You might try cemetery records and look under your parents' surname for a stillborn baby. There's a collection of cemetery transcriptions for Lawrence County available via the Family History Center. http://www.familysearch.org - Heather On Sun, 27 Jul 2003, Dan Buehler wrote: > I was at a reunion in Monett last week and found out from one of my older cousins that my parent's first child either died at birth or was a late term miscarriage. My parents never mentioned this at all so I had no idea. All these years I thought I had only brothers but I actually had (or almost had) an older sister. To sum it up, I was somewhat surprised. > > Anyway, my questions for the group are this: How would I go about looking for information for this? Were any records kept for still births? Miscarriages? I don't know how to attack this one so any help is appreciated. > > All I know is that this would have occurred between 1923 and 1928 in either Lawrence County, North Barry County or Greene County. > > Thanks. > > Dan > Way down here in hot, muggy and rainy Florida. > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Looking for a town, postoffice, cemetery, creek, etc. > Try the mapping services at USGS GNIS. > http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I was at a reunion in Monett last week and found out from one of my older cousins that my parent's first child either died at birth or was a late term miscarriage. My parents never mentioned this at all so I had no idea. All these years I thought I had only brothers but I actually had (or almost had) an older sister. To sum it up, I was somewhat surprised. Anyway, my questions for the group are this: How would I go about looking for information for this? Were any records kept for still births? Miscarriages? I don't know how to attack this one so any help is appreciated. All I know is that this would have occurred between 1923 and 1928 in either Lawrence County, North Barry County or Greene County. Thanks. Dan Way down here in hot, muggy and rainy Florida.

Her name was Rhoda Orleana(West) Davis. Her parent were Joseph West & Rhoda L. Kelly. She ran a cafe in Noel, Missouri. Her children were Bert, Lewis, Eligh G., Juanita Hull & Mary Lucinda Ratliff. Yes, they were mostly in Monett and are buried at Jolly Bethel cemetery. I have picture of my grandmother Davis. Shelda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilma Fields" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] VA Mount Vernon > Shelda, > > What was S. E. Davis' wife's name, maiden too, if you know it ? I have some > Davis that married into some of my family lines. They were in Barry, > Lawrence, Co's----actually all over SW Mo..\ > > Wilma > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Whoops! Deleted a message you needed? Search archived messages on this list by entering MOLAWREN-L in the search field at: > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Shelda, What was S. E. Davis' wife's name, maiden too, if you know it ? I have some Davis that married into some of my family lines. They were in Barry, Lawrence, Co's----actually all over SW Mo..\ Wilma

Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:24 AM Hi Judy, I'm Lorrie Shorney, Medical Records Secretary. We have records from 1907 to present on patients. Some patients from the early years I would only have the admission and discharge dates and admitting diagnoses. From the 30's and 40's on I would have on microfilm. To get the records we need a release of information signed by the person if still living, If deceased the executor of the will or next of kin. I can send a release to anyone who requests one. If you have any other questions you can E-mail me at "[email protected]" or call me at 417-461-5345. Lorrie shorney

He has parkinsons also , so no gain to health there. Just a survival. ----- Original Message ----- From: "skempto" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] Att: Lonnie > I'm sure he did. He died in 1939 with Parkinson disease. I'm trying to > find month, day of his death and name of his parents. Thank you for your > offer. Hope Mr. Lawson is well and continues to improve. Shelda > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Walsie Aday" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 10:59 AM > Subject: [MOLAWREN-L] Att: Lonnie > > > > Is he getting goof services? > > Walsie > > > > lonnie lawson wrote: > > > > >My father Henry Lawson is in the VA nursing home in Mt. Vernon,, if i can > > >help i would be glad to. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Did you have a family member in the Mount Vernon hospital? My > grandfather > > >>died in 1939; complete date unk. I live in Arizona and medical problems > > >>don't permit to travel to Missouri to visit. Perhaps, together, we can > > >> > > >> > > >find > > > > > > > > >>out more about this place. skempto > > >>----- > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>I also am interested in finding our about Mount Vernon VA Hospital. > > >>>Any information is welcome. > > >>>Walsie > > >>> > > >>>skempto wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >> > > >> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > > Whoops! Deleted a message you needed? Search archived messages on this > list by entering MOLAWREN-L in the search field at: > > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Looking for a town, postoffice, cemetery, creek, etc. > Try the mapping services at USGS GNIS. > http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

