This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hays, Hayes, Bard, Smith? Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/1MB.2ACI/2906 Message Board Post: In researching the children of Boone Hays of Jackson Co., MO I have come across an Upton Hays who applied for and received a Confederate pension in Ottawa Co., OK. Boone Hays' son, Col. Upton Hays (b. 1832, MO) was killed in a skirmish near Newtonia, Newton Co., MO in 1862. This Upton Hays who survived the Civil War went to a Confederate reunion in Arkansas in the early 1900's and applied for the pension in 1925. He lived in Picher, Ottawa Co., OK. In the application he claims that he was born in Louisville, KY, he was 79 years of age putting his birthdate at about 1846 and had lived in OK for 15 years (1910-1925). He claimed to have joined the 2nd MO Cavalry in 1862 and served in Co. B under Gen. Shelby, Capt. Franklin and Lieutenant Webb and was discharged in 1864 in Shreveport, LA . The pension Conmmisioner questioned this as there was no Pvt. Upton Hays listed on the roster, that the 2nd. MO Cav. had become the 12th MO Cav, CSA in 1862 and that Capt. Franklin led Co. G, not Co. B. They asked him if he was a relative of Col. Upton Hays who led the 2nd MO Cav and he replied that he was his nephew. The pension file reveals that he married Annie in 1881 at Lamar, MO and there were 2 children, George Hayes of Joplin, Jasper Co., MO and Mrs. C. O. Bard of Seneca, Newton Co., MO. He died 29 Jan 1930. This Upton Hays does not appear in the 1870-1920 censuses. An Upton Hays, nephew of Col. Hays, b. 1864 MO, does appear and another nephew, also an Upton, died as a child. Annie Hays, in Quapaw, Ottawa Co., OK, applied for and received his benefits in 1930. She claims to have been born in Marion, OH in about 1859 and had lived in OK for 8 years. She does not appear in the 1900-1930 censuses. She died in 1933, in Joplin, MO. According to her son George, she had been living in Peoria, Ottawa Co., OK and he had brought her to his home in Joplin during her final illness. Both George Hayes and Mrs. Bard requested her last payment to cover her burial expenses and it was eventually sent to George. There are both a George (C.) Hayes and a Mrs. C. (Claud) O. Bard living in Joplin, MO in 1930, both born after 1881, but neither has parents born in KY and OH. I've been unable to locate these people in earlier censuses. George has a widower, Joseph Smith, 72, IL/OH/OH living with him and a search of the Ottawa Co., OK censuses leads me to wonder if this family was using the name of Smith. Some Civil War vet.s changed their names to avoid reprisals Any comments will be helpful

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bard, Hays, Hayes Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/1MB.2ACI/2775.1 Message Board Post: Is this the Mittie Bard listed as the wife of Claud O. Bard in the 1930 Joplin, Jasper Co., MO Census? Age 36 (1894), b. MO parents b. MO/MO. They had children Clay, James, Jack, Max L., Bonnie J. born in MO, OK and TX. Her name appears in the Confederate pension file of Pv. Upton Hays as a daughter of his wife Annie Hays.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/1MB.2ACI/2904.1.1 Message Board Post: Robert, You may already have this or it may be of no interest to you, but for what it's worth, here's what I'd found using HeritageQuest Census records. If someone has an Ancestry.com membership or goes to a public library that has a membership, they may be able to find him. I'm unable to look up each person individually or search some census years, so I was unable to find him in 1910 & 1930. The 1940 Census isn't available yet. If he is actually the son of G. A. /Gilbert A. Burkholder, neither he or his full/half sister were with G.A. & Mattie Burkholder in the 1910 Census. 1910 > MISSOURI > JASPER > MINERAL TWP. > PURCELL PCT. > PURCELL CITY Series: T624 Roll: 792 Page: 3A SD13 ED75 Sheet No. 3A - 6th & Main St. 75/77 Lines 49-50; 16 April 1910 Surname GivenName Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year Occupation BURKHOLDER G A 36 M W MO MO JASPER PURCELL 1910 - Miner - Lead & Zinc 50. Mattie Wife F W 33 Married1 - 12 years - 3 children/1 living; She was born MO both her parents b. MO They have no children listed with them here. I've attached the 1920 Census on the Message Board, it does not go to the Mailing List members and will not be found at the Mailing List Archives. 1920 > MISSOURI > JASPER > JACKSON > Series: T625 Roll: 922 HQ Page: 144; SD13; ED61; Sheet No. 11B; 20 St. Road - Renting - Farm No. 182 - 223/223; Lines 92-95; 21 Jan.1920 Surname GivenName Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year Occupation BURKHOLDER GILBERT A 46 M W MO MO JASPER JACKSON 21 1920 Farmer 92. Gilbert his father b. PA; mother OH 93. Mattie 94. Eldon B. age 15 born MO attended school 95. Fayne N. (? rhymes with Jayne/Jane?) age 13 born MO attended school I don't find them in 1900. The name did appear to be Gilbert. Just in case someone answers on the Mailing List instead of here, keep an eye on the Mailing List Archives. http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/MOJASPER/ You may find something of interest on this site also. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mojasper/ Orlena

