You are right of course. I amnot giving up, just puzzled. My frind Gladys Kitchen in OK found this and now I am confused even more, if that is possible... I got one for you. I put in Sultana Coates into the 1930 census , the only one found was a married women , living in san Franciso, Cal. born 1892, Greece, has three children, and hubby 's name Gustave. So do you think senseor wasn't Willis in Calif, before returning to Mo. that these are who we are looking for and she was a married lady, they ran off together, had kid , she didn't like Mo. and went back West. Beig from Greece she would of been dark in color and perhaps taken for and Indian. Think about it. Hummm... ROse ----- Original Message ----- From: "N & K Chestnut" <nkopportunity@gorge.net> To: <mojasper@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [MOJASPER] Sultana E Coats Sarcoxie/1939 > Hi Rose, > Yes, if they try to disappear, finding them becomes almost impossible. > But what if "her son" went into the household of a relative, say > someone else from their tribe or to another person with kind & good > feelings toward the Native Americans. > No, they would not necessarily marry where they met, going over the > 'county' or 'state' line cannot be ruled out. > > Kay Chestnut nkopportunity@gorge.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rose Adams > To: mojasper@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 9:07 PM > Subject: Re: [MOJASPER] Sultana E Coats Sarcoxie/1939 > > > Thank you Kay. I have no clue where to look. If she disappeared, she > might > not have wanted to be found and her son might have gone by another name > other than adams. Willis looked for her for a long time and could not > find > them. Willis had lived for a while in Pawnee OK, I dont know where he met > her but am thinking that it was in Jasper since they got married ther, > maybe > her folks were there. Oh, and thanks for the ideas on the tribes. > Rose > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "N & K Chestnut" <nkopportunity@gorge.net> > To: <mojasper@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 4:33 PM > Subject: Re: [MOJASPER] Sultana E Coats Sarcoxie/1939 > > > > Hi Rose, > > Yes, the Osage Indians were in that area, but not just S.W. > Missouri. > > Check a map for Jasper Co., MO. Jasper Co., MO. is next to Cherokee & > > Crawford counties of KS. South of Jasper you would find Newton and > > McDonald counties of MO., and just to the west you would be in Ottawa > and > > Delaware counties of OK. And remember that Oklahoma was the original > > Indian Territory. East of Newton and McDonald counties of MO. you > would > > find Lawrence and Barry counties of MO. South of McDonald and Barry > > counties of MO. you would find Benton and Carroll counties of AR. So > you > > better be looking over the borders of all these counties even when it > is > > over the state line. > > I know one gal from church whose mother was a mixture of several > Indian > > tribes. She came from Miami, Ottawa Co., OK. > > The Handybook for Genealogists is quite interesting at this point. > > Ottawa Co., OK. created in 1907 - parent county = Indian Terr. > > Delaware Co., OK. created in 1907 - parent county = Cherokee Lands > > Adair Co., OK. created in 1907 - parent county = Cherokee Lands > > > > Different OK. counties came from different Indian tribe lands. But > > down in Arkansas that is not the case. > > > > Have you tried to google Osaga or Native American tribes? > > > > Can anyone else give Rose a suggestion? > > > > Kay Chestnut > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Rose Adams > > To: mojasper@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 9:03 PM > > Subject: Re: [MOJASPER] Sultana E Coats Sarcoxie/1939 > > > > > > Hi Kay: > > Puebula or however it was spelled would be our Uncle. Sultana was > indian. > > I > > dont know what tribe, but in reading the history of barry co, it says > the > > Osage were there. I have no idea when they came but on the BLM it > shows > > them > > in Jasper early. > > I wish I knew how to spell the sons name. A lady in Purdy MO > pronounced > > it > > Puebla, but I can only guess at best. > > Rose > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "N & K Chestnut" <nkopportunity@gorge.net> > > To: <mojasper@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 8:17 PM > > Subject: Re: [MOJASPER] Sultana E Coats Sarcoxie/1939 > > > > > > > Hi Rose, > > > Which parent was suppose to be Indian (Native American)? > > > Would their son be your first cousin? > > > If the family stayed in Jasper Co., MO., there might be a birth > > > record/certificate. > > > > > > Kay C. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Rose Adams > > > To: MOJASPER-L@rootsweb.com > > > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:38 PM > > > Subject: [MOJASPER] Sultana E Coats Sarcoxie/1939 > > > > > > > > > Hello list, I am Rose Adams from sunny CA. I am new to this list > and > > am > > > hoping for a good outcome for my search. > > > My grandfather Willis Raymond Adams marrid Sultana E. Coats in 1939 > in > > > Sarcoxie. They were supposed to have had a son, he is said to be > > indian. > > > We have been looking and looking trying to find our cousin, but > until > > we > > > found the marriage license, we didnt know where they lived. > > > Since we dont have a census for that time for a while yet, can any > of > > you > > > suggest what we look for? I dont know if they divorced or if she > died. > > > Hopefully in CA > > > Rose Adams > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > MOJASPER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > MOJASPER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MOJASPER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MOJASPER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOJASPER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOJASPER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >