Am looking for my brick wall great great grandparents & Aunts/Uncles. W. L. Richards born ca 1800 in Ma. married ?? Rachel Castlemen born ca 1820 in Ohio children William H. born ca 1840 in Indiana Martin S. born 1842 in Indiana Martha born ca 1844 in Indiana Lewis M. born between 1845 - 1849 in Indiana Vianna born 1851 in Indiana Louise O. born 1851 in Indiana Valentine born ca 1853 in Indiana (male) Daniel B. born ca 1855 in Indiana Mary born ca 1858 in Indiana Lola B. born 1864 in Cape Giradeau, MO. The family at one time lied in St. Genevieve County, MO and by 1880 some of the family had moved to Pike County, IL. Any help or information would be appreciated. Bobbie

The John M Wilson Cemetery is located on a farm outside of Grubville. The family does not live on the farm regularly, and the owners are elderly and in poor health. Dave Hallemann is in the process of researching this cemetery, and he and I have photos of all the gravestones that could be identified two weeks ago. He will publish his findings to the Jefferson Historical Society when completed, and make copies available to the DeSoto and High Ridge libraries. The cemetery is across two fields, through a woods and up on top of a hill. The family has cattle and horses on the property, and there are several gates through which a person must pass. It is 4X4 access only. The family is willing to preserve the cemetery, but cannot work on it regularly due to health and St Louis jobs and family obligations. Please wait a few weeks and use the information Dave will publish in lieu of bothering the family at this time. They are very gracious, but an avalanche of folks when they are not home would probably have a very detrimental effect on that graciousness. When next I contact the family, I will ask their preferences concerning visiting the cemetery. Thank all of you Wilson researchers for your patience and understanding. Lynn McKay, TN ----- Original Message ----- From: <JRoth23350@aol.com> To: <MOJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 9:05 AM Subject: [MOJEFFER] John Wilson Cemetery > Hi, > Where is John Wilson Cemetery, Jeff. Co., MO. located? > Thanks > Joyce Roth > JRoth23350@aol.com > > > ==== MOJEFFER Mailing List ==== > There is no formal NOMAIL mode for the MOJEFFER list. If you > plan to be away for vacation or business for an extended period > of time, please unsubscribe and then resubscribe on your return. >

Good Morning! This is my first posting to the site and I am hoping that someone in Missouri will have a connection with my family. I have been researching this line for about 4 years and have hit brick walls. Last night I had it, and subscribed to every single Missouri county, so maybe I will have a breakthrough, or at least help someone else. This may be quite lengthy and if anyone needs clearification if I dont make sense somewhere, please let me know: Calvin Blankenship was born in Tennessee est. 1820-25. I know absolutely nothing about his parents, but in 1850 he was living next door to Wiliam and Pamela Jane Blankenship and their daughter Nancy, who was born in 1850. William was born a year or two after Calvin and he was also born in TN. I have to assume that they are related if not brothers. Calvin first appeared on the Texas County, District # 98 1850 Census with his Wife Delilah who was born in IL, her parents were born in TN, and three children: William P Angeline and James. His son, William was born abt. 1844 in MO so that indicates that they were in Missouri at least by 1844. By 1860, it is now called Boon Township and they have five more children : Nancy, Franklin, John, David, and Martha E. Calvin enlisted into the Confederate Army in 1861 and died in 1864. No military record exsists other than his Muster Roll. Then in 1870 and 1880 Delilah is the head of the household and in 1870 Henry (my gg grandfather) has appeared on the census for the first time. Deliah died between 1880-1883. She and Calvin are buried at Mitchell Cemetery. CALVIN AND DELIAH's CHildren and decendents I have only been about to locate two of Calvin's children on the census other than my gg grandfather: David b. abt 1857 married Margaret Sullins (daughter of Reuben Sullins) on May 6, 1886 in Licking Missouri. They had sic children: Dolts, Mary,Elmer,Alta (married Thomas Richards),Maggie, and lola. Angeline married Logan D. Harper. They had four girls: 1. Nancy Eliza : b. 1866 m. John W. Mitchell on July 23,1883 (Franklin Blankenship consented) in Licking, Missouri. They had 8 kids:William H, Carl L, Winnie M, Alma L, David, Justine, Eddie and Henry. 2. Mary, died young 3. Lucy b. 1870 married a Williams 4. Laura Ellen b. Sept 16, 1873 m. Edward Buckner (son of Thomas and Viney Buckner) had 6 kids: William Franklin b. Feb 10, 1893 m. Bertha Murr Logan James b. April 27, 1895 d. Mar 22, 1988 m. Thimsen Scranko and Mary Cochran Ethel b. July 1897 m. Hebrew Sukkins on Jan 30, 1915 Bryan b. Dec 22, 1899 m. Blanche Hobson Charles Allen b. Dec 22, 1903 m. Nell Hobson, d. April 2,1973 Ava Ruth b. Oct 18, 1905 Henry married Lillie Ellen Smith, daughter of James E. Madison Smith and Margaret Ellen Stricklin. They had 2 sons, Irven who married Rhoda Ormsby and Virgil who married Grace Viola Adkins, daughter of Charles Adkins and Hester Gatewood. I hope I made sense, and more importantly, a connection!

-----Original Message----- From: Pat Mata [mailto:pjmm@tcac.net] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 1:52 AM To: M0Jeffer Subject: {not a subscriber} Murrell search Does any one have any information on this line of Murrells from the local census or marriage records.. orbits etc.. Thanks, Patricia Murrell Mata Subject: WILLIAM A MURRELL I am seeking information regarding my great great grandfather and his family. I have tried here to give a narrative of information know to date, some stories that may have some validity and some other "interesting" things that have no connection at this time. William is first documented on the 1850 Ripley Co MO census. He is listed there as follows: William A Merrell 28 born in MO Lucinda 31 born in AL Sarah E 8 born in KY Mary 6 born in MO Diadema 2 born in MO. William is listed again in 1860, Ripley Co Mo census as follows: Wm A Merrell age 40 born in MO S age 42 b in AL SE age 19 b in KY M C 17 born in KY D age 12 born in MO. J H age 10 born in MO N J 8 born in MO M D 4 born in MO Joseph Enley 19 born in IN also spelled Ainley By 1870 the listing was WM A Murrell 48 born in MO Lucinda 55 born in AL Deda 21 born in MO Nancy 18 born in MO By1880 the listing was: William age 59 born in MO father in VA, mother in KY Lucinda age 59 born in AL father in MO and mother in KY Nancy J age 24 born in MO father in MO and mother in AL J H age 28 born in MO father in MO and mother in AL Mary A age 23 born in TN William Isaac age 5 born in MO Documentation from the United States Postal Service provided the following information: "William A Murrell was appointed the first postmaster of Dry Springs, MO on January 12, 1858. He served until the office was discontinued on January 20, 1868. The Dry Spring Post Office was re-established on June 25, 1879 and Mr. Murrell was appointed postmaster of the Dry Spring once again on April 17, 1883, serving until the office was discontinued on June 13,1895." This information was obtained from an old family bible in the fall of 1969. Alden Beardsley and Co Rochester published the bible: Wanger, Beardsley and Co 1852. Do not know if the information was written by William or not but it was in Calligraphy or Old English style. William A Murrell was born the 24 of December 1820. Lucinda Murrell was born 11 of October 1825. William and Lucinda Foy were married 11 of November 1845. Sarah Ellen born 14 of August 1841 Mary Charlotte born 1 March 1843 Diadema Emeline born 23 of February 1847 James Harvey born 6 of September 1851 Nancy Jane born 20 of March 1854 Wdora Adeline born 28 of February 1857 (May have been Eudora) Josie Taylor born 27 November 1858 Uncle E or Z.......? Died July 27, 1893 age 76 Wdora Adeline died 8 of November 1862 Sarah Ellen died January 13, 1863 Mary E died March 10, 1885 Also in the box was a billfold of a Richard Murrell, it is unknown who he was. Also known from Courthouse records, Doniphan, MO: Mary Charlotte married Jacob Odom November 21, 1867 Diadema Married William A Parish September 11, 1873. Nancy Jane Married Louis J Foy October 20, 1872 It is believed that both William and Lucinda Murrell lived out the rest of their life in Ripley Co MO. Listed in the Ripley Co Marriage records is the marriage of Josephine Jornigin to J H Murrell, September 5, 1886. It is known that Josephine was married before marrying Harvey Murrell. No one knows the name of the person now, however, my father told me that she might be hard to locate due to this fact. He knew she had been married before marrying his grandfather. Daddy told me that her husband died suddenly during the wheat harvest. They had one child that is also reported to have died. Josie was unconscious herself at that time. The family had to go ahead and bury her husband and child. When she recovered they had to tell her her family was gone. She suffered the rest of her life from the affects of what I believe was Dengue Fever, known in those days as BREAK BONE FEVER. Confirmed by other family members that remember her legs being wrapped with bandages. It is unknown where William Murrell and Lucinda Foy were married. It is also unknown who are the parents of the two children born prior to their marriage William A Murrell was a Justice of the Peace. He was also a furniture maker. He made chairs, spinning wheels as well as beds and highboys. It is further noted that William was Literate. His wife was not. The post office was location was situated in the NW fractional quarter of section Number 1 in Township 21 North Range one, of Ripley Co Mo. This is one and three fourths (1 3/4) S E of Poynor, MO. It is located four miles north of Middlebrook, AR. The property owned by William A Murrell was located at the following: the West fractional half of the North west fractional Quarter of fractional section ONE, in Town ship Twenty One North of Range One East in the District. This area is south of the present day Poynor, MO, near the MO-AR state line. This is just about the end of the known, documentation information on my family. There is a story in the family that the rest of William's family decided to move on..... Just where no one now knows. It goes on to describe a traveler, friend or acquaintance of the family who was returning east. Knowing he would go by the Murrell Place, which was on the "main road of the day" (I believe it was called the Old Military Road.) for traveling east to west, stopped by and gave William and family a message. The message was "everything is great come on out." The traveler went on his way. My father said his grandfather spent the rest of his days wondering what happened to his family. Since he did not go did they think that he had died? Since he never heard from then again, had they died? Was he afraid to move on? Perhaps, since that is the last place they had seen him. Unable to locate Murrells, I worked to locate Lucinda's family. Which I did thought another descendent. The first sightings of the Foys and Sims families is in Limestone Co, AL at the Sims Settlement. It was made up of 450 families who squatted on Chickasaw Lands. Benjamin Murrell came with the first group in 1806 from East TN. In 111807 Simon along with Thomas Dodd, Thomas Kyle, James Ford and their families came in four flat bottom boats from Hawkins Co TN, on the TN-VA border. They signed a petition in 1810to President Madison. On the petition are Simon Foy singer # 043, Benjamin Murrel #o44, Richard Murrell #059, William # 434. The petition can be found in the Territorial papers of the United State, Territory of Mississippi, 1809-1817. A Richard Murrell is listed as a Member of Burris' 16th regiment, War of 1812. It is not know if any of these Murrell are related to William A Murrell, but one would think so if enough information could be gathered. Another family in Limestone Co was that of Asa Taylor, the grandfather of Josie Taylor. Asa Taylor later settled near the state line.... of Ripley Co MO and Randolph Co AR. Simon and Charlotte Sims Foy settled in Graves Co KY where they remained, farming near the community of Dukedom on the TN border. They were early members of the Knob Creek Church of Christ. Other members were William and Lucinda Foy Murrell, Asa and Mary Taylor. This church was established in 1834 and these families were charter members. About 1845 several families settled around Glaze Creek, AR near Middlebrook, AR, among them was John Foy and family, and Asa Taylor and family. There have been several marriages between the Foy, Sims, Murrell and Parish families. Some connection of note, Sally Murrell daughter of R and H Murrell died November 15, 1856 age 43. She married a Foy, and is buried in the abandoned Foy Cemetery on Donald Clindin's farm south of Cuba, KY, on the ole Simon Foy homestead. Who were these Murrell? Was the R for Richard? John S Murrell and Nancy were members of the Knob Creek Church of Christ, Dukedom, Weakley Co TN. Any connection to William is unknown. Marion Co MO records a Marriage of WM Merrell to Martha Mays, April 17, 1838. Could that be an early marriage of William at the age of 18? If so would this account for the two children born in 1841-1843? Listed on the 1900 census of Clay Co MO is an "unreadable" Murrell age 52 born in OH, about 1848. He was a border and foreman at a Chair factory. Never have been able to locate any other information about this chair factory but again a reference to Murrell and chair making. Molly Sims married Benjamin Murrell. Charlotte Sims, her sister married Simon Foy. James Sims, a brother married Elizabeth Parish. Diadema E Murrell married William A Parish (Parrish) Sept 11, 1873. Buried in the Murrell cemetery is William Burrell Parrish and his wife Charlotte Elizabeth NcNatt. They were listed as W B Parish born 6-30-1837. His wife C E Parish wife of W B born 9-25-1837 d. 11-28-1911. Only a footstone remains for W G P who remains unidentified. B J Patterson, a Parish-Patterson-Merrell researcher believes they were the parents of yet another William A Parish. His research shows Diadema Murrell's husband to be the son of Nimrod Parish and Eliza Wren. Nimrod was born in Lawrence, AL 16 January 11845. Their son was born in Hickman Co KY 1847. Nimrod and William Burrell Parish both being sons of Wilson Parish and Nancy Morris. One reason for studying this is perhaps the migration from Rowan Co NC to Lawrence Co AL and McNairy Co TN and Hickman Co KY before coming to N E AR. In this line William MErrell per their descendents, family wills and other documents "my" William does not seem to fit. In Hickman Co KY, April 1895, there is recorded a Will of J B Murrell, named sons are R S Murrell B L Murrell and W P Murrell, daughter Ellen Wilson, brother H M Murrell and sister Diedema Austin...... is there a connection? Interestingly the name Diadema occurs in two other Murrell Connections. They seem to have a common origin in VA. It is a date to late to have direct connection to William A Murrell In my research I found this Murrell family in Weakley Co TN. Per the 1860 census three households are very interesting, in district 2 Elm Tree and Boydsville July 1860: Murrill, Mary L age 60 farming born TN household 1347 Murrill, Isaac 31 Chair Maker b TN Murrill, Harvey age 19 b TN Murrill, Joseph P age 17 b TN Murrill, B R age 28 Chair Maker b TN household 1351 Murrill, Martha age 18 b TN Merrell, Jery age 26, b TN household 1351 Murrell J B 36 Magistrate b MO household 1375 There was a special census taken in MO 1876. In Ripley Co MO listing is: William A Murrell over 45, Lucinda Murrell over 45. He had 2 horses, 1 mule, 6 cattle, 12 sheep, 42 hogs, 150 bushels of corn, 25 bushels of oats, 26 lbs of Wool, 1 ton of hay and 100 gal of Molasses. _________________________--- Listed under business at Dry Springs, Ripley Co Directory 1891: "Dry Spring is situated about twelve miles southwest of Doniphan, and was located about 40 years ago. W A Murrell, postmaster, Mr. Murrell has been postmaster about thirty years or more. He is a chair m maker, and accommodating gentlemen. He is a member of the Baptist Church."

Thought I would pass this information along to all of you MOJEFFER subscribers. If you have any questions, please contact Kelly directly at Kellygirl3398@mpinet.net Patty -----Original Message----- From: Kelly Courtney-Blizzard [mailto:Kellygirl3398@mpinet.net] Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 11:39 PM To: USGW_WEB-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [USGW_WEB] Census Lookup Mailing lists Hello Everyone ! I have had to reword and rework the guidelines for the CENSUS-LOOKUP mailing lists and also include subscription instructions. I am sending these below. The lists have been growing like crazy since I created them three days ago and I expect the growth to continue as the word spreads. Please feel free to forward this to anyone you feel may be interested in joining. Of course the more people we have the more help we will be for each other. Please keep in mind that we are only a few days old and if your lookup request is not answered, try again in a week or two. Some of the state lists have already reached over 150 subscribers <G> Others have not been "advertised" as much and have fewer members. Hang in there and don't get discouraged if your not answered right away, these lists will be a great asset to our research after we reach the people and let them know that these lists are available. I am encouraging everyone to send this email to their surname and county mailing lists as well as to our cousins. Finally, If you have the material to help a fellow researcher, please use it. Thanks, Kelly Kellygirl3398@mpinet.net (Subscription information at the end of this e-mail) Guidelines for posting to the lists: Established 11 October 2000 EMAIL SUBJECT LINES: COUNTY,YEAR,SURNAME NO FLAMING or you will be unsubbed without notice. By this I mean not only being rude or mean to each other but there will be NO and I do mean NO debating here about the Census Projects. This list is for everyone who wants to research. NO General requests such as "all Smiths in all counties" Be specific, Name the County, Family you are looking for and also the year. Try to supply as much info as possible. LIMIT your requests to ONE PER CENSUS YEAR and SURNAME My Mama taught me that Thank you and Please are always nice too :) A few people have emailed me asking how to sign up for the new lists and what to do. ----------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 1. All lists are XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D-request@rootsweb.com The XX is to be removed and the two letter abbreviation for the state you are looking in added in its place. Examples: MI-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com CA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com IL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com 2. So, send an email to the one of your choice (make sure to have the state). Put NOTHING in the subject line. In the body of the email write only: subscribe Then send it on :) 3. POSTING to the new census lists: A. Send it to XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com (supply the two letter state code for the XX again) B: Subject line MUST have the following: County/Year/Surname Example: Saginaw/1850/Smith C: In the body of the email: List whom you are looking for. Supply as much information as you can. Birthplace, ages, occupation, etc. D: Mail it on! That's it folks :) I hope that helped. I have put the list of states and two letter codes below for you. AL Alabama AK Alaska AZ Arizona AR Arkansas CA California CO Colorado CT Connecticut DC District Of Columbia DE Delaware FL Florida GA Georgia HI Hawaii ID Idaho IL Illinois IN Indiana IA Iowa KS Kansas KY Kentucky LA Louisiana ME Maine MD Maryland MA Massachusetts MI Michigan MN Minnesota MS Mississippi MO Missouri MT Montana NE Nebraska NV Nevada NH New Hampshire NJ New Jersey NM New Mexico NY New York NC North Carolina ND North Dakota OH Ohio OK Oklahoma OR Oregon PA Pennsylvania RI Rhode Island SC South Carolina SD South Dakota TN Tennessee TX Texas UT Utah VT Vermont VA Virginia WA Washington (state) WV West Virginia WI Wisconsin WY Wyoming

----- Original Message ----- From: Peggy Mayfield <peglog@swbell.net> To: <MOJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 11:18 AM Subject: [MOJEFFER] DAVIS and CLARK > Posted on: Jefferson County Queries > Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Mo/Jefferson/330 > > Surname: Davis, Clark, Lucas, Pruitt, Wilson > ------------------------- > > Looking for information on John DAVIS (abt 1804-1869) and his wife Margaret > CLARK (abt 1811-1868). Margaret was born in Kentucky and John in Missouri. > They were marrierd in 1827 probably in Jefferson County, MO, and had six > children: Matilda, Love, William, Silas, Mary, and Hettie. Some of the > children, if not all, were born in Jefferson County. > JOHN DAVIS / BIRTH: 1800, Missouri DEATH: 1869, Jefferson Co, MO. MARGARET CLARK / BIRTH: 1805, Missouri DEATH: UNKNOWN, Jefferson Co, MO MARRIAGE: 28 Jun 1827, Jefferson Co, MO Child WILLIAM CLARK DAVIS / BIRTH: 16 Apr 1837, Missouri DEATH: 11 Oct 1895, Jefferson Co, MO http://home.earthlink.net/~mpdavis/gen/d0001/g0000018.htm#I064 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- Desoto Joe/The Record Man

----- Original Message ----- From: Arthur J. Burch <aburch@isoc.net> To: <MOJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 9:21 PM Subject: [MOJEFFER] FUCHS Ancestors in Jefferson Co. > Searching for information about the family of Conrad and Philippine > (?) (SCHWARZTRAUBER) FUCHS. Conrad (age 26) and Phillipine (age 22) > are first found in the 1860 Federal Census for Mascoutah, St. Clair > Co., IL. I then find Conrad (age 39) and Philipine (age 31) in the > 1870 Census for Belleville, St. Clair Co. with children, Louise (age > 9), Henry (age 4), and Franz (age 2). Conrad and Phillipine are both > shown as being from Bavaria, and Conrad as a blacksmith. > > I've now found records from St. Paul United Church of Christ, in > Belleville IL, that Anna Maria FUCHS was born Jan 4, 1871 to Conrad > and Phillipine. Anna Marie FUCHS was my grandmother, and our family > has searched for many years to learn the identity of her parents. > When Anna (Annie) married our grandfather, Enoch Arden BURCH, in 1886, > in St. Louis MO, they both stated that they were living in Jefferson > Co. MO, and that all parents were deceased. > > I've been unable to find any of these names on 1880 Census Records for > either IL or MO. I'm wondering whether any State Census' was taken in > MO for the period 1870-1895, or whether any Jefferson County > Directories exist for these years. Enoch and "Annie" (FUCHS) BURCH > are known to have lived in Sulphur Springs and Merrimac, Jefferson Co. > > This has been my major "brick wall" for years. If anyone recognizes > any of these names, I would greatly appreciate any information. > Thanks for any info (or clues). > > Art Burch > Try here: Fuchs Family Genealogy Forum http://genforum.genealogy.com/fuchs/ Any relation? FUCHS Family History Report http://members.aol.com/mjrdn23230/FH_TOC.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- Anton's second marriage was to Magdelena Fuchs on July 28, 1863 (Record No. 723) about six months after the death of Christina. An obituary for Magdelena says that she was born June 14, 1831 to Conrad Fuchs and that she died January 15, 1917 -- the oldest woman in Stookey Township and survived by 28 grandchildren and 4 great grandchildren. She had two sisters Elizabeth Holdner of St. Louis and Catherine Frisch of Red Bud and was buried from St. Mary's Parish into Greenmount Cemetery in Belleville, Illinois. http://www.itcs.uiuc.edu/users/beaumont/HTML/EHRSTEIN.HTM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- patricianeedham@sprintmail.com I am tracing the EDWARD CARR family history and would like to contact descendants of my great grandfather, Edward Carr, b. 1837 in Ireland, m. Jane Devlin, came to America 1853, lived in Moundsville and Weeling, West Virginia. d. 1906. Lived short time in Philadelphia as, first child, Alice, was born there ca. 1861. Children of Edward and Jane Carr: Alic (Smith), Jennie (Quigley), Mary (Magers), Anna Louise (Fuchs), Joseph, Emma, Edward and John. Patricia Needham PatC9@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ St. Mary's of Lourdes Germantown Hills, IL The first marriage solemnized was that of Carl L. Fuchs and Anna Mary Eckstein on October 13, 1855. http://www.missionnet.com/catholic/lourdes/history/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- Desoto Joe/The Record Man

Searching for information about the family of Conrad and Philippine (?) (SCHWARZTRAUBER) FUCHS. Conrad (age 26) and Phillipine (age 22) are first found in the 1860 Federal Census for Mascoutah, St. Clair Co., IL. I then find Conrad (age 39) and Philipine (age 31) in the 1870 Census for Belleville, St. Clair Co. with children, Louise (age 9), Henry (age 4), and Franz (age 2). Conrad and Phillipine are both shown as being from Bavaria, and Conrad as a blacksmith. I've now found records from St. Paul United Church of Christ, in Belleville IL, that Anna Maria FUCHS was born Jan 4, 1871 to Conrad and Phillipine. Anna Marie FUCHS was my grandmother, and our family has searched for many years to learn the identity of her parents. When Anna (Annie) married our grandfather, Enoch Arden BURCH, in 1886, in St. Louis MO, they both stated that they were living in Jefferson Co. MO, and that all parents were deceased. I've been unable to find any of these names on 1880 Census Records for either IL or MO. I'm wondering whether any State Census' was taken in MO for the period 1870-1895, or whether any Jefferson County Directories exist for these years. Enoch and "Annie" (FUCHS) BURCH are known to have lived in Sulphur Springs and Merrimac, Jefferson Co. This has been my major "brick wall" for years. If anyone recognizes any of these names, I would greatly appreciate any information. Thanks for any info (or clues). Art Burch

Posted on: Jefferson County Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Mo/Jefferson/330 Surname: Davis, Clark, Lucas, Pruitt, Wilson ------------------------- Looking for information on John DAVIS (abt 1804-1869) and his wife Margaret CLARK (abt 1811-1868). Margaret was born in Kentucky and John in Missouri. They were marrierd in 1827 probably in Jefferson County, MO, and had six children: Matilda, Love, William, Silas, Mary, and Hettie. Some of the children, if not all, were born in Jefferson County.

Posted on: Jefferson County Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Mo/Jefferson/329 Surname: Knox, Scaggs ------------------------- I'm looking for any info on my GGrandmother Harriet Rachel Knox of St. Francois co.MO. She was married to Thomas Stephen Skaggs(b.1858) in Mineral Point, MO on May 4, 1880. Harriet Knox was born in Ste. Gen co.,MO on 1-28-1864 and died in St. Louis, MO on 2-18-1937. Thomas and Stephen had 7 children, Mary Elizabeth(my GGrandmother), Ethel, Nellie, Lillie, Thomas William, James Arthur, and Robert. I absolutely no nothing of Harriet's ancestry. Her obituary mentioned no parents or siblings. Thanx for any help. Mike Bauman macbonpc@earthlink.net Surnames: HUBBARD, SCAGGS, KNOX, DIX, BAUMAN, NAEGER, WINES

I'm looking for any info on my GGrandmother Harriet Rachel Knox of St. Francois co.MO. She was married to Thomas Stephen Skaggs(b.1858) in Mineral Point, MO on May 4, 1880. Harriet Knox was born in Ste. Gen co.,MO on 1-28-1864 and died in St. Louis, MO on 2-18-1937. Thomas and Stephen had 7 children, Mary Elizabeth(my GGrandmother), Ethel, Nellie, Lillie, Thomas William, James Arthur, and Robert. I absolutely no nothing of Harriet's ancestry. Her obituary mentioned no parents or siblings. Thanx for any help. Mike Bauman macbonpc@earthlink.net Surnames: HUBBARD, SCAGGS, KNOX, DIX, BAUMAN, NAEGER, WINES

----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Bauman <macbonpc@earthlink.net> To: <MOJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 1:52 AM Subject: [MOJEFFER] Harriet Rachel Knox > I'm looking for any info on my GGrandmother Harriet Rachel Knox of St. Francois co.MO. She was married to Thomas Stephen Skaggs(b.1858) in Mineral Point, MO on May 4, 1880. Harriet Knox was born in Ste. Gen co.,MO on 1-28-1864 and died in St. Louis, MO on 2-18-1937. > Thomas and Stephen had 7 children, Mary Elizabeth(my GGrandmother), Ethel, Nellie, Lillie, Thomas William, James Arthur, and Robert. > I absolutely no nothing of Harriet's ancestry. Her obituary mentioned no parents or siblings. > Thanx for any help. > Mike Bauman > macbonpc@earthlink.net > Surnames: HUBBARD, SCAGGS, KNOX, DIX, BAUMAN, NAEGER, WINES > Try asking here: Knox Family Genealogy Forum http://genforum.genealogy.com/knox/ Desoto Joe/The Record Man

Hi, I believe that Jonas YATES of Jefferson Co.,MO is a brother to my Charles YATES, born ca, 1792 in KY of Washington & Jefferson Counties, MO. MY line is through Charles 1792/John Jonas 1826/Susan 1856/Leona 1879. Mary Clarissa YATES, d/o Jonas, married Elias YATES, s/o Charles & Samuel YATES, s/o Jonas, married Lucinda YATES, d/o Charles. The COULTER & MYRICK surnames do not appear in my records of these families, so I'd like to exchange data. Barbara Anne

----- Original Message ----- From: C Pinkston <cpnkstn@misn.com> To: <MOJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [MOJEFFER] cemetary damage > One thing that cemetaries seem to be going to is the flat stones. My > mother-in-law just passed away last week and we were told that the cemetary > (Three-Rivers in St. Francois County) would only accept flat stones to cut down > on vandalism (sp?) and damage from caretakers. While I think this might be a > small step in the right direction I sure do hate to see all those older upright > stones become destroyed and eventually disappear. > > Connie > At Rose Lawn Memorial Gardens in Crystal City, all the stones are flat. This makes it easier to maintain. (As long as their cutting deck is not too low) & Chapel Hill Memorial Gardens in Cedar Hill has almost the same arraignment. The new Peaceful Ridge in De Soto, allows vertical monuments still. The new flat markers are presented nice, but you have no originality when they all become the same. The older first flat markers had a vinyl coating or rubber of some sort & I have seen them pop off of the corners & shrivel up from heat, making them unreadable. Looking for some relative in a sea of flat markers is trying on the nerves also. It is easy to overlook them because they all look the same. Depending on the grass that is seeded in the cemetery, some flat markers get completely covered up, even when the place is cut. To each their own, but I like the variety of the vertical stones. Desoto Joe/The Record Man

Cemeteries with flat stones may be easier to maintain, but they're boring! I like a cemetery with all different shapes and sizes of stones. Also, I hate to try to find a grave in a cemetery with all flat stones. You have to walk the entire cemetery to find what you're looking for, whereas with the upright stones you can stand in one spot and, if you're lucky, spot the grave you're looking for in no time at all. Also, the problem I've seen with the flat stones is that many times they eventually sink into the ground and eventually get buried. When I was at Woodlawn Cemetery at DeSoto awhile back looking for one particular grave, I uncovered quite a few stones with my trusty garden spade as I was walking around that had nearly been swallowed up by the earth. I don't think that the cemeteries should allow this to happen, but they do. Preserving the appearance of the stones should be part of the maintenance of the cemetery, however, all most cemeteries are concerned with is cutting the grass and little else. B, Warner mailto:bkwofc@i1.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "C Pinkston" <cpnkstn@misn.com> To: <MOJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [MOJEFFER] cemetary damage > One thing that cemetaries seem to be going to is the flat stones. My > mother-in-law just passed away last week and we were told that the cemetary > (Three-Rivers in St. Francois County) would only accept flat stones to cut down > on vandalism (sp?) and damage from caretakers. While I think this might be a > small step in the right direction I sure do hate to see all those older upright > stones become destroyed and eventually disappear. > > Connie > > Desoto Joe wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Springwl96@aol.com> > > To: <MOJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 12:29 PM > > Subject: [MOJEFFER] cemetary damage > > > > > does anyone know any of the board members of the pilgrim's rest cemetery > > at > > > ware, MO? i was recently there and the stones are being damaged > > apparently > > > by mowers. no repairs are being made when these damages occur. during > > the > > > past year, my gr. grandfather's' stone has been hit, it appears > > repeatedly, > > > and the last letter of the last name is almost unrecognizable. i have > > many > > > other cousins with ancestors buried there and we are all extremely > > distressed > > > over the condition of the cemetery so if anyone has names and addresses > > of > > > the board members please e-mail me privately > > > > > > Deborah Bass > > > > > > > You bring up a very good point. I have noticed this at other cemeteries as > > well. The real tragedy is the headstones that have beautiful oval pictures > > of the interred. I have seen one destroyed by what had to be a flying rock > > from mowers. The problem seems to be, that they wait until there is a huge > > amount of grass that needs to be cut, then objects cannot be seen to avoid > > them. > > > > It just depends on how much these perpetual care cemeteries care about > > preserving the past. Some do outstanding work, while others? > > > > Desoto Joe/The Record Man > > > > ==== MOJEFFER Mailing List ==== > > REMINDER: This list is for Jefferson COUNTY and not > > our state capitol of Jefferson CITY. If you are looking > > for Jefferson CITY, it is located in Cole County. > > > ==== MOJEFFER Mailing List ==== > There is no formal NOMAIL mode for the MOJEFFER list. If you > plan to be away for vacation or business for an extended period > of time, please unsubscribe and then resubscribe on your return. >

One thing that cemetaries seem to be going to is the flat stones. My mother-in-law just passed away last week and we were told that the cemetary (Three-Rivers in St. Francois County) would only accept flat stones to cut down on vandalism (sp?) and damage from caretakers. While I think this might be a small step in the right direction I sure do hate to see all those older upright stones become destroyed and eventually disappear. Connie Desoto Joe wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Springwl96@aol.com> > To: <MOJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 12:29 PM > Subject: [MOJEFFER] cemetary damage > > > does anyone know any of the board members of the pilgrim's rest cemetery > at > > ware, MO? i was recently there and the stones are being damaged > apparently > > by mowers. no repairs are being made when these damages occur. during > the > > past year, my gr. grandfather's' stone has been hit, it appears > repeatedly, > > and the last letter of the last name is almost unrecognizable. i have > many > > other cousins with ancestors buried there and we are all extremely > distressed > > over the condition of the cemetery so if anyone has names and addresses > of > > the board members please e-mail me privately > > > > Deborah Bass > > > > You bring up a very good point. I have noticed this at other cemeteries as > well. The real tragedy is the headstones that have beautiful oval pictures > of the interred. I have seen one destroyed by what had to be a flying rock > from mowers. The problem seems to be, that they wait until there is a huge > amount of grass that needs to be cut, then objects cannot be seen to avoid > them. > > It just depends on how much these perpetual care cemeteries care about > preserving the past. Some do outstanding work, while others? > > Desoto Joe/The Record Man > > ==== MOJEFFER Mailing List ==== > REMINDER: This list is for Jefferson COUNTY and not > our state capitol of Jefferson CITY. If you are looking > for Jefferson CITY, it is located in Cole County.

I received a letter stating that we should be thankful to those who volunteer to cut grass in certain cemeteries. I believe everyone would agree that it is appreciated that there are those who will volunteer to do this. Our family would gather every Memorial weekend & clean up the cemetery. Not just our relative's plots, but everything surrounding them. When my grandfather passed away, it became less of a group project & now, we go individually, when we can. My turn was in June. I responded to the original post, saying that this is a problem in other cemeteries, & it is. Some are well maintained & have little damage. Gamel Cemetery in Festus is one that is taken well care of, with little damage occurring to the stones. (many of my relatives are there) The letter sent to me stated that we all should cut volunteers slack, because they at least do it. I agree there, but if you are going to volunteer to do anything, you should strive to do it well. The boy scouts started cleaning off the Sunnyside Cemetery & have done an excellent job so far. I'm not sure what troop & if they have plans to continue with this project. If you pay to have your relatives graves kept nice & it is not to your satisfaction, then I would certainly seek to make changes. If they are maintained by volunteers, then try to get involved, so others will follow by your example. I was in a cemetery today that has been neglected for quite sometime & the thought that kept running through my mind was, how can so many people be buried here & no one seem to care about their condition. On a positive note, these cemeteries have less vandalism & the stones seem to be better preserved with the foliage protecting them from the elements. Anyway, I was not trying to put anyone down with the earlier post. Anyone who attempts to protect our history by maintaining a cemetery is ok in my book. Desoto Joe/The Record Man

Barbara, I received your information today, thank you. I will keep my eyes open for Elias Yates grave. I did come across what I believe is the Yates cemetery. It is located off of Country Club Road, just off of Highway 21. Vandals have been destroying the stones. I was able to find these people buried there. Jonas Yates / April 20th, 1799 - November 19th, 1868. Sarah Jane Baldwin / January 31st, 1832 - March 7th, 1900. Frank Baldwin / March 4th, 1826 - May 4th, 1902. Chas. T. Yates / 1880 - 1912. Theresa Yates / 1884 - 1904. There may be more buried here, because there appears to be stone markers, but how many is unknown to me. They were building a subdivision & ran into this site, they had to stop expanding in this direction because it is unknown how many are here. Vandals have been using the area as a party spot. I uprighted the stones that were tipped over, but until something is done to protect the remaining stones, it will only be a short time & they will be gone. Desoto Joe/The Record Man

Posted on: Jefferson County Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Mo/Jefferson/328 Surname: Goza, Keith, Wilkson ------------------------- I am interested in Elizabeth Keith 1839-1879 marr Hugh M Goza Jan 11, 1856 Jefferson Co MO had a son John (b) 1858 MO and dau Emma Minerva (B)1864. Elizabeth Keith Goza marr Geo Lawson Armstrong Jul 25, 1869, Jefferson Co MO and had son Sidney L (B)1872. Elizabeth had a brother Nicholas Keith and possibly one named William Keith. There is a Nicholas Keith on the 1850 census Jefferson Co MO in household of Jonathan Smith, p 463, Family 863. I rec'd this census info from Larry Keith on genforum.genealogy.com this date. Could this James Keith (Keath) be the widower father of Elizabeth 11 and Nicholas 16 on the 1850 census? This may tie the Jonathan Smith family to the Goza and Wilkson families. It looks like the Hugh Goza, age 20, on the 1850 census is Sarah Goza's son. Any information on Elizabeth Keith and her parents?

----- Original Message ----- From: <Springwl96@aol.com> To: <MOJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 12:29 PM Subject: [MOJEFFER] cemetary damage > does anyone know any of the board members of the pilgrim's rest cemetery at > ware, MO? i was recently there and the stones are being damaged apparently > by mowers. no repairs are being made when these damages occur. during the > past year, my gr. grandfather's' stone has been hit, it appears repeatedly, > and the last letter of the last name is almost unrecognizable. i have many > other cousins with ancestors buried there and we are all extremely distressed > over the condition of the cemetery so if anyone has names and addresses of > the board members please e-mail me privately > > Deborah Bass > You bring up a very good point. I have noticed this at other cemeteries as well. The real tragedy is the headstones that have beautiful oval pictures of the interred. I have seen one destroyed by what had to be a flying rock from mowers. The problem seems to be, that they wait until there is a huge amount of grass that needs to be cut, then objects cannot be seen to avoid them. It just depends on how much these perpetual care cemeteries care about preserving the past. Some do outstanding work, while others? Desoto Joe/The Record Man