Pat, Thanks for the information. Yes, historically it is very helpful. I wonder if the Whites would answer a letter from me? Do you have the name of the store and/or the address? Happy researching! Sharon Ford ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Miller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] Masonic Research > Sharon, > I know this won't be a lot of help, but maybe historically it will. The > Lodge used to meet upstairs in the building where Jerry and Thelma White > have their antique store in Halltown Missouri. The White's seem to have > a lot of historical information about Halltown and Rock Prairie. The > big lodge in Aurora is currently a private home owned by Bill McClure. > Bill has been in the antique business for many years and probably could > tell you where the Masonic records are for Aurora (My grandfather, > ggrandfather, etc. were Masons, but I don' t know the answers to your > other questions) > > Sharon Ford wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >I just finished reading a very interesting article "Masonic Research: Did Your Ancestors Join?" by Bruce Black in The Searcher, Summer 2003. Volume 40, No. 1, pg-188. The Searcher is a publication of the Southern California Genealogical Society [ http://www.scgsgenealogy.com ]. I would like to search for the Masonic records of my ancestors and I have a few questions. > > > >1. Has anyone on the Dade or Lawrence County lists done any research on the Masonic affiliation of their ancestors in the same counties? Please tell me, what do the initials "A. F. & A. M." and "D. D. G. M." mean? > > > >Both my gr grandfather, John William Nickel, and my gr, gr grandfather, Thomas Nickel were Masons. Their farms were located between Lawrenceburg and Halltown [closer to Lawrenceburg]. > > > >In the Reprint of Goodspeed's 1888 History of Lawrence County, pg. 129, it states that Thomas Nickle was a member of Mt. Vernon Lodge No. 99 A. F. & A. M. since it's beginning in Jan. 1853. I found the Mt. Vernon Chamber of Commerce website for Fraternal Organizations: http://www.mtvernonchamber.com/AboutOrgs.htm and it gave the address and contact of Dan Ditzler. > >2. Does anyone know if they still have the old records? > > > >In the same book, pg. 166, it states that John W. Nickle was a member of Rock Prairie Lodge No. 267 in Lawrenceburg, and was a Past Master of the year 1883. The article mentioned above stated that if the Masonic ancestor was a Civil War Veteran [Union or Confederate], there would be other information possibly available. > > > >3. Is The Rock Prairie Lodge No. 267 still in existence and do they still have the old records? If not, did this lodge merge with another? I could not find it through any website. He lived Ash Grove the remaining few years of his life. I found a "Masonic Hall" in Ash Grove through the http://www.smartpages.com/directory but is the Hall still a Lodge? The rest of the lodges I found in the area were all listed as a lodge. > > > >4. Do I need to contact the Grand Lodge? If so, does anyone know how to contact them? I Found the website for the Grand Lodge of MIssouri [ http://www.momason.org ] in Kansas City, but no address is given. Note: This site has links to the Missouri Lodges & Districts. If you click on the Masonic Lodges link, you can find the Grand Lodge Sites for other states. > > > >Any information, suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. > > > >Sincerely, > > > >Sharon Ford > >Valley Glen, CA > > > > > >==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > >Visit the Lawrence County Query, Biography, Obituary, Will, Deed, Bible, Pension, etc., Boards at: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.s tates.missouri.counties.lawrence > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > More Lawrence County information can be found at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~molawre2/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi, I just finished reading a very interesting article "Masonic Research: Did Your Ancestors Join?" by Bruce Black in The Searcher, Summer 2003. Volume 40, No. 1, pg-188. The Searcher is a publication of the Southern California Genealogical Society [ http://www.scgsgenealogy.com ]. I would like to search for the Masonic records of my ancestors and I have a few questions. 1. Has anyone on the Dade or Lawrence County lists done any research on the Masonic affiliation of their ancestors in the same counties? Please tell me, what do the initials "A. F. & A. M." and "D. D. G. M." mean? Both my gr grandfather, John William Nickel, and my gr, gr grandfather, Thomas Nickel were Masons. Their farms were located between Lawrenceburg and Halltown [closer to Lawrenceburg]. In the Reprint of Goodspeed's 1888 History of Lawrence County, pg. 129, it states that Thomas Nickle was a member of Mt. Vernon Lodge No. 99 A. F. & A. M. since it's beginning in Jan. 1853. I found the Mt. Vernon Chamber of Commerce website for Fraternal Organizations: http://www.mtvernonchamber.com/AboutOrgs.htm and it gave the address and contact of Dan Ditzler. 2. Does anyone know if they still have the old records? In the same book, pg. 166, it states that John W. Nickle was a member of Rock Prairie Lodge No. 267 in Lawrenceburg, and was a Past Master of the year 1883. The article mentioned above stated that if the Masonic ancestor was a Civil War Veteran [Union or Confederate], there would be other information possibly available. 3. Is The Rock Prairie Lodge No. 267 still in existence and do they still have the old records? If not, did this lodge merge with another? I could not find it through any website. He lived Ash Grove the remaining few years of his life. I found a "Masonic Hall" in Ash Grove through the http://www.smartpages.com/directory but is the Hall still a Lodge? The rest of the lodges I found in the area were all listed as a lodge. 4. Do I need to contact the Grand Lodge? If so, does anyone know how to contact them? I Found the website for the Grand Lodge of MIssouri [ http://www.momason.org ] in Kansas City, but no address is given. Note: This site has links to the Missouri Lodges & Districts. If you click on the Masonic Lodges link, you can find the Grand Lodge Sites for other states. Any information, suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Sincerely, Sharon Ford Valley Glen, CA

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I have found a wonderful new source of information. Especially if we all contribute. Right here on rootsweb. It is for Family Group Sheets. There is a link for every state at this address. And I don't think this has been up and running very long so it's a great idea to get your family information posted early so everyone will see and hopefull share. The address is www.rootsweb.com/~usfgs/ Jo

I am trying to find two Nicholas children. There mother was Eliza Butler, daughter of John and Nancy Butler. I think Eliza married Wilson Nicholas on 05-Feb-1849 in Lawrence County. Eliza is living with her parents in the 1850 census. I think either her parents still counted her or her husband was somewhere else and she was just listed as a Butler. William Perm Nicholas b. 20-Sep-1855 and Martha Ann Nicholas b. 16-Aug-1859. Both children were listed in the Will of John R. Butler in 1866. So I assume Eliza had died along with her husband. I have not been able to find either of the children in the 1860 or 1870 census. Any help finding information on either one of these children, I would be so grateful. Leona Headley 3310 W. Teel Rd. Sapulpa, OK 74066 [email protected]

Saralie, and others! Well, my mail today had part of law pertaining to law of Common Law Marriage in Mo. First, earliest they found was 1879 . Revised Statutes: Sec,3267. Marriage may be solemnized, by whom.--Marriages may be solemnized by any judge, judge of county court and justices of the peace, or any licensed or ordained preacher of the gospel (G.S>.458, 4----b.) (b) Marriage is presumed when parties cohabit, and hold themselves out as man and wife, and there are circumstances from which a present contract may be inferred. 65 Mo. 501. It is a civil contract, and when parties capable of contracting agree, per verba de praesenti, with each other to be husband and wife, and cohabit as such, the marriage is valid, and no ceremony need be performed by a minister of the gospel, or officer of the law, authorized to solemnize marriages. 63 Mo. 501; 66 Mo. 391. As to what constitutes a marriage among savage tribes, the legitimacy of children, see 30 Mo. 72. Second, Revised Statutes 1889 -same as above Third, Revised Statutes 1919---Quite lengthy, but the same. Fourth, Laws of Missouri, Fifty-First General Assembly, January 5, 1921. H. B. 159 AN ACT to amend chapter 63 of the Revised Statutes of the state of Missouri of 1919, entitled "Marriage and marriage contracts," by amending section 7302 of said chapter by adding at the end thereof the following words, " and no marriage hereafter contracted shall be recognized as valid unless such license has been previously obtained and unless such marriage is solemnized by a person authorized by law to solemnize marriages. Common-law marriages hereafter contracted shall be null and void. Provided, however, that no marriage shall be deemed or adjudged invalid, nor shall the vlidity therof be in any way affected on account of any want of authority in any person solemnizing the same under the next preceding section, if consummated with the full belief on the part of the persons, so married or either of them, that they were lawfully joined in marriage. Well, there it is. I would assume then , that at the time Common Law marriage was recognized as valid by the state, that all rights of marriage would have also been in effect. Don't you just love legalese? Wilma

Wilma: Thank you so much for finding this out for me. I truly appreciate it. I am assuming then that she could inherit legally anything worth keeping... Saralie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilma Fields" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 8:28 PM Subject: [MOLAWREN-L] Common Law Marraige Update > > Saralie, and others! > > Well, my mail today had part of law pertaining to law of Common Law Marriage in Mo. > > First, earliest they found was 1879 . > Revised Statutes: Sec,3267. Marriage may be solemnized, by whom.--Marriages may be solemnized by any judge, judge of county court and justices of the peace, or any licensed or ordained preacher of the gospel (G.S>.458, 4----b.) > (b) Marriage is presumed when parties cohabit, and hold themselves out as man and wife, and there are circumstances from which a present contract may be inferred. 65 Mo. 501. It is a civil contract, and when parties capable of contracting agree, per verba de praesenti, with each other to be husband and wife, and cohabit as such, the marriage is valid, and no ceremony need be performed by a minister of the gospel, or officer of the law, authorized to solemnize marriages. 63 Mo. 501; 66 Mo. 391. As to what constitutes a marriage among savage tribes, the legitimacy of children, see 30 Mo. 72. > > Second, Revised Statutes 1889 -same as above > > Third, Revised Statutes 1919---Quite lengthy, but the same. > > Fourth, Laws of Missouri, Fifty-First General Assembly, January 5, 1921. H. B. 159 AN ACT to amend chapter 63 of the Revised Statutes of the state of Missouri of 1919, entitled "Marriage and marriage contracts," by amending section 7302 of said chapter by adding at the end thereof the following words, " and no marriage hereafter contracted shall be recognized as valid unless such license has been previously obtained and unless such marriage is solemnized by a person authorized by law to solemnize marriages. Common-law marriages hereafter contracted shall be null and void. Provided, however, that no marriage shall be deemed or adjudged invalid, nor shall the vlidity therof be in any way affected on account of any want of authority in any person solemnizing the same under the next preceding section, if consummated with the full belief on the part of the persons, so married or either of them, that they were lawfully joined in marriage. > > > Well, there it is. I would assume then , that at the time Common Law marriage was recognized as valid by the state, that all rights of marriage would have also been in effect. > > Don't you just love legalese? > > Wilma > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lawrence County Query, Biography, Obituary, Will, Deed, Bible, Pension, etc., Boards at: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.lawrence > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I'm seeking for any information on Jacob Myers, who was living in 1860 in Montgomery Township, Owen County, Indiana, but by 1870 was living in Lawrence County, Missouri, and in 1880 was in Tomahawk, Searcy County, Arkansas. I've got all the census records for him and his family for these years, but I'd like more data, especially on his Indiana years. He is listed on the 1870 census as unable to vote due to either a crime or rebellion, and I suspect he may have joined a Confederate group in the Civil War, possibly in Missouri. His family apparently stayed back in Indiana when he was gone, and no children were born from about 1861 to 1865. Any information on them would be greatly appreciated, here is what I have on them: Descendants of Jacob Myers Generation No. 1 1. JACOB2 MYERS (UNKNOWN1) was born Abt. 1830 in Indiana (Tennessee or Georgia). He married (1) UNKNOWN. She was born in Indiana. He married (2) MARY, daughter of UNKNOWN. She was born Abt. 1830 in Indiana. He married (3) UNKNOWN. She was born in Indiana. Notes for JACOB MYERS: In 1860 he was living in Montgomery Township, Owen County, Indiana in household 427: 427/417 Jac Myer (or Myir) 29 M Labor 50 Ind. Mary 29, F Haoleuida L 7 F Rebica L 5 F Jac G 3 M Nancy M. 4/12 F In 1870 they were living in Lawrence County, Missouri, page 421. 80/80 Miers, Jacob 38 M W Farmer 650 Ind. He is shown as unable to write and as unable to vote as he took part in a Rebellion (in other words, he was a Confederate veteran). Mary 39, f W Keeping House, Ind. She could not read or write. Candasy 17 F W, Ind, could not read or write Rebecca L 15, F W, Ind Jacob G. 18, M W Works on farm, Ind., Nancy M 10, F W Ind. Simmon 7, M W Ind. James 5, M W, Ind. Anie, 1, F, W., Ind. In 1880 they were living in Tomahawk Township, Searcy County, Arkansas on page 468D Jacob Myers, Farmer, Male, married, White 50, born: IN Father born in TN Mary Myers, Keeping house, Married, White, 50, born: IN Father born in TN Candace Myers, Domestic work, Single, white, 35, born in Indiana William M. Myers, Laborer, single, white, 18, born in Indaina, both parents born there too. James Myers, Laborer, single, white, 15, born in Indiana Sarah Myers, At home, single, white, 12, born in Indiana Alexander Myers, At home, single, white, 9, born in Missouri John Myers, At home, single, white, 4, born in Missouri Beckey Bramlet, At home, widow, white, 23, born in Indiana. Jacob's son Jacob G. was also living nearby with his wife Tennessee E. and their daughter Mary H. Children of JACOB MYERS and MARY are: 2. i. JACOB G.3 MYERS, b. Abt. 1850, Indiana. ii. CANDACE MYERS, b. Abt. 1855, Indiana. iii. REBECCA L. MYERS, b. Abt. 1857, Indiana; m. _ BRAMLET; d. Bef. 1880. iv. NANCY M. MYERS, b. Abt. 1860, Indiana. 3. v. WILLIAM SIMON MYERS, b. October 1861, Indiana or Tennessee; d. Aft. 1920, Arkansas. vi. JAMES MYERS, b. Abt. 1865, Indiana. vii. SARAH (ANNIE?) MYERS, b. Abt. 1868, Indiana. viii. ALEXANDER MYERS, b. Abt. 1871, Missouri. ix. JOHN MYERS, b. Abt. 1876, Missouri. Generation No. 2 2. JACOB G.3 MYERS (JACOB2, UNKNOWN1) was born Abt. 1850 in Indiana. He married TENNESSEE E. __. She was born Abt. 1858 in Tennessee. Notes for JACOB G. MYERS: Living in Tomahawk, Searcy County, Arkansas in 1880, near his father. Child of JACOB MYERS and TENNESSEE __ is: i. MARY H.4 MYERS, b. Abt. 1878, Arkansas. 3. WILLIAM SIMON3 MYERS (JACOB2, UNKNOWN1) was born October 1861 in Indiana or Tennessee, and died Aft. 1920 in Arkansas. He married SOPHRONIA BELLE HARRIS Abt. 1884 in Arkansas, daughter of HARRIS and UNKNOWN. She was born August 1861 in Arkansas, and died Bet. 1910 - 1920 in Marble Township, Madison County, Arkansas. Notes for WILLIAM SIMON MYERS: One descendant claims William had a brother named Mike that only had one arm and was a preacher. On 1900 Fulton County, Arkansas Census for Big Creek Township, #78 Myers, Sim head m w 38 M IN/GA/IN Sephronia wife f w 38 M AR/TN/TN Myrtle dau f w 12 S Walter son m w 12 S Essie dau f w 7 S Eddie son m w 4 S Bertha dau f w 2 S On the 1910 census they were living in Marble Township, Madison County, Arkansas and he again is listed as Sim Myers. 100 100 Mires, Simon Head M W 48 Married 26 years IN/IN/IN Sophroria Wife F W 48 Married 26 years 10 children 7 living AR/AR/AR Edgar Son M W 14 AR/IN/AR Bertha Dau. F W 12 AR/IN/AR Lee Son M W 5 AR/IN/AR Adams Harvey M Son-in-law M W 22 Married 0 years OH/OH/OH Essie F Daughter F W 16 Married 0 years AR/IN/AR On 1920 Madison County, Arkansas Census for Marble Township, #104 William S. Myers hd m w 59 wd IN/TN/TN Irvin L. s m w 15 s AR/IN/AR William Simon could not read or write and rented his farm in Fulton County. Notes for SOPHRONIA BELLE HARRIS: Had a total of 11 children, 7 alive by 1910. She could read and write. Children of WILLIAM MYERS and SOPHRONIA HARRIS are: i. MYRTLE4 MYERS, b. May 1888; m. JAMES HORINE. ii. WALTER MYERS, b. May 1888; m. DOVIE SMITH; b. 1888. iii. ESSIE MYERS, b. May 1893; m. HARVEY M. ADAMS; b. 1888, Ohio. iv. JAMES EDWARD MYERS, b. November 14, 1895, Arkansas; d. March 09, 1972, Oklahoma; m. DELPHIA CAROLINE BERRY, July 28, 1912, Alabam, Arkansas; b. 1884; d. January 18, 1934, Marble, Madison County, Arkansas. v. BERTHA MYERS, b. January 17, 1898, Arkansas; d. December 28, 1925, Arkansas; m. WILLIAM EMMETT BUTLER, December 28, 1913; b. May 26, 1891; d. December 11, 1930. Notes for BERTHA MYERS: [vi. IRVIN LEE MYERS, b. January 27, 1905, Marble, Madison Co. Arkansas; d. July 06, 1942, Buhler, Reno Co. Kansas; m. SYBIL PAULINE VAUGHAN; b. March 17, 1906, Madison Co. Arkansas; d. April 07, 1969, Harrison, Boone Co. Arkansas. Notes for IRVIN LEE MYERS: Died at 6:45 PM on July 6th, 1942. He was a Pumper for Palmer Oil Company, leasing out a farm on the oil-field. Eddie Davis [email protected]

Lorrie Shorney, Are you the person in medical records that helped me find my aunt "Mary Crow"'s information on Monday July 21? If you are- thanks bunches for the help. I will come back eventually and look at the pictures again to see if I can identify her in those between 1929 and July 1931. Do you know if other information is available somewhere there about her family other than through Missouri State Vital Records? Would the Sanatorium have put a death announcement in any of the local papers and would they have had a funeral there for her? I just found out that my dad and his brother attended her funeral, but we don't know where it was. I also found out that her missing sister was there too. Pat Miller Dallas,TX

Saralie, Missouri State Archives just telephoned me to make sure they were getting exactly what I want. They will be sending me the History of the Laws and the exact laws concerning when Common Law Marriage was recognized in Mo. and the law when recognition was repealed in 1921. Should be hearing back within a day or so, and once they receive my check, will mail the copies to me. Wilma

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Saralie, This is also for me, as there is a possibility of a "common law" marriage in my husband's line. Futile searches for a marriage, have made some of us wonder! Hopefully, they will get back to me quicly. Sometimes it take up to 8 weeks to even hear from them. Since the lady contacted me so quickly, I am hoping I will get an answer to how many pages, total cost,etc. I have used Archives many times, and very seldom had to wait as long as they say one might. Wilma

Thanks, Wilma. I appreciate that you are continuing to pursue an answer. In a case where there is no probate file, would the common law wife just keep going into life unless some "legal" heir objects and confiscates whatever there was? I can't imagine that there was much, real estate was rented as far as I can determine, leaving only personal property for anyone to inherit... Saralie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilma Fields" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] Weddings & Funerals > > Saralie, > > Received this from Missouri State Archives today. Hopefully after my > response back to them, I will get the answer for you ( and everyone else on > this board) concerning law in Mo., but it may take a while. > > Wilma > > We have copies of the Laws of Missouri back to 1824. What exactly did you > want concerning this law? Do you want a copy of the law which made common > law marriages illegal or copies of the laws prior to that? Did you want to > come here and view the laws for yourself, or do you want photocopies of the > laws? We can copy them for you at the cost of ten cents per page. Please > let us know your wishes. > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Whoops! Deleted a message you needed? Search archived messages on this list by entering MOLAWREN-L in the search field at: > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Saralie, Received this from Missouri State Archives today. Hopefully after my response back to them, I will get the answer for you ( and everyone else on this board) concerning law in Mo., but it may take a while. Wilma We have copies of the Laws of Missouri back to 1824. What exactly did you want concerning this law? Do you want a copy of the law which made common law marriages illegal or copies of the laws prior to that? Did you want to come here and view the laws for yourself, or do you want photocopies of the laws? We can copy them for you at the cost of ten cents per page. Please let us know your wishes.

Thank you. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Ratcliff" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] VA Mount Vernon > Most of my Butts were from New England. I checked and do not have John > Henry. Sorry. > > Pat Ratcliff > Conover, NC > Researching RATCLIFF, GRABILL, BUTTON, HICKS, > DEWITT, BUTTS, WHEAT, PUTNAM, KENNEDY, > COREY, BURCHETT, TUTTLE > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/r/a/t/Patricia-Louise-Ratcliff/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "izzie" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 10:07 > Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] VA Mount Vernon > > > > Pat > > > > You list Butts in your message, I am looking for a John Henry Butts born > in > > MO in 1878. He married Sarah Osburn in Sunset, Washington Co., Arkansas. > > Would this fit into your line? > > > > Donna > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Pat Ratcliff" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 7:36 PM > > Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] VA Mount Vernon > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > > Looking for a town, postoffice, cemetery, creek, etc. > > Try the mapping services at USGS GNIS. > > http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > More Lawrence County information can be found at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~molawre2/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Most of my Butts were from New England. I checked and do not have John Henry. Sorry. Pat Ratcliff Conover, NC Researching RATCLIFF, GRABILL, BUTTON, HICKS, DEWITT, BUTTS, WHEAT, PUTNAM, KENNEDY, COREY, BURCHETT, TUTTLE http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/r/a/t/Patricia-Louise-Ratcliff/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "izzie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 10:07 Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] VA Mount Vernon > Pat > > You list Butts in your message, I am looking for a John Henry Butts born in > MO in 1878. He married Sarah Osburn in Sunset, Washington Co., Arkansas. > Would this fit into your line? > > Donna > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pat Ratcliff" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 7:36 PM > Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] VA Mount Vernon > > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Looking for a town, postoffice, cemetery, creek, etc. > Try the mapping services at USGS GNIS. > http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Pat You list Butts in your message, I am looking for a John Henry Butts born in MO in 1878. He married Sarah Osburn in Sunset, Washington Co., Arkansas. Would this fit into your line? Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Ratcliff" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] VA Mount Vernon

I'm afraid I don't have any Eliza Ratliff in my data base. What years and where were they born? Pat Ratcliff Conover, NC Researching RATCLIFF, GRABILL, BUTTON, HICKS, DEWITT, BUTTS, WHEAT, PUTNAM, KENNEDY, COREY, BURCHETT, TUTTLE http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/r/a/t/Patricia-Louise-Ratcliff/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "skempto" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 00:30 Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] VA Mount Vernon > That was my aunt's name: Mary Lucinda Davis. He married Elzia Ratliff. > They had 3 daughters. Perhaps you can help me with my Ratliff line. > skempto > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pat Ratcliff" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 5:36 PM > Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] VA Mount Vernon > > > > Did Mary Lucinda marry a Ratliff, or was that her name? > > > > Pat Ratcliff > > Conover, NC > > Researching RATCLIFF, GRABILL, BUTTON, HICKS, > > DEWITT, BUTTS, WHEAT, PUTNAM, KENNEDY, > > COREY, BURCHETT, TUTTLE > > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/r/a/t/Patricia-Louise-Ratcliff/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "skempto" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 16:09 > > Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] VA Mount Vernon > > > > > > > Her name was Rhoda Orleana(West) Davis. Her parent were Joseph West & > > Rhoda > > > L. Kelly. She ran a cafe in Noel, Missouri. Her children were Bert, > > Lewis, > > > Eligh G., Juanita Hull & Mary Lucinda Ratliff. Yes, they were mostly in > > > Monett and are buried at Jolly Bethel cemetery. I have picture of my > > > grandmother Davis. > > > Shelda > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Wilma Fields" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 8:26 AM > > > Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] VA Mount Vernon > > > > > > > > > > Shelda, > > > > > > > > What was S. E. Davis' wife's name, maiden too, if you know it ? I have > > > some > > > > Davis that married into some of my family lines. They were in Barry, > > > > Lawrence, Co's----actually all over SW Mo..