hi all, has anyone done any searhing in this area on orphan train riders. I'm searching for info on George F. O'Connor, likely indentured as a rider around 1888. Lived with the Winn family...noted in family info ...lived in Scammon and Webb City. I understand that usually indenture papers were filed with the local court in situations like this. I know that in his case he wasn't adopted, his name stayed the same and he was about 11 years old when he went to live with them. Has anyone ever found such a thing at the courthouse? would greatly appreciate any help, lookups, ideas, suggestions regarding this. thanks and good luck in your searching! MaryBeth

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Smith, Brown, Van Hee, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/1MB.2ACI/2042 Message Board Post: Seeking any information about Gertrude H. Brown, my great grandmother, who married David Harp Smith in North Dakota in 1905. They moved to Carterville, Missouri around 1906 and had one daughter there, Minnie Annie (aka Mary Frances) Smith (later Van Hee) in April 1907. Minnie was later a boarder at the catholic Academy of Our Lady of Mercy in Joplin, MO from 1917 - 1919 before she and Gertrude moved to Kansas City, MO. David H. Smith died in 1913. Gertrude may have had a sister who lived in NY and may have had a niece named Helen and a nephew named Gus. We hardly have any information on GHBS at all. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1MB.2ACI/2037.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Joplin Public Library 300 Main Joplin, MO 64802 Phone 417-623-7953 The genealogy dept. has a card file on obituaries and may be able to help you.

Try the libraries in Webb City, They should be able to help you ask for the genealogy site. Good Luck deborah

Try this site http://www.interment.net/

Rochelle, Check www.funeralnet.com and find the funeral home names/phone numbers for the different towns. Call and ask if they were in business, and if so, did they handle the arrangements. If they did, ask if they would send you their funeral record. Since it was back in the early 1900s, I doubt that there would be much information, but....funeral home records are VERY GOOD sources of genealogical information. The more recent records have quite a bit of family info, and some even list cause of death, and the cemetery, plot, and space number where the person is buried Good luck! Keep Well! Do Good Work! Keep in touch! ciao, Ron

If anyone has time I would appreciate a look up for a Charles Cope. I found him and his family in the 1880 census in Sheridan, Jasper Co., Mo. I am needing information on his wife and don't know if they were there after the census or not. Thanks, mh

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1MB.2ACI/2037.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you. Anyone else with info. please reply. Also, how do I check the Joplin newspapers for an obit? Doug

Thanks so much for the good advise. Rochelle At 02:19 PM 7/22/02 -0500, you wrote: >Rochelle, > >Check www.funeralnet.com and find the funeral home names/phone numbers for >the different towns. Call and ask if they were in business, and if so, did >they handle the arrangements. If they did, ask if they would send you their >funeral record. Since it was back in the early 1900s, I doubt that there >would be much information, but....funeral home records are VERY GOOD sources >of genealogical information. The more recent records have quite a bit of >family info, and some even list cause of death, and the cemetery, plot, and >space number where the person is buried > >Good luck! > >Keep Well! Do Good Work! Keep in touch! > >ciao, > >Ron > >

Thanks for the thought. I did and he isn't there. Rochelle At 02:30 PM 7/22/02 EDT, you wrote: >Try this site > >http://www.interment.net/ > >

I am looking for the burial location of my great uncle Earl Willis Terrill. According to a family bible: Born:25 Sep 1884 in Kansas Died:21 Nov 1918, buried in Webb City, Alba or Purcell. Parents:David B. Terrill and Mary Angeline Tingley Terrill Wife:Pearl Thank you so much, Rochelle in the Sierra Foothills

JUST TO CLEAR THIS UP. If you look at what I said folks you will see that what I stated was that it wasn't changed to a two numbered abbreviation until the 1900's as in plural meaning sometime DURING the 1900's not the year 1900. ;-) I know it wasn't in 1900 and I never stated that it was. Please don't twist my words around. Andrea > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrea Heslin" <andee@columbus.rr.com> > To: <MOJASPER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 9:24 AM > Subject: Re: [MOJASPER] easiest explanation of Ia signify in the 1850 > census? > > > > One thing we all need to remember, the two letter abbreviations were > created > > for Postal service and were not abbreviated as such until the 1900's. They > > were not the commonly used abbreviations of the 1800's. > > > > Andrea > >

Iowa became a state in 1846. I know a man by the name of Boardman and Horace Brownson My ancestors founded a County around then Clayton I think. This is taxing my brain. Enuf saif Norma IBSSG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norma Bremer" <norma@normasplace.com> To: <MOJASPER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [MOJASPER] easiest explanation of Ia signify in the 1850 census? > My two cents, Seems to me that was all Indian Territory till about 1860 Need > to look up the date, In IA even some of the original counties have changed. > B: 1926 and ain't nothin the same as then when I started school in 31 Oregon > was ORE I remember that. But I know I read something about it all being like > Indiana or Illinois I will look it up ( Not Oregon!) There I go again. Well > off to Google Norma IBSSG > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chestnut" <nkopportunity@gorge.net> > To: <MOJASPER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 9:30 PM > Subject: Re: [MOJASPER] easiest explanation of Ia signify in the 1850 > census? > > > > Oh a lot later than 1900. I was born in 1937 and OREGON was first Oreg. > > then Ore. and finally OR and I remember California to first have been > Calif. > > then Cal. and finally CA and Washington was first Wash. then WA but some > > thought it was WN > > Kay > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Andrea Heslin" <andee@columbus.rr.com> > > To: <MOJASPER-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 9:24 AM > > Subject: Re: [MOJASPER] easiest explanation of Ia signify in the 1850 > > census? > > > > > > > One thing we all need to remember, the two letter abbreviations were > > created > > > for Postal service and were not abbreviated as such until the 1900's. > They > > > were not the commonly used abbreviations of the 1800's. > > > > > > Andrea > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <DPerger@aol.com> > > > To: <MOJASPER-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 8:32 AM > > > Subject: Re: [MOJASPER] easiest explanation of Ia signify in the 1850 > > > census? > > > > > > > > > > I know what you mean I did some research and yes IA was Indiana back > > > then. > > > > It was change to IN and Iowa to IA but I did not get as to when it was > > > > change.. > > > > > > > > Also I do know that back in 1972 this happen to my parents, we moved > > from > > > > Califorina to Florida. My parents abbr. Ca for Califorina but the > school > > > > system said that we was from Canada.. I do remember abbr. Califorina > as > > > Cal. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that is a puzzles.. LOL I wonder if they every got my school > records > > > over > > > > 30yrs ago.. > > > > > > > > have a great weekend all > > > > > > > > > > >

My two cents, Seems to me that was all Indian Territory till about 1860 Need to look up the date, In IA even some of the original counties have changed. B: 1926 and ain't nothin the same as then when I started school in 31 Oregon was ORE I remember that. But I know I read something about it all being like Indiana or Illinois I will look it up ( Not Oregon!) There I go again. Well off to Google Norma IBSSG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chestnut" <nkopportunity@gorge.net> To: <MOJASPER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [MOJASPER] easiest explanation of Ia signify in the 1850 census? > Oh a lot later than 1900. I was born in 1937 and OREGON was first Oreg. > then Ore. and finally OR and I remember California to first have been Calif. > then Cal. and finally CA and Washington was first Wash. then WA but some > thought it was WN > Kay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrea Heslin" <andee@columbus.rr.com> > To: <MOJASPER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 9:24 AM > Subject: Re: [MOJASPER] easiest explanation of Ia signify in the 1850 > census? > > > > One thing we all need to remember, the two letter abbreviations were > created > > for Postal service and were not abbreviated as such until the 1900's. They > > were not the commonly used abbreviations of the 1800's. > > > > Andrea > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <DPerger@aol.com> > > To: <MOJASPER-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 8:32 AM > > Subject: Re: [MOJASPER] easiest explanation of Ia signify in the 1850 > > census? > > > > > > > I know what you mean I did some research and yes IA was Indiana back > > then. > > > It was change to IN and Iowa to IA but I did not get as to when it was > > > change.. > > > > > > Also I do know that back in 1972 this happen to my parents, we moved > from > > > Califorina to Florida. My parents abbr. Ca for Califorina but the school > > > system said that we was from Canada.. I do remember abbr. Califorina as > > Cal. > > > > > > > > > Now that is a puzzles.. LOL I wonder if they every got my school records > > over > > > 30yrs ago.. > > > > > > have a great weekend all > > > > > > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Counterman Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1MB.2ACI/2041 Message Board Post: Seek information on Elizabeth and Silas (her 2 year old son) COUNTERMAN who were living with M. I Mitzenber in Jasper County, Missouri in the 1900 Census. Also, living in the same County, in Galena Tp., were Frank V. (Francis Victor) COUNTERMAN and his wife Nancy A. and his father Peter B COUNTERMAN and his wife Emma and 13 year old son Harry E. COUNTERMAN. I need more information on Elizabeth COUNTERMAN and also Peter COUNTERMAN. I would appreciate if anyone knows if they died there, where and when? Would love to contact any descendants, I have a lot to share! Thank you, from Marge Counterman

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/1MB.2ACI/2040 Message Board Post: yes I am looking for a large family reunion that happened in or around joplin in the early 70's, the reunion may have been in INdependence MO well maybe anyway , but grandma stayed in Joplin with relatives. don't know if it was a Ross or a collins reunion. but my ggrandmother VIVIAN ISABELL ROSS SKINNER from Bakersfield CA and her grandneice MABLE .... BARNES from Manhattan beach CA. drove out from CA when they were old to go to it. hopefully in some owns attic is some info about this family reunion. renee

Yes a great deal later. I started in the workplace in 1952 in Portland, Ore. (at that time.) In late 60's and early 70's the two letters came on the scene. But it was early 70's that it became mandatory that we use the list issued by the U.S. Post Office. I remember it well, as an old secretary, old habits were hard to break. Pat - Nyssa, Or ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chestnut" <nkopportunity@gorge.net> To: <MOJASPER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [MOJASPER] easiest explanation of Ia signify in the 1850 census? > Oh a lot later than 1900. I was born in 1937 and OREGON was first Oreg. > then Ore. and finally OR and I remember California to first have been Calif. > then Cal. and finally CA and Washington was first Wash. then WA but some > thought it was WN > Kay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrea Heslin" <andee@columbus.rr.com> > To: <MOJASPER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 9:24 AM > Subject: Re: [MOJASPER] easiest explanation of Ia signify in the 1850 > census? > > > > One thing we all need to remember, the two letter abbreviations were > created > > for Postal service and were not abbreviated as such until the 1900's. They > > were not the commonly used abbreviations of the 1800's. > > > > Andrea > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <DPerger@aol.com> > > To: <MOJASPER-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 8:32 AM > > Subject: Re: [MOJASPER] easiest explanation of Ia signify in the 1850 > > census? > > > > > > > I know what you mean I did some research and yes IA was Indiana back > > then. > > > It was change to IN and Iowa to IA but I did not get as to when it was > > > change.. > > > > > > Also I do know that back in 1972 this happen to my parents, we moved > from > > > Califorina to Florida. My parents abbr. Ca for Califorina but the school > > > system said that we was from Canada.. I do remember abbr. Califorina as > > Cal. > > > > > > > > > Now that is a puzzles.. LOL I wonder if they every got my school records > > over > > > 30yrs ago.. > > > > > > have a great weekend all > > > > > > > > >

Oh a lot later than 1900. I was born in 1937 and OREGON was first Oreg. then Ore. and finally OR and I remember California to first have been Calif. then Cal. and finally CA and Washington was first Wash. then WA but some thought it was WN Kay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrea Heslin" <andee@columbus.rr.com> To: <MOJASPER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [MOJASPER] easiest explanation of Ia signify in the 1850 census? > One thing we all need to remember, the two letter abbreviations were created > for Postal service and were not abbreviated as such until the 1900's. They > were not the commonly used abbreviations of the 1800's. > > Andrea > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <DPerger@aol.com> > To: <MOJASPER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 8:32 AM > Subject: Re: [MOJASPER] easiest explanation of Ia signify in the 1850 > census? > > > > I know what you mean I did some research and yes IA was Indiana back > then. > > It was change to IN and Iowa to IA but I did not get as to when it was > > change.. > > > > Also I do know that back in 1972 this happen to my parents, we moved from > > Califorina to Florida. My parents abbr. Ca for Califorina but the school > > system said that we was from Canada.. I do remember abbr. Califorina as > Cal. > > > > > > Now that is a puzzles.. LOL I wonder if they every got my school records > over > > 30yrs ago.. > > > > have a great weekend all > > > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1MB.2ACI/2037.1 Message Board Post: There is a Robert Foster listed in the Social Security Death Index with a last residence listed as Joplin, MO. He was born 2 Dec 1935 and died Dec 1981. You could search the Joplin papers for an obit.

One thing we all need to remember, the two letter abbreviations were created for Postal service and were not abbreviated as such until the 1900's. They were not the commonly used abbreviations of the 1800's. Andrea ----- Original Message ----- From: <DPerger@aol.com> To: <MOJASPER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [MOJASPER] easiest explanation of Ia signify in the 1850 census? > I know what you mean I did some research and yes IA was Indiana back then. > It was change to IN and Iowa to IA but I did not get as to when it was > change.. > > Also I do know that back in 1972 this happen to my parents, we moved from > Califorina to Florida. My parents abbr. Ca for Califorina but the school > system said that we was from Canada.. I do remember abbr. Califorina as Cal. > > > Now that is a puzzles.. LOL I wonder if they every got my school records over > 30yrs ago.. > > have a great weekend all > >