Tip: One suggestion for those not partial to Roll Calls is to add "Roll Call" to your email subject block list and those emails will be auto deleted from your mailbox. Check the help section of your email program on the how to's. You can visit the archives (see bottom of page) and view past posts by month-browse or year-search. http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/MO/jefferson.html Yes, hitting the delete button can be a nuisance but everyone usually is sure to place the subject title & helps many avoid the topic. (Rootsweb leaves the decision of Roll Calls up to each list mom/dad and preferably initiated by them and only on occasion.) For this list, the majority seems to find it very useful and welcoming around this slow time of the year and it leads to great discussions and connections on and off list. Positive note: As the archives are not the easiest to search for everyone, typing in Roll Call in the search box can narrow down researchers/surname for you during a particular year. And visiting the Roll Call list, also great tip. Wishing great connections for everyone this year! LaDonna -------------------------- List Administrator Mojeffer-admin@rootsweb.com

:o) Linda in MO (researching HERZOG, SCHWENK, ZEIGELMEYER, HAMPEL, KLODT in Jefferson County - keeping any eye on the BLANK connections too.)

I read all the roll call emails.... I must admit, that when I see a "roll call" I sigh and say "oh, here we go!!" It does take up a bit of your time to do this BUT when you get a level deeper into your research you will want to know your neighbors!! What about the people that lived next door, the friends....I have actually found people that were distantly connected that ended up with photographs?? how does that happen?? sometimes friends hang on to things more than family and you never know what you will find. I also try to keep a mental list of names and when I find something I can pass it on, I may not remember who is researching the name but can throw it on the list and hopefully the right person will find it. Makes researching more fun, if I don't find something for myself, maybe I will find something for someone else. Remember our ancestors walked the same streets!! I am sure they would be happy if we were helping each other out! Roll on Roll callers!!! :o) Linda in MO (researching HERZOG, SCHWENK, ZEIGELMEYER, HAMPEL, KLODT in Jefferson County - keeping any eye on the BLANK connections too.)

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In answer to the question about location of the Jefferson County MOJEFFER-L archives, this web page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/MO/jefferson.html has a link to both browsing and searching the mailing list archives. And it's true of the MOJEFFER-L archive that search results include instances of the word in both the subject and body of the messages. Cheers, Joy Joy Schwarz http://del.icio.us/freude researching the Wells and Marsh surnames in Clark & Jefferson County, MO and Lee County, IA On 1/5/07, Ken Stulce <kstulce@gmail.com> wrote: > This senseless debate could go on forever! Obviously, I think the roll call > was a good idea and you don't and think it's about as close to spam as you > can get. That's fine. I'm just saying that for those who don't tend to > participate in the conversations when it doesn't pertain to them might have > saw a surname that sparked their interest, like it did me, and gave them an > opportunity to chime in, which I did! > > Since I wasn't aware of a Roll Call list, which I'm sure others were in the > same category, and since that list is totally separate from this one, as > this pertains to Jefferson County and the other is all of Missouri, how > would a roll call on this list be a waste? > > Oh, as far as the archives, where are they located? I did some searching > for them and didn't find any links from the JCHS or JC rootsweb websites. > Also, typically when you do a search on an archive, more than just the > subject line is searched, so any surnames in the body would be picked up as > well. > > --Ken > > On 1/5/07, AlterIdem1@aol.com <AlterIdem1@aol.com> wrote: > > > > Thank you for listing the searchable roll call site, Joy. > > > > This is usually what most list administrators refer to when requesting > > that > > roll calls not be done on county mailing lists. > > > > As far as the earlier comment regarding generating excitement on the > > list...hmmm? > > Does that mean the list isn't exciting enough without roll > > calls? Wouldn't > > at least an equal amount of interest be generated with specific or general > > requests for specific names? > > > > > > In a message dated 1/4/2007 8:26:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > joy.schwarz@gmail.com writes: > > > > > > Hi - > > > > > > There's a separate RootsWeb mailing list called MO-ROLLCALL-L that's > > > just for Missouri roll calls; details on subscribing &a searchable > > > archive is available at > > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/MO/misc.html#MO-ROLLCALL > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Joy

Genealogy Night at the Park Hills Library will be this Monday evening, Jan, 8th, 6p to 8p. Everyone's welcome! Sue

I too like the Roll Call on this site. My relatives were from Jefferson Co & I find others searching for the same Surnames, which sometimes gives me additional info or leads. I wasn't aware that there was a Roll Call site on Rootsweb until someone mentioned it. When Roll Calls come up, I just skim through them for names & delete if not of interest to me or to someone I know. I don't put any names on there that isn't from Jefferson Co, for those I go to the area they were from or living. Thanks to all that summited their surnames, but also wish more info was attached so common names (eg) Smith, Brown, Johnson, etc. could make it easier for people searching the same names Fran

This senseless debate could go on forever! Obviously, I think the roll call was a good idea and you don't and think it's about as close to spam as you can get. That's fine. I'm just saying that for those who don't tend to participate in the conversations when it doesn't pertain to them might have saw a surname that sparked their interest, like it did me, and gave them an opportunity to chime in, which I did! Since I wasn't aware of a Roll Call list, which I'm sure others were in the same category, and since that list is totally separate from this one, as this pertains to Jefferson County and the other is all of Missouri, how would a roll call on this list be a waste? Oh, as far as the archives, where are they located? I did some searching for them and didn't find any links from the JCHS or JC rootsweb websites. Also, typically when you do a search on an archive, more than just the subject line is searched, so any surnames in the body would be picked up as well. --Ken On 1/5/07, AlterIdem1@aol.com <AlterIdem1@aol.com> wrote: > > Thank you for listing the searchable roll call site, Joy. > > This is usually what most list administrators refer to when requesting > that > roll calls not be done on county mailing lists. > > As far as the earlier comment regarding generating excitement on the > list...hmmm? > Does that mean the list isn't exciting enough without roll > calls? Wouldn't > at least an equal amount of interest be generated with specific or general > requests for specific names? > > > In a message dated 1/4/2007 8:26:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, > joy.schwarz@gmail.com writes: > > > > Hi - > > > > There's a separate RootsWeb mailing list called MO-ROLLCALL-L that's > > just for Missouri roll calls; details on subscribing &a searchable > > archive is available at > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/MO/misc.html#MO-ROLLCALL > > > > Cheers, > > Joy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you for listing the searchable roll call site, Joy. This is usually what most list administrators refer to when requesting that roll calls not be done on county mailing lists. As far as the earlier comment regarding generating excitement on the list...hmmm? Does that mean the list isn't exciting enough without roll calls? Wouldn't at least an equal amount of interest be generated with specific or general requests for specific names? In a message dated 1/4/2007 8:26:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, joy.schwarz@gmail.com writes: > > Hi - > > There's a separate RootsWeb mailing list called MO-ROLLCALL-L that's > just for Missouri roll calls; details on subscribing &a searchable > archive is available at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/MO/misc.html#MO-ROLLCALL > > Cheers, > Joy

Most lists I subscribe to ask you to put your surname list in the subject line. That way, a thread of responses will relate to the surnames in question. With the constant back and forth under the subject "Roll Call", when one searches the archives, the thread is among a muddled mess of responses, such as this one. Few people searching the archives for specific family lines will find much of interest in the responses to a "Roll Call" thread. As for the List Administrator "cleaning up" the responses, just how would you suggest that be formatted and communicated? I have observed no such attempt of clean up in this forum. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Stulce" <kstulce@gmail.com> To: <mojeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [MOJEFFER] Surname Roll Call > I'm sorry, but I have to disagree. The roll call gets the conversation and > topics going. I've noticed a lot of activity and surnames that I've never > saw in past emails until the roll call email was sent out. > > If you're worried about the archives, they call always be cleaned up by the > administrator and if you see emails such as this, hit the delete key. Also, > I've seen tactics such as this to get everyone excited and participating on > a lot of the genealogy boards and lists. Just be thankful this isn't the > Roots list on Rootsweb, otherwise you would be getting a TON of responses to > delete! :) > > Regarding the subject line, I usually skim through the body of the email, > especially if it is from this list and noticed that everyone is typing the > surnames in all caps, which is GREAT, so that you can find the names you're > looking for on your search. I despise when people put in a long subject > line, but if you were receiving email from a Lookup list, I can see your > point. > > --Ken > > On 1/4/07, AlterIdem1@aol.com <AlterIdem1@aol.com> wrote: > > > > I thought most mailing lists did not allow roll calls. > > They just junk up the archives (not to mention our in-boxes). > > > > The best way to get informative results is to post a specific note with a > > specific subject line. There is no advantage to posting a list of > > surnames > > without dates and places. Giving a few details about a particular surname > > and > > asking for any additional information will get a far better response today > > and in > > year's to come. > > > > For those roll call postings which do include additional information on > > the > > names, but with the heading 'Roll Call' is about as useless as the subject > > line > > of "Do you know my family?" It is not informative. > > > > This note isn't intended to criticize, it's just to point out how to use > > these boards wisely. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MOJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi - There's a separate RootsWeb mailing list called MO-ROLLCALL-L that's just for Missouri roll calls; details on subscribing & a searchable archive is available at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/MO/misc.html#MO-ROLLCALL Cheers, Joy Joy Schwarz http://del.icio.us/freude researching the Wells and Marsh surnames in Clark County, MO and Lee County, IA On 1/4/07, Ken Stulce <kstulce@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm sorry, but I have to disagree. The roll call gets the conversation and > topics going. I've noticed a lot of activity and surnames that I've never > saw in past emails until the roll call email was sent out. > > If you're worried about the archives, they call always be cleaned up by the > administrator and if you see emails such as this, hit the delete key. Also, > I've seen tactics such as this to get everyone excited and participating on > a lot of the genealogy boards and lists. Just be thankful this isn't the > Roots list on Rootsweb, otherwise you would be getting a TON of responses to > delete! :) > > Regarding the subject line, I usually skim through the body of the email, > especially if it is from this list and noticed that everyone is typing the > surnames in all caps, which is GREAT, so that you can find the names you're > looking for on your search. I despise when people put in a long subject > line, but if you were receiving email from a Lookup list, I can see your > point. > > --Ken > > On 1/4/07, AlterIdem1@aol.com <AlterIdem1@aol.com> wrote: > > > > I thought most mailing lists did not allow roll calls. > > They just junk up the archives (not to mention our in-boxes). > > > > The best way to get informative results is to post a specific note with a > > specific subject line. There is no advantage to posting a list of > > surnames > > without dates and places. Giving a few details about a particular surname > > and > > asking for any additional information will get a far better response today > > and in > > year's to come. > > > > For those roll call postings which do include additional information on > > the > > names, but with the heading 'Roll Call' is about as useless as the subject > > line > > of "Do you know my family?" It is not informative. > > > > This note isn't intended to criticize, it's just to point out how to use > > these boards wisely. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MOJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I thought most mailing lists did not allow roll calls. They just junk up the archives (not to mention our in-boxes). The best way to get informative results is to post a specific note with a specific subject line. There is no advantage to posting a list of surnames without dates and places. Giving a few details about a particular surname and asking for any additional information will get a far better response today and in year's to come. For those roll call postings which do include additional information on the names, but with the heading 'Roll Call' is about as useless as the subject line of "Do you know my family?" It is not informative. This note isn't intended to criticize, it's just to point out how to use these boards wisely.

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree. The roll call gets the conversation and topics going. I've noticed a lot of activity and surnames that I've never saw in past emails until the roll call email was sent out. If you're worried about the archives, they call always be cleaned up by the administrator and if you see emails such as this, hit the delete key. Also, I've seen tactics such as this to get everyone excited and participating on a lot of the genealogy boards and lists. Just be thankful this isn't the Roots list on Rootsweb, otherwise you would be getting a TON of responses to delete! :) Regarding the subject line, I usually skim through the body of the email, especially if it is from this list and noticed that everyone is typing the surnames in all caps, which is GREAT, so that you can find the names you're looking for on your search. I despise when people put in a long subject line, but if you were receiving email from a Lookup list, I can see your point. --Ken On 1/4/07, AlterIdem1@aol.com <AlterIdem1@aol.com> wrote: > > I thought most mailing lists did not allow roll calls. > They just junk up the archives (not to mention our in-boxes). > > The best way to get informative results is to post a specific note with a > specific subject line. There is no advantage to posting a list of > surnames > without dates and places. Giving a few details about a particular surname > and > asking for any additional information will get a far better response today > and in > year's to come. > > For those roll call postings which do include additional information on > the > names, but with the heading 'Roll Call' is about as useless as the subject > line > of "Do you know my family?" It is not informative. > > This note isn't intended to criticize, it's just to point out how to use > these boards wisely. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sharon, You have James, Thomas and Bertha in your list below, were they DeGonia's? I have a Bertha M. DeGonia married to a Lee Wiley, per information from my father. I also have Thomas J. DeGonia where he is listed as Bertha, James and Thomas's Father. Thanks, --Ken Stulce House Springs, MO On 12/30/06, SSmith3901@aol.com <SSmith3901@aol.com> wrote: > > Paul, Nephew, DeGonia > > William Ernest Nephew married Mary Lucille DeGonia in 1877 > > Their children were: > > Cloves > Agnes > Ella (my grandmother) > Tresia > Anna Arton b 1886 d 1912 > Frank > John > Clara > James > Thomas > Bertha > > Anna married Fred Paul and they lived in Herky. They had one son Howard > Paul who was born 1910. > > Anna committed suicide and is buried at Gamel Cemetery. Anna was at Fink > Funeral Home, which I don't know if it's still around or not. > > In the Jefferson County Record, Hillsboro, Mo. February 22, 1912, > it read: > > "Mrs. Fred Paul of Herculaneum committed suicide last week. Her remains > were bro't to Festus and laid to rest in the Gamel Cemetery. It is said > family > troubles was the cause. Her mother committed suicide a few years ago". > > My grandmother and father had told me that a Mecey/Missey/Massey had > raised > the boy, Howard after his mother died. I believe Fred remarried shortly > after > Anna's death. > > I had gotten an email from someone before about the family that raised > Howard, but had a computer crash several times and lost the information. > > Also in the Jefferson County Record, Hillsboro, Mo. April 13, 1911, part > 7, > it said: > > Seckman > > Jos. Yeager and family spent last Sunday at Fred Paul's, and helped > celebrate the communion of Mrs. Paul's oldest daughter, who was confirmed > in the > Lutheran church at Glaize creek last Sunday". > > This was confusing as Anna died 1912 and this was 1911. As far as I know > Anna and Paul only had 1 child, Howard. Perhaps this was > Fred's parents?? > > > Would appreciate any information on the family. > > Sharon in Arnold, Jefferson Co., Mo. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sharon, For your grandmother, Gertrude, listed below, what was her maiden/married name? Thanks, --Ken Stulce House Springs, MO On 12/30/06, SSmith3901@aol.com <SSmith3901@aol.com> wrote: > > Portell and DeGonia > > > My great grandparents were Zeno/Zamon Henry Portell and Mary > Cornelia Trokey > married 1871 in Washington Co., MO. > > Their children were: > > Mary Louise > Augustus Zeno > Victoria Alvina > Nellie > Joseph Walter Portell b 1885 d 1954, married Pauline M. DeGonia 23 Nov > 1910 > Anna Frances > Gertrude, my grandmother > Lorene Leona > > I am trying to get information on Joe and Pauline DeGonia > Portell. I know > they lived in Herky. Pauline was b 1893 d 1976. > > Sharon > Arnold, Jefferson Co., MO. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Art, Thanks for your reply. Per Lisa, it's listed on the JCHS as Soul Sleepers Cemetery (AKA Souls of Abraham). I don't recall even seeing a sign for the cemetery, which is why I ended up using the name for the church to name the cemetery. I took a lot of pictures from the cemetery, as a lot are relatives and have those if anyone needs them for the list. Thanks again. --Ken Stulce House Springs, MO On 1/3/07, Art Behrens <abehrens@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > The *Church of God Faith of Abraham Cemetery (Morse Mill Cemetery) *is > listed on the JEFFERSON COUNTY GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY website: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mojcgs/Cemetery_List.html<http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Emojcgs/Cemetery_List.html> > > It doesn't seem to be listed in the JCHS cemetery transcriptions unless by > another name. > > Art Behrens > Olivette, MO > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Ken Stulce <kstulce@gmail.com> > *To:* mojeffer@rootsweb.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 02, 2007 11:45 PM > *Subject:* Re: [MOJEFFER] Surname Roll Call > > I'm researching the following surnames: > > STULCE (Frank s/o Charles G. Jr. s/o Charles G. Sr. s/o Abner L.) - via > VA, > TN, MO > DEGONIA (Gertrude N. d/o Thomas J.) - Morse Mill, MO > REYNOLDS (Martha J.) > GORDON (Charles A.) > MONTGOMERY (Lyone d/o Thomas) > BRAND (Martha C. d/o Daniel s/o James E.) > CARR (Margaret) > BURNETT (Nancy A.) > RIPPEE (Lulu E. d/o John I. s/o Arthur) > > Abner L. STULCE married Nancy A. BURNETT on Sept. 23, 1819 in Knox Co., > TN. > I have found that Abner was originally from VA born about 1795, but can't > really find too much more about this as most of the info I found shows him > living and dying in TN in 1875. Civil War discharge papers from his son, > Charles G. Sr., shows Abner as being from VA. I don't have a lot of > official information on Nancy other than census information and the > marriage > record, which tells she was born about 1792. It is rumored that Nancy was > of Native American heritage, but have no proof on this. Abner and Nancy > had > quite a few children: Charles G., Anderson L., Charlotte, John M., Nancy, > America C., Thomas, Abner S., Mary J., Leonard H. and Lafayette. > > Charles G. STULCE Sr. married Margaret CARR on Oct. 30, 1859 in TN. > Charles > was born on Feb. 16, 1839 in Meigs Co., TN/died Dec. 17, 1897 in Crawford > Co., MO. According to census info, Margaret was born about 1848 in > Germany. She would have died sometime after 1930 in Crawford Co., MO. > Charles and Margaret's children were: Charles G. Jr., John A., Winnie, > Andrew J. and Nancy J. > > Charles G. STULCE Jr. married Martha C. BRAND on July 1, 1895. Charles > was > born in 1877 in Crawford Co., MO. and died in 1961 in Moselle, MO. Martha > was born Sep. 27, 1977 in Lick Creek community, Crawford Co, MO and died > Nov. 6, 1947 in Sherman, MO. Charles and Martha's children were: Frank, > Lola K., Hugh L., Raymond A., Goldie and Ollie A. > Charles & Martha divorced sometime before 1918 as he was remarried to Lulu > E. RIPPEE on June 18, 1918 in Union, MO. Lulu was born Dec. 4, 1876 in > Moselle, MO and died Nov. 5, 1937 in Robertsville, MO. Charles remarried > to > Eulalia (?) sometime after 1937. According to Eulalia's headstone, she > was > born in 1886 and died 1958. She and Charles are buried in the St. Clair > United Methodist Cemetery, St. Clair, MO. I'm looking for any information > on Eulalia. > > Frank STULCE married Lyone MONTGOMERY-DEGONIA on Jan. 17, 1936 in MO. > Frank > was born July 31 1908 in Moselle, MO and died July 1976 in Moselle, MO. > Lyone was born Jan. 31, 1916 in Morse Mill, MO and died May 1, 2001 in > Union, MO. Lyone's mother was Gertrude N. DEGONIA and father was Thomas > MONTGOMERY, who never married. I don't have any information about Thomas, > other than Lyone had no contact with him after she was born. I've seen a > few other email about a Thomas Montgomery and wonder if he is the same. > Frank and Lyone's children are all currently living. After Frank's > passing, > Lyone married Phillip P. COLLINS sometime around 1988. Phillip was born > in > 1915 and died in 1997 in St. Clair, MO. > > Charles A. GORDON Sr. married Gertrude N. DEGONIA. Charles was born Aug. > 10, 1900 and died April 10, 1977. Gertrude was born Nov. 24, 1898 and > died > Oct. 27, 1968. They are buried with a lot of their relatives in an > unknown > cemetary next to the Church of God/Faith of Abraham Church, near Morse > Mill, > MO. Does anyone know the name of this cemetary? I believe you take Hwy > 30 > to Hwy BB in Cedar Hill to get to Morse Mill, where this cemetary exists. > Gertrude's parents were Thomas J. DEGONIA and Martha J. REYNOLDS. > > Thanks, > > Ken Stulce > kstulce@gmail.com > House Springs, MO > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Bob, That would make us "way down the road" cousins! :P Do you have any additional information about Martha? I only have what was listed on her headstone, which was 1869-1957 and, per my Dad, I have a list of their children. Do you know who her parents were or where she was born, etc.? Thanks in advance. --Ken Stulce House Springs, MO On 1/3/07, Bob Patterson <bobpat2000@earthlink.net> wrote: > > Ken, > > Here's a bit of trivia for you. According to the relationship calculator > in > my Family Tree Maker program, Martha J. Reynolds is my half 2nd > great-grandaunt. I wonder what that makes you and me (if anything)? > > Bob Patterson > St. Louis, MO > >

Lisa, Thanks for your reply. The only thing that I'm noticing on the list for Soul Sleepers Cemetery is that the Gordon's are missing from the list, but I see a lot of the other relatives, like Woodall's, which Elsie was Gertrude and Charles' daughter and Cecil was their son-in-law, my father's Aunt and Uncle. I have pictures of their headstones from the cemetery to help fill in the missing, if needed. If you would like them, please let me know. Thanks again. --Ken Stulce kstulce@gmail.com On 1/3/07, Lisa Gendron <lgendron@swbell.net> wrote: > > Soul Sleepers Cemetery (AKA Souls of Abraham) is the one you are looking > for. It can be found here: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mojchs/index.html > > Lisa K. Gendron > > >

The Church of God Faith of Abraham Cemetery (Morse Mill Cemetery) is listed on the JEFFERSON COUNTY GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mojcgs/Cemetery_List.html It doesn't seem to be listed in the JCHS cemetery transcriptions unless by another name. Art Behrens Olivette, MO ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Stulce To: mojeffer@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 11:45 PM Subject: Re: [MOJEFFER] Surname Roll Call I'm researching the following surnames: STULCE (Frank s/o Charles G. Jr. s/o Charles G. Sr. s/o Abner L.) - via VA, TN, MO DEGONIA (Gertrude N. d/o Thomas J.) - Morse Mill, MO REYNOLDS (Martha J.) GORDON (Charles A.) MONTGOMERY (Lyone d/o Thomas) BRAND (Martha C. d/o Daniel s/o James E.) CARR (Margaret) BURNETT (Nancy A.) RIPPEE (Lulu E. d/o John I. s/o Arthur) Abner L. STULCE married Nancy A. BURNETT on Sept. 23, 1819 in Knox Co., TN. I have found that Abner was originally from VA born about 1795, but can't really find too much more about this as most of the info I found shows him living and dying in TN in 1875. Civil War discharge papers from his son, Charles G. Sr., shows Abner as being from VA. I don't have a lot of official information on Nancy other than census information and the marriage record, which tells she was born about 1792. It is rumored that Nancy was of Native American heritage, but have no proof on this. Abner and Nancy had quite a few children: Charles G., Anderson L., Charlotte, John M., Nancy, America C., Thomas, Abner S., Mary J., Leonard H. and Lafayette. Charles G. STULCE Sr. married Margaret CARR on Oct. 30, 1859 in TN. Charles was born on Feb. 16, 1839 in Meigs Co., TN/died Dec. 17, 1897 in Crawford Co., MO. According to census info, Margaret was born about 1848 in Germany. She would have died sometime after 1930 in Crawford Co., MO. Charles and Margaret's children were: Charles G. Jr., John A., Winnie, Andrew J. and Nancy J. Charles G. STULCE Jr. married Martha C. BRAND on July 1, 1895. Charles was born in 1877 in Crawford Co., MO. and died in 1961 in Moselle, MO. Martha was born Sep. 27, 1977 in Lick Creek community, Crawford Co, MO and died Nov. 6, 1947 in Sherman, MO. Charles and Martha's children were: Frank, Lola K., Hugh L., Raymond A., Goldie and Ollie A. Charles & Martha divorced sometime before 1918 as he was remarried to Lulu E. RIPPEE on June 18, 1918 in Union, MO. Lulu was born Dec. 4, 1876 in Moselle, MO and died Nov. 5, 1937 in Robertsville, MO. Charles remarried to Eulalia (?) sometime after 1937. According to Eulalia's headstone, she was born in 1886 and died 1958. She and Charles are buried in the St. Clair United Methodist Cemetery, St. Clair, MO. I'm looking for any information on Eulalia. Frank STULCE married Lyone MONTGOMERY-DEGONIA on Jan. 17, 1936 in MO. Frank was born July 31 1908 in Moselle, MO and died July 1976 in Moselle, MO. Lyone was born Jan. 31, 1916 in Morse Mill, MO and died May 1, 2001 in Union, MO. Lyone's mother was Gertrude N. DEGONIA and father was Thomas MONTGOMERY, who never married. I don't have any information about Thomas, other than Lyone had no contact with him after she was born. I've seen a few other email about a Thomas Montgomery and wonder if he is the same. Frank and Lyone's children are all currently living. After Frank's passing, Lyone married Phillip P. COLLINS sometime around 1988. Phillip was born in 1915 and died in 1997 in St. Clair, MO. Charles A. GORDON Sr. married Gertrude N. DEGONIA. Charles was born Aug. 10, 1900 and died April 10, 1977. Gertrude was born Nov. 24, 1898 and died Oct. 27, 1968. They are buried with a lot of their relatives in an unknown cemetary next to the Church of God/Faith of Abraham Church, near Morse Mill, MO. Does anyone know the name of this cemetary? I believe you take Hwy 30 to Hwy BB in Cedar Hill to get to Morse Mill, where this cemetary exists. Gertrude's parents were Thomas J. DEGONIA and Martha J. REYNOLDS. Thanks, Ken Stulce kstulce@gmail.com House Springs, MO ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is one in Osage county: http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=38.46389&lon=-91.72306&datum=NAD27&s=50&size=l Mike On , lwhgeneo@aol.com wrote: >From: lwhgeneo@aol.com >Subject: [MOJEFFER] Another cemetery >To: mojeffer@rootsweb.com > >Thank you all for being patient. I also need to know where Kidd cemetery is >located. Thanks >Linda