I've been looking for the location of Temperance Mission Church (historical) in Jefferson county. It was a Baptist church. I didn't know until now that there was a Temperance Mission Cemetery. I have no further information. Mike On Tue, 2 Jan 2007, gcjohnston@worldnet.att.net wrote: >Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 10:42:23 -0800 >From: "Gary Johnston" <gcjohnston@worldnet.att.net> >Subject: [MOJEFFER] Temperance Mission >To: "JeffCo" <mojeffer@rootsweb.com> > >I have an ancestor who died in 1923 in Valle Township and was buried at "Temperance >Mission" Cemetery in Jefferson County, MO. I cannot find it listed anywhere. Does anyone >know where this Cemetery is?

After 4 years of looking, thanks to Tim and Jody's help, Carole Goggin and I have located the McClain/Rouggley Cemetery. The reason I couldn't find it was all the records available had it in Section 36. It is in Section 25. We also changed the name to Peter P. McClain Cemetery as Peter P. was the first person to purchase the land and he is buried there. The Rouggleys married into the family later. The Jefferson County Historical Society site has these changes online. McClain, Peter P. Cemetery T39 R5 S25 Originally recorded November 7, 1983 by Jean O'Brien, Frank and Helen Magre Verified onsite by Dave Hallemann & Carole Goggin December 28, 2006 Three monuments with footstones FRAZIER, Sarah H., d. Feb 1 1865, Wife of H.B.; Aged 18 yrs MCCLAIN, Elizabeth, d. Jan 23 1863 Daughter of D. & D. A. McLain; Aged 9 ms (?) dys; Same stone as Peter, Hand carved into bottom of Peter's monument MCCLAIN, Peter P., d. Jun 27 1862, Aged 50 yrs 19 days PORTER, Abigail, d. Feb 06 1844, Wife of A.T. Porter in the 29th year of her age UNKNOWN 8 Graves none given none given McClain Dave Hallemann Sleuth.Em@sbcglobal.net

Linda, I looked at the death certificate and I think it is Wease Graveyard. This would be in Brimmer's area. Although I haven't been there yet I know about where it should be. It is located off White School Road just past the Fox Run Golf Course about 1/2 mile past the Kidd Cemetery. You would have a very hard time finding it as I have drove the area and couldn't see anything. Dave Hallemann Sleuth.Em@sbcglobal.net

The Temperance Mission is NOT in Jefferson County. It is Primrose Baptist Church in St. Francois County off Hwy E. south of De Soto. Kidd Cemetery is off Hwy W on Patty Lane NW of House Springs. Dave Hallemann Sleuth.Em@sbcglobal.net

