Joe, Keep up the good work! It's appreciated. No one is perfect so it's always good to be able to view more than one list on the same cemetery. Just because a cemetery was already transcribed years ago certainly doesn't been that it was done perfectly. I've found many times what is not on one list may be included on another list prepared by someone else. In fact, I have three different lists prepared by three different people of a cemetery in St. Francois County. The person who I was looking for was included on none of these lists, yet when I personally visited the cemetery, there was her stone standing tall and proud right in the middle of the cemetery! I don't know how three different people missed her. Another thing I've found is that many of these stones will have names recorded on both the front and back, and sometimes on all four sides. Some of these names may be overlooked by by one person, but picked up by another. Also, I've even dug stones out of the ground that were not included on a previous list, but thanks to my "recovery efforts" will be included on a future list. Due to weathering over the years, some of the numbers and letters are easily misread too. Therefore, more than one list is always a good source of comparison. Recording a cemetery that has already been recorded is not a waste of time, in my opinion! Thanks again! Bettye ----- Original Message ----- From: "Desoto Joe" <joey@jcn1.com> To: <MOJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [MOJEFFER] Victoria Cemetery > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Lsnehring@aol.com> > To: <MOJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 8:16 AM > Subject: Re: [MOJEFFER] Victoria Cemetery > > > > Hey Joe - > > You are doing a great service here with these small cemeteries - however - > > you may want to check with the St. Louis Genalgocial Society and the Jeffe > Co > > Society before pursuing more. Many of these have already been > transcribed - > > some of them years ago. The Victoria Cemetery was done about 15-20 years > ago > > by volunteers from the STLGS. My great grandparents are there, (John and > > Germima KYLE)and their stone, legible at that time, is now illegible, and > > therefore was not on your list. So they have been "missed" as many others > may > > have been too in 2001. > > > > Thanks! > > Linda > > > > I have posted addresses on here before, where these older lists can be > obtained. I have been cruising the cemeteries in search of the lost & > forgotten men who served in the Civil War. I have found that in these older > lists, some of the information on these graves are incorrect, or just plain > missed. They are great for those graves that are no longer around, if > correct, but they are not posted anywhere on the web, where people not > living here in Jefferson County, can easily access them. > > I have been asked to transcribe these cemeteries, since I will be there > anyway, so I have been backtracking to those that I've already been to. I > knew that your Kyle relative was there, by corresponding with Charlene > Hamman Konersmann, but not seeing the info on the stone, it was not posted > on my list. The reason I knew he was there, is because I'm looking for Henry > Kyle's burial location. He was in the Civil War & I would like to find his > missing grave. Any idea where he might be? > > I guess it would be easier to get these older lists & post them, in fact, I > have files given to me by others, who recorded many cemeteries in the 50's. > I just hate putting info out there, without knowing for sure that they > exist, but that's just me. Victoria may seem small, but I put a few hours > into walking around & recording that one, plus I sometimes meet very > interesting & friendly people while in the cemetery. > > I have the De Soto city cemetery about half done, now that one is huge! > Perhaps I'll post what I have now & post the rest when I finish. > > Desoto Joe/The Record Man > > > ==== MOJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Please remember that RESPECT and COURTESY is a must. If you have > a disagreement with another subscriber, either email them privately > or contact the list manager at pfrazer@flash.net. > DO NOT post grievances to the list! Let's keep it friendly! >

Ditto! Remember that about census records too. I think many people are missed there because one film is from the National record and others may be from a state or local record...and since there was only one original record made and then a re-written copy was sent to the sate and even local government, there can be 3 different records of the same census taking. Don't ask me which years this applies to, I don't have time to look that up, but I know it is true and I just offer it as a warning to recheck ALL available sources when you can't find your people. So what Joe is doing is very important, useful and very kind! Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. Warner" <bkwofc@i1.net> To: <MOJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 8:30 AM Subject: [MOJEFFER] Thanks Joe! > Joe, > > Keep up the good work! It's appreciated. No one is perfect so it's always > good to be able to view more than one list on the same cemetery. Just > because a cemetery was already transcribed years ago certainly doesn't been > that it was done perfectly. I've found many times what is not on one list > may be included on another list prepared by someone else. In fact, I have > three different lists prepared by three different people of a cemetery in > St. Francois County. The person who I was looking for was included on none > of these lists, yet when I personally visited the cemetery, there was her > stone standing tall and proud right in the middle of the cemetery! I don't > know how three different people missed her. Another thing I've found is > that many of these stones will have names recorded on both the front and > back, and sometimes on all four sides. Some of these names may be > overlooked by by one person, but picked up by another. Also, I've even dug > stones out of the ground that were not included on a previous list, but > thanks to my "recovery efforts" will be included on a future list. Due to > weathering over the years, some of the numbers and letters are easily > misread too. Therefore, more than one list is always a good source of > comparison. Recording a cemetery that has already been recorded is not a > waste of time, in my opinion! > > Thanks again! > > Bettye > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Desoto Joe" <joey@jcn1.com> > To: <MOJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 10:22 PM > Subject: Re: [MOJEFFER] Victoria Cemetery > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Lsnehring@aol.com> > > To: <MOJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 8:16 AM > > Subject: Re: [MOJEFFER] Victoria Cemetery > > > > > > > Hey Joe - > > > You are doing a great service here with these small cemeteries - > however - > > > you may want to check with the St. Louis Genalgocial Society and the > Jeffe > > Co > > > Society before pursuing more. Many of these have already been > > transcribed - > > > some of them years ago. The Victoria Cemetery was done about 15-20 years > > ago > > > by volunteers from the STLGS. My great grandparents are there, (John and > > > Germima KYLE)and their stone, legible at that time, is now illegible, > and > > > therefore was not on your list. So they have been "missed" as many > others > > may > > > have been too in 2001. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > Linda > > > > > > > I have posted addresses on here before, where these older lists can be > > obtained. I have been cruising the cemeteries in search of the lost & > > forgotten men who served in the Civil War. I have found that in these > older > > lists, some of the information on these graves are incorrect, or just > plain > > missed. They are great for those graves that are no longer around, if > > correct, but they are not posted anywhere on the web, where people not > > living here in Jefferson County, can easily access them. > > > > I have been asked to transcribe these cemeteries, since I will be there > > anyway, so I have been backtracking to those that I've already been to. I > > knew that your Kyle relative was there, by corresponding with Charlene > > Hamman Konersmann, but not seeing the info on the stone, it was not posted > > on my list. The reason I knew he was there, is because I'm looking for > Henry > > Kyle's burial location. He was in the Civil War & I would like to find his > > missing grave. Any idea where he might be? > > > > I guess it would be easier to get these older lists & post them, in fact, > I > > have files given to me by others, who recorded many cemeteries in the > 50's. > > I just hate putting info out there, without knowing for sure that they > > exist, but that's just me. Victoria may seem small, but I put a few hours > > into walking around & recording that one, plus I sometimes meet very > > interesting & friendly people while in the cemetery. > > > > I have the De Soto city cemetery about half done, now that one is huge! > > Perhaps I'll post what I have now & post the rest when I finish. > > > > Desoto Joe/The Record Man > > > > > > ==== MOJEFFER Mailing List ==== > > Please remember that RESPECT and COURTESY is a must. If you have > > a disagreement with another subscriber, either email them privately > > or contact the list manager at pfrazer@flash.net. > > DO NOT post grievances to the list! Let's keep it friendly! > > > > > ==== MOJEFFER Mailing List ==== > The townships of Jefferson County in the late 1880s: Big River, > Central, Joachim, Meramec, Plattin, Rock, and Valle. The > county seat, Hillsboro, is located in Central Township. >

I really appreciate Joe for listing all the little cemeteries in Jeff. Co. I keep hoping he will run across the grave of my g grandfather David Chance who died in Jeff. Co. in 1904 - David was a CW vet who served in the NC 13th and then moved to Mo. in 1870. Also there are 2 graves somewhere in Jeff Co. for 2 of my uncles, Harry Wayne and Claude Manion who died as children between 1895 and 1900. I am afraid all three graves are unmarked, but still I really appreciate the listings.