Is that Trail of Tears book seven dollars and 50 cents or Seven hundred fifty dollars? If it's the last, I will just have to take your word for what's in it. Patricia Clemons Beaver, Utah ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

I'll see what I can find out for you.The road has some interesing storys if only it could talk.There is one story where a school was built and the 2 men on each side hated each other and they called a truce while school was in session is one of my favorites.Then lots of storys about bandits and bushwackings. Llinda Eleanor Prieskorn <dalell@earthlink.net> wrote: Hello Linda, This "old Wire Road" how long is that road? Do you know? My Gr Gr Grandfather was killed off that road Sept 10 1860 by bushwhackers some known as town people of Galena Stone county, Clem and other men were marched about ten miles from Galena, to this ole Wire road. They were marched up a hallo and shot. I am going to try this summer to go there. Any help on where this might be. Ellie Warsaw Missouri Bushwhackers; found so far. Alf Bolen Charlie Bird The Chief? William P. Manning (my other Gr Gr grandfather) James P Manning (brother of my GR Grandmother, and son of above Williamm) Gip Bowman S.D Nelson W.M. Anderson Notorious Rebel. -----Original Message----- From: molawren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:molawren-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 7:57 PM To: molawren@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN] Trail of Tears We have always understood the trial came by Marshfield,Northview,Strafford on to Springfield on what we call the "Old Wire Road" if your on I- 44 in the Strafford area,near the truck stop, you can see the road. Linda Dwestcw@aol.com wrote: There were parallel routes on the "Trail of Tears" across southern Missouri and Arkansas, and the northernmost route came across the southeast corner of what is now Lawrence County. I have an original survey of one of the earliest state roads in southwest Missouri. It begins in Little York near Springfield and crosses the southeast corner of Lawrence County to somewhere in extreme southwest Missouri. I believe that this is the route the U.S. Army took the eastern deportees across Lawrence County. Although I have had this survey (plus a copy of the original survey for the Springfield-Carthage Road that ran through Phelps) for some time, I have not researched it sufficiently to pinpoint the exact trace on a modern map. Dale West Longview, TX ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.15/728 - Release Date: 3/20/2007 8:07 AM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business.

My WILSON ancestors migrated from McMinn County, TN to Stone / Barry County in MO in 1853. Several years ago I found a map that showed the route of the Trail of Tears from North Carolina to Oklahoma. It was not a direct route, but meandered quite a bit. I once read that the best place to cross the Mississippi River was at Cape Guiarido, MO. It passed through McMinn County and Barry County. I often wonder if my ancestors and the group with which they migrated followed the same trail. ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

We have always understood the trial came by Marshfield,Northview,Strafford on to Springfield on what we call the "Old Wire Road" if your on I- 44 in the Strafford area,near the truck stop, you can see the road. Linda Dwestcw@aol.com wrote: There were parallel routes on the "Trail of Tears" across southern Missouri and Arkansas, and the northernmost route came across the southeast corner of what is now Lawrence County. I have an original survey of one of the earliest state roads in southwest Missouri. It begins in Little York near Springfield and crosses the southeast corner of Lawrence County to somewhere in extreme southwest Missouri. I believe that this is the route the U.S. Army took the eastern deportees across Lawrence County. Although I have had this survey (plus a copy of the original survey for the Springfield-Carthage Road that ran through Phelps) for some time, I have not researched it sufficiently to pinpoint the exact trace on a modern map. Dale West Longview, TX ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.

There were parallel routes on the "Trail of Tears" across southern Missouri and Arkansas, and the northernmost route came across the southeast corner of what is now Lawrence County. I have an original survey of one of the earliest state roads in southwest Missouri. It begins in Little York near Springfield and crosses the southeast corner of Lawrence County to somewhere in extreme southwest Missouri. I believe that this is the route the U.S. Army took the eastern deportees across Lawrence County. Although I have had this survey (plus a copy of the original survey for the Springfield-Carthage Road that ran through Phelps) for some time, I have not researched it sufficiently to pinpoint the exact trace on a modern map. Dale West Longview, TX ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

In a message dated 3/20/2007 10:47:00 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, h431@uchicago.edu writes: I've seen the same sorts of general maps you've mentioned, but nothing so specific. Would there be historians in the Cherokee, Choctaw, etc. nations who might know? I poked at the library catalogue here and found this book: Author: United States. National Park Service Title: Comprehensive management and use plan, map supplement : Trail of Tears National Historic Trail. Imprint: Denver, CO : U.S. Dept. of the Interior, National Park Service, 1992. It doesn't seem available from amazon.com, but here's a related one: http://www.amazon.com/Trail-Tears-National-Historic/dp/1877856967/ref=sr_1_1/1 02-9622646-1629721?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1174412536&sr=1-1 Here's the website for the National Historic Trail: http://www.nps.gov/trte/ Here's another book: Author: Gilbert, Joan. Title: The Trail of Tears across Missouri / Joan Gilbert. Imprint: Columbia : University of Missouri Press, 1996. On amazon.com at: http://www.amazon.com/Trail-Across-Missouri-Heritage-Readers/dp/0826210635/ref =sr_1_1/102-9622646-1629721?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1174412485&sr=1-1 - Heather http://surgerysupport.uchicago.edu/hblair/ On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, Deb Rowe wrote: > Hello, > > I have a question that is more of historic nature than relating to a specific surname. I hope it is okay to post to the List to ask and/or generate dialogue. If it is not appropriate to ask a question for historic/research purposes, I apologize in advance. > > A few months ago, I read in the Joplin Globe about a lady near Purdy, MO who was developing part of her property as an officially registered part of the Trail of Tears. I keep wondering, if we know that specific 'section' is part of the Trail, then do we also know exactly where in Lawrence County (and or Newton or Barry) where her part of the trail "connects." (Am I making any sense?) > > I have looked at a number of maps of the historic trail but as far as being able to actually find one that marks in detail the exact 'spots' where the trail ran, I cannot find that. Meaning, if there is a trail on her property, why then are the 'connecting' ends not also documented and registered? Why just a section? Or are they? > > I am NOT trying to find out so that I can go hiking and invade anyone's property! :-) I am actually trying to be able to look at a map along with any additional info anywhere that shows me where the trail then goes from the spot' in Purdy...so that I can follow it on a map and see how close it might have come to property which belonged to my ancestors. (I hope this makes sense.) > > Thanks for any help... > Deb (SHIPMAN) ROWE > > > > Yigaquu osaniyu adanvto adadoligi nigohilvi nasquv utloyasdi nihi > ~Cherokee~ > > (May the Great Spirit's Blessing always be with you) > > > --------------------------------- > Be a PS3 game guru. > Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _http://www.rosecity.net/tears/trail/map.html_ (http://www.rosecity.net/tears/trail/map.html) there is a very good map of all 4 trails on this website, but not in enough detail to show exact locations. Patricia ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Google has a number of links to Trail of Tears. One of them has a map sowing one of the trails going through Springfield and then on down. rosecity.net/tears/trail/tearsnht.html - 27k Barb Marsh *************************** On Mar 20, 2007, at 12:43 PM, WBLanders@aol.com wrote: > The Barry County Genealogical Society published a small book, “The > Trail of > Tears in Barry County, Missouri 1837-1838-1839” > I won’t quote from the book, except page 13: > “Late in 1837, a party numbering 356, with B.B. Cannon as > conductor, left > Tennessee and set out on what is now called the Northern Route, > which passed > through Missouri. During the forced removal in 1838, twelve of the > thirteen > detachments of Cherokee passed through Missouri, all but one > entering the state in > Cape Girardeau County.” > [A portion of the Diary of B.B. Cannon is contained in the book] > A map, at the center fold, shows various routes. The northern route > went > through Illinois and crossed the Mississippi at Cap Girardeau, then > slightly north > and back down to Springfield, then south, catching the southeast > corner of > Lawrence county, entering Barry County through McDowell (formerly > McDonald-second county seat of Barry County) where Jonas Locke’s > Spring is located, then > along what would become the Old Wire Road to Cassville to Arkansas, > all the way > to Fayetteville, then west to Tahlequah, Indian Territory. > The map shows Hildebrand following a route near the Northern Route > while Benge > ’s route veers south through Arkansas much sooner. Bell’s Route > went through > Memphis and through Arkansas. There is also a Water Route down the > Mississippi to the Arkansas and to the Northwest. > Point is, the Trail of Tears followed several routes based on the > whim of > their leader. > It has been written that Barsheba Pannell, the widow of Victor > Pannell was > Cherokee. They settled early at the head of Spring River near > Verona and she > later married my ancestor. It is said that in later years Barsheba > stated that > helping feed the Indians as the passed through was difficult. > Anyway, Verona would be near where the route turned south into > Barry County. > Bill Landers > The little book is 48 pages and well worth the price of $750 from > Barry Co. G > & H Society, P O Box 291,Cassville, MO 65625 > Or you can pick one up at Field’s Photo Archives on highway 248, > Cassville. > > > > ************************************** AOL now offers free email to > everyone. > Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOLAWREN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

While I'm sure the society would appreciate receiving $750 the price is $7.50 postpaid. ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Well, to be exact, the journal begins Oct 13, 1837 and states a detachment of 365 Cherokee Indians (not 356 as previously written). This was two months time on the road and they were near Springfield, MO. Other entries speak of cold, sickness and burials. Dec. 14, 1837 they halted at James fork of White River Dec 28, 1837 speaks of a child born to Jesse Half Breeds wife last night. Dec 30, 1837: End of journey. No mention of number that made it. Bill ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

The Barry County Genealogical Society published a small book, “The Trail of Tears in Barry County, Missouri 1837-1838-1839” I won’t quote from the book, except page 13: “Late in 1837, a party numbering 356, with B.B. Cannon as conductor, left Tennessee and set out on what is now called the Northern Route, which passed through Missouri. During the forced removal in 1838, twelve of the thirteen detachments of Cherokee passed through Missouri, all but one entering the state in Cape Girardeau County.” [A portion of the Diary of B.B. Cannon is contained in the book] A map, at the center fold, shows various routes. The northern route went through Illinois and crossed the Mississippi at Cap Girardeau, then slightly north and back down to Springfield, then south, catching the southeast corner of Lawrence county, entering Barry County through McDowell (formerly McDonald-second county seat of Barry County) where Jonas Locke’s Spring is located, then along what would become the Old Wire Road to Cassville to Arkansas, all the way to Fayetteville, then west to Tahlequah, Indian Territory. The map shows Hildebrand following a route near the Northern Route while Benge ’s route veers south through Arkansas much sooner. Bell’s Route went through Memphis and through Arkansas. There is also a Water Route down the Mississippi to the Arkansas and to the Northwest. Point is, the Trail of Tears followed several routes based on the whim of their leader. It has been written that Barsheba Pannell, the widow of Victor Pannell was Cherokee. They settled early at the head of Spring River near Verona and she later married my ancestor. It is said that in later years Barsheba stated that helping feed the Indians as the passed through was difficult. Anyway, Verona would be near where the route turned south into Barry County. Bill Landers The little book is 48 pages and well worth the price of $750 from Barry Co. G & H Society, P O Box 291,Cassville, MO 65625 Or you can pick one up at Field’s Photo Archives on highway 248, Cassville. ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

I asked as I am looking for information on my ggrandmother Louisa Curry ,however she was married before she married grand pa Curry. I have a possible through Louisa that swears her first husband was a SHIPMAN possibly Samson was first name. well I am n ot able to find any marriage for her and ShIPMAn in either Lawrence or newton counties. I also looked in Arkansas. I really do not think her name was SHIpMAN as her marriage record to Curry stated her name to be "Mrrs. Louisa ShIPLEY" however my cousin says this is wrong because she could not read or write. Surely she knew what her name was. The marriage to SHIPLEYor SHIPman would have been prior to 1880 She had several children before 1881 when she married in Dec. to Curry. thanks cora Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deb Rowe" <kcwordweaver@yahoo.com> To: <molawren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [MOLAWREN] Trail of Tears > Hi! > > My SHIPMANs are through my grandfather, John Wesley SHIPMAN, (1870-1949) > and his father, Dan'l SHIPMAN, bn. 1832 TN. > > My ancestors who lived near the Trail of Tears would not however be > specifically through the SHIPMAN family, other than through my > grandmother, Laura (SHIPMAN) STRINGER and her mom, Sarah HALEY. I know > where Laura's mom's sister (Rhoda Francis HALEY) lived in Newton County, > and am trying to determine how close the Trail of Tears came to her > property. In other words, I am trying to make some geographic/topographic > connections on a map to the Trail of Tears newly registered property in > Lawrence County (mentioned in my previous post). > > cora miller <coram@cableone.net> wrote: > who are your shipmans ? > cora miller > blind i Oklahoma > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Deb Rowe" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 11:30 AM > Subject: [MOLAWREN] Trail of Tears > > >> Hello, >> >> I have a question that is more of historic nature than relating to a >> specific surname. I hope it is okay to post to the List to ask and/or >> generate dialogue. If it is not appropriate to ask a question for >> historic/research purposes, I apologize in advance. >> >> A few months ago, I read in the Joplin Globe about a lady near Purdy, MO >> who was developing part of her property as an officially registered part >> of the Trail of Tears. I keep wondering, if we know that specific >> 'section' is part of the Trail, then do we also know exactly where in >> Lawrence County (and or Newton or Barry) where her part of the trail >> "connects." (Am I making any sense?) >> >> I have looked at a number of maps of the historic trail but as far as >> being able to actually find one that marks in detail the exact 'spots' >> where the trail ran, I cannot find that. Meaning, if there is a trail on >> her property, why then are the 'connecting' ends not also documented and >> registered? Why just a section? Or are they? >> >> I am NOT trying to find out so that I can go hiking and invade anyone's >> property! :-) I am actually trying to be able to look at a map along with >> any additional info anywhere that shows me where the trail then goes from >> the spot' in Purdy...so that I can follow it on a map and see how close >> it >> might have come to property which belonged to my ancestors. (I hope this >> makes sense.) >> >> Thanks for any help... >> Deb (SHIPMAN) ROWE >> >> >> >> Yigaquu osaniyu adanvto adadoligi nigohilvi nasquv utloyasdi nihi >> ~Cherokee~ >> >> (May the Great Spirit's Blessing always be with >> you) >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Be a PS3 game guru. >> Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! >> Games. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.15/728 - Release Date: >> 3/20/2007 >> 8:07 AM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > Yigaquu osaniyu adanvto adadoligi nigohilvi nasquv utloyasdi nihi > ~Cherokee~ > > (May the Great Spirit's Blessing always be with > you) > > > --------------------------------- > TV dinner still cooling? > Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.15/728 - Release Date: 3/20/2007 > 8:07 AM > >

Has no one in the last decade led a trip following The Trail of Tears? It seems to me that there was a reenactment sometime to promote the anniversary of that happening. We just had the trek across America on the National Trail that came across Ohio going east. They stopped in various places and had ceremonies. I know in each state people were recruited to help with these ceremonies. I just asked my husband and he remembers something in the papers about it. Linda in Ohio ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

In a message dated 3/20/2007 10:10:06 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, LndsayRose@aol.com writes: Marvelous question!! I hope there is some one out there that knows exactly where the Trail Of Tears is. It will be great if this develops into something really noteworthy. I had no idea this trail was any where near Lawrence County. My families in Lawrence County are GILBERT, WORMINGTON,and FERGUSON . Patricia Lindsay Clemons Beaver, Utah ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message who are your Ferguson family? Patricia ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Thank you to all who are sharing information. It speeds up the process of trying to learn as much as possible as 'quickly' as possible. Many of you have an awesome knowledge of southwest MO. So much of what I have read is more generalized as to the story of Indian Removals. It is much more significant to be able to actually pinpoint an area and say 'this is where my family lived.' I know where my great great aunt's property is located...but I think it is more the edge of Newton County. I am looking for water that would come close to where she settled...Thinking that it is possible that the Trail of Tears came close by...and that some segment hooks up with a route that is already established and registered. My ancestor remained in the area and hunted for many years. It is said that she and her husband hunted and helped the government in so doing, by helping lessen the population of...well....believe it or not...oral family history has always said, "panthers." I am convinced there is a connection between where she lived and where at least some portion of the Trail of Tears also ran...Right now I am just gathering as much info as possible to see what I can discover. I am truly so thankful for everything everyone shares regarding this subject. It helps little snippets of oral history make more sense. The Lawrence County List has always proven to be awesome. This kind of discussion and help makes the entire research process extremely significant. Deb Lsabin1313@aol.com wrote: Has no one in the last decade led a trip following The Trail of Tears? It seems to me that there was a reenactment sometime to promote the anniversary of that happening. We just had the trek across America on the National Trail that came across Ohio going east. They stopped in various places and had ceremonies. I know in each state people were recruited to help with these ceremonies. I just asked my husband and he remembers something in the papers about it. Linda in Ohio ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Yigaquu osaniyu adanvto adadoligi nigohilvi nasquv utloyasdi nihi ~Cherokee~ (May the Great Spirit's Blessing always be with you) --------------------------------- Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games.

Ted Roller (from Barry Co) has done a lot of research on the Trail of Tears in SW MO. He visited my Uncle's farm in Laclede Co following part of the trail there. --------------------------------- Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta.

Marvelous question!! I hope there is some one out there that knows exactly where the Trail Of Tears is. It will be great if this develops into something really noteworthy. I had no idea this trail was any where near Lawrence County. My families in Lawrence County are GILBERT, WORMINGTON,and FERGUSON . Patricia Lindsay Clemons Beaver, Utah ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

I've seen the same sorts of general maps you've mentioned, but nothing so specific. Would there be historians in the Cherokee, Choctaw, etc. nations who might know? I poked at the library catalogue here and found this book: Author: United States. National Park Service Title: Comprehensive management and use plan, map supplement : Trail of Tears National Historic Trail. Imprint: Denver, CO : U.S. Dept. of the Interior, National Park Service, 1992. It doesn't seem available from amazon.com, but here's a related one: http://www.amazon.com/Trail-Tears-National-Historic/dp/1877856967/ref=sr_1_1/102-9622646-1629721?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1174412536&sr=1-1 Here's the website for the National Historic Trail: http://www.nps.gov/trte/ Here's another book: Author: Gilbert, Joan. Title: The Trail of Tears across Missouri / Joan Gilbert. Imprint: Columbia : University of Missouri Press, 1996. On amazon.com at: http://www.amazon.com/Trail-Across-Missouri-Heritage-Readers/dp/0826210635/ref=sr_1_1/102-9622646-1629721?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1174412485&sr=1-1 - Heather http://surgerysupport.uchicago.edu/hblair/ On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, Deb Rowe wrote: > Hello, > > I have a question that is more of historic nature than relating to a specific surname. I hope it is okay to post to the List to ask and/or generate dialogue. If it is not appropriate to ask a question for historic/research purposes, I apologize in advance. > > A few months ago, I read in the Joplin Globe about a lady near Purdy, MO who was developing part of her property as an officially registered part of the Trail of Tears. I keep wondering, if we know that specific 'section' is part of the Trail, then do we also know exactly where in Lawrence County (and or Newton or Barry) where her part of the trail "connects." (Am I making any sense?) > > I have looked at a number of maps of the historic trail but as far as being able to actually find one that marks in detail the exact 'spots' where the trail ran, I cannot find that. Meaning, if there is a trail on her property, why then are the 'connecting' ends not also documented and registered? Why just a section? Or are they? > > I am NOT trying to find out so that I can go hiking and invade anyone's property! :-) I am actually trying to be able to look at a map along with any additional info anywhere that shows me where the trail then goes from the spot' in Purdy...so that I can follow it on a map and see how close it might have come to property which belonged to my ancestors. (I hope this makes sense.) > > Thanks for any help... > Deb (SHIPMAN) ROWE > > > > Yigaquu osaniyu adanvto adadoligi nigohilvi nasquv utloyasdi nihi > ~Cherokee~ > > (May the Great Spirit's Blessing always be with you) > > > --------------------------------- > Be a PS3 game guru. > Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

who are your shipmans ? cora miller blind i Oklahoma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deb Rowe" <kcwordweaver@yahoo.com> To: <MOLAWREN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 11:30 AM Subject: [MOLAWREN] Trail of Tears > Hello, > > I have a question that is more of historic nature than relating to a > specific surname. I hope it is okay to post to the List to ask and/or > generate dialogue. If it is not appropriate to ask a question for > historic/research purposes, I apologize in advance. > > A few months ago, I read in the Joplin Globe about a lady near Purdy, MO > who was developing part of her property as an officially registered part > of the Trail of Tears. I keep wondering, if we know that specific > 'section' is part of the Trail, then do we also know exactly where in > Lawrence County (and or Newton or Barry) where her part of the trail > "connects." (Am I making any sense?) > > I have looked at a number of maps of the historic trail but as far as > being able to actually find one that marks in detail the exact 'spots' > where the trail ran, I cannot find that. Meaning, if there is a trail on > her property, why then are the 'connecting' ends not also documented and > registered? Why just a section? Or are they? > > I am NOT trying to find out so that I can go hiking and invade anyone's > property! :-) I am actually trying to be able to look at a map along with > any additional info anywhere that shows me where the trail then goes from > the spot' in Purdy...so that I can follow it on a map and see how close it > might have come to property which belonged to my ancestors. (I hope this > makes sense.) > > Thanks for any help... > Deb (SHIPMAN) ROWE > > > > Yigaquu osaniyu adanvto adadoligi nigohilvi nasquv utloyasdi nihi > ~Cherokee~ > > (May the Great Spirit's Blessing always be with > you) > > > --------------------------------- > Be a PS3 game guru. > Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! > Games. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.15/728 - Release Date: 3/20/2007 > 8:07 AM > >