excellent services , so much better than a home that he was in, waiting to get him in the VA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walsie Aday" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 12:59 PM Subject: [MOLAWREN-L] Att: Lonnie > Is he getting goof services? > Walsie > > lonnie lawson wrote: > > >My father Henry Lawson is in the VA nursing home in Mt. Vernon,, if i can > >help i would be glad to. > > > > > > > > > >>Did you have a family member in the Mount Vernon hospital? My grandfather > >>died in 1939; complete date unk. I live in Arizona and medical problems > >>don't permit to travel to Missouri to visit. Perhaps, together, we can > >> > >> > >find > > > > > >>out more about this place. skempto > >>----- > >> > >> > >> > >>>I also am interested in finding our about Mount Vernon VA Hospital. > >>>Any information is welcome. > >>>Walsie > >>> > >>>skempto wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> > >> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Whoops! Deleted a message you needed? Search archived messages on this list by entering MOLAWREN-L in the search field at: > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Wilma, thank you so very much for your time and efforts. I greatly appreciate it. Marg Wilma Fields <[email protected]> wrote:Margaret, I am not sure if I replied to your inquiry. No Lewis's in those time frames or locations Wilma ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== More Lawrence County information can be found at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~molawre2/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 MARG DAVIS

Saralie, I have put a request for copy of Mo. laws prior to 1921 concerning common law marriages. I had found them once, but have had trouble finding the correct link again. I did find the following, but not exactly what you are wanting. Will let you know when I get the info. Wilma State Historical Society of Missouri Marriage and Divorce Records in Missouri http://www.system.missouri.edu/shs/marriage.html Marriage records are not necessarily recorded in the county where they are performed. Prior to June 26, 1881, no marriage license was required; the marriage was recorded at any convenient courthouse. Since 1881 licenses have been required. A portion of the license is returned to the Recorder where the license was obtained and the marriage is recorded in that county only. A marriage license is valid anywhere inside the boundaries of the state. Common law marriages have been prohibited in Missouri since June 20, 1921; persons involved in such relationships have no legal interest in common property unless both names are on deeds, etc.

I'm sure he did. He died in 1939 with Parkinson disease. I'm trying to find month, day of his death and name of his parents. Thank you for your offer. Hope Mr. Lawson is well and continues to improve. Shelda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walsie Aday" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 10:59 AM Subject: [MOLAWREN-L] Att: Lonnie > Is he getting goof services? > Walsie > > lonnie lawson wrote: > > >My father Henry Lawson is in the VA nursing home in Mt. Vernon,, if i can > >help i would be glad to. > > > > > > > > > >>Did you have a family member in the Mount Vernon hospital? My grandfather > >>died in 1939; complete date unk. I live in Arizona and medical problems > >>don't permit to travel to Missouri to visit. Perhaps, together, we can > >> > >> > >find > > > > > >>out more about this place. skempto > >>----- > >> > >> > >> > >>>I also am interested in finding our about Mount Vernon VA Hospital. > >>>Any information is welcome. > >>>Walsie > >>> > >>>skempto wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> > >> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Whoops! Deleted a message you needed? Search archived messages on this list by entering MOLAWREN-L in the search field at: > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Thanks very much, Wilma. I appreciate your efforts on my behalf. Saralie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilma Fields" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] Weddings & Funerals > > Saralie, > > I have put a request for copy of Mo. laws prior to 1921 concerning common > law marriages. I had found them once, but have had trouble finding the > correct link again. I did find the following, but not exactly what you are > wanting. > > Will let you know when I get the info. > > Wilma > > > State Historical Society of Missouri > Marriage and Divorce Records in Missouri > http://www.system.missouri.edu/shs/marriage.html > > Marriage records are not necessarily recorded in the county where they are > performed. Prior to June 26, 1881, no marriage license was required; the > marriage was recorded at any convenient courthouse. Since 1881 licenses have > been required. A portion of the license is returned to the Recorder where > the license was obtained and the marriage is recorded in that county only. A > marriage license is valid anywhere inside the boundaries of the state. > > Common law marriages have been prohibited in Missouri since June 20, 1921; > persons involved in such relationships have no legal interest in common > property unless both names are on deeds, etc. > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Looking for a town, postoffice, cemetery, creek, etc. > Try the mapping services at USGS GNIS. > http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Is he getting goof services? Walsie lonnie lawson wrote: >My father Henry Lawson is in the VA nursing home in Mt. Vernon,, if i can >help i would be glad to. > > > > >>Did you have a family member in the Mount Vernon hospital? My grandfather >>died in 1939; complete date unk. I live in Arizona and medical problems >>don't permit to travel to Missouri to visit. Perhaps, together, we can >> >> >find > > >>out more about this place. skempto >>----- >> >> >> >>>I also am interested in finding our about Mount Vernon VA Hospital. >>>Any information is welcome. >>>Walsie >>> >>>skempto wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>

