County Clerk. > > Another case is that of rebel Major John Wear, for teaching school without taking the oath of loyalty. He was arraigned before Esquire Davis, whom he threatened by saying if he did not take care he would have him arrested. But the Justice did not scare worth a cent, but bound him over to court. A day or two after his arrest the Major is said to have appeared on the streets of town with an urchin hanging to each arm, and one or two holding on mightily to his coat tail. They all moved on in solemn silence towards the place where the big rebel was wont to teach, and little rebels learn. What they did that day when they arrived there none but themselves know. It will always remain a matter of great uncertainty, shrouded in impenetrable mystery, whether he offered a prayer for Jeff D. the Southern would be Confederacy, or the New Constitution. One thing, however, is said to be a known certainty -- the next day his school played out, just as he will. When asked what he meant by ! te! > aching after his arrest, he heroically replied, "I want to show the people hear what damned little sense they have." It is to be hoped they are convinced of this. > > Another case is that of horse stealing, by a man named Norton. It is said he will produce papers to show he was a Union spy at the time. If so, people will be surprised. > > [Poor Bernard Norton. I still think he's buried in a shallow unmarked grave in Lawrence Co.] > > Also found the following partial advertisement on a page I had copied for other reasons. I believe about the only thing missing is the name of the establishment or firm. > > Weekly Patriot, Thursday, July 6, 1865: > > Will commence its regular tri-weekly trips on Monday, July 3d, and leave Springfield thereafter Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, returning every Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday. Comfortable coaches have been provided, and every effort will be used to accommodate the traveling public. > > For further information, or passage, apply to Wm. Thompson, South street, corner of Walnut, Springfield, Mo., or to the agents, either at Mount Vernon, Sarcoxie, Granby, or Neosho. > > Geo. W. Randolph > > [George W. Randolph lived in McDonald County. He was Circuit Attorney for a while in the circuit which included Dade, Lawrence, Barry, Jasper, Newton and McDonald counties.] > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Looking for a town, postoffice, cemetery, creek, etc. > Try the mapping services at USGS GNIS. > http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

>From Weekly Patriot published in Springfield, Mo.; Thursday, 9 Nov 1865: >From Lawrence County. Mt. Vernon, November 6. Editors, Patriot: County and Circuit Court commenced here today, his honor, Judge Price, on the bench of the Circuit, but Judge Landrum, President of the County Court, absent on account of severe sickness in his family. A large crowd is in attendance, and a considerable amount of business is likely to be transacted. Some land sold at good prices. Some cases of interest will likely come up for trial before the Circuit Court this term. One is that of alleged horse stealing by a Union soldier while acting under instruction from his Colonel. The plaintiff in the case is reported to have been rebel at the time, son of Judge James Cherry, of this county. The soldier is James Wilson, brother of our worthy County Clerk. Another case is that of rebel Major John Wear, for teaching school without taking the oath of loyalty. He was arraigned before Esquire Davis, whom he threatened by saying if he did not take care he would have him arrested. But the Justice did not scare worth a cent, but bound him over to court. A day or two after his arrest the Major is said to have appeared on the streets of town with an urchin hanging to each arm, and one or two holding on mightily to his coat tail. They all moved on in solemn silence towards the place where the big rebel was wont to teach, and little rebels learn. What they did that day when they arrived there none but themselves know. It will always remain a matter of great uncertainty, shrouded in impenetrable mystery, whether he offered a prayer for Jeff D. the Southern would be Confederacy, or the New Constitution. One thing, however, is said to be a known certainty -- the next day his school played out, just as he will. When asked what he meant by te! aching after his arrest, he heroically replied, "I want to show the people hear what damned little sense they have." It is to be hoped they are convinced of this. Another case is that of horse stealing, by a man named Norton. It is said he will produce papers to show he was a Union spy at the time. If so, people will be surprised. [Poor Bernard Norton. I still think he's buried in a shallow unmarked grave in Lawrence Co.] Also found the following partial advertisement on a page I had copied for other reasons. I believe about the only thing missing is the name of the establishment or firm. Weekly Patriot, Thursday, July 6, 1865: Will commence its regular tri-weekly trips on Monday, July 3d, and leave Springfield thereafter Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, returning every Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday. Comfortable coaches have been provided, and every effort will be used to accommodate the traveling public. For further information, or passage, apply to Wm. Thompson, South street, corner of Walnut, Springfield, Mo., or to the agents, either at Mount Vernon, Sarcoxie, Granby, or Neosho. Geo. W. Randolph [George W. Randolph lived in McDonald County. He was Circuit Attorney for a while in the circuit which included Dade, Lawrence, Barry, Jasper, Newton and McDonald counties.]

I am new to this list and am seeking information concerning Janie M. WILLOUGHBY. Janie was possibly married to Walter G. WILLOUGHBY. If they were indeed married to each other, I do not know if they were divorced. I do know that Walter died in Kennett, Dunklin County, Missouri on October 1, 1967. I do not know if Janie had any children. Janie was born January 9, 1902 and died August 2, 1992 in Mount Vernon, Missouri. Could someone help me find an obit for Janie or give me a suggestion how to locate one? I appreciate any help in finding any information for Janie. Thank you. Pat ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Thank you Chuck. Yes, that is a help. Patricia

After I posted the links for CMSR info on the NARA website, I browsed around there a bit and found some new stuff I had not seen before. NARA now has indexes online that should let you go directly to the correct microfilm for your soldier's CMSR. There are also indexes online for military service records from the Revolution, War of 1812, and various other conflicts. Check out: http://www.archives.gov/publications/microfilm_catalogs/military/military_se rvice_records.html (that's a long URL, so if it breaks in your email you may need to use cut/paste or type part of it into your browser by hand) Chuck Bennett

At 11:22 AM 7/11/2003 -0400, Patricia wrote: > >> http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss > >Where does one find the film where a film number is listed. Will the film >have any further information? The film numbers given in the database entries of the Civil War Soldiers & Sailors System are references to microfilmed indexes to Compiled Military Service Records (CMSRs), available from the National Archives (NARA). For example, the entry "Roll M232_23" refers to NARA micropublication M232, in roll 23 within that publication (each micropublication is usually on multiple rolls of microfilm). Unfortunately, the creators of the CWSSS used references to the *indexes* and not to the actual CMSRs on film, so once you looked up a particular soldier in that microfilmed index, you would need to order another microfilm to see the actual CMSR. For more about CMSRs and how to order them, see: http://www.archives.gov/research_room/genealogy/military/civil_war_records.h tml For more about ordering microfilms from NARA, see: http://www.archives.gov/publications/how_to_order_microfilm.html The Compiled Military Service Records can have some very interesting information in them, or not much at all. About the only thing you can be certain of finding are listings of each time the soldier appeared by name in unit muster rolls, which will give you an idea of when he was present with his unit, which will give you some idea of what actions he may have been in. You may also find enlistment papers and entries from company descriptive books which will include age, height, hair color, eye color, and complexion. If the soldier died in service, there should be a casualty report. Whether the info in the CMSR is worth the expense will depend on how much you already know about the soldier and how important he is to your research. If he is someone in your direct line or is collateral to one of your "problem" families, the CMSR may provide that key clue that helps you solve the problem. Or it may not. I hope this helps you. Chuck Bennett

Hello Everyone, Perhaps this has been mentioned in the discussion, but there is a Missouri Civil War list at Rootsweb. It is MO-CW. You can subscribe to it just like this one. Although whether that would provide additional information is questionable as we have several subscribers to the Lawrence Co. list who are experts on the issues in question. I joined the above MO-CW list briefly a while ago, primarily because I was following up on Dale West and Ross Cameron's information on my Confederate soldier Henry Bird, and I didn't want to continue appearing as such an ignorant buffoon here! I can tell you that my queries were answered swiftly and with much detail -- though I have still not got around to even asking/exploring whether and how I could find out if Henry Byrd's widow, Lucy, who lived 40 years after his death ever got around to applying for a pension for his Confederate service. Best Regards, Janet Hunter

Thank you very much! On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, Brian Shay wrote: > Many soldiers and regiments did have their images taken both in studios and > in the field. Unfortunately many of the pictures of individuals have have > fallen into the category of unknowns. To see how often this has happened do > a search on ebay.com or check with antique shops and ephemera dealers in > your area. > > One good site to look for images is Carlisle Barracks > > href> http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usamhi/PhotoDB.html > > They have a searchable database, but will not show the images. They will > send a photocopy of the picture(limit of 2 per request, unless you want to > pay) to you. A majority of the images are of Union soldiers and regiments. > > You might be able to find pictures of local units in area Historical > Societies or Colleges. Another source would be State or Regional Historical > Societies or Archives. > > Brian Shay > > > From: "Jack McGehee" <[email protected]> > > Reply-To: "Jack McGehee" <[email protected]> > > Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 10:12:58 -0500 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] Civil War Search & Information > > Resent-From: [email protected] > > Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:12:00 -0600 > > > > I have a question as well along these lines. Where would you go to find > > pictures of the regiments, I know a lot of them had pictures taken as a > > group. > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lawrence County Query, Biography, Obituary, Will, Deed, Bible, Pension, etc., Boards at: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.lawrence > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >