I have not as yet proven it, but my mother said that she and her sister and brother were put into an orphanage after her mother died and their house burned. Apparently my grandfather wasn't able to keep a house together for them until he remarried. Near as I can tell, my mother was 11 or 12 when her mother died. I believe that the fire must have been after that, so my mother would have been about the same age as your grandmother. I think your gma could very well have been in the Home. Adhaniá ----- Original Message ----- From: <Yoyo4233@aol.com> To: <MOJASPER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:49 AM Subject: [MOJASPER] Re: MOJASPER-D Digest V02 #106 > Would a child of 13 still be in the Children's home? My grandmother, > Margaret Elizabeth (Butterfield) Davis was 13 in June of 1900 at the Census. > Her mother had died in 1895 and grandma said she'd been sent to an Aunt over > in Dade County. I've searched all those census, and can't find the Aunt or > my grandmother. I'm beginning to wonder if she could have been placed in the > children's home, even though her father lived in Joplin, and had kept the 2 > oldest children with him, farming out the other 4. I found 2 of them with > the grandmother Butterfield in Dade Co., but Grandma and her youngest brother > have not shown up in the Census for 1900. I DO find her in 1910 - 5 years > after her marriage, and her youngest brother, by then 18 living with their > father. > > Thanks > Margaret Rollins, > yoyo4233@aol.com > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.343 / Virus Database: 190 - Release Date: 3/25/02

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1MB.2ACI/1955.1 Message Board Post: Not Jasper Co. but could this be them?? 1880 Census Place: Center, Hickory, Missouri Source: FHL Film 1254690 National Archives Film T9-0690 Page 543B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Jno. H. HINKLE Self M M W 25 IL Occ: Farmer Fa: OH Mo: MO Malinda HINKLE Wife F M W 24 MO Occ: Keep House Fa: TN Mo: TN Clara A. HINKLE Dau F S W 5 MO Fa: IL Mo: MO Cora I. HINKLE Dau F S W 2 MO Fa: IL Mo: MO --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I thought I sent the below message before, but got no reply so will try again. I lived my teenage years at 729 West Daugherty in Webb City, Jasper County MO. and drove a delivery truck for a cleaners. I thought I knew every street but cannot recall Pinchot Street, or its location, or what year the streetcars quit running. Thanks For any help. Don W., BigMo040@aol.com,

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1MB.2ACI/1955 Message Board Post: I need look up help with the 1870+ census for Joplin, Mo. I'm looking for my ggfather & ggmother Henry Henckel & Molinda. Anyone with the info please contact me. Also immigration record- @ 1868 poss thru New Orleans, LA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1MB.2ACI/1954 Message Board Post: I am looking for information on David Corwin Thatcher, who died in Carthage January, 1879. He was born in Ohio and lived in Indiana and Iowa before moving to Missouri. I know he served in an Iowa Infantry during the Civil War. I am interested in the names of his children. I believe he may be the father of my great, great grandmother, Sarah E. Thatcher, who was born in Indiana in 1848. Thank you for any help provided.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1MB.2ACI/1953 Message Board Post: Looking for ancestors of Frank R., Ferd, or Edgar B.Hill. Would appreciate any information. Jim Hill

I was wondering where I could find a death certificate for my g-grandfather that passed away in June of 1909. Also, if anyone has access to census records for 1900s for Sylvanus S (S.S.) Robinson and his wife Maria & William and Dora Cunningham, I would also appreciate that info. Thanks so much, Jeanne Cunningham

I lived my teenage years at 729 West Daugherty in Webb City, Jasper County MO. and drove a delivery truck. I thought I knew every street but cannot recall Pinchot Street, or its location, or what year the streetcars quit running. Thanks For any help. BigMo040@aol.com,

Would a child of 13 still be in the Children's home? My grandmother, Margaret Elizabeth (Butterfield) Davis was 13 in June of 1900 at the Census. Her mother had died in 1895 and grandma said she'd been sent to an Aunt over in Dade County. I've searched all those census, and can't find the Aunt or my grandmother. I'm beginning to wonder if she could have been placed in the children's home, even though her father lived in Joplin, and had kept the 2 oldest children with him, farming out the other 4. I found 2 of them with the grandmother Butterfield in Dade Co., but Grandma and her youngest brother have not shown up in the Census for 1900. I DO find her in 1910 - 5 years after her marriage, and her youngest brother, by then 18 living with their father. Thanks Margaret Rollins, yoyo4233@aol.com

Debra, A member of my family Zella Ruth Craig married a Hatcher man. I am trying to find out who now. She later was married to an Eichelberger and I have written these people to find out about her. Ruth was born in 1903 and lived in Jasper County all her life. She was probably related to your folks somehow. Susan Lane ----- Original Message ----- From: Debbie Buntrock <buntrock@frontiernet.net> To: <MOJASPER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:31 PM Subject: [MOJASPER] Infrmation on great grand-father and grand-father > My maiden name is Debra L. Hatcher, My great grand-father and grand father lived in Webb city, in Jasper county, Mo. My great grand-fathers name was, Benjamin Franklin Hatcher, He died in 1917,in Carterville, Jasper Co. Mo., and is buried at the Webb City cemetary. On June 19, 1870 he married my great grand-mother Dorinda Lucinda Daughty or (Doherty). They had 11 children, one of which was my grand-father Luna Franklin Hatcher, He went by the name of Frank. He was born on Aug. 5, 1874. In Dec. 1896 he married Myrtle Ball, I think that she died in child birth. their daughter was raised by Myrtle's parents. He then married Anna McCoy, I think they had 3 or 4 sons. He later married my grand-mother and had 5 more children, one of them is my father William Roberts Hatcher. If any one has any information on any of these people, or their children it would be much appreciated. Debra ! > L. Hatcher-Buntrock > >

My maiden name is Debra L. Hatcher, My great grand-father and grand father lived in Webb city, in Jasper county, Mo. My great grand-fathers name was, Benjamin Franklin Hatcher, He died in 1917,in Carterville, Jasper Co. Mo., and is buried at the Webb City cemetary. On June 19, 1870 he married my great grand-mother Dorinda Lucinda Daughty or (Doherty). They had 11 children, one of which was my grand-father Luna Franklin Hatcher, He went by the name of Frank. He was born on Aug. 5, 1874. In Dec. 1896 he married Myrtle Ball, I think that she died in child birth. their daughter was raised by Myrtle's parents. He then married Anna McCoy, I think they had 3 or 4 sons. He later married my grand-mother and had 5 more children, one of them is my father William Roberts Hatcher. If any one has any information on any of these people, or their children it would be much appreciated. Debra ! L. Hatcher-Buntrock

Will the lady that said she lived across the street from the Children's Home please tell me the township? Thanks, Debra ----- Original Message ----- From: Adhaniá <commodore8@msn.com> To: <MOJASPER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [MOJASPER] Childrens Home, Joplin > Well, they should have been... > > MacMullenChild > Carnation, WA, USA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Debra Rickman <rickman@cyberback.com> > To: <MOJASPER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 11:16 PM > Subject: [MOJASPER] Childrens Home, Joplin > > > > Would these children have been enumerated in any of the census? > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.343 / Virus Database: 190 - Release Date: 3/22/02 >

Well, they should have been... MacMullenChild Carnation, WA, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: Debra Rickman <rickman@cyberback.com> To: <MOJASPER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 11:16 PM Subject: [MOJASPER] Childrens Home, Joplin > Would these children have been enumerated in any of the census? > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.343 / Virus Database: 190 - Release Date: 3/22/02

Would these children have been enumerated in any of the census?

MY will of my GF who died 1901 originated and was probated in Jasper Co. It did not list his land, which was in the city limits, in the inventory either. There were additional probate records showing that the land was sold to pay off his debts. ----- Original Message ----- From: susan lane <sbowen2@midsouth.rr.com> To: <MOJASPER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [MOJASPER] Real estate not in probate records > Most of the time, land was not included in the inventory and the probate. It > usually was sold for whatever the person was willing to pay or it was left > directly to a person. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <happygrandpa@webtv.net> > To: <MOJASPER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 6:16 PM > Subject: [MOJASPER] Real estate not in probate records > > > > My G-grandfather died in 1873 in Jasper County where he owned several > > hundred acres of farming land. The inventory of his estate, with a > > certification and affidavit made by the administrator, lists many items, > > including such things as a rifle, revolver, saddle, notes, cash on hand, > > etc, but there is NO mention of the real estate. And yet there is a > > statement attesting to the fact that the "forgoing" is a full inventory > > and description of all moneys, good, chattels and estate, real and > > personal ....etc.. > > > > I just can't understand how they could ignore the acres of land. The > > fact that there was land in the estate was later evident in the courts > > because the court appointed 3 commissioners to "appraise and set out and > > off" the homestead for the widow and the minor children. They appraised > > 240 acres, however the Court of Common Pleas set of only 140 acres. > > Does anyone have any idea why the acreage wasn't included in the > > inventory? > > Thanks, > > John. > > > > >

Most of the time, land was not included in the inventory and the probate. It usually was sold for whatever the person was willing to pay or it was left directly to a person. ----- Original Message ----- From: <happygrandpa@webtv.net> To: <MOJASPER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 6:16 PM Subject: [MOJASPER] Real estate not in probate records > My G-grandfather died in 1873 in Jasper County where he owned several > hundred acres of farming land. The inventory of his estate, with a > certification and affidavit made by the administrator, lists many items, > including such things as a rifle, revolver, saddle, notes, cash on hand, > etc, but there is NO mention of the real estate. And yet there is a > statement attesting to the fact that the "forgoing" is a full inventory > and description of all moneys, good, chattels and estate, real and > personal ....etc.. > > I just can't understand how they could ignore the acres of land. The > fact that there was land in the estate was later evident in the courts > because the court appointed 3 commissioners to "appraise and set out and > off" the homestead for the widow and the minor children. They appraised > 240 acres, however the Court of Common Pleas set of only 140 acres. > Does anyone have any idea why the acreage wasn't included in the > inventory? > Thanks, > John. > >

My G-grandfather died in 1873 in Jasper County where he owned several hundred acres of farming land. The inventory of his estate, with a certification and affidavit made by the administrator, lists many items, including such things as a rifle, revolver, saddle, notes, cash on hand, etc, but there is NO mention of the real estate. And yet there is a statement attesting to the fact that the "forgoing" is a full inventory and description of all moneys, good, chattels and estate, real and personal ....etc.. I just can't understand how they could ignore the acres of land. The fact that there was land in the estate was later evident in the courts because the court appointed 3 commissioners to "appraise and set out and off" the homestead for the widow and the minor children. They appraised 240 acres, however the Court of Common Pleas set of only 140 acres. Does anyone have any idea why the acreage wasn't included in the inventory? Thanks, John.

Marie, I don't know about anyone else, but I have had nothing but positive experiences with getting info from Parker mortuary on older burials. The old "St. Peter" cemetery is located behind what is now St. Mary's church & school... Maybe they can be of assistance in locating Catholic records. >Does any one know is this a helpful church for info on deceased members. >I need some info from them. >I'm looking for a Margaret Tschappler or a AC Tschappler. I know these two >are deceased also looking for a Tom Cheek or a >Edward Welsh or Juanita Welsh . >not sure if they are deceased or not. >Also has anyone had any luck with Steven parker mortuary for info ? >all of the above is in Joplin >thanks Marie >

Does any one know is this a helpful church for info on deceased members. I need some info from them. I'm looking for a Margaret Tschappler or a AC Tschappler. I know these two are deceased also looking for a Tom Cheek or a Edward Welsh or Juanita Welsh . not sure if they are deceased or not. Also has anyone had any luck with Steven parker mortuary for info ? all of the above is in Joplin thanks Marie

Moses was B:1813 or 1814 in Caldwell, Ky. and D:Nov 7, 1876 in Medoc, MO. He married Margaret Ellen Hendrix. He had 2 sons Moses Levi and Edward. Moses Levi is my Grandfather. If you are a decendent of Moses E. please contact me and let's exchange information. I can give you info on Moses Levi and his cecendents to present. Herman