This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Orlena39 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.jasper/378.380/mb.ashx Message Board Post: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mojasper/genie.html Webb City Library http://www.webbcitylibrary.com/thindex.html 101 S. Liberty St. Webb City, MO 64870 Phone: (417)673-4326 Fax: (417)673-5703 Library Email: info@webbcitylibrary.com Genealogy Email: webbcitygen@gmail.com with Genealogy in the subject line The Genealogical Society will do research limited at their library for a fee of $10.00 plus the cost of copies and postage. They also have for sale the following: 17 Volumes of "Jasper County Tombstone Inscriptions and Historical Miscellany", by Colleen Belk and the Index of the 17 volumes. Each volume sells for $15.00 and the Index sells for $25.00. "Mine Accidents and Deaths in the Southwestern Area of Jasper County Missouri 1907-1923", in 3 volumes. Contact the Genealogical Society for more information. Genealogy Web Page: www.rootsweb.com/~mowcags Phone: (417)673-0398 Genealogy Room Hours: Monday, Tuesday, Thursday 10:00am - 8:00pm Wednesday and Friday 10:00am - 5:00pm Saturday 11:00am - 4:00pm Sunday Closed ~~~~~ Orlena ~~~~~~ Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: scooter389 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.jasper/4895/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have updated the Missouri obits on my website www.geocities.com/ptbelair for the following counties Obits and Tidbits ----------------- Johnson Co NEW Pemiscot Co NEW Howell Co Ray Co Scott Co Grundy Co Audrain Co Jasper Co Nancy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Orlena39 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.jasper/4894.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Check the MOJASPER-L Archives for the message from Mary, a member of the Mailing List. A lot of people don't pay any attention to the notes at the bottom of the messages. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. You can answer it here and Mary should see it, however unless you are a mailing list member or know about the archives, you won't see the messages from the mailing list members. http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/MOJASPER/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/MOJASPER/2007-12/1196600463 She asks that you contact her personally. Orlena ~~~~~~ Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JoyceSnell64 Surnames: Palmer, Simon Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.jasper/4894/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone know if it is possible to obtain OLD adoption records from Jasper Co, MO??? I know adoption records are suppose to be sealed but what if ALL parties concerned died some years ago including child in question, who died in 1937. Any ideas . . . ??? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Forwarding to the MOJASPER list - got the address wrong on the original. Oops. Sorry. Tired. Marie -------Original Message------- From: mstephen Date: 12/02/07 11:24:45 To: MOJASPER-L-request@rootsweb.com; stlouis-mo@rootsweb.com Subject: [STLOUIS-MO] Nettie RIDDLESBARGER and Geo. W. READ - St. Louis &Carthage My Nettie RIDDLESBARGER seems to have kept her name Nettie (I was earlier wondering if it were really Jeanette). I have found that she married Geo. W. Read probably in St. Louis, probably in either 1883 or 1884. She is with her mother Susan Riddlesbarger in the 1880 St. Louis census in June and then they (incorrectly written as Riddlesbacher) are with her sister Emma Barrere (incorrectly written as Barrera) and husband in the November census 1880. I have found Nettie and Geo. in the 1910 St. Louis census as well as the 1920 St. Louis census. Nettie Price Read died in St. Louis in 1922. I have printed out her death certificate. I have found Geo. W. Read of Carthage as President of the Missouri Division of the Railway Agents' Association at least in 1893. Information gleaned from an article written in 1929 based on an interview with Nettie's sister Fannie (Frances Adkins Riddlesbarger Schafer) says that after the death of the mother Susan Riddlesbarger in 1884 Fannie went with her sister and husband to Carthage, where Fannie grew up, met and married Pierre Schafer. Now, my questions and requests for help. I cannot find Nettie and Geo. Read in the 1900 census. Can anyone help there? I can't find them in St. Louis, and I can't find them in Jasper County. I cannot yet find Nettie and Geo. W. Read's marriage. This I believe was in St. Louis and is outside of the online searchables. I have the LDS film numbers for St. Louis marriages. Does anyone have access to these without ordering them in? Does anyone go to the local Family History Center which keeps these on site and could look in them? I can order in the ones I need so as to print copies, but if someone could please look in the indexes and tell me a marriage date I could then order in the appropriate films here. The numbers are 528151 - Index to marriages, male O-Z 1881-1911 (looking for Geo. W. Read, born in Canada about 1846 or 1847 -- also looking for Pierre G Schafer who married Nettie's sister Fannie); 528164 - Index to marriages, female O-Z 1881-1911 (looking for Nettie Riddlesbarger, born in Kansas City, Missouri to Jesse Riddlesbarger and Susan Norton Riddlesbarger; on Nettie's death certificate she is "Nettie Price Read" and I have not seen "Price" in other references to her so do not know if that is a first-married name - I don't think so, as in the 1910 census they are both M1, 26 years. Also looking for sister Fannie or Frances Adkins Riddlesbarger, same parents, born in St. Louis about 1869.) I have sister Emma's marriage in 1874 in St. Louis. City Directories - does anyone have access to city directories for St. Louis and Carthage to help me pin down when Nettie & Geo. Read were in those two places? Since I cannot find them in the 1900 census I don't know when they went back to St. Louis, where they are in 1910 as well as 1920, both years on Clara Ave. Clara Ave is also the address on Nettie's death certificate. Death notice & burial permit from St. Louis Post Dispatch -- I found that death notice and burial permit were published in the St. Louis Dispatch, 1922: Read, Nettie Price 9/18 p21, *9/20 p24 (this latter appears to be the burial permit). Can anyone find these for me and scan or copy and mail? Costs covered, of course. Replies to mstephen@bmt.net . Thank you so much for any help on the above. Marie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STLOUIS-MO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Missouri Adoption records were sealed in 1941 so you might get lucky and find something in the county court house in Carthage. But, you must know for certain this is where the adoption took place. Being born in Jasper Co doesn't mean the adoption took place there. And, the other way around - being adopted in Jasper Co doesn't mean the person was born there. At this time I don't believe you will be able to access any records from the State. There is a current law which allows some access to records but the time frame you are seeking may or may not be included. Even if it is included - only the adoptee can request the info and the adoptive parents have to okay things, etc. In your case everyone is deceased so I don't think you will have much luck. Let me caution you that should you contact the State for info - it will probably close any access you might have found thru the county court. So, do not contact the State. Do not request an original birth certificate or any other documents. If you will contact me privately - I can give you a few ideas on ways to conduct your research without sending up any red flags. Mary

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: blancofallen Surnames: Bly Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.jasper/4893/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am searching for family connections to Earl Bly born in Webb City, MO. He was married to Ethel Lee Allen Eads and had at least one child named Dorothy. Answer here or contact me at fallen@moment.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

He seems to have just walked away from his first family Your fellow is not the only one to do that. My ancestor left his wife while she was pregnant with his second child (just because he thought the child was not his); and he married a young 'chick' nearby and had 13 more children. His brother went west leaving behind a wife & 14 'kids' just to get away from the hard feelings of the Civil War in MO. and none in the family wanted to go with him. His pension did go to his 1st wife. His obituary suggests that he married again out west. K.C. ----- Original Message ----- From: Nlment@aol.com To: mojasper@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 6:07 AM Subject: Re: [MOJASPER] Obit information requested Thank you Tom and Orlena for your help. I really appreciate it. My line is from his first wife. I've been trying to find information on what happened to his second wife and the kids from that marriage. He seems to have just walked away from his first family - three boys and a girl. His wife died in Childbirth and he put the kids with their maternal grandparents and moved on. In his Civil War records he doesn't even mention his first wife, but does at least mention the kids! I was hoping an obituary might have more information on his second family. Thanks again for your help, I really appreciate it! **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOJASPER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Did you get "All" his Civil War record envelope file, or just the ones they picked for the price you paid? If so, you may just not have gotten the info that you wanted. I don't have a lot of them, but I bought the entire file, which included everything even all the scrap paper, back when they weren't as expensive as they are now. I bought one entire file and I could tell I hadn't gotten it all while reading, then by putting it together page by numbered page. I wrote back asking for everything I hadn't got, but had paid for. I'd paid over $50.00 and got little info of any value. I wasn't able to get them to give it all to me, they claimed to not be able to find the rest, I finally had to give up. I did however get something on one page they'd sent. Up to that point I'd gotten nothing prior to the War and his marriage, but all the marriage information was there. I still have no idea if he's a relative of mine or my step great great grandmother. I have a few photographs of him from an old photo album. Anyway, every file I bought had the information for every marriage, sometimes conflicting info from different filing times, which still asked the same questions. It even had the marriages of his widow when she drew his pension after having later married twice. They had the info on the children dead and alive, but again it was often different from one application to the next. I may be wrong, but I believe only minor children needed to be accounted for in the records. Once they have no rights to support they didn't need to still be listed. I'm no longer up on the facts about the records. There can be much confusion of names, dates and birth orders especially as the applicant ages. I have death dates, with cemeteries, but am unable to find any records to support the info. This is after Death Certificates were required. I will say the State of Oklahoma tried... I think they sent me everything that was remotely close. Obituaries? Just take a look at some of todays. People die, but apparently were never born. There is no birthdate, place or parents. Some don't even give a death date or place. The women (generally speaking) may have a number of sons with different surnames, sometimes including their own maiden name. There is no mention of husbands. Their daughters will still be using their maiden or other names, but most of the male grandchildren will have yet other surnames. It's also the same with some men, they'll have a number of sons with different surnames NOT including their own. Nothing in the obits accounts for it. I read and wonder! Obituaries can be full of incorrect information especially in the old days, when they were written by/for the local newspaper without any info from the family. I have one with the deceased's given name entirely incorrect! I had one, the deceased's name was the only thing correct. I have obituaries of people I knew, and they are absolutely confusing and actually incorrect, but some one of the family gave the info and it was published. It's possible you may be able to find an obituary for him via the newspaper. The Carterville City Hall, I believe, has cemetery records to tell you if anyone else of his surname is buried in the cemetery. If you think some are buried under different surnames, they should be able to check them also. If you know his wive's names check WorldConnect to see if anyone has them in a family tree without knowing about him or with his name incorrect. Also check www.familysearch.org. Do you know which State, if not MO, he married in, check them for online records. I suggest you contact the researchers on WorldConnect, with some information from you, they may realize they know, or have more information than they think. Orlena ~~~~~ Nlment@aol.com wrote: Thank you Tom and Orlena for your help. I really appreciate it. My line is from his first wife. I've been trying to find information on what happened to his second wife and the kids from that marriage. He seems to have just walked away from his first family - three boys and a girl. His wife died in Childbirth and he put the kids with their maternal grandparents and moved on. In his Civil War records he doesn't even mention his first wife, but does at least mention the kids! I was hoping an obituary might have more information on his second family. Thanks again for your help, I really appreciate it! -------------------------------

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: blancofallen Surnames: Hawkins/Allen Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.jasper/4892/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Richard Joseph Allen died in a mining accident in Jasper County on 26 Oct 1916. He was married at the time to Faye Hawkins. I am searching for the family of Faye Hawkins. Can anyone help? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thank you Tom and Orlena for your help. I really appreciate it. My line is from his first wife. I've been trying to find information on what happened to his second wife and the kids from that marriage. He seems to have just walked away from his first family - three boys and a girl. His wife died in Childbirth and he put the kids with their maternal grandparents and moved on. In his Civil War records he doesn't even mention his first wife, but does at least mention the kids! I was hoping an obituary might have more information on his second family. Thanks again for your help, I really appreciate it! **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Briang1110 Surnames: Stanfield Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.jasper/378.379.6.159.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Is the Thomas E Stanfield you are talking about have a kid named Thomas Stanfield. And his kid had two kids, Bruce Monroe Stanfield and Beth Stanfield? Im looking for my great grandparents, I know Thomas Stanfield thats connected to my family was born in 1919, i think, and he was married to Leah Stranix. But I can not find any info on his parents. If you have any information can you please send it to me. My email is BrianG1110@aol.com just type STANFIELD in the subject so i know what it is about. Thanks in advance. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Briang1110 Surnames: Stanfield Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.jasper/378.379.6.159.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Is the Thomas E Stanfield you are talking about have a kid named Thomas Stanfield. And his kid had two kids, Bruce Monroe Stanfield and Beth Stanfield? Im looking for my great grandparents, I know Thomas Stanfield thats connected to my family was born in 1919, i think, and he was married to Leah Stranix. But I can not find any info on his parents. If you have any information can you please send it to me. My email is BrianG1110@aol.com just type STANFIELD in the subject so i know what it is about. Thanks in advance. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I had to stop. Here's some more. You may already have it. They don't have much on Josephus S., but if it's correct, they may have other information that might interest you. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ Results 1-2 of 2 Name Birth/Christening Death/Burial Database Date Place Date Place Wilson, Josephus S. 1847 Missouri :3101684 Father: Sampson W. Wilson Mother: Eliza Angelina Givens http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3101684&id=I604508037 Wilson, Josephus S. ABT 1847 MO ernstm Father: Sampson W. Wilson Mother: Eliza Angelina Givens http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ernstm&id=I5250 ~~~~~ Census 1900 > MISSOURI > JASPER > 1-WD CARTERVILLE > Series: T623 Roll: 866 HQ Page: 151 Sheet: 11B SD 13 ED 47 Surname GivenName Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year WILSON JOSEPH S 54 M W MO MO JASPER 1-WD CARTERVILLE 1900 226/236 Lines: 99-100 Date: 11 June 99. WILSON, Joseph S. Head W M Aug 1846 53 M 9 MO KY KY Sta Engineer 0 Yes yes yes R H 100. -----, Mollie R. wife W F May 1870 30 M 9 0/0 MO MO MO Blank Yes Yes Yes ~~~~~~~~~~~ 1910 > MISSOURI > JASPER > 1-WD CARTERVILLE > Series: T624 Roll: 791 HQ Page: 65 Sheet: 6A SD 13 ED 58 Surname GivenName Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year WILSON J S 63 M W MO MO JASPER 1-WD CARTERVILLE 1910 500 W. Main St. 109/116 Lines: 18-20 Date: 19 April 18. WILSON, J. S. Head M W 63 M3 19 MO US MO Deputy Constable Jasper Co. W No 0 Yes Yes R H 19. ------, Mollie Wife F W 37 M1 19 0/0 MO MO MO None None Yes Yes 20. ------, Chas. Son M W 31 S MO MO KS None None Yes Yes Note: He has been married 3 times, she once. Isn't it a shame they didn't ask how many children the men had? Orlena ~~~~~ Orlena <orlena@swbell.net> wrote: There isn't anywhere online that I know has many obituaries that far back. However, you can contact libraries and/or genealogical societies via telephone, email, or snail mail and ask them to check their newspaper microfilms. A couple of places you can check first, in the event it might be there are: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mojasper/ http://www.geocities.com/ptbelair/ If you haven't already found it, you can obtain his death certificate here. I usually only enter Surname and County, then check for others. http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/ Missouri Death Certificates, 1910 – 1956 Joseph S. Wilson February 11, 1917 Jasper 6236 view image Married Born: July 15, 1846 - Camdon Co. MO Died: February 11, 1917 Buried: Carterville Cemetery, Carterville, Jasper Co. MO Feburary 13, 1917 - Webb City Undertaking Co. Webb City, MO Occupation: Stationary Engineer Father: Samson Wilson Born: Scotland Mother: unknown Informant: Mrs. J.S. Wilson, Carterville, MO ~~~~~ I hope this helps. Orlena ~~~~~ Nlment@aol.com wrote: My gggrandfather, Josephus S. Wilson died 11 Feb 1917 in Carterville. Is there some place I can check for an obit for him - preferably on line as I live in California? Thank you Norma ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOJASPER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There isn't anywhere online that I know has many obituaries that far back. However, you can contact libraries and/or genealogical societies via telephone, email, or snail mail and ask them to check their newspaper microfilms. A couple of places you can check first, in the event it might be there are: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mojasper/ http://www.geocities.com/ptbelair/ If you haven't already found it, you can obtain his death certificate here. I usually only enter Surname and County, then check for others. http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/ Missouri Death Certificates, 1910 – 1956 Joseph S. Wilson February 11, 1917 Jasper 6236 view image Married Born: July 15, 1846 - Camdon Co. MO Died: February 11, 1917 Buried: Carterville Cemetery, Carterville, Jasper Co. MO Feburary 13, 1917 - Webb City Undertaking Co. Webb City, MO Occupation: Stationary Engineer Father: Samson Wilson Born: Scotland Mother: unknown Informant: Mrs. J.S. Wilson, Carterville, MO ~~~~~ I hope this helps. Orlena ~~~~~ Nlment@aol.com wrote: My gggrandfather, Josephus S. Wilson died 11 Feb 1917 in Carterville. Is there some place I can check for an obit for him - preferably on line as I live in California? Thank you Norma

It is online under the Missouri State Archives Death Records Certificates #6236.Hope this will help you.You can make a copy right from the wbsite to you computer. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Nlment@aol.com> To: <mojasper@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 8:00 AM Subject: [MOJASPER] Obit information requested > My gggrandfather, Josephus S. Wilson died 11 Feb 1917 in Carterville. Is > there some place I can check for an obit for him - preferably on line as I live > in California? > > Thank you > Norma > > > > **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest > products. > (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOJASPER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My gggrandfather, Josephus S. Wilson died 11 Feb 1917 in Carterville. Is there some place I can check for an obit for him - preferably on line as I live in California? Thank you Norma **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: patriciastaley223 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.jasper/4888.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I've just sent an e-mail concerning this obit. so you can get my e-mail address from it. Thank you so much. Your very kind! Patricia Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: scooter389 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.jasper/4888.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I was able to find the obit for you. If you will send me your email address I will scan and send it tomorrow. Nancy ptbelair@yahoo.com www.geocities.com/ptbelair Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JoyceSnell64 Surnames: Palmer, Cox, Woods, Fly Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.jasper/4891/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Seeking relatives of members who played with the Zola Palmer band in the 1920s: Eddie Cox, Bruton Woods, Byron Fly and someone with first name of Gene. This band stayed together until 1928. Please contact me if you recognize any of these names. I think Byron Fly later became "a judge". Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.