My father Henry Lawson is in the VA nursing home in Mt. Vernon,, if i can help i would be glad to. ----- Original Message ----- From: "skempto" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] VA Mount Vernon > Did you have a family member in the Mount Vernon hospital? My grandfather > died in 1939; complete date unk. I live in Arizona and medical problems > don't permit to travel to Missouri to visit. Perhaps, together, we can find > out more about this place. skempto > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Walsie Aday" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 11:09 AM > Subject: [MOLAWREN-L] VA Mount Vernon > > > > I also am interested in finding our about Mount Vernon VA Hospital. > > Any information is welcome. > > Walsie > > > > skempto wrote: > > > > >Wilma, I received it. Thanks for your time and trouble. Do you have an > > >address for a VA hospital in Mount Vernon? My alcoholic grandfather was > put > > >miles away from neighbors to hide from shame. My grandmother was > always > > >worried about what others thought. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Lawrence County Query, Biography, Obituary, Will, Deed, Bible, > Pension, etc., Boards at: > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.st ates.missouri.counties.lawrence > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Looking for a town, postoffice, cemetery, creek, etc. > Try the mapping services at USGS GNIS. > http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

skempto, I go to the Veteran's hospital to visit my uncle on average once a month. Exactly what information are you wanting? History? specific records? I can inquire for you next visit. Just tell me what questions to ask. Wilma

No I do not just wondering what they have to offer. Walsie skempto wrote: >Did you have a family member in the Mount Vernon hospital? My grandfather >died in 1939; complete date unk. I live in Arizona and medical problems >don't permit to travel to Missouri to visit. Perhaps, together, we can find >out more about this place. skempto >-- >

Saralie, I will need to do some looking through my files. I have had that particular information before. Will get back to you. Wilma

Margaret, I am not sure if I replied to your inquiry. No Lewis's in those time frames or locations Wilma

I have written a letter to the hospital. I am looking for the information on my grandfather. His name was S. E. Davis or Steven Elbert Davis. He was also called "Elzy".He was born on September 10, 1870. I am looking for place of his birth or his parents name. I am his granddaughter. My name is shelda (Davis) Kempton.My father was his son, Eligh Davis. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Shelda Kempton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilma Fields" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] VA Mount Vernon > skempto, > > I go to the Veteran's hospital to visit my uncle on average once a month. > Exactly what information are you wanting? History? specific records? I can > inquire for you next visit. Just tell me what questions to ask. > > Wilma > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Whoops! Deleted a message you needed? Search archived messages on this list by entering MOLAWREN-L in the search field at: > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Thanks, Wilma. No rush about it, I have an instance where I'm hunting for a new search direction, trying to work my way around a brick wall... Saralie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilma Fields" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] Weddings & Funerals > > Saralie, > > I will need to do some looking through my files. I have had that particular > information before. Will get back to you. > > Wilma > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Whoops! Deleted a message you needed? Search archived messages on this list by entering MOLAWREN-L in the search field at: > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

thx Patricia for your response. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] Weddings & Funerals > I'm not sure what the VA hospital is called now, but I think this may be it. > > Patricia > > > > > Missouri Rehabilitation Ctr > > Jump to: <A HREF="http://aolsvc.yp.aol.com/#addinfo">Additional Information</A>, <A HREF="http://aolsvc.yp.aol.com/#raterev">Ratings & Reviews</A> () > > 600 N Main St > Mt Vernon, MO 65712 > Main Phone: 417-466-3711 > > > > > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lawrence County Query, Biography, Obituary, Will, Deed, Bible, Pension, etc., Boards at: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.lawrence > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >