Posted on: Jefferson County Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/USA/Mo/Jefferson/434 Surname: Johannpeter, Eckelman, Koenig, Uhlmansiek ------------------------- Looking for ancesters of Mathilda Louise Johannpeter; nee Uhlmansiek. Have many connecting names to share.

Go to: http://maps.expedia.com/pub/agent.dll?qscr=mmfn and enter Blasheim under Europe. Rick Saunders http://genealogypro.com/fsaunders.html

Hi Andy, There's a very helpful site for locating towns at http://www.kartenmeister.com Enter the town name, and put an * at the end of it, as "Blasheim*" If that doesn't find it for you, then try part of the word, or just the beginning. There are instructions on the site about how to search. Good luck! Mona On Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:46:05 -0600 "BAKincaid" <lastar@ametro.net> writes: > CAN ANY ONE HELP, PLEASE!!! > > Trying to locate the following town, BLASHEIM, WESTFALEN, PREUSSEN > > Westfalen - Westphalia > > Preussen - Prussia?? > > Blasheim - ?? > > andy > > > ==== MOJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Please remember that RESPECT and COURTESY is a must. If you have > a disagreement with another subscriber, either email them privately > or contact the list manager at pfrazer@flash.net. > DO NOT post grievances to the list! Let's keep it friendly! > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

If you do a location search at the familysearch.com catalog you will find what records they have on Jefferson Co. Mo. at the location search type in "Jefferson" part of "Missouri" and that will lead you to the page what tells what records the FHC has on Jeff. Co. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JOETRANS@aol.com> To: <MOJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 6:22 PM Subject: [MOJEFFER] Re: DeSoto MO Cemetery Records at FHC > I checked the Family History Library at familysearch.com for the title and > for the film #1598442 and received a "no record". How do I get to these > records. > > Joe > > > ==== MOJEFFER Mailing List ==== > There is no formal NOMAIL mode for the MOJEFFER list. If you > plan to be away for vacation or business for an extended period > of time, please unsubscribe and then resubscribe on your return. >

CAN ANY ONE HELP, PLEASE!!! Trying to locate the following town, BLASHEIM, WESTFALEN, PREUSSEN Westfalen - Westphalia Preussen - Prussia?? Blasheim - ?? andy

I checked the Family History Library at familysearch.com for the title and for the film #1598442 and received a "no record". How do I get to these records. Joe

By the way, Ingrid, is from Berlin, Germany. Didn't want you to think she was a first-year German student. Marianne marianne_pyeatt@ baxter.com To: MOJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com cc: 02/07/01 12:49 Subject: Re: [MOJEFFER] New PM Cemeteries... Hello list, This is my mom's translation of the german stones. Note the singular/plural and the explanation of Geborene vs. Geboren. One is "born" and the other is "born as" or maiden name. Marianne ----- Forwarded by Marianne Pyeatt/Renal/NA/Baxter on 02/07/01 12:42 PM ----- "Ingrid Cowan" To: <marianne_pyeatt@baxter.com> <iucowan@cswn cc: et.com> Subject: Re: [MOJEFFER] New Cemeteries... 02/07/01 11:15 AM Please respond to "Ingrid Cowan" I am looking at the printouts of what you sent me. Some of the stuff is misspelled for instance "heir ruhen" should be "hier ruhen" meaning here rest...Geb. and Gest. is - like you thought - "geboren" and "gestorben", meaning born and died. If it is one person's grave, it should be hier ruht, if more it should say "hier ruhen." It's the singular and plural of the same verb. On Barbara Hilperthauser, it should read "Geborene" which means "born as" or, as we say, "maiden name"...Isler. It would have been interesting to know what "verse" was on the tombstone! I am certain, I could translate it as well. Good luck with your projects! Love, Mom -----Original Message----- From: marianne_pyeatt@baxter.com <marianne_pyeatt@baxter.com> To: iucowan@cswnet.com <iucowan@cswnet.com> Date: Monday, February 05, 2001 8:52 AM Subject: [MOJEFFER] New Cemeteries... Hello! Can you translate the German from these headstones that someone found in Jefferson County, Mo? I know the "Geb" and "Gest" are born and died, but, if you can tell what the other stuff means for certain - that would be great. What do you suppose the "geborn JSLER" means? Is that her maiden name? Do you have a guess as to where this family might have come to the USA from? Thanks. Hope you are well. Richard and the kids are all home sick today. Love, Marianne ----- Forwarded by Marianne Pyeatt/Renal/NA/Baxter on 02/05/01 08:02 AM ----- "Dave Hallemann" To: MOJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <Sleuth@cat2. cc: com> Subject: [MOJEFFER] New Cemeteries... 02/04/01 06:00 PM _________________ The third and final cemetery was also shown to me by John Sapper. No name found yet. Single 7 foot spike stone with carving on all four sides. Top of monument dismounted and lying along side. Heir Ruhen, Jacob Hilpertshauser, Geb. April 22, 1839, Gest. April 25, 186, Below on the same side, Joseph Bleiker, Geb. Feb. 28, 1806, Gest. Dec. 22, 1876, both on side 1. Side two, Heir Ruht., Die Familie Bleiker. Side three, Heir Ruht, John Hilpertshauser, Geb. Juli 28, 1832, Gest. Oct 6, 1880, and a German verse below. Side four, Heir Ruhen, Barbara Hilpertshauser, geboren JSLER, Geb. Nov. 9, 1799, Gest. Oct. 27, 1875, below on same side, Elias Hilpertshauser, Geb. Juni. 21, 1807, Gest. Nov. 2, 1879. Elias Hilpertshauser, first purchased the ground from the U. S. Government, Bleikers show ownership on the 1876 & 1898 Atlas'. Can anyone translate the German and email it to me. ____________________________________________________ Listed in our records a Vineyard Cemetery, one monument, shown to me by Albert Fults; Lucinda, wife of, Wm. Vineyard, Born July 30, 1818, Died Aug 22, 1876, "Rest in Peace", footstone LV, Information from property owner, there were three other stones William Vineyard b. 1821, Sarah Vineyard b. 1842, Steven Vineyard b. 1846. Family plot, extremely overgrown, about 20x20 in size. _______________________________________________________ Last, I am currently working on cemetery locations for the Historical Society. If you know the location of a cemetery in Jefferson County please email me so I can record its location and update our records. Thanks! Dave Hallemann Sleuth@cat2.com ==== MOJEFFER Mailing List ==== The townships of Jefferson County in the late 1880s: Big River, Central, Joachim, Meramec, Plattin, Rock, and Valle. The county seat, Hillsboro, is located in Central Township. ==== MOJEFFER Mailing List ==== Please visit the Jefferson County MOGenWeb at http://www.rootsweb.com/~mojeffer/index.html - Some of your questions may have an answer there!

Hello list, This is my mom's translation of the german stones. Note the singular/plural and the explanation of Geborene vs. Geboren. One is "born" and the other is "born as" or maiden name. Marianne ----- Forwarded by Marianne Pyeatt/Renal/NA/Baxter on 02/07/01 12:42 PM ----- "Ingrid Cowan" To: <marianne_pyeatt@baxter.com> <iucowan@cswn cc: et.com> Subject: Re: [MOJEFFER] New Cemeteries... 02/07/01 11:15 AM Please respond to "Ingrid Cowan" I am looking at the printouts of what you sent me. Some of the stuff is misspelled for instance "heir ruhen" should be "hier ruhen" meaning here rest...Geb. and Gest. is - like you thought - "geboren" and "gestorben", meaning born and died. If it is one person's grave, it should be hier ruht, if more it should say "hier ruhen." It's the singular and plural of the same verb. On Barbara Hilperthauser, it should read "Geborene" which means "born as" or, as we say, "maiden name"...Isler. It would have been interesting to know what "verse" was on the tombstone! I am certain, I could translate it as well. Good luck with your projects! Love, Mom -----Original Message----- From: marianne_pyeatt@baxter.com <marianne_pyeatt@baxter.com> To: iucowan@cswnet.com <iucowan@cswnet.com> Date: Monday, February 05, 2001 8:52 AM Subject: [MOJEFFER] New Cemeteries... Hello! Can you translate the German from these headstones that someone found in Jefferson County, Mo? I know the "Geb" and "Gest" are born and died, but, if you can tell what the other stuff means for certain - that would be great. What do you suppose the "geborn JSLER" means? Is that her maiden name? Do you have a guess as to where this family might have come to the USA from? Thanks. Hope you are well. Richard and the kids are all home sick today. Love, Marianne ----- Forwarded by Marianne Pyeatt/Renal/NA/Baxter on 02/05/01 08:02 AM ----- "Dave Hallemann" To: MOJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <Sleuth@cat2. cc: com> Subject: [MOJEFFER] New Cemeteries... 02/04/01 06:00 PM _________________ The third and final cemetery was also shown to me by John Sapper. No name found yet. Single 7 foot spike stone with carving on all four sides. Top of monument dismounted and lying along side. Heir Ruhen, Jacob Hilpertshauser, Geb. April 22, 1839, Gest. April 25, 186, Below on the same side, Joseph Bleiker, Geb. Feb. 28, 1806, Gest. Dec. 22, 1876, both on side 1. Side two, Heir Ruht., Die Familie Bleiker. Side three, Heir Ruht, John Hilpertshauser, Geb. Juli 28, 1832, Gest. Oct 6, 1880, and a German verse below. Side four, Heir Ruhen, Barbara Hilpertshauser, geboren JSLER, Geb. Nov. 9, 1799, Gest. Oct. 27, 1875, below on same side, Elias Hilpertshauser, Geb. Juni. 21, 1807, Gest. Nov. 2, 1879. Elias Hilpertshauser, first purchased the ground from the U. S. Government, Bleikers show ownership on the 1876 & 1898 Atlas'. Can anyone translate the German and email it to me. ____________________________________________________ Listed in our records a Vineyard Cemetery, one monument, shown to me by Albert Fults; Lucinda, wife of, Wm. Vineyard, Born July 30, 1818, Died Aug 22, 1876, "Rest in Peace", footstone LV, Information from property owner, there were three other stones William Vineyard b. 1821, Sarah Vineyard b. 1842, Steven Vineyard b. 1846. Family plot, extremely overgrown, about 20x20 in size. _______________________________________________________ Last, I am currently working on cemetery locations for the Historical Society. If you know the location of a cemetery in Jefferson County please email me so I can record its location and update our records. Thanks! Dave Hallemann Sleuth@cat2.com ==== MOJEFFER Mailing List ==== The townships of Jefferson County in the late 1880s: Big River, Central, Joachim, Meramec, Plattin, Rock, and Valle. The county seat, Hillsboro, is located in Central Township.

