John, As usual, I feel as though I am just grasping at straws on a wagon which you've already loaded. I have seen the John and Elisha Piatt/Pyeatt, but, have never been able to tie them to any family. What is your source for Elisha b: 1824 being the son of Jacob and Olivia? It does seem to fit the census enumeration (I have as an unidentified male) for the 1830 and 1840 census for Jacob. I know there are other sons/daughters that I haven't discovered yet. I only know about William Dudley, Andrew McClure and James Benton. John was not given as an heir to John who died c1827, however, I had considered that he might be one of the people in Jacob and Olivia's household in 1840. However, in 1830, Jacob had only one male child under five. So, if he had sons James Benton age 3 and John age 1 - why were they not both enumerated? Do you have any possible names of Jacob and Olivia's daughters? I note in Franklin County, MO, Elisha Pyatt married Mary Meyer 05-17-1881 and Mary F Pyeatt married Nathaniel G Caldwell 12-09-1875. Is this the same Elisha and a relative? And in Gasconade County, MO, Belinda B Pyatt married Samuel H Clubb 12-07-1837 and Rebecca J Pyatt married Hosea H Bridges 12-07-1837. Since these are so early in Missouri, I've always wondered if they were connected to John. However, there is no mention in his estate so they weren't his heirs. Do you know if they were his grandchildren? Could they belong to Jacob and Olivia? Also, St. Louis Co, MO, Sarah Pyeatt married Wilson Sledo 11-14-1836 and you seem to know where she fits in and Agnes Pyatt (daughter of John Pyatt) and Fredrick Wengler 1842 (Per Scharf's "History of St. Louis City & County", Vol. 2, 1883). The only way that I can see her connection to our John would be if she was the daughter of John Piatt who was a son of John Piatt and that her father died before 1827 when John Sr. estate was administered. Anyway, as usual, I have more questions than answers. If you can tell me how these people might possibly be related, I will start looking for wills, etc. to prove same. Thanks again! Marianne On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 15:32:04 -0700, John Keilch wrote: > MARIANNE -- > > You beat me to the punch! Yesterday I composed a message suggesting > that Olivia (or Olive) PYEATT's original surname was INKS and that > she was related to William INKS, but I waited overnight to confirm > my memory on a few points. As soon as I opened my e-mail today, I > found that you had already recognized the INKS possibility. > > Congratulations! You are really moving fast in discovering documents > that help to resolve many of the Missouri PYEATT mysteries. > > Below is my write-up about associations of the INKS and PYEATT > families. > > -- JOHN > > (1) Perhaps the actual name of Olivia (JUKE?) PYEATT was Olivia INKS. > (See the original messages about Olivia at the end of this message). > > In 19th century manuscript, I's and J's were often indistinguishable, > and the name could have appeared as the following: > J<I + U<N + K + E<S, or JUKE rather than INKS. > > Following are some additional reasons to explore the possibility of > a PYEATT--INKS connection. > > (2) The INKS family of Kentucky and Missouri was connected to the > JUMP, LINK, McCLURE, VOTAW, and ZUMWALT families, all of whom > lived in the vicinity of the Missouri PYEATT families in the ealy 1800s. > > (3) William INKS (bc1776, the son of William INKS and Catherine LINK) > married Sarah PIKE in Kentucky and moved to Missouri by 1809 when his > name appeared on a petition. William INKS purchased land from Francis > BIDDICK on the Meramec River in 1816. William INKS appears on the > 1830 and 1840 censuses of St. Louis County. The following note about > the Kentucky marriage of this William INKS shows that his name was > recorded, or at least read, as JENKS and JUKES: > > "William Inks married Sally Pike in 1805 in Adair County Kentucky. > It is recorded as William Jenks and also as William Jukes. Does > anybody have ANY information about these 2 people. I am descended > from William and Sally and I would like to find parents for her. > Thanks for any help. Mandy INKS Kalenske" > -- Source: Pike Family Genealogy Forum: > Sally Pike/William JUKES-JENKS-INKS > http://genforum.genealogy.com/pike/messages/751.html > > (The author of that note, Mandy INKS Kalenske, is now located at > kalinks@sutv.com.) > > (4) On the 1840 census of Bonhomme township, St. Louis County, on > page 261, the household of William INKS is located between Jacob PYATT > on one side and John PYATT on the other. I had speculated that John > PYATT (bc1817, a son of Jacob, I think, or possibly of the older John) > may have married a daughter of William INKS (named "Julia"), but I had > not thought of the Olivia/INKS possibility. On the 1830 census of > Bonhomme township, St. Louis County, William INKS appears on page 316 > and Frederick PIATT and Jacob PIATT appear not far away on page 317. > > (5) Olivia (JUKE? or INKS?) PYEATT (born about 1798) was born too early > to be a daughter of Sarah PIKE (if the marriage date of 1805 for Sarah > and William is accurate), but Olivia might have been the daughter of > William INKS by an earlier marriage; William was old enough, as he was > born about 1776. (Or Olivia might have been a niece of William. > Joseph INKS, born about 1778, who was a younger brother of William, > married Mary EWING in Kentucky in 1804; they later moved to Missouri > and raised a family in Polk County.) > > (6) A son of William INKS was Elisha INKS (bc1809 KY), who married > Emily Jane WILSON. Elisha and Emily appear on the 1850 census of > Merramec township, St. Louis County, page 383 (his name looks like > "Lardge Ink." Elisha's immediate neighbors were Wm. C. INK[S] (his > brother), John PIET, and Elisha PIET in one direction, and in the > other direction, one house away, Wilson SLED[D] and Sarah [PYEATT] > SLEDD. Jacob and Olivia PYEATT named one son Elisha PYEATT > (b1824 MO); the name "Elisha" had not been used before by the > Missouri PYEATT family. > > (7) William C. INKS, a son of William INKS, married Anna Eliza KING. > William C., a storekeeper, and Anna appear between Elisha INK[S] on > one side and John PIET and Elisha PIET on the other on the 1850 census > of Merramec township, St. Louis County, page 384. On the 1860 census > for Meramec township, William C. and "Nancy" appear on page 996. This > William was the same as Mayor William C. INKS of Franklin County, MO, > who commanded the Pacific Battalion Home Guards in 1861; among his > officers were Robert C. ALLEN (the husband of Emily Jane PYEATT) and > Frederick WENGLER (the husband of Agnes PYEATT, who was Emily Jane's > mother). In 1852 William C. INKS established the town of Franklin > (later Pacific City) in Franklin County, MO, and served as its first > 1postmaster. In 1858 he established Mineral Point on the St. Louis, > Iron Mountain, & Southern Railway. One of the daughters of William > C. INKS was Sarah Olivia (!) INKS, who was born in 1849. > -- Source: 1850, 1860 censuses, > PACIFIC BATTALION, HOME GUARD & USRC (3months) > http://www.usmo.com/~momollus/FranCoCW/InksReg.htm > A Directory of Towns, Villages, and Hamlets of Missouri > http://198.209.8.166/sheproom/moser/franklinpl.html > Mineral Point > http://www.carrollscorner.net/SitesMineral%20Point.htm > > (8) A daughter of William INKS, Catherine INKS, married Andrew McCLURE, > a gunsmith. Andrew and Catherine appear on the 1850 census page 383 > (as "McLune"), 3 houses away from Wilson and Sarah [PYEATT] SLED[D] > and 5 houses away from Elisha INK[S], William C. INK[S], John PIET, > and Elisha PIET. Note that Jacob and Olivia PYEATT named one son Andrew > McClure PYEATT (b1834 MO). > -- Source: 1850 census and > http://www.familysearch.com/Eng/Search/PRF/individual_record_prf.asp?recid=2 > 50420136 > > ========== > > Other information about the William INKS family can be found at the > following locations: > -- Pike Family Genealogy Forum: Sarah PIKE/ William INKS > http://genforum.genealogy.com/pike/messages/161.html > -- Inks Genealogy Contacts > http://www.nwlink.com/~smithwri/inks/inkslinx.htm > -- Inks Family Genealogy Forum: Re: INKS Family > http://genforum.genealogy.com/inks/messages/50.html > -- World Connect Project > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=j > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jaswhit > e&id=I3371 > -- Zumwalt Family Page: William INKS (ABT. 1776 - UNKNOWN) > http://www.zumwalts.com/zumwalt0801/d0009/g0009742.html > -- Hero William INKS of St.Louis visited [graves of William & Wm. C.] > http://genforum.genealogy.com/inks/messages/92.html > -- Major William C. Inks (saving his grave! > http://genforum.genealogy.com/inks/messages/107.html > ALSO SEE -- Inks Family Genealogy Forum [search for William and for Elisha] > http://genforum.genealogy.com/inks/ > > > >Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 08:32:06 -0700 (PDT) > >From: Marianne Pyeatt <mcpgene@excite.com> > >Subject: [PIATT] New clue/surname PART II > >To: PIATT-L@rootsweb.com > >Resent-From: PIATT-L@rootsweb.com > >Reply-To: PIATT-L@rootsweb.com > > > >I am SOOOOO excited. I was reviewing the estate papers from the estate of > >John Piatt who died in Jefferson County, MO, cDec 1827. It is about 55 pages > >of receipts, accountings, bonds, etc. Anyway, I noticed that when the add > >was placed in the St Louis Times in 1832 for the final settlement that it > >read "Received of Benjamin Pyeatt by the hands of WILLIAMS INKS four > >dollars". Now, I kept staring at the name 'Inks' as it looked really > >familiar - like I had studied it recently and it dawned on me - that my > >Julie/Juke/Julic/etc that I emailed about a few days ago (Olive Juke' as > >mother of William D Pyeatt on his death certificate) could be INKS!!!! So, > >now, what does anyone know about William Inks in Jefferson County (and his > >connection to Olivia McClure Pyeatt) or a PYEATT/INKS connection elsewhere. > >Thanks!! Marianne > > > >Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 20:10:44 -0700 (PDT) > >From: Marianne Pyeatt <mcpgene@excite.com> > >Subject: [PIATT] Another clue/surname? > >To: PIATT-L@rootsweb.com > >Resent-From: PIATT-L@rootsweb.com > >Reply-To: PIATT-L@rootsweb.com > > > >I received today the death certificate of William D(udley) Pyeatt who died > >March 4, 1912 in Plattin Twp, Jefferson Co, MO. His date and place of birth > >are given as Feb 4, 1831 and St. Louis, Mo. His father's name and place of > >birth are given as Jacob Pyeatt and St. Louis, Mo. (both 'fit' other > >information). His mother's maiden name and place of birth are given as Olive > >Juki or Juke' or Julie or Julic and St. Louis, Mo. (our information is > >Olivia McClure, d/o Andrew, born Kentucky). The informant is Diana Pyeatt of > >Plattin, MO (his widow) Burial in Charter Cemetery. Undertaker is T S Byrd. > > > >So, is this 'Julic/Juke' name a middle name or surname? Do any of the > >possible spelling looks familiar to anyone in Jefferson County or the > >various Pyeatt/Piatt lines? Does anyone in Jefferson County know anything > >about T S Byrd? One of William and Diana's sons was named Washington Byrd > >Pyeatt and I've always thought that it was due to a family connection. This > >could be a brother-in-law, nephew, etc. Finally! Some new clues!! Marianne > _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/