Seems I havent seen any e-mail on this list . Can we have a roll call ? researching -- Richardson , Martin , Tinker , Herrin

Helps to have dates. Beth Wilson Crystelbel@aol.com wrote: > Seems I havent seen any e-mail on this list . Can we have a roll call ? > researching -- Richardson , Martin , Tinker , Herrin > > ==== MOJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Please remember that RESPECT and COURTESY is a must. If you have > a disagreement with another subscriber, either email them privately > or contact the list manager at pfrazer@flash.net. > DO NOT post grievances to the list! Let's keep it friendly!

Please join us at the next meeting of the Jefferson County Genealogical Society on Saturday, January 20, 2001, for a talk by Dan Vornberg on Tracing your Jefferson County Ancestors Back to Germany. The regular meeting starts at 9:30 am and the talk will begin about 10:15 am and finish about 11:30 am. We hope to have a follow-up session later in the year continuing on this subject. Our meetings are held at the High Ridge branch of the Jefferson County Library, 3033 High Ridge Boulevard, High Ridge MO. Everyone is welcome and the talk is free. If you can attend, please call 314/892-2670 to let us know how many will be attending. Thanks Barb Diehl President JCGS

The Volume of Jefferson County, Missouri Commissions and Marriages is now completely abstracted with a full name index. It includes 241 marriages from 1826 - 1838 Jefferson County all marriages from 1826-1838 are abstracted also African-American marriages from 1866-1878 are abstracted -- also -- also -- also -- also -- for Crawford County all marriages from 1828-1871 are abstracted and for St. Francois County all marriages from 1813-1887 are abstracted and for Washington County all marriages from 1815-1937 are abstracted also African-American marriages from 1865-1875 are abstracted JUST CLICK ON http://vienici.com/abmomarr.html to bring you to a single page of links for the abstract indexes. The indexes have links to the abstract pages. You can also Search the the site for surnames. Keep your eye on the site. New marriages are being abstracted continually. Jefferson County marriages from 1838-1849 will begin appearing on the site shortly.

Posted on: Jefferson County Obituaries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Mo/JeffersonObits/224 Surname: Wooldridge, Vandiver, Ringer, Fricke ------------------------- Cora Wooldridge Dies Today AT 93 ( May 23, 1973) Cora May Wooldridge, 93, died early today at the home of her son-in-law and daughter , Ernst and Jewel Fricke, Route 2, Festus, with whom she resided. Mrs. Wooldridge, born near Bonne Terre( St. Francois ); was the daughter of the late William Vandiver and Martha ( nee Ringer). She was preceded in death by her husband, Zeno, two sons , Orville and William, two daughters Ruby and Helen. Suvivors in addition to Mr. and Mrs. Fricke are nine grandchildren and nine great- grandchildren. Visatation is after 7 tonight at Vinyard Funeral Home, Festus. Services will be Friday at 2 p.m. at First Baptist Church. Crystal City, burial in Roselawn Memorial Garden.

As before please summit this article to any web site so as others may be helped. Two More County Adoptions Found While running deeds on cemetery locations at the Recorder of Deeds Office at the Jefferson County Courthouse I came upon two more adoption “deeds”. First, recorded in book 9 at page 356, “… Charles F. Lee of Jefferson County (adopts)… and Luella Maria Hughes, an infant girl of the same place (Jefferson County) daughter of Thomas Hughes and his deceased wife, and about the age of seventeen (Thomas)…”, standard “deed” of adoption. The second, on May 5th, 1907, recorded in book 63 at page 49, “…Eliza Ehlers and John Ehlers her husband of the County of Jefferson (adopt Susan) and John B. Gamache and Cora E. Gamache his wife of Jefferson County, parents by adoption of Susan Ruth Sutton, a minor, see deed of adoption at Recorder’s Office, City of St. Louis on July 25 1905, in book 1862 at page 177, also March 10th, 1906 in book 1895 at page 473…” What I believe is happening here, as I don’t have access to the St. Louis City records, is Eliza & John Ehlers are adopting a child that was adopted twice before, first recorded in book 1862 second recorded in book 1895. This also is a standard “deed” of adoption and the document was recorded, as any standard “deed” for land would be. It states that “…for $1.00 and the love and….”. If I am correct this child may have been a problem child, being adopted three times within a 22 month period. It appears like what would be done with a foster child of today. Herein lies another problem for genealogical researchers, if I am correct and the above was adopted twice, then her name my have been changed. Thus her “real” name may not be “Sutton” but have been changed to that by the first adoptive parent. You would have to look at the two previously denoted deeds. And finally be aware that any “Susan Ruth” you are looking for may not in fact be a “Gamache”. Copyright © 2000 Dave Hallemann This article may be distributed in any form as long as there no fee is charged, and the author is given credit