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1MB.2ACI/2905 Message Board Post: found on the Foresthill Protestant Cemetery listing Luther G Eubank b 4 Sept 1886 d 24 Feb 1912 25y 5m 19d born Joplin, MO died at Rallstons, CA. Foresthill Protestant Cemetery is located at Foresthill, Placer Co, CA. It was a booming mine town during the gold rush era and until the late 1900's a large lumbering industry for this area. I have only distant relation to the Eubanks family so not much information. This is not one of my relatives but since I found the information I hope it proves useful to someone.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/1MB.2ACI/2869.2 Message Board Post: Thanks for the info on Sarah Cates.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/1MB.2ACI/2904.1 Message Board Post: I now find that this may have been Eldon Burkholder (1904-1980) instead.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/1MB.2ACI/2904 Message Board Post: I am an automobile racing historian and I am trying to learn what I can about Mr. Elder Burkholder who competed in the very first IMCA new car race ever run which was at Topeka, Kansas on Memorial Day of 1949. At that time, Mr. Burkholder gave his address as being Duenweg, Jasper County, Missouri.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Foreman, Smart Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/1MB.2ACI/1870.1 Message Board Post: Are you still looking for Jane Foreman? Problems with research is misspelling. These are in Ancestry census records: Jeremiah "Firman", 1850 census, Parke Cty. Ind. with brother Isaac and Eliza Smart "Firman" He marries Mary R. Smart Aug. 28, 1851, Parke Cty, Ind. "Germiah Furman" 1860 Vermillian Cty, Ind. Jeremiah "Forman" 1870 Clinton Cty, Mo Jerry "Freman" 1880 Joplin, Jasper Cty., Mo. Died July 23, 1886. Buried Cox Cemetery, Joplin. Jeremiah was in the Civil War, U.S. Pension, he was half Delaware according to my GGrandfather, Isaac. Three of my GUncles went to Indian schools, my Mother was in the Indian orphanage in OK. Several Foremans lived in Kansas and close to Joplin. They worked in the mines. I have no records before Isaac, Jeremiah, John and Amos Foreman. Isaac says his mother was Mary Langhorn (or Horn), Billie Schuller

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1MB.2ACI/2903.1 Message Board Post: 1910 > MISSOURI > JASPER > 4-WD JOPLIN > Series: T624 Roll: 790 Page: 203A Surname GivenName Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year BURKE MAGGIE 24 F W PA MO JASPER 4-WD JOPLIN 1910 I believe the age to be 29 NOT 24; 808 Locust St. 365/396 Lines 26-30 (x = left blank) 26. Burke, Maggie Head F. W. 29 M1 16 4/4 PA Ireland Ireland English Laundress At home OA x x yes yes O M H 27. --------, Charles Son M W 14 S MO IL PA English None yes yes yes 28. --------, Genevive Dau. F W 9 S MO IL PA x None x x yes 29. --------, Dorothy Dau. F W 7 S KS IL PA x None x x yes 30. --------, Margaret ? Dau. F W 5 S KS IL PA x None x x yes ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1920 > MISSOURI > JASPER > JOPLIN; GALENA > Series: T625 Roll: 922 HQ Page: 26 SD13 ED54 Sheet No. 7B Surname GivenName Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year BURKE MAGGIE 40 F W PA MO JASPER JOPLIN; GALENA 1920 It's getting late so I'll attach these two sheets. Just a couple of hits for 1910. They seem to be gone 1920. 1910 > MISSOURI > VERNON > WASHINGTON TWP > Series: T624 Roll: 827 Page: 114 Surname GivenName Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year BURKE THOMAS C 42 M W IL MO VERNON WASHINGTON TWP 1910 Line 80 Married 1 Inmate at State Hospital # 3 Laborer in the Wards ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1910 > MISSOURI > VERNON > WASHINGTON TWP > Series: T624 Roll: 827 Page: 113 Surname GivenName Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year BURKE THOMAS 59 M W OH MO VERNON WASHINGTON TWP 1910 Line 20 Married 1 Inmate same hospital Tinner at hospital ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Orlena

When I saw the name "Mrs. J. P. Moran," it piqued my interest. I have a little information on the ancestors of Joseph Peter Moran whose father lived in Barton Co., MO until moving to Tulsa, OK. I wonder if this is the same family? ~~ Jill

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BURKE, HANAHAN, MORAN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1MB.2ACI/2903 Message Board Post: MATERNAL ANCESTORS---THOMAS C. BURKE, AND HIS WIFE MARGARET ("MAGGIE?") hanahan (SP.?) WERE IN JOPLIN MO ABOUT 1902-1920 WHEN THEY WENT TO TULSA, OK. HAD CHILDREN: DOROTHY CATHERINE BURKE, b. 1902 P.C.BURKE, living 1956 (male) Mrs. J.P. MORAN, living 1956 Need anything and everything. Were they on 1910 and 1920 censuses in Joplin, Jasper Co., Mo.?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Springs Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1MB.2ACI/2902 Message Board Post: Looking for information on David Springs born 5/1885. Wife Anna Roberts Born 7/1885. 1900 census show them living in Webb City along with a daughter Elsie born 1882 and a son Guy Robert born 1885. Thanks Mary

There is a John Willoughby family that currently lives around Carthage. Wonder if they are related to who you are looking for? You can email me privately if you need info on that family. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 11:27 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [MOJASPER] John WILLOUGHBY I am seeking information on the family of John WILLOUGHBY, born about 1826 in Kentucky. The family appears in the 1870 Jasper County Census: WILLOUGHBY, John, age 44, born in Kentucky Elizabeth, wife, age 40, born in Tennessee Nancy, daughter, age 21, born in Tennessee Tennessee T., daughter, age 18, born in Tennessee Mary J., age 16, daughter, born in Illinois Enoch, age 13, son, born in Illinois (he was also known as William E.) Lizzie L., age 10, daughter, born in Illinois (she was also known as Elizabeth L.) Kate E., age 7, daughter, born in Illinois John, age 5, son, born in Illinois Minnie M., age 2, daughter, born in Missouri Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Pat [email protected]

I am seeking information on the family of John WILLOUGHBY, born about 1826 in Kentucky. The family appears in the 1870 Jasper County Census: WILLOUGHBY, John, age 44, born in Kentucky Elizabeth, wife, age 40, born in Tennessee Nancy, daughter, age 21, born in Tennessee Tennessee T., daughter, age 18, born in Tennessee Mary J., age 16, daughter, born in Illinois Enoch, age 13, son, born in Illinois (he was also known as William E.) Lizzie L., age 10, daughter, born in Illinois (she was also known as Elizabeth L.) Kate E., age 7, daughter, born in Illinois John, age 5, son, born in Illinois Minnie M., age 2, daughter, born in Missouri Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Pat [email protected]

Phyllis, No apologies needed. Maybe AOL's difference is why many seem not to understand when I've placed the info on Mailing Lists and Message Boards. Almost everything has rules somewhere, it's just not always easy to find them or understand them. I know I was a long time understanding the connection between the Message Boards and the Mailing Lists when available. I've also found in some cases the people on the Mailing List have no idea where the Message Board is located. I'm not familiar with using AOL, we had it before I started using a computer. We changed to Earthlink which one son still uses. Since I've been using a computer, we've had Netscape and now Yahoo even though it has swbell.net. I'm not always happy with it either. It seems to me like AOL would be inconvenient in many ways. Some of the stuff I get, there is a hyperlink for all of us, then another section with contact info for AOL users. I don't know if it's the security choices of the user or AOL, but many times I can't send an email to someone who has AOL. If I try to send my free yahoo or someone uses hotmail it is almost always turned back. Even my swbell.net won't be allowed in. Even people who were receiving my emails stopped getting them. I honestly don't think the person was stopping them, because I'd get emails wanting to know why I wasn't answering. You wouldn't believe the system we used to finally make contact again with a distant relative who had AOL in Germany when none of our emails could get through. We went through our circle of correspondents until we found some AOL users and had them to send messages for us. You can't do that forever, so we've all lost contact with him. I can only think of one AOL user still on my email list. She lives next door, so I don't often email her. Orlena [email protected] wrote: In a message dated 12/1/2005 12:27:24 PM Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Phyllis Wilson Carpenter, If you are interested in contacting the person who wrote the message from the Message Board follow the rules and click on the link to it, http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/1MB.2ACI/2901 and answer it there. That's why the link is included. People on the Mailing List usually receive the queries and answers from the Message Boards, but people on the Message Boards do NOT see messages on the Mailing List, unless they are also members of the Mailing List or know to check the Mailing List Archives. I suggest you bookmark the Mailing List Archives so you can also check on past queries and replies, as well as keep an eye on it when the Mailing List replies get confusing. http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/MOJASPER/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/MOJASPER/2005-12 Orlena My apologies. I didn't realize there were rules. For those of us with AOL the web address to the board is not a hyperlink so it is not as obvious. Phyllis Carpenter

In a message dated 12/1/2005 12:27:24 PM Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Phyllis Wilson Carpenter, If you are interested in contacting the person who wrote the message from the Message Board follow the rules and click on the link to it, http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/1MB.2ACI/2901 and answer it there. That's why the link is included. People on the Mailing List usually receive the queries and answers from the Message Boards, but people on the Message Boards do NOT see messages on the Mailing List, unless they are also members of the Mailing List or know to check the Mailing List Archives. I suggest you bookmark the Mailing List Archives so you can also check on past queries and replies, as well as keep an eye on it when the Mailing List replies get confusing. http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/MOJASPER/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/MOJASPER/2005-12 Orlena My apologies. I didn't realize there were rules. For those of us with AOL the web address to the board is not a hyperlink so it is not as obvious. Phyllis Carpenter

Phyllis Wilson Carpenter, If you are interested in contacting the person who wrote the message from the Message Board follow the rules and click on the link to it, http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/1MB.2ACI/2901 and answer it there. That's why the link is included. People on the Mailing List usually receive the queries and answers from the Message Boards, but people on the Message Boards do NOT see messages on the Mailing List, unless they are also members of the Mailing List or know to check the Mailing List Archives. I suggest you bookmark the Mailing List Archives so you can also check on past queries and replies, as well as keep an eye on it when the Mailing List replies get confusing. http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/MOJASPER/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/MOJASPER/2005-12 Orlena [email protected] wrote: In a message dated 12/1/2005 8:28:39 AM Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I'm looking for information on the John and Temperence McKinney family, both born in KY, in the 1850 through 1880 Jasper Co, MO census. I would like to know if they are the John McKinney and Temperence Hall, married 25 Oct 1832 in Todd Co, KY. I would appreciate any information. Thanks, Don I am really interested in this Temperance Hall. My Hall family was in Jasper County in the 1850 census. My GGgrandparents were Joseph and Sarah Hall. They were also from KY. I am wondering if they could be related to your Temperence. Phyllis Wilson Carpenter

Thank you Scott, Sue -----Original Message----- From: Scott Keller [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 5:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MOJASPER] Need help It so happens that 2005 had a Thursday, August 25. This web site will give you a list of years with the same calendar: http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/repeating.html?year=2005&country=1 Scott --- Carolyn Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > I have a copy of an old Grey Hound Race Program and it has Thursday, > August > 25 but no year. It seems that I once heard there is a place to go on > computer where you can calculate the year. Did I dream this up? > > Thanks, > Sue > > > Scott H. Keller [email protected]

In a message dated 12/1/2005 8:28:39 AM Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I'm looking for information on the John and Temperence McKinney family, both born in KY, in the 1850 through 1880 Jasper Co, MO census. I would like to know if they are the John McKinney and Temperence Hall, married 25 Oct 1832 in Todd Co, KY. I would appreciate any information. Thanks, Don I am really interested in this Temperance Hall. My Hall family was in Jasper County in the 1850 census. My GGgrandparents were Joseph and Sarah Hall. They were also from KY. I am wondering if they could be related to your Temperence. Phyllis Wilson Carpenter

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MCKINNEY, HALL Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/1MB.2ACI/2901 Message Board Post: I'm looking for information on the John and Temperence McKinney family, both born in KY, in the 1850 through 1880 Jasper Co, MO census. I would like to know if they are the John McKinney and Temperence Hall, married 25 Oct 1832 in Todd Co, KY. I would appreciate any information. Thanks, Don