Hi! My SHIPMANs are through my grandfather, John Wesley SHIPMAN, (1870-1949) and his father, Dan'l SHIPMAN, bn. 1832 TN. My ancestors who lived near the Trail of Tears would not however be specifically through the SHIPMAN family, other than through my grandmother, Laura (SHIPMAN) STRINGER and her mom, Sarah HALEY. I know where Laura's mom's sister (Rhoda Francis HALEY) lived in Newton County, and am trying to determine how close the Trail of Tears came to her property. In other words, I am trying to make some geographic/topographic connections on a map to the Trail of Tears newly registered property in Lawrence County (mentioned in my previous post). cora miller <coram@cableone.net> wrote: who are your shipmans ? cora miller blind i Oklahoma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deb Rowe" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 11:30 AM Subject: [MOLAWREN] Trail of Tears > Hello, > > I have a question that is more of historic nature than relating to a > specific surname. I hope it is okay to post to the List to ask and/or > generate dialogue. If it is not appropriate to ask a question for > historic/research purposes, I apologize in advance. > > A few months ago, I read in the Joplin Globe about a lady near Purdy, MO > who was developing part of her property as an officially registered part > of the Trail of Tears. I keep wondering, if we know that specific > 'section' is part of the Trail, then do we also know exactly where in > Lawrence County (and or Newton or Barry) where her part of the trail > "connects." (Am I making any sense?) > > I have looked at a number of maps of the historic trail but as far as > being able to actually find one that marks in detail the exact 'spots' > where the trail ran, I cannot find that. Meaning, if there is a trail on > her property, why then are the 'connecting' ends not also documented and > registered? Why just a section? Or are they? > > I am NOT trying to find out so that I can go hiking and invade anyone's > property! :-) I am actually trying to be able to look at a map along with > any additional info anywhere that shows me where the trail then goes from > the spot' in Purdy...so that I can follow it on a map and see how close it > might have come to property which belonged to my ancestors. (I hope this > makes sense.) > > Thanks for any help... > Deb (SHIPMAN) ROWE > > > > Yigaquu osaniyu adanvto adadoligi nigohilvi nasquv utloyasdi nihi > ~Cherokee~ > > (May the Great Spirit's Blessing always be with > you) > > > --------------------------------- > Be a PS3 game guru. > Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! > Games. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.15/728 - Release Date: 3/20/2007 > 8:07 AM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Yigaquu osaniyu adanvto adadoligi nigohilvi nasquv utloyasdi nihi ~Cherokee~ (May the Great Spirit's Blessing always be with you) --------------------------------- TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV.

Hello, I have a question that is more of historic nature than relating to a specific surname. I hope it is okay to post to the List to ask and/or generate dialogue. If it is not appropriate to ask a question for historic/research purposes, I apologize in advance. A few months ago, I read in the Joplin Globe about a lady near Purdy, MO who was developing part of her property as an officially registered part of the Trail of Tears. I keep wondering, if we know that specific 'section' is part of the Trail, then do we also know exactly where in Lawrence County (and or Newton or Barry) where her part of the trail "connects." (Am I making any sense?) I have looked at a number of maps of the historic trail but as far as being able to actually find one that marks in detail the exact 'spots' where the trail ran, I cannot find that. Meaning, if there is a trail on her property, why then are the 'connecting' ends not also documented and registered? Why just a section? Or are they? I am NOT trying to find out so that I can go hiking and invade anyone's property! :-) I am actually trying to be able to look at a map along with any additional info anywhere that shows me where the trail then goes from the spot' in Purdy...so that I can follow it on a map and see how close it might have come to property which belonged to my ancestors. (I hope this makes sense.) Thanks for any help... Deb (SHIPMAN) ROWE Yigaquu osaniyu adanvto adadoligi nigohilvi nasquv utloyasdi nihi ~Cherokee~ (May the Great Spirit's Blessing always be with you) --------------------------------- Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games.