I got a copy of my ancestors' certificate through the Missouri Archives. It was a Xerox copy not a real certificate, but it was only $.50, as I recall. -Jo

(I already sent this information, but, I think I accidentally sent it only to cindyh instead of the whole list as I had intended. At least, I didn't get it back myself as a list subscriber. So, if you've seen this already, ignore.) In case you haven't made a request to the Missouri State Archives in a while, they have a new procedure and rate schedule. I do not think they are do any mailings on this, only letting people know as they make new requests. Basically, if you are out-of-state they now charge $15.00 per "letter". All patrons can send four letters per year with four requests on each (this is from memory). The in-state researchers pays only for copies and out-of-state for copies and the research fee. So, if anyone on the list from Missouri doesn't use the archives service and want to 'loan me' their name and address four times a year, please let me know. Ha Ha. I spend all of my free money (as if there was such a thing with two kids in day care at $140/week) on death certificates, books, on-line subscriptions, etc., I spend way too much as is!! I guess driving to Jefferson City and getting to look at anything I want without a long wait is looking more attractive. Anyone in that area want to babysit a very laid-back 4 year old and a high-maintenance 20 month-old? I didn't think so ; ) Marianne in Mountain Home, Arkansas Josweeney@aol .com To: MOJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com cc: 01/11/01 Subject: [MOJEFFER] Marriage certificates 03:34 PM I got a copy of my ancestors' certificate through the Missouri Archives. It was a Xerox copy not a real certificate, but it was only $.50, as I recall. -Jo ==== MOJEFFER Mailing List ==== All MOJEFFER list postings are archived. To search the archives, go to: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter MOJEFFER-L.

If you have access to a Family History Center, marriage records are available from 1825-1951 and marriage certificates from 1836-1948. The certificates have only recently been microfilmed. Rick Saunders http://genealogypro.com/fsaunders.html

You can get the marriage records yourself off of LDS microfilm: Marriage records, 1825-1951; indexes, 1825-1949 Authors: Jefferson County (Missouri). Recorder of Deeds (Main Author) Microreproduction of manuscripts housed at the Jefferson County Courthouse, Hillsboro, Missouri. Indexes are at the beginning of most volumes. Marriage certificates are listed in alphabetical order. Index to marriage records 1825-1849 FHL US/CAN Film 966084 Item 2 Index to marriage records v. 8-18 1840-1949 FHL US/CAN Film 2031808 Items 1-7 Commissions and marriages 1826-1838 FHL US/CAN Film 966084 Item 3 Colored marriages 1867-1879 FHL US/CAN Film 966084 Item 1 Marriage records 1838-1849 FHL US/CAN Film 966084 Item 4 1849-1871 FHL US/CAN Film 966085 Item 1 v. 1, 1871-1881 FHL US/CAN Film 966086 Item 1 Marriage license records v. 1 1881-1885 FHL US/CAN Film 966085 Item 2 v. 2, 1885-1890 FHL US/CAN Film 966086 Item 2 Marriage certificates 1836-1882 A-N 1882 FHL US/CAN Film 2031851 O-Z, 1882 1883-1886 A-P 1887 VAULT US/CAN Film 2031852 Mabry Benson

If you visit the county clerk's web page (http://www.jeffcomo.org/clerk/serv/gen.html), you'll notice that all queries for genealogical research are referred to the state archives (http://mosl.sos.state.mo.us/rec-man/arch.html). However, if you wish to walk into the court house, you may be able to see the records. The Jefferson County Library, Northwest Branch has those records on microfilm, as well. Cindy -- On Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:14:33 Pat Hammons wrote: >Could someone on the list please tell the fee for a copy of a marriage >license and also for a copy of a birth record from the jefferson County >Courthouse. These records would have been from 1881 and 1882 > >thank you > >Pat > > >==== MOJEFFER Mailing List ==== >The townships of Jefferson County in the late 1880s: Big River, >Central, Joachim, Meramec, Plattin, Rock, and Valle. The >county seat, Hillsboro, is located in Central Township. > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com

Don't know why I hadn't thought of that before.... does the Jefferson Co Courthouse have the marriage certificates from the 1880s? Would love to have a copy of my grandparents'! Do we just write to the County Clerk's office? What information would we need to give (I think we have the right date for their marriage), and, of course, what would be the fee? TIA! Jo Ann Pierce - Mothershead Family Ties http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jcat2/

Posted on: Jefferson County Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Mo/Jefferson/407 Surname: mcmeins ------------------------- please change my email, from iwojimamac@aol.com to iwojimamac@juno.com. thanks

Could someone on the list please tell the fee for a copy of a marriage license and also for a copy of a birth record from the jefferson County Courthouse. These records would have been from 1881 and 1882 thank you Pat

Posted on: Jefferson County Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Mo/Jefferson/406 Surname: William G Brown ------------------------- William G. Brown was born in Jefferson Co. on May 8,1819. His family later moved to New Orleans, Lousiana. As a young man he worked on the boats on the Mississippi and later married Clarrisa Bartley and had sever children.

I have an ancestor who was an active school teacher between 1870-1880 in Jefferson Co. She lived in Plattin Township 1870-1880. Does anyone know where I can search to find records to document this fact? Any information greatly appreciated. Her name was Helen M. WHITNEY. Thank you, Jerry Forman Berkeley, CA

Posted on: Jefferson County Obituaries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Mo/JeffersonObits/217 Surname: Rogers, Everett ------------------------- Willis Rogers, one of the oldest residents of Rock township, died last Saturday, after months of intense suffering from a cancer under his arm, which gradually ate into his vitals, in spite of all that could to done to arrest its progress. Mr. Rogers will be remembered by many as one of Nature's noblemen. [Note: Willis Rogers was born in Jefferson Cnty., Mo. on 15 Feb 1823 & died near Antonia, Mo. on 3 Dec 1881. He married Nancy Everett on 30 May 1843. Children were Norman Fidelo, William Thornton, James Edward, Willis Warren, Lucy Perlina, Elizabeth Caroline, Cornelius W. and John Mathias.]

Posted on: Jefferson County Obituaries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Mo/JeffersonObits/216 Surname: Kochner, Kassel, Heiligtag ------------------------- Gladys P. Kochner, 88, of Arnold died March 1, 1998, in St. Louis. Mrs. Kochner had been a farmer and a homemaker. Born on March 31, 1909, in Imperial, she was the daughter of the late Jacob and Sophie ( Kassel) Kuechenmeister. [ note: Sophie was the daughter of Ernest Kassel & Maria Sophia Heiligtag] She was preceded in death by her husband , Joseph Kochner, and a brother, William Kuechenmeister. She is survived by a sister, Leona Kuechenmeister. Funeral services were March 5 at St. Paul's Lutheran Church, officiated by the Rev. Russell Koen. Burial was in Shepherd Hills Cemetery in Barnhart. Memorials may be made to St. Paul's Lutheran Church. Arrangements were under the direction of Heiligtag Funeral Home in Arnold.

Where would I send for a marriage application/record of a Marriage that took place in Jefferson County in May of 1881 Thanks Searching Jefferson County for Stall/Porter surnames

Is the town of PLATTIN still in existence today? My ancestors lived there in 1870 and 1880. Thanks, Jerry Forman