This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: carriebias Surnames: HOWELL of Jasper Co, MO, IL and OH Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.jasper/4899.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In the 1880 Census, Madison Township, Jasper Co, MO the Daniel Howell is my GG grandfather, he was first married to Elizabeth Abrams (she died in Oct 1879) at some point after the death of ELizbeth, Daniel either married or lived with Annie/Ann E. Pool. Annie Pool was a much younger woman that had been working in the home during the illness of Elizabeth Howell. I think from reading between the lines of what has come down via the family grapevine that most of the children (12 of them) of Daniel and Elizabeth were not pleased about Annie living/married to their dad, Daniel. As a result the family lore states that Daniel moved to Texas. I am not sure if that was the state of Texas or Texas, MO Daniel's brother James Howell did not serve in the Civil War as far as I have ever been able to locate records. And that specific James could not be the one you mention as he died in 1871 not 1901. Daniel's son, James was not born until 1853 and died in 1923, he is my G-Grandfather and he also did not serve in the Civil War. Of course there were sons of Daniel that did serve in the Civil War, they were older than James F Howell, my G-Grandfather. I am sure there were also cousins of my Great Grandfather that served, but I have not traced all of them.....I will follow up on ANCESTRY on those records, I may find another branch of my family connection as a result! Now as to the John Howell that committed suicide, that may well have been the brother of my Daniel Howell, I have the brother, John as born in 1805, he was married to ELizabeth Jones in 1829 in Macon Co, IL....so at some point he possibly may have moved on with the family to Jasper Co, MO. I do not know for sure as I have no death info for either John or his wife, Elizabeth (Jones) Howell. They had a son Daniel, but I do not have any birth info for him so can not again check to see if the family moved on to Jasper Co, MO. Unfortunately, we have been in a transition mode for the last 2 1/2 years of moving from one location to another.....job relocations.....but as of the 15th of March we will FINALLY be in our PERMANENT home! At that time I can finally unpack all of my genalogy hard copy info out of boxes.....I know I have Much MORE info on the Howell family in those records and so maybe I will find that this John is the one that committed suicide. I will be back to you and let you know.....I think if would be a huge coincidence to have two John Howells in the right time period, and one of them so close to the cemetery where Elizabeth (Abrams) Howell is buried and that they would not be related or possibly one of her sons and the same person!!!! Again thanks for the heads up on the James Howell that fought in the Civil War from OH, as that is where our family traces its origins and then next to IL and then on to MO. Carrie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.