>There is a film at the Family History Center (#1598442).......The film has all >the family group sheets, correspondence, etc., on many of the families >whose names are mentioned in the recent inquiries, Wideman, Wilson, >Huskey, Vineyard, McKee,McKay,etc. . I don't like to disparage another researcher, but a word of caution is in order. Be VERY careful of her records, which are on FHL microfilms 1598439 through 1584342 and contain information on the LEE, WILLIAMS, LONG, HILDEBRAND, MANION, COOPER, DAVIS, GRAHAM, EOFF, HERRINGTON, WILSON, MOTHERSHEAD, WIDEMAN, McKAY, McKEE and related families. It was her research which over 20 years ago was responsible for much of the misinformation on the WIDEMAN family at that time, and which I occassionally still see pop up. Note that she often wrote her conclusions (which are not always correct) on her photocopies of original documents that are on the microfilm. The biggest caution that may be in order is if you use and/or order copies of original documents from the Jefferson County Court House on any of the families on which she researched. I have photocopies of ORIGINAL documents from the Jefferson County Court House which contain her handwriting, listing relationships which are NOT only NOT part of the document, but NOT correct. If you order copies of any ORIGINAL documents from Jefferson County on any of the above or related families, examine them carefully to be sure that what you are reading is part of the original record, and NOT something which she added to the document. Rick Saunders http://genealogypro.com/fsaunders.html

Dear List There have been many inquiries about Jefferson County cemetery records. There is a film at the Family History Center (#1598442) entitled DeSoto MO Cemetery Records. It is large. At the end are the cemetery records that this lady hand copied. All of her Jefferson Co. research she donated to the Family History Library when she went to a nursing home. The film has all the family group sheets, correspondence, etc., on many of the families whose names are mentioned in the recent inquiries, Wideman, Wilson, Huskey, Vineyard, McKee,McKay,etc. .

Hi. I am looking for Samuel Richardson. He was from Boteourt Co. Va. He was married there in 1820. Would have come to Mo. around 1835 to 1840. If some kind soul could check the 1840 census for me I would appreciate it very much. His wife was Margaret Vineyard. Any records of any kind on him or her would be extremely helpful. Thank you. Mary

Thanks to you kind listers who helped with suggestions for acquiring information on the land records of the John Gamble family. I ordered the films today at my local Family History Center. To Lynne2, my special thanks for the BLM site. Your inquiry about Justice Gamble - he is the son of John Gamble, brother of Joseph Reid Gamble, Archibald Miner Gamble, Elizabeth Gamble McKee, and John Kennedy Gamble, Jr. I have much information on Joseph Reid Gamble which I can share if you will contact me: wgoodwin@isat.com Edna

> any date, First name? Thanks Mary Ann > Looking for info on the naumann's of Jefferson co,mo.Anything will be helpful. > Thanks > D.Naumann > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [MOJEFFER] Luebbers family > Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 20:17:35 EST > From: Randandoll@cs.com > To: MOJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com > Again, a ballpark date would help, Mary Ann > Looking for william and Catherine Whitten Raney Luebbers. They lived and > died in Desoto Missouri.Anything would help.Thanks > D.Naumann

Looking for william and Catherine Whitten Raney Luebbers. They lived and died in Desoto Missouri.Anything would help.Thanks D.Naumann

Looking for info on the naumann's of Jefferson co,mo.Anything will be helpful. Thanks D.Naumann

> > The third and final cemetery was also shown to me by John Sapper. No name > found yet. > > Single 7 foot spike stone with carving on all four sides. Top of monument > dismounted and lying along side. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ I'll give it a shot Dave. Geb (geboren) is short for born & Gest (gestorben) is short for died. > > ( Here resting) Heir Ruhen, Jacob Hilpertshauser, Geb. April 22, 1839, Gest. April 25, 186, > Below on the same side, > Joseph Bleiker, Geb. Feb. 28, 1806, Gest. Dec. 22, 1876, both on side 1. > Side two, Heir Ruht., Die Familie Bleiker. ( Here rests, the family Bleiker) > Side three, Heir Ruht, ( Here rests) John Hilpertshauser, Geb. Juli 28, 1832, Gest. Oct > 6, 1880, and a German verse below. > Side four, Heir Ruhen, (here resting) Barbara Hilpertshauser, geboren (born) JSLER, ( Do not have a clue) Geb. Nov. 9, > 1799, Gest. Oct. 27, 1875, below on same side, > Elias Hilpertshauser, Geb. Juni. 21, 1807, Gest. Nov. 2, 1879. > > Elias Hilpertshauser, first purchased the ground from the U. S. Government, > Bleikers show ownership on the 1876 & 1898 Atlas'. > Can anyone translate the German and email it to me. > Desoto Joe/The Record Man

Does anyone have easy access to the 1830 Jefferson County census? I am looking for any FRY names. Also, in the marriage records for 1829, I see a Catherine Fry but I didn't think she was included in my family of Fry's. Wondering if there were others in Jefferson County around that time. Mine were in Joaquim Twp and she was also. Thx -- Nancy C. Pittman Valley, AZ Genealogy=Where you confuse the dead and irritate the living!

The Volume of Jefferson County, Missouri Commissions and Marriages is now completely abstracted with a full name index. It includes 517 marriages from 1838 - 1849 AND 206 Guardianships Jefferson County all marriages from 1826-1849 are abstracted also African-American marriages from 1866-1878 are abstracted -- also -- also -- also -- also -- for Crawford County all marriages from 1828-1871 are abstracted and for St. Francois County all marriages from 1813-1887 are abstracted and for Washington County all marriages from 1815-1937 are abstracted also African-American marriages from 1865-1875 are abstracted Just click on http://vienici.com/abmomarr.html to bring you to a single page of links for the abstract indexes. The indexes have links to the abstract pages. You can also Search the site for surnames. Keep your eye on the site. New marriages are being abstracted continually. Jefferson County commissions from 1828-1838 will begin appearing on the site shortly. There were skipped earlier and in the event I missed some valuable information, I revisiting the book.

----- Original Message ----- From: Michael/Janet Olive <mbolive@mylink.net> To: <MOJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 11:10 AM Subject: [MOJEFFER] ADDRESS NEEDED > Hi > Someone on this list or Washington County list gave me the phone > number for the > Independent Journal Newspaper. > I have misplace it...could some kind person send it to me again. > Thank > mbolive@mylink.net > Janet > Independent Journal 119 East High Street Potosi, MO 63664 Phone: 573-438-5141 Desoto Joe/The Record Man

I promised the relative not to disclose the location of this grave. It is the only one located there. A pile of stones is nearby & could be the remains of two crypts. It is not big enough to be a foundation of a building. There was no visible markings on any of the stones to indicate it's purpose. Unless it was individual stones to mark graves & someone piled them together. (This is unlikely, because the sizes vary greatly) There may be others buried here, but no stones were found in searching, other than the two compressed piles. Jas. W. (Wilton) Senter / Company D. 2nd Missouri Cavalry. Born in Jefferson County, March 27, 1846. Died January 18, 1910. If you have any further info on this man, please contact me. Desoto Joe/The Record Man