Susan- I have access to the 1900 census through genealogy.com and looked for your names. I found Charles and Nancy in Lawrence County: >From the 1900 Federal Census of Lawrence County, Missouri, Aurora township, Aurora City, district 71, household 184, taken June 12, 1900: Mothershead, Charles; head of household, male, born- Oct 1857, age- 42, married 3 years, bor- Missouri, parents born- Missouri, occupation- farmer, r/w's, rents home, home is a farm --- Mancy; wife, female, born- Sept 1869, age- 30, married 3 years, mother of zero children, born- Missouri, parents born- Missouri, r/w's It looks like I found Thomas Mothershead and Mary in Franklinb, but I have to go to work. I'll try to get that to you later. Rick Waggener

----- Original Message ----- From: <MehdiFakhar@aol.com> To: <MOJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 10:56 AM Subject: [MOJEFFER] George Forbes - Hillsboro Public School 1900-1901 > I wonder if anyone can tell me about George Forbes. This is a loooong shot, > but I have been stuck forever trying to find Rosa Clerc, born 1896, Hillsboro > (still listed with her maiden name in the 1920 census). > > I have a postcard marked Hillsboro, dated Dec 2, 1916, addressed to Rosa > Clerc: > Dear Rosa, > Better have George bring you out Sat. night or meet me at Goldwau (?) at 9:30 > Sun. a.m. > Hope you have had a nice time and that this finds you and yours all well. > Love, Kathleen > > I have no idea who George or Kathleen are. > I have been going back thru things and have noticed George Forbes name (the > long shot is that it is 14-15 years earlier) in a class photo. > Many of the children's last names are the same as those families I am still > trying to find that lived in the surrounding area of the Clerc's Poultry Farm > (it makes sense that they would all go to school together, so I thought maybe > it would make sense that she married one of them...) > > Thanks for any leads! Kay-Florida > > The Goldwau (?) may be Goldman. Just north of Hillsboro. Desoto Joe/The Record Man

Jim- I thought I might also check the 1900 census, at genealogy.com, and I found John and Martha there too: >From the 1900 Federal census of Jefferson County, Missouri, Valle Township, City of De Soto, 4th Ward, district 63, taken June 22, 1900: Ogle, John; head of household, male, born 0ct 1852, age 47, married 23 years, born- Missouri, parents born- Missouri, occupation- teamster, not employed 6 months last year, r/w's, rents home, home is a house --- Martha; wife, female, born- Sept 1856, age- 43, married 23 years, mother of 5 children, 3 children living, born- Missouri, father born- Missouri, mother born- Tennessee, r/w's --- Charles; son, male, May 1890, age 10, born- Missouri, father born- Missouri, mother born- Tennessee, zero months in school last year, r/w's --- Edgar; son, male, born- June 1894,age- 5, born- Missouri, father born- Missouri, mother born- Tennessee, Apparently listed in the same household: Oscar, Ogle; head of household, male, born- July 1879, age- 20, married zero years, born- Missouri, parents born- missouri, occupation- teamster, not employed 6 months last year, r/w's, rents home, home is a house --- Clementine; wife, female, born- sept 1882, age- 17, married zero years, mother of zero children, born- Missouri, parents born Missouri, r/w's Nelson, Wlliam; cousin, male, born- sept 1882, age- 17, born- Missouri, parents born- Missouri, at school 3 months last year, r/w's There are a couple of obvious errors. Rick Waggener

To: the Franklin Co, Jefferson Co, and Washington Co. mailing lists. In the quest to track down my grandmother's cousins, I am looking now for the children and grand-children of John MOTHERSHEAD. New surnames of interest are: THURMOND, PIERCE, PRUITT (in it's various forms), CARDWELL/CARDWILL. I am also curious whether anyone knows anything about the ministers performing the marriages. Note that "the action" has now moved to Franklin County. OK, here are the marriages I have found that are possibilities. There seem to be quite a few "George," and "Charles" and "Thomas" Mothersheads, so I can't be SURE, but the children and their spouses MAY go like this: Charles MOTHERSHEAD, b. 1858. I see a marriage to Nancy M. THURMOND on 19 May 1897. Both were living in George, Franklin County. Celebrant was A.M. Todd. Charles would have been 39, which seems old. (Franklin Co Marriages, Vol. H, page 301) Lucy MOTHERSHEAD, b. 1860. I see a Lucy MOTHERSEAD marrying James M. PIERCE on 20 Aug 1890. Both were living in Central Twp, Franklin Co. Celebrant was M.B. Hurt (or Hunt?) If it's this Lucy, she would have been 30. (Franklin Co Marriages, Vol. G, p. 28.) Note: There is at least one other known Pierce connection to the MOTHERSHEAD's. If this Lucy is the daughter of John MOTHERSHEAD, then the Anna Belle MOTHERSHEAD that married William Heenan PIERCE was Lucy's cousin. (Franklin Co Marriages, Vol.G, p. 28) Lewis MOTHERSHEAD, b. 1862. No marriage found (yet). Martha MOTHERSHEAD, b. 1865. No marriage found (yet). George MOTHERSHEAD, b. 1866. Married Eva PRUITT 18 Feb. 1891. Celebrant M.B. Hurt, Baptist Minister. Married in residence of J. CARDWILL. Both were residing in Prairie Twp, Franklin Co. Celebrant is M.B. Hurt. These are my mother's maternal grandparents, with whom my mother lived when she attended high school. She said that after Eva's mother died, Eva "lived with the Cardwell family." My mother also gave the marriage as occurring in Feb. 1891, so I was thrilled to get a copy of this record this morning! (Franklin Co Marriages, Vol G, p. 92.) The Franklin Co. list may recall that previously we found out that Eva's sister Matilda was Charles Shoults' second wife and that her sister Adelyn married Simon Wall. (I still haven't found a good clue as to the sister's parents.) Thomas MOTHERSHEAD, b. 1869. (This is the Thomas MOTHERSHEAD there may be two of--one descended from an Indian who took the name MOTHERSHEAD and one from John MOTHERSHEAD, son of Clifton M/Head) I see a Thomas MOTHERSHEAD marrying Mary THURMOND on 16 Apr 1893. Both are of Prairie Twp, Franklin Co. Celebrant is A.M. Todd, a minister of the Gospel. Note that the Charles MOTHERSHEAD above married Nancy THURMOND (same last name as Mary) eight years later. (Franklin Co. Marriages, Vol G, p. 324.) -------- All of these marriages took place in Franklin Co, not Jefferson Co. -------- So, in the 1900 and 1910 and 1920 censuses, I am especially watching for the following, who are more likely to be in Franklin Co than in Jefferson Co.: -MOTHERSHEAD, Charles and Nancy -PIERCE, James M. and Lucy -MOTHERSHEAD, Lewis or Louis, b. 1862 -MOTHERSHEAD, Martha, b. 1865 -MOTHERSHEAD, George, b. 1866, and Eva, b. 1874 -MOTHERSHEAD, Thomas, b. 1869, and Mary (and any other Thomas MOTHERSHEAD's that might be around). Questions: -Does anyone recognize any of these families as "theirs?" -Does anyone know the names of the children of these families? -Is there more than one Thomas MOTHERSHEAD around at this time? -Does anyone know more about the CARDWELL's? -Is there reason to believe one or more of these marriages was NOT by a child of John MOTHERSHEAD? Thank you for any help! I have Soundex indices awaiting me at the local FHC for some of these census, and I will "get there" on my own eventually, but it is a thrill when someone else supplies just that right piece of the puzzle, so I am posting this as well as continuing to research "the slow way." Susan in Rochester

Jim- I have checked the 1860, 1870, and 1880 censuses in Jefferson County for your John. I am struck immediately by the fact that there are a lot of Ogles in each census. Unfortunately, I was unable to find your John in the 1860 census. I looked through my transcribed version twice. It is possible that it was missed by the transcriber or there is some other error. I did find him in 1870, but he is not listed with his parents. He is in Valle Township, Hillsboro Post Office, household #272. This is the household of 30 year old Elbert Smith and his wife and family. Elbert is listed as a Livery Stable Keeper. John's entry, taken September 1, 1870: Ogle, John; age- 17, male, occupation- works in livery stable, born- Missouri, reads/writes I also found him in 1880, with his wife and child: >From the 1880 Federal Census of Jefferson County, Missouri, Valle Township, De Soto, taken June 2, 1880, household #20: Ogle, John; male, age- 27, head of household, married, occupation- teamster, born- Missouri, father born- Missouri, mother born- Kentucky --- Martha; female, age 23, wife, married, occupation- keeping house, born- Missouri, father born- Missouri, mother born- Kentucky --- Oscar, E.; male, age- 10/12, born-July, born- Missouri, parents born- Missouri Rick Waggener

Sarah Ann Ogle, born Nov 2, 1858, DeSoto, Jefferson Co. MO., married Bert Koller (date and place unknown) gave birth to son Bert Koller Nov 1, 1875. Bert died 28 Oct 1910. Sarah married (date of marriage unknown) Joseph Franklin Wilkson, born July 21, 1857, DeSoto, saloon keeper, died November 5, 1937, El Campo Texas, buried DeSoto City Cemetery. Sarah had the following children by Joseph: Emily Victoria Wilkson, born July 13, 1879: Efffie Clementine Wilkson, born March 1883; Frank Moses Wilkson, born September 12, 1890; and Clara Mae (Clarissa) Wilkson, December 10, 1885. Sarah Ann Ogle died 1894, DeSoto, Jefferson, Co, MO. Joseph Franklin Wilkson married Julia Ellen Ogle 22 Sep 1895. Julia Ellen Ogle was born December 23, 1873 and died 24 Dec 1897, El Campo EX, buried DeSoto City Cemetery. I have a photo of Sarah if you are interested. My surnames are Wilkson, Bradley, Marchand, Straub. Joe Wilkson

I wonder if anyone can tell me about George Forbes. This is a loooong shot, but I have been stuck forever trying to find Rosa Clerc, born 1896, Hillsboro (still listed with her maiden name in the 1920 census). I have a postcard marked Hillsboro, dated Dec 2, 1916, addressed to Rosa Clerc: Dear Rosa, Better have George bring you out Sat. night or meet me at Goldwau (?) at 9:30 Sun. a.m. Hope you have had a nice time and that this finds you and yours all well. Love, Kathleen I have no idea who George or Kathleen are. I have been going back thru things and have noticed George Forbes name (the long shot is that it is 14-15 years earlier) in a class photo. Many of the children's last names are the same as those families I am still trying to find that lived in the surrounding area of the Clerc's Poultry Farm (it makes sense that they would all go to school together, so I thought maybe it would make sense that she married one of them...) Thanks for any leads! Kay-Florida

WHOOPS! I left out a slask when I posted the address for this website. Thanks for letting me know. Let's try again. It is http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jcat2/clifdesc.htm Let me know whether this works, OK? Susan in Rochester

Sue, Am copying here a transcription of the Jefferson Co Court Records, showing John Murrell becoming Guardian of John Mothershead, son of deceased Clifton Mothershead. John was only 6 at the time... I don't know if the laws of that time would have allowed him to chose to adopt the Mothershead name or not, but my opinion is that I don't think they would have (you couldn't choose your own guardian until you were 14, I would think the same rule might apply). Please note, when you have a chance to look at the Census records from the late 1800s, there are _several_ "miscellaneous" Mothershead children/young adults of various ages living with families who have different surnames. It's not clear why they are living with the other families; some of those young people are old enough that I think it would be possible that they could have changed their name. Jo Ann http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jcat2/ New Email: jp_miller01@yahoo.com --transcription of court record-- Know all men by these present; That we John Murrell as principal, and Orson Baker and Archer Cheatham as securities, as held and firmly bound unto the State of Missouri, in the full and just sum of four hundred dollars, lawful money of the United States, to which payment well and truly to be made, we bind ourselves, our heirs, executors and administrators, to and for the use of John Mothershead a minor hereafter named and mentioned. The condition here of is such, That whereas John Murrell above named, has, at the October term 1840 of the County Court for the county of Jefferson, been appointed guardian of the above named John Mothershead a minor of the age of nine years, heir of C. Mothershead; now if the said John Murrell above bounden shall well, truly and faithfully discharge the duties of his office, as guardian aforesaid, according to law, then this obligation to be void, else to remain in full force and virtue. Dated and sealed at Hillsboro this twenty fifth day of January, 1841. John Murrell Orson Baker Archer Cheatham Recorded Jany 26th 1841 Jno L. Mathews Recorder ---end transcription--- --original message--- > To the mailing lists for Jefferson, Franklin, and Washington Counties: > > A few days I posted a Query regarding the Thomas MOTHERSHEAD family. > Thomas was born about 1869, and appears to be a brother of my ggrandfather > George Mothershead, born in 1866 (both in Jefferson County). However, > there were very different stories about the origins of Thomas's (and > therefore George's) father John Mothershead--was John Mothershead descended > from Clifton MOTHERSHEAD or was he an Indian who adopted the MOTHERSHEAD > name? Since John MOTHERSHEAD is my gggrandfather, I have a strong interest > in figuring this out! (Was there one John MH or two? Indian or not? Which > is mine?) > > The main people furnishing information are as follows: First, Sue Cooley > of Franklin County (to which the Thomas MOTHERSHEAD family moved). I will > indicate her inputs. Second, there is JoAnne's website about Clifton > MOTHERSHEAD's descendants (Jefferson County). This can be found at > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com~jcat2/clifdesc.htm, and if I say > "the Website," that's what I mean. This website is very well documented, > although I have not checked most of the original source materials myself. > Lastly, Lloyd Carter of the Jefferson County mailing list furnished ALL the > census information, unless I indicate otherwise. > > I am including the Washington County mailing list because that is where > Thomas MOTHERSHEAD's daughter Pearl L. MOTHERSHEAD was residing at the time > of her marriage to John W. BURNETT in 1920, and other members of the family > may either be there or have been there. > > Here is the information furnished by Sue Cooley: > > John Mothershead's birth name was Blackhorse Pakaki according to my > records. Much as newly-freed slaves were required to take a last name, > Blackhorse, in order to buy land, also had to choose a white surname and > the name he chose was Mothershead. Perhaps he had a friend or someone he > admired by that name (perhaps one of your ancestors). It is said that he > led a wagon train to CA and walked back alone, that he scouted for General > Sterling Price in his Civil War march across MO (Confederate), and that he > helped delay Union General Nathaniel Lyon by burning a few strategic > bridges. > > Also, I have his wife as Ann, nee Murrell. The children of John and Ann > were Charles, George, Thomas and Louis L. Mothershead. There were also two > daughters. One, by the name of Patty, married a Walls, but my source could > not recall the other girl's name. > > I hope this helps. > > Sue Cooley > Franklin County Coordinator > Missouri USGenWeb Project >

Just a quick note.... I believe Marie Davis was in error when she listed Whitaker Mothershead and Charles Mothershead as sons of William Mothershead who died ca 1829 in Jefferson Co MO. William died Intestate which meant that ALL of his heirs had to be listed in the probate proceedings. We know William's wife predeceased him since she is not listed anywhere; Charles and Whitaker Mothershead are also not included. Charles and Whitaker were both still alive and most likely living in Jefferson Co MO when the probate was taking place and by law would have had to be included in the proceedings. --Jo Ann New email address: jp_miller01@yahoo.com ---originial message > 9 Charles Mothershead > Birth: 1806 [162] > Married 1832 Susannah Long. [162] > > 10 Whitaker Mothershead > Birth: 1812 [162] > Married first 1834 Ellen Long. Married second Eveline. [162] > >

Hi: I'm looking for some Ogle's in Jefferson County. John L. Ogle born October 11, 1852, Desoto, MO. married Martha Nelson in Desoto. They had four children: Charles J born 1890 Edgar " 1895 Oscar Elmer L 1901 Any info would be helpful. Jim Ogle

A John Ogle married Delphia Williams in 1881, but I don't know anything about him. Delphia is in my family. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ogle, Jim F." <Jim.Ogle@nscorp.com> To: <MOJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 6:37 AM Subject: [MOJEFFER] Ogle's > > > Hi: > > I'm looking for some Ogle's in Jefferson County. > > John L. Ogle born October 11, 1852, Desoto, MO. married Martha > Nelson in Desoto. They had four children: > > Charles J born 1890 > Edgar " 1895 > Oscar > Elmer L 1901 > > Any info would be helpful. Jim Ogle > > > ==== MOJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Please visit the Jefferson County MOGenWeb at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mojeffer/index.html - > Some of your questions may have an answer there! >

To the Jefferson Co. Mailing list The following are inputs I received about various MOTHERSHEADS after I posted my question about Thomas MOTHERSHEAD. They follow in no particular order. The sender is indicated by whatever signature they showed on what they sent me. (1) I found a Clifton S. Mothershead who married Matlida Dearing on 01, Jan 1882 whose parents were Thomas Mothershead & Jane Wiley. (per LDS website) Lloyd (2) Mothershead, Sterling b. Jan. 1862 married 17 yrs. farmer MO-MO-MO Mary b. Dec. 1866 7/6 MO-IN-OH Sterling b. Nov. 1883 Thomas b. Feb. 1885 George b. Sept. 1886 Essie b. Nov. 1888 Julia b. Sept. 1895 Emma b. July 1899 All born in Missouri unless otherwise noted. 15 & 16 June 1900 Valle Twsp. Jefferson County (I'm pretty sure this was from Lloyd Carter, as was the following.) (3) Obit from Jefferson County papers; Mothershead, Jane - died Feb. 25, 1899 at the home of her daughter, Mrs. Whitsed, near Desoto. The deceased was born in Jefferson Co., Mo. on March 15, 1833, the daughter of the late Mr. & Mrs. Stewart Wiley of Dry Creek. She married Thomas Mothershead on Oct. 30, 1857. She is survived by one son & two daughter. Burial took place at the Pilgrim's Rest Cemetery. (published March 23, 1899) (4) Susan, Here is another one that looks interesting; Mothershead, (no first name) Feb. 1861 WD. 6/6 boarding house keeper. MO-KY-KY Thomas Oct. 1862 MO-MO-MO Jesse C. Dec. 1883 driver, delivery wagon Addison F. Mar. 1885 driver, livery stable Willis Nov. 1886 school Elisa B. Dec. 1888 " John L. July 1892 " All born in MO. unless otherwise stated. 14, June 1900 Valle twsp. Desoto City, Mo. Jefferson Co. on Easton Street, ward #2 Lloyd (5) You probably already know this much, but when I visited the Hillsboro, Jefferson County cemetery a few months ago, there were several Mothershead stones. -Kay Mothershead Addison F 1885 07/00 Woodlawn Cemetery Mothershead Alta M 1891 Feb 1949 Woodlawn Cemetery Mothershead Clark 1914 1917 Hillsboro Cemetery Mothershead Felicia Jul 6 1?15 Mar 2 1?17 Pilgrim's Rest Cemetery George Mothershead Fred 1927 1948 Hillsboro Cemetery Mothershead Hoyt 07/31/07 07/20/67 Bethlehem Cemetery Mothershead I.S. 1863 1935 Bethlehem Cemetery Mothershead J. Lee 1892 Jan 1976 Woodlawn Cemetery Mothershead Jane Wiley Mar 15 1833 Feb 6 1899 Pilgrim's Rest Cemetery Mothershead John 1887 1949 Hillsboro Cemetery Mothershead Julia 1888 1934 Bethlehem Cemetery Mothershead Leila B 1929 Aug 1947 Woodlawn Cemetery Mothershead Mabel A 1884 11/00 Woodlawn Cemetery Mothershead Matilda E 1861 07/00 Woodlawn Cemetery Mothershead May 1894 1957 Hillsboro Cemetery Mothershead Rosa 1868 1940 Bethlehem Cemetery I.S. Mothershead Russell 1927 1948 Hillsboro Cemetery Note from Susan--those 00's really threw me until I realized they had to be 1900!

Dick Whitaker just sent this email, which shows my ggrandfather George MOTHERSHEAD in the household with John Mothershead and Ann MOTHERSHEAD (nee MURRELL). Thank you Dick! His message follows. Susan in Rochester I have a copy of the 1870 census for Jefferson County, Mo. On page 2 it shows John Mothershead age 34 , a miner Ann Mothershead age 33, keeps house Charles Motherhead age 12 attends school Lucy Mothershead age 10, attends school Lewis Mothershead age 08, attends school Martha Mothershead age 05, attends school George Mothershead age 04, at home Thomas Mothershead age 01, at home I hope this helps. Dick Whitaker

Here is some info on William Mothershead who is the ancestor of lots of Mothersheads in Jefferson Co. He came from Va via Warren Co Ky, as did the Long and Baker families. There was a lot of intermarrying with them, and also with the Wiley family (which came from guilford Co NC via Maury Co Tenn.) I have not really followed down any of these lines, as my Elizabeth Mothershead was fairly early. Mabry Benson 62 Eureka Ave, Kensington, California 94707-1111 benson@acm.org Name: William Mothershead Birth: 1762 Orange County, Virginia [162], Death: ca 1830 Jefferson County, Missouri [162] Father: Nathaniel Mothershead (ca1709-1782), Mother: Mary Minor (ca1735-) Misc. Notes 1802-05, 1807. on tax lists of Bays Fork, Warren County, Kentucky. [166] October 1809. William MOTHERSHEAD was named Administrator of the Estate of Mary LONG (widow of Benjamin LONG); in Warren County KY [source: "Warren County KY Wills and Settlements Will Books A & B 1797 - 1823" by Mary Moltenberry Rabold and Elizabeth Moltenberry Price]. 15 August 1809, William MOTHERSHEAD was given a Power of Attorney from Brumfield LONG and Richard LONG to receive any monies, etc, due them in Counties of Culpepper and Orange, VA, as heirs of estate of Benjamin LONG, deceased and of his widow Mary LONG, deceased. [source: "Deed Abstracts of Warren County, KY 1797 - 1812" by Joyce Martin Murray] Land 1 May 1824. Received patent for 167 acres, E half NE quarter Sec 22 & E half NW quaerter Sec 22 Twp 39N R 3E. [156] 1 May 1824. Received patent for 84 acres, E half NE quarter Sec 15 Twp 39N R 3E. [156] 20 May 1824. Received patent for 85 acres, W half SW quarter Sec 11 Twp 39N R 3E. [156] 10 Sept 1837. Milton Baker sold for $100 to Susy Baker land which was originally purchased by William Mothershead 20 June 1826, all part of W half SW quarter Sec 11 Twp 59 N R 3E which lies on the west side of Big River. [162] 1 Mar 1831. Received patent for 168 acres, SE quarter Sec 15 Twp 39N R 3E [156] Probate 1830. Clifton & Minor Mothershead administraors of will of William Mothershead. [162] William Baker signed a receipt for $650 for part of his part of the estate. Minor Mothershead, John Williamson, Clifton Baker, Milton Baker, Samuel Thurmond, and Orson Baker signed such releases. [162] 20 Oct 1830. Minor Mothershead and wife Cely, Orson Baker and wife Elizabeth, Milton Baker & wife Sarah, Samuel Thurman & wife Lucy, and John Williamson and wife ?Laury to Clifton Mothershead for $575 W half of SE quarter sec 15 twp 39N R3E [182] 10 Sept 1837. Milton Baker sold for $100 to Susy Baker land which was originally purchased by William Mothershead 20 June 1826, all part of W half SW quarter Sec 11 Twp 59 N R 3E which lies on the west side of Big River. [162] Spouse: Lucy Long, Marriage: 1788 Culpepper County, Virginia [190] prob daughter of Benjamin & Mary Long Children 1 Minor Mothershead Married Cely 2 Laury Mothershead Married John Williamson. [162] [182] 3 Lucy Mothershead Married Samuel Thurman. [162] [182] 4 Elizabeth Mothershead Birth: ca 1792, Death: bef 23 Aug 1838 Spouse: Orson/Austin Baker, Marriage: 18 Jul 1812 Warren County, Kentucky [161] Children: Calvin (1814-), Lucy (1817->1880) who married second Eli Wiley, uncle of Jane Wiley Mothershead, Susan, Elizabeth (-<1850), Nancy (1828-), Letitia Louise (1827-), Sarah (1828-), Alvin Minor (1830-) [Orson married second Martha Widow of Solomon Houk, who married third 21 March 1844 John Trimble, both residents of Washington County, Missouri. 5 Clifton Mothershead Birth: 1802 6 Susan Marie Mothershead Birth: 1805 Kentucky [162] Married Milton Baker. [162] They possibly divorced, as Milton sells land to Susan Baker in 1837. 7 daughter Mothershead Married Mr. Sauver [162] 8 daughter Mothershead Married Andrew Mothershead [162] 9 Charles Mothershead Birth: 1806 [162] Married 1832 Susannah Long. [162] 10 Whitaker Mothershead Birth: 1812 [162] Married first 1834 Ellen Long. Married second Eveline. [162] Sources 156. Bureau of Land Management land patent records at web site <http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/> 161. Warren County, Kentucky, Marriage Register A, p 10, LDS mf # 339 890 162. 'The Mothershead Family,' by Marie Ray Davis, ca 1995, LDS mf # 1 698 132 166. Warren County, Kentucky, Order Book 1, by Sandra Gorin 182. Jefferson County, Missouri, Deed Books 190. Virginia Marriages Early to 1800, by Jordan R. Dodd; 1990

To the mailing lists for Jefferson, Franklin, and Washington Counties: A few days I posted a Query regarding the Thomas MOTHERSHEAD family. Thomas was born about 1869, and appears to be a brother of my ggrandfather George Mothershead, born in 1866 (both in Jefferson County). However, there were very different stories about the origins of Thomas's (and therefore George's) father John Mothershead--was John Mothershead descended from Clifton MOTHERSHEAD or was he an Indian who adopted the MOTHERSHEAD name? Since John MOTHERSHEAD is my gggrandfather, I have a strong interest in figuring this out! (Was there one John MH or two? Indian or not? Which is mine?) The main people furnishing information are as follows: First, Sue Cooley of Franklin County (to which the Thomas MOTHERSHEAD family moved). I will indicate her inputs. Second, there is JoAnne's website about Clifton MOTHERSHEAD's descendants (Jefferson County). This can be found at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com~jcat2/clifdesc.htm, and if I say "the Website," that's what I mean. This website is very well documented, although I have not checked most of the original source materials myself. Lastly, Lloyd Carter of the Jefferson County mailing list furnished ALL the census information, unless I indicate otherwise. I am including the Washington County mailing list because that is where Thomas MOTHERSHEAD's daughter Pearl L. MOTHERSHEAD was residing at the time of her marriage to John W. BURNETT in 1920, and other members of the family may either be there or have been there. Here is the information furnished by Sue Cooley: John Mothershead's birth name was Blackhorse Pakaki according to my records. Much as newly-freed slaves were required to take a last name, Blackhorse, in order to buy land, also had to choose a white surname and the name he chose was Mothershead. Perhaps he had a friend or someone he admired by that name (perhaps one of your ancestors). It is said that he led a wagon train to CA and walked back alone, that he scouted for General Sterling Price in his Civil War march across MO (Confederate), and that he helped delay Union General Nathaniel Lyon by burning a few strategic bridges. Also, I have his wife as Ann, nee Murrell. The children of John and Ann were Charles, George, Thomas and Louis L. Mothershead. There were also two daughters. One, by the name of Patty, married a Walls, but my source could not recall the other girl's name. I hope this helps. Sue Cooley Franklin County Coordinator Missouri USGenWeb Project ***** Notes from me (Susan) The Clifton Mothershead website has the SAME wife (Ann Murrell) and nearly identical children (Lewis instead of Louis and two girls named Lucy J. and Martha (maybe Martha was "Patty or Patsy?"). The difference is that the website shows John MOTHERSHEAD as the son of Clifton and Martha (Patsy) Mothershead. My ggrandfather George MOTHERSHEAD'S death certificate shows "Ann Merle" as his mother. Censuses (thank you, Lloyd) 1850, Jefferson Co., page 410A Murrell, John, age 36 Blacksmith (Note: This is Martha's second husband. Clifton Mothershead died in 1838 and she remarried in 1841.), b. TN ,R/E $300 Murrell, Martha, age 41, b. KY (the mother) Murrell, Elizabeth, age 8 Murrell, Samuel, age 5 Murrell, William, age 9/12 Mothershead (children from marriage with Clifton) Thomas, age 21, laborer John, age 18, Sadler Willis, age 16, Laborer Charles, age 14, Laborer According to the website, "Clifton's heirs are clearly named." I haven't seen the papers (although I think they can be found on the web), but that should include my (probable)gggrandfather John. 1850, in a second location, Household #1031, Jefferson Co, page 476A Mothershead, Thomas, age 21, Farming Mothershead, John, age 18, farming Mothershead, Willis, age 15, farming Note the high resemblance to Thomas, John, and Willis as shown in the John MURRELL household. What are we to make of this? My personal opinion is that they were in the process of setting up a second household and were counted in both places (but are the same people). 1860, Big River twsp, Jefferson Co. (1) P.O. Richwoods Murrell, John, age 46 Blacksmith R/E $2000/ P/E $3135, b. TN Martha, age 51, b. KY (the mother) Samuel, age 15, farm-hand William, age 10 McColloch, James A. age 22, blacksmith R/E $1200 Patterson, Alvin, age 17 Maines, Millie, age 14 Maines, Lucy, age 13 (2) Big River Twsp, Jefferson Co, P.O. Richwoods, household #1040 (sorry, Lloyd--not clear to me whether the same household as John and Martha Murrell above) Mothershead, Charles, age 23, farmer (here's one of the Mothershead brothers) Nancy, age 23 (3) Big River Twsp, Jefferson Co, P.O. Richwoods, household #1021 Mothershead, Thomas, age 32, farmer, b. KY (here is a second MH brother) Wiley Jane age 28 b. KY (Lloyd--did it actually say "Wiley?" Martha, age 7 Clifton S. age 5 John C., age 3 Hannah E. age 1 Thurman, Thomas, age 12 (no relationship given) (4) Big River Twsp, Jefferson Co, Household #1022 Mothershead, John, age 28, farmer, b. KY (the "brother" I care about!!) Ann, age 23 (nee Ann Murrell) Charles, age 2 Lucy J., age 8/12 couldn't read or write (both) Note: Since it's an 1860 Census, these children are before the births of Lewis/Louis (1862), Martha (1865), "my" Ggrandfather George (b. 1866) and Thomas (b. 1869). Thomas (but possibly not this one???) and his father John are the ones about whom Sue Cooley is talking. Conclusions Although I believe there has to be some basis to the story of an Indian adopting the name John Mothershead (etc.), all the facts above say to me that the John Mothershead that parented Charles and Lucy (and my ggrandfather George, since his death certificate lists John Mothershead and Ann "Merle" as his parents), and probably Martha MH and at least "a" Thomas MH as well, is the son of Clifton and Martha MOTHERSHEAD. There may be others, but right now the scenarios I see for the Indian story are basically: (1) There was a Thomas Mothershead with a father who adopted the name John Mothershead, but John did not marry Ann Murrell nor father the children listed as brothers to the Thomas Mothershead of Franklin Co. The names Ann Murrell and the siblings of Thomas Mothershead, son of John Mothershead (son of Clifton) and Ann Murrell Mothershead, came to be associated with Thomas Mothershead's father through confusion with the John Mothershead who WAS a son of Clifton and/or (2) Thomas or John may have told tall tales. Or one or both may have died and their survivors tried (inaccurately) to piece things together without having facts and/or (3) I am missing some important fact(s). Questions: (1) Does anyone have a copy of the 1870 Census? I would like to see the John and Ann MOTHERSHEAD family in the 1870 census--it would be nice to see John, Ann, Charles, Lucy, Lewis/Louis, Martha, George, and Thomas all on it at once to verify an intact family with that composition. (2) Does anyone have a copy of a census with the Franklin Co Thomas MOTHERSHEAD family in it, e.g., 1900, 1910, 1920--could be in Franklin or Washington Co, rather than in Jefferson Co. Note that this is a Thomas Mothershead born in the 1860's, not Thomas born in 1829 (brother to John). Lloyd Carter and Kay sent some other information which does not bear directly on this question, but may be helpful to others. I will try to post that separately, and combine it all into one message. Susan in Rochester

FOR MOTHERSHEAD & WILEY RESEARCHERS: (remember ages & states vary depending on who puts them down) MOTHERSHEAD, Thomas age 32 farmer b. KY. WILEY, Jane " 28 b. " Martha " 07 Clifton S. " 05 John C. " 03 Hannah E. " 01 Thurman, Thomas " 12 (no relationship given) 06, Aug. 1860 Big River Twsp. P.O. Richwoods household #1021 Jefferson County, Missouri. It says all born in KY. FROM THE 1880 CENSUS MOTHERSHEAD, Jane (Wiley) age 42 farming WD. Clifton " 24 (only one arm) Sterling Price " 18 Ivanna " 15 Mary Jane " 12 02, June 1880 Big River Twsp. household #13 Jefferson County, Missouri Lloyd

To the Franklin, Jefferson, and Washington county mailing lists, FYI, I received the following info from Lloyd, of the MOJEFF mailing list. It has useful death info for Mothershead or Wiley researchers. To further confuse you: Obit from Jefferson County papers; Mothershead, Jane - died Feb. 25, 1899 at the home of her daughter, Mrs. Whitsed, near Desoto. The deceased was born in Jefferson Co., Mo. on March 15, 1833, the daughter of the late Mr. & Mrs. Stewart Wiley of Dry Creek. She married Thomas Mothershead on Oct. 30, 1857. She is survived by one son & two daughter. Burial took place at the Pilgrim's Rest Cemetery. (published March 23, 1899) Lloyd This looks like the wife of Thomas MOTHERSHEAD, b. 1829, oldest son of Clifton and Patsy MOTHERSHEAD. The Clifton Mothershead website shows him marrying Jane Wiley, daughter of Stewart Sampson WILEY and Hannah BEST on a different date than the obit, name 15 Nov 1851. No death date is shown on the website, but this appears to be it. Memo: Per the Clifton Mothershead website, the Thomas MOTHERSHEAD to which Jane WILEY was married is an uncle of the Thomas MOTHERSHEAD about which I am inquiring. The latter Thomas was born 1869 to Ann Murrell and John Mothershead. John Mothershead was a brother to the Thomas MOTHERSHEAD who was married to Jane WILEY. Jane Wiley could not have married the Thomas MOTHERSHEAD about which I am inquiring, because he was not born at the time of the marriage. Susan

Well!! Sue Cooley's answer to my query about Pearl L. MOTHERSHEAD's family really opened up some interesting questions! The Thomas MOTHERSHEAD family she describes sounds a LOT like the family described by Joanne of Jefferson County, believed to be descended from Clifton and Patsy MOTHERSHEAD! Sue's note raises a question as to whether (this??) John MOTHERSHEAD was indeed a son of Clifton. I have a vested interest in the answer, as I am 97% certain that my ggrandfather George MOTHERSHEAD is also a son of John MOTHERSHEAD (i.e., a brother of Thomas), and want to know if Clifton and Patsy are my ggggrandparents!! I am sending this message to the Franklin Co. mailing list, the Jefferson Co. list, and the Washington Co. list, hoping that between us we can figure this out. Here is the Thomas MOTHERSHEAD family(s), as shown by the two sources: -Headed by Thomas MOTHERSHEAD, whose father was John MOTHERSHEAD. John MOTHERSHEAD believed by family, per Sue Cooley note below, to have been an Osage Indian who adopted the "white" name Mothershead and therefore is unrelated to other Mothersheads in the area. But almost certainly the same Thomas is shown on JoAnne's website as the son of John MOTHERSHEAD (son of Clifton and Patsy) and Ann MURRELL. -Wife to be discussed below. -Children as shown by Sue Cooley in the message below are Nannie, Myrtle, Margie, Charlie, Elbert, and Pearl L. -Children shown on the Clifton MOTHERSHEAD website are Nancy, born March 1894 in Jeff. Co. MO; Myrtle, born March 1895 in Jeff Co., MO; Marge, born Jan 1897; and Pearl, born Feb 1900 in Jeff Co, MO. That is, they are THE SAME as listed in Sue's note, except that Sue also shows a Charlie and and Elbert. -The wife of Thomas MOTHERSHEAD is shown on the Clifton MOTHERSHEAD website as Mary --?--, born in MO. Last week I came across a marriage between a Thomas MOTHERSHEAD and Mary THURMONT in the index to 1890-94 marriages in Franklin County (haven't had a chance to do more than read the index yet). The Clifton Mothershead info may be found on the web at the following site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com~jcat2/clifdesc.htm. Questions: For Sue--(1) Was the mother of this Thomas MOTHERSHEAD family named Mary? (2) Were Charlie and Elbert the youngest children, perhaps born after the 1900 Jeff Co. MO census, which is the source given at the Clifton MOTHERSHEAD website for the Thomas MOTHERSHEAD family? (3) Did you ever hear who Thomas MOTHERSHEAD's mother was? Does anyone have census records for the Thomas MOTHERSHEAD family for 1910 or 1920? Sounds like they might be in Franklin Co. for 1910 and PERHAPS in Washington Co. for 1920, since Lucy J. was residing there at the time of her marriage in 1920? Has anyone seen the 1880 Census records for the John MOTHERSHEAD family? (I have been TOTALLY unable to find them on the 1880 Census CD's--maybe the Mothershead name is mis-spelled??!!) I understand that "Clifton's heirs were clearly named." Does that include John MOTHERSHEAD (presumably age 6 at the time)? Is there supporting data for the idea that there was a John MOTHERSHEAD who was an Osage Indian and adopted the MOTHERSHEAD name? I tend to believe that these family stories usually have "some" basis, but is there any data to go on? Is there any indication that John MOTHERSHEAD, son of Clifton, could have died and another person taken that name? I look forward to your input!!!! Below I will show my original query and Sue's response. ********** My original query: I see a Pearl L. MOTHERSHEAD of Pea Ridge, Franklin, Mo, over 18, marrying John W. BURNETT of Pea Ridge, Franklin Co, MO, over 21, license issued 10 Dec 1920, married on 10 Dec 1920 by Rev. H.E. Koenig, MG, at Union, Franklin Co., MO. Does anyone know anything about this Pearl L. Mothershead, especially who her parents and siblings were? *********** Sue's response: Well, for starters, Pea Ridge is in Washington County. However, this marriage did take place in Franklin County. The Pearl Mothershead you are asking about was the youngest daughter of Thomas Mothershead. Her siblings were Nannie, Myrtle, Margie, Charlie, and Elbert. Pearl married Bill Burnett (perhaps it was John William) and worked at the shoe factory at Union. Their sons were Glennon and Oley. Thomas Mothershead was the son of John Mothershead, believed to have been an Osage Indian, who had to take an "American" name in order to buy property and chose the name of Mothershead. Some members of this Mothershead clan have told me they don't believe they are related to any other Mothersheads because of this. I hope this helps. Sue Cooley Franklin County Coordinator Missouri USGenWeb Project

I would like to find when/where Emily D. (JACKSON) and Jacob G. WILSON died, or information on any of their children. Emily D. JACKSON b: c 1837, MO. (probably Washington County.) Jacob G. WILSON b: c 1835, MO. They married Mar 16, 1856, in Jefferson County, MO, (possibly DeSoto.) According to the 1860 census, Big River township, Jacob and Emily are shown with 2 children: Christopher E. age 3 and Mary Catherine age 1. The 1870 census, Big River township, shows Jacob and Emily with 4 children: Christopher age 14, Mary age 11, Jefferson age 9 and Annie age 1. One record shows Jacob G. WILSON married Jane PAGE, May 05, 1866 and they had a daughter Ann, b: c 1869, but Emily is listed as Jacob's wife in 1870 census. Mary Catherine m: James E(dward.) WILSON, Feb 07, 1878, Morse Mill, Jefferson County, MO. Can anyone help me on this family. I have quite a bit on their ancestors, just need more on them and their descendants. Thank You, Mary Miller marykell@aol.com