I'm researching the following surnames: STULCE (Frank s/o Charles G. Jr. s/o Charles G. Sr. s/o Abner L.) - via VA, TN, MO DEGONIA (Gertrude N. d/o Thomas J.) - Morse Mill, MO REYNOLDS (Martha J.) GORDON (Charles A.) MONTGOMERY (Lyone d/o Thomas) BRAND (Martha C. d/o Daniel s/o James E.) CARR (Margaret) BURNETT (Nancy A.) RIPPEE (Lulu E. d/o John I. s/o Arthur) Abner L. STULCE married Nancy A. BURNETT on Sept. 23, 1819 in Knox Co., TN. I have found that Abner was originally from VA born about 1795, but can't really find too much more about this as most of the info I found shows him living and dying in TN in 1875. Civil War discharge papers from his son, Charles G. Sr., shows Abner as being from VA. I don't have a lot of official information on Nancy other than census information and the marriage record, which tells she was born about 1792. It is rumored that Nancy was of Native American heritage, but have no proof on this. Abner and Nancy had quite a few children: Charles G., Anderson L., Charlotte, John M., Nancy, America C., Thomas, Abner S., Mary J., Leonard H. and Lafayette. Charles G. STULCE Sr. married Margaret CARR on Oct. 30, 1859 in TN. Charles was born on Feb. 16, 1839 in Meigs Co., TN/died Dec. 17, 1897 in Crawford Co., MO. According to census info, Margaret was born about 1848 in Germany. She would have died sometime after 1930 in Crawford Co., MO. Charles and Margaret's children were: Charles G. Jr., John A., Winnie, Andrew J. and Nancy J. Charles G. STULCE Jr. married Martha C. BRAND on July 1, 1895. Charles was born in 1877 in Crawford Co., MO. and died in 1961 in Moselle, MO. Martha was born Sep. 27, 1977 in Lick Creek community, Crawford Co, MO and died Nov. 6, 1947 in Sherman, MO. Charles and Martha's children were: Frank, Lola K., Hugh L., Raymond A., Goldie and Ollie A. Charles & Martha divorced sometime before 1918 as he was remarried to Lulu E. RIPPEE on June 18, 1918 in Union, MO. Lulu was born Dec. 4, 1876 in Moselle, MO and died Nov. 5, 1937 in Robertsville, MO. Charles remarried to Eulalia (?) sometime after 1937. According to Eulalia's headstone, she was born in 1886 and died 1958. She and Charles are buried in the St. Clair United Methodist Cemetery, St. Clair, MO. I'm looking for any information on Eulalia. Frank STULCE married Lyone MONTGOMERY-DEGONIA on Jan. 17, 1936 in MO. Frank was born July 31 1908 in Moselle, MO and died July 1976 in Moselle, MO. Lyone was born Jan. 31, 1916 in Morse Mill, MO and died May 1, 2001 in Union, MO. Lyone's mother was Gertrude N. DEGONIA and father was Thomas MONTGOMERY, who never married. I don't have any information about Thomas, other than Lyone had no contact with him after she was born. I've seen a few other email about a Thomas Montgomery and wonder if he is the same. Frank and Lyone's children are all currently living. After Frank's passing, Lyone married Phillip P. COLLINS sometime around 1988. Phillip was born in 1915 and died in 1997 in St. Clair, MO. Charles A. GORDON Sr. married Gertrude N. DEGONIA. Charles was born Aug. 10, 1900 and died April 10, 1977. Gertrude was born Nov. 24, 1898 and died Oct. 27, 1968. They are buried with a lot of their relatives in an unknown cemetary next to the Church of God/Faith of Abraham Church, near Morse Mill, MO. Does anyone know the name of this cemetary? I believe you take Hwy 30 to Hwy BB in Cedar Hill to get to Morse Mill, where this cemetary exists. Gertrude's parents were Thomas J. DEGONIA and Martha J. REYNOLDS. Thanks, Ken Stulce kstulce@gmail.com House Springs, MO

I read it as "Neese grave yard" which would is probably the same as "Nees Cemetery" on the Jefferson County cemetery page. Rick Saunders

Thank you all for being patient. I also need to know where Kidd cemetery is located. Thanks Linda

I need to see if someone out there can read the name of the cemetery on one of the death certificates from the state of Missouri. I would appreciate it if someone has time to look at this for me. Name of deceased is Salesta Lindsey. She died 2 July 1910. She was handled by Brimmer funeral home in House Springs but I cannot decipher the name of the cemetery. Any help would be very much appreciated Linda

--------- Trying to find family of Antoine August Bandlier (spelled various ways) who married Theresa Morice/Maurice. He died in 1910 in Crystal City, MO. On the 1900 Census Theresa is living and there are three children listed Elford (Alford?) b. 1889, Thomas b. 1894, and Francis bn. 1897. Theresa was living in 1910 when her husband Antoine August Bandlier died. Apparently she was deceased when her son Thomas b. 1894 died in 1918. Also, when her brother Noah Morice died in 1917 she was not listed in the obituary. Have not been able to find her Death Certificate in MO. Archives. Thomas was single and lived in Festus-Crystal City area, he worked for Pittsburgh Plate Glass. Fred Bandlier was the informant on his death certificate. Was this a brother?, possibly the Francis b. 1897?? Antoine August Bandlier/Bondlier was a brother to Henry Bandelier (1876-1952) who died in St. Louis, also a brother to Adolph "Dolph" Bondelier who retired from PPG and lived in Crystal City. Adolph md. Eugenia Labrerere/Labruyere. Antoine August Bondelier, Adolph Bondelier and Henry Bondelier were all born in Illinois They were the children of August Bandlier and Martha Aubuchon. Their father was born in Switzerland and their mother in Missouri (where?) There may have been other children in the family. I do not have a marriage record for Antoine August and Therese Maurice/Morice. They may have been married in Jefferson County. Therese was the daughter of Alexander Maurice and was born in Ste. Genevieve County. Appreciate any help. The name Bandlier was spelled various ways and same was true for the Maurice name which makes it difficult to search. Bernadine

I am trying to find the family of Henry C. LaRose, son of Zenon LaRose, who was the first mayor of Festus. He and his father had a store in Festus in, or about 1900. Henry married Elizabeth Schweiss. On the 1900 Census for Jefferson County I find him in Festus. Henry C. b. Sept. 1858 Elizabeth Oct. 1860 Leo H. Oct. 1883 August March 1887 Hattie March 1890 Catherine Dec. 1891 Ada March 1894 Florence July 1896 Thanks! Bernadine

LaRose, Morice/Maurice, Carron/Carrow, Charleville, LaHaye, Roussin, Boyer. Bernadine blbishop1201@juno.com

I have an ancestor who died in 1923 in Valle Township and was buried at "Temperance Mission" Cemetery in Jefferson County, MO. I cannot find it listed anywhere. Does anyone know where this Cemetery is?

I wanted to thank everyone who responded to my last email regarding the problems I was having with the database. It must have been a glitch somewhere either with my computer or the archive database. I waited a while and tried again and every one came up as usual. Another I noticed was that requests that previously needed to be sent for, is now online and printable. What a great thing the archives are doing. Happy New year to you all. Linda

I've been trying to make a connection to Edward Dicus of Jefferson County too. Dicus isn't a real common name & I feel there just has to be a connection to my family. Here is what I have on my branch of the Dicus family: http://carrollscorner.net/Dicus.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Mondy To: mojeffer@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 3:54 PM Subject: [MOJEFFER] Roll Call Surnames I am researching the Wallace/Wallis, Speed, & Dicus families of Jefferson Co., MO. These seem to be my "brick walls." The Wallace family moved from Jefferson Co., IL to Jefferson Co., MO. His name was George Washington Wallace. His parents were William Green Wallace and Catherine Goddard. The Speed family was from KY and I do have information on that line. The Dicus family is from an Edward (William) Dicus who married Susan Speed. Can't find the family he belongs to. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

When the Death certificates came out for Missouri, I submitted several names and made copies of the list so I could go back later. Today I went back and every name I put in before is coming up "no Records found". I have the original printout in front of me, so I know this is not true. One of my names gave me 20 hits last time and now nothing. Could someone explain to me why this is happening? Thanks for any help you can offer. Linda

Ok this Graham family stuff has had me at the computer all evening and digging thru my misc. files. And of course....I got sidetracked... I need to know where I can find divorce records for Jefferson Co ca 1900-1907. Turns out my grandmother's first husband, Ben Merseal, died 3 years after she married my grandfather. Years ago I found the marriage record for Martha Kyle and Ben Merceal in Jeff Co records...the original books, they do not show up in the index for some reason. So I know they were married. They had 3 kids, Emma, Stephen, and a young child who died at around age 2, possibly named Benjamin. Grandma was working as a cook in St. Louis at the Jefferson Hotel (so Grandpa always said, but who the heck knows...so much else about her was fabricated due to her parentage). They married in June 1908. The story was that Ben Merseal was an alcoholic and died in the MoPac Hospital. Well, he died in DeSoto and Emma's 1/2 brother Mike Kyle was the informant on the death certificate. Sometimes it's a good thing these people are long dead so I can't stir up a hornet's nest asking questions. So...divorce records online or an index for that time period? ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

LOL - Honey - cans of worms is what we are all about!!! So now we can go after it and see what it says. -----Original Message----- From: wckrzyzanowski@aol.com To: lsnehring@aol.com; marthabell43@yahoo.com; mojeffer@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 5:53 PM Subject: Re: MOJEFFER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 97 I should have known that I would open up a big can of worms when I sent that email! It seems to me that Elroy Lucas and I had found an index of Jefferson College holdings that included a will. We never went after it, since Luke was so sick. The listing made reference to George Graham being Samuel's son. It may well be that who ever was transcribing the index inferred something that wasn't there. Wendy -----Original Message----- From: lsnehring@aol.com To: marthabell43@yahoo.com; mojeffer@rootsweb.com Cc: wckrzyzanowski@aol.com Sent: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 3:08 PM Subject: Re: MOJEFFER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 97 Hi Martha, Never found a probate record for George, don't think I ever found any deeds for him either. They seemed to be of the kind that left little public record. Who is David descended from? I have to refresh my memory on this line - nothing new on it for ages so I have put it at the bottom of things. I will look at all my notes from years past and see if I have anything we can collaborate on. -----Original Message----- From: marthabell43@yahoo.com To: mojeffer@rootsweb.com Cc: lsnehring@aol.com; wckrzyzanowski@aol.com Sent: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 6:42 AM Subject: Re: MOJEFFER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 97 Hi Linda and Wendy, I was wondering the same thing about Samuel Graham being the father of George GRAHAM. I know we talked about it being logical but never have found proof. Have either of you found any of the land records for the Grahams in Jefferson county? I know the Samuel Graham had an early land grant but have never been able to get copies of the original documents. Maybe if we find those and then follow the transaction for the land we can get some more clues. Does anyone know if Samuel or George had a will that would give some clues? Were do we look for those documents in Missouri? For the record my husband David is a direct descendant of George Graham and Margaret West too. Wendy is his 1st cousin. Martha Bell in Florida Message: 4 Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 19:25:55 -0500 From: lsnehring@aol.com Subject: Re: [MOJEFFER] Roll Call To: wckrzyzanowski@aol.com, mojeffer-l@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8C8FB52898A1842-A10-DD4F@WEBMAIL-MC07.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Wendy - Do we have definitive proof on that Samuel being George's father? Last time we talked there was a lot of speculation, but noting concrete. For the list - I am also descended from George and Margaret (West) Graham via their daughter Germima. Linda -----Original Message----- From: wckrzyzanowski@aol.com To: mojeffer-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 6:05 PM Subject: [MOJEFFER] Roll Call Surnames I am researching include SAMUEL GRAHAM, and his son GEORGE GRAHAM and wife MARGARET WEST. Their son ALFRED GRAHAM married GEMIMA KYLE, daughter of THOMAS and PRISCILLA ROQUES KYLE . PRISCILLA ROQUES is daughter of JOHN ROQUES and MARGUERITE BUDWELL. THOMAS KYLE'S parents are assumed to be MATTHEW JOSEPH KYLE and his presumed wife SARAH POLLY SMITH. Wendy Baumann Krzyzanowski __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

I should have known that I would open up a big can of worms when I sent that email! It seems to me that Elroy Lucas and I had found an index of Jefferson College holdings that included a will. We never went after it, since Luke was so sick. The listing made reference to George Graham being Samuel's son. It may well be that who ever was transcribing the index inferred something that wasn't there. Wendy -----Original Message----- From: lsnehring@aol.com To: marthabell43@yahoo.com; mojeffer@rootsweb.com Cc: wckrzyzanowski@aol.com Sent: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 3:08 PM Subject: Re: MOJEFFER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 97 Hi Martha, Never found a probate record for George, don't think I ever found any deeds for him either. They seemed to be of the kind that left little public record. Who is David descended from? I have to refresh my memory on this line - nothing new on it for ages so I have put it at the bottom of things. I will look at all my notes from years past and see if I have anything we can collaborate on. -----Original Message----- From: marthabell43@yahoo.com To: mojeffer@rootsweb.com Cc: lsnehring@aol.com; wckrzyzanowski@aol.com Sent: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 6:42 AM Subject: Re: MOJEFFER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 97 Hi Linda and Wendy, I was wondering the same thing about Samuel Graham being the father of George GRAHAM. I know we talked about it being logical but never have found proof. Have either of you found any of the land records for the Grahams in Jefferson county? I know the Samuel Graham had an early land grant but have never been able to get copies of the original documents. Maybe if we find those and then follow the transaction for the land we can get some more clues. Does anyone know if Samuel or George had a will that would give some clues? Were do we look for those documents in Missouri? For the record my husband David is a direct descendant of George Graham and Margaret West too. Wendy is his 1st cousin. Martha Bell in Florida Message: 4 Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 19:25:55 -0500 From: lsnehring@aol.com Subject: Re: [MOJEFFER] Roll Call To: wckrzyzanowski@aol.com, mojeffer-l@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8C8FB52898A1842-A10-DD4F@WEBMAIL-MC07.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Wendy - Do we have definitive proof on that Samuel being George's father? Last time we talked there was a lot of speculation, but noting concrete. For the list - I am also descended from George and Margaret (West) Graham via their daughter Germima. Linda -----Original Message----- From: wckrzyzanowski@aol.com To: mojeffer-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 6:05 PM Subject: [MOJEFFER] Roll Call Surnames I am researching include SAMUEL GRAHAM, and his son GEORGE GRAHAM and wife MARGARET WEST. Their son ALFRED GRAHAM married GEMIMA KYLE, daughter of THOMAS and PRISCILLA ROQUES KYLE . PRISCILLA ROQUES is daughter of JOHN ROQUES and MARGUERITE BUDWELL. THOMAS KYLE'S parents are assumed to be MATTHEW JOSEPH KYLE and his presumed wife SARAH POLLY SMITH. Wendy Baumann Krzyzanowski __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

My brick wall in Jefferson Co. is my grandmother Esther or Easter Jameson who was the wife of my gr. grandfather Robert. I can't find her parents anywhere. They lived in Jefferson Co. in the 1830's and disappeared after that. I have some papers pertaining to some of the attendees that are not included in the reunion book available at the DeSoto library, which may interest some descendants of some of the members. A list of the members at the 1928 reunion include the following names: Porter, Hill, Byrd, McComack, Sherman, Weaver, McDonald, Lamboer?, Burnside, Miller, Jackson, McKee, Evans, Winer, Freese, Cromwell, Atkinson, Stroup, Gaines, Myers, McMullin, plus two I cannot read. Other members listed at various reunions are:Donnell, Hawkins, Thomas, McClain, England, Boyce, Thompson, Waggener, Jarvis, Berry, Lee, Scaggs, Gamache, Eaken, Walker, Reppy, Ehricks, Hemme, Stone, Charles, Bohmie, Strattman. I have a list of some of the names of some people who married McMullins, but am not sure all are from Jefferson Co. Ellen McMullin MacKenzie McMullin Marriages-various spouses: Addis Amsden Beasley Belleville Bohmie Butler Byrnes Cape Clemons Couch Curtis Daniels Douglas Drake Edwards Fitzer Fleming Gowan Greer Hammers Haverstick Honey Jackson Jameson Johnson Jullius Kernan McCob McKee McMullins marry: McNulty Miller Null Pinson Pollard Randolph Reppy Skees Smith Spencer Sutton Thomas Thurman Tilletson Turner Vivret Volkes Ware Whalen Wideman Wiley Williams Winer Yealy

Hi Martha, Never found a probate record for George, don't think I ever found any deeds for him either. They seemed to be of the kind that left little public record. Who is David descended from? I have to refresh my memory on this line - nothing new on it for ages so I have put it at the bottom of things. I will look at all my notes from years past and see if I have anything we can collaborate on. -----Original Message----- From: marthabell43@yahoo.com To: mojeffer@rootsweb.com Cc: lsnehring@aol.com; wckrzyzanowski@aol.com Sent: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 6:42 AM Subject: Re: MOJEFFER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 97 Hi Linda and Wendy, I was wondering the same thing about Samuel Graham being the father of George GRAHAM. I know we talked about it being logical but never have found proof. Have either of you found any of the land records for the Grahams in Jefferson county? I know the Samuel Graham had an early land grant but have never been able to get copies of the original documents. Maybe if we find those and then follow the transaction for the land we can get some more clues. Does anyone know if Samuel or George had a will that would give some clues? Were do we look for those documents in Missouri? For the record my husband David is a direct descendant of George Graham and Margaret West too. Wendy is his 1st cousin. Martha Bell in Florida Message: 4 Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 19:25:55 -0500 From: lsnehring@aol.com Subject: Re: [MOJEFFER] Roll Call To: wckrzyzanowski@aol.com, mojeffer-l@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8C8FB52898A1842-A10-DD4F@WEBMAIL-MC07.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Wendy - Do we have definitive proof on that Samuel being George's father? Last time we talked there was a lot of speculation, but noting concrete. For the list - I am also descended from George and Margaret (West) Graham via their daughter Germima. Linda -----Original Message----- From: wckrzyzanowski@aol.com To: mojeffer-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 6:05 PM Subject: [MOJEFFER] Roll Call Surnames I am researching include SAMUEL GRAHAM, and his son GEORGE GRAHAM and wife MARGARET WEST. Their son ALFRED GRAHAM married GEMIMA KYLE, daughter of THOMAS and PRISCILLA ROQUES KYLE . PRISCILLA ROQUES is daughter of JOHN ROQUES and MARGUERITE BUDWELL. THOMAS KYLE'S parents are assumed to be MATTHEW JOSEPH KYLE and his presumed wife SARAH POLLY SMITH. Wendy Baumann Krzyzanowski __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.