This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1MB.2ACI/2940.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I'll try locally. No promises. The reader was busy today or I would have tried.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/1MB.2ACI/2940.1.1 Message Board Post: Yes, that was absolutly fine. It is the same family. I wonder how I could get an obituary for Peter B. Counterman who died in 1916?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1MB.2ACI/2939.1.1 Message Board Post: Marilyn - Thank you, thank you, thank you!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1MB.2ACI/2940.1 Message Board Post: Not sure this is of any help?? 1900 MO, Jasper, Galena Census: Pete B. Counterman Feb 1852 68 m/15 OH Emma H. " Oct 1865 35 c1/1 KS Harry E. " Jun 1886 13 KS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- P. B. Counterman, 66, died 12 Nov 1916. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1MB.2ACI/2939.1 Message Board Post: Harry Walker Rohm, born 4.17.1888 Carthage, MO died 20 May 1948 buried 22 May 1948 Park Cem. Carth. acute cardiac failure Fern Marie Rohm, last address 628 Byers Ave. Joplin, MO born 1925 MO died 15 Dec 1953 buried 18 Dec 1953 Park Cem., Carthage coronary occlusion --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1900 Carthage, Jasper, MO Census Rohm, George Washington Feb 1843 m/33 OH Ger IN Mary Jane Dec 1850 c/5/4 IN VA IN Harry W. Oct 1887 MO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Rohm, Geo. W. died 12 Jun 1927, bur. 14th, Park Cemetery, Carthage, MO, arterio sclerosis Rohm, Mary Jane 77, 1230 Keller St., died 19 Jan 1928, buried 22nd, Park Cemetery, arterio sclerosis Will send a couple other things by separate e-mails to your address. Marilyn

I was a classmate of Jimmy Rohm in Joplin High School. We graduated in May, 1943, six months after Pearl Harbor. I never saw James after we graduated. James was popular among other students and the teachers as well. Girls swooned over him. He was a good student, and he was personable. He was self-assured and had an air of sophistication. He was friendly with everybody. Another classmate was Bill Neal, who still resides in Joplin. Bill is the organizer of the reunions of the Class of'43. Bill has more records on the liiving 1943 graduates and on the fate of the others than anyone else you can find. I don't have his mailing address, but I'm sure I can come up with it if you would like to write to him. I am positive that he can be reached by telephone. The 1930 federal census for the Enumeration District 49-9 (Page 12A, 12 April 1930), 7th District, Joplin City, Jasper County, state of Missouri lists Harry W. Rohm (Head of household, age 42), Fern M. Rohm (Wife, age 42), James R. Rohm (Son, age 4), and Clarence H. Scott (Stepson, age 23). They were living at 436 N. Joplin Street. Harry was born in Missouri, and his parents were born in Indiana. Fern was born in Missouri, her father was born in Indiana, and her mother was born in Canada. Harry was the proprietor of a cafe. My guess is that you can find Harry's parents and grandparents in earlier censuses. Charles R. Whitsett On Feb 1, 2006, at 6:12 AM, [email protected] wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Rohm , Holt > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1MB.2ACI