\ > > > > > > > > Wilma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > > > > Whoops! Deleted a message you needed? Search archived messages on this > > > list by entering MOLAWREN-L in the search field at: > > > > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > > > Whoops! Deleted a message you needed? Search archived messages on this > > list by entering MOLAWREN-L in the search field at: > > > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > > Whoops! Deleted a message you needed? Search archived messages on this > list by entering MOLAWREN-L in the search field at: > > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > More Lawrence County information can be found at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~molawre2/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

That was my aunt's name: Mary Lucinda Davis. He married Elzia Ratliff. They had 3 daughters. Perhaps you can help me with my Ratliff line. skempto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Ratcliff" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] VA Mount Vernon > Did Mary Lucinda marry a Ratliff, or was that her name? > > Pat Ratcliff > Conover, NC > Researching RATCLIFF, GRABILL, BUTTON, HICKS, > DEWITT, BUTTS, WHEAT, PUTNAM, KENNEDY, > COREY, BURCHETT, TUTTLE > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/r/a/t/Patricia-Louise-Ratcliff/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "skempto" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 16:09 > Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] VA Mount Vernon > > > > Her name was Rhoda Orleana(West) Davis. Her parent were Joseph West & > Rhoda > > L. Kelly. She ran a cafe in Noel, Missouri. Her children were Bert, > Lewis, > > Eligh G., Juanita Hull & Mary Lucinda Ratliff. Yes, they were mostly in > > Monett and are buried at Jolly Bethel cemetery. I have picture of my > > grandmother Davis. > > Shelda > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Wilma Fields" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 8:26 AM > > Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] VA Mount Vernon > > > > > > > Shelda, > > > > > > What was S. E. Davis' wife's name, maiden too, if you know it ? I have > > some > > > Davis that married into some of my family lines. They were in Barry, > > > Lawrence, Co's----actually all over SW Mo..\ > > > > > > Wilma > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > > > Whoops! Deleted a message you needed? Search archived messages on this > > list by entering MOLAWREN-L in the search field at: > > > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > > Whoops! Deleted a message you needed? Search archived messages on this > list by entering MOLAWREN-L in the search field at: > > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Whoops! Deleted a message you needed? Search archived messages on this list by entering MOLAWREN-L in the search field at: > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Did Mary Lucinda marry a Ratliff, or was that her name? Pat Ratcliff Conover, NC Researching RATCLIFF, GRABILL, BUTTON, HICKS, DEWITT, BUTTS, WHEAT, PUTNAM, KENNEDY, COREY, BURCHETT, TUTTLE http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/r/a/t/Patricia-Louise-Ratcliff/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "skempto" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 16:09 Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] VA Mount Vernon > Her name was Rhoda Orleana(West) Davis. Her parent were Joseph West & Rhoda > L. Kelly. She ran a cafe in Noel, Missouri. Her children were Bert, Lewis, > Eligh G., Juanita Hull & Mary Lucinda Ratliff. Yes, they were mostly in > Monett and are buried at Jolly Bethel cemetery. I have picture of my > grandmother Davis. > Shelda > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wilma Fields" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 8:26 AM > Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN-L] VA Mount Vernon > > > > Shelda, > > > > What was S. E. Davis' wife's name, maiden too, if you know it ? I have > some > > Davis that married into some of my family lines. They were in Barry, > > Lawrence, Co's----actually all over SW Mo..\ > > > > Wilma > > > > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > > Whoops! Deleted a message you needed? Search archived messages on this > list by entering MOLAWREN-L in the search field at: > > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== MOLAWREN Mailing List ==== > Whoops! Deleted a message you needed? Search archived messages on this list by entering MOLAWREN-L in the search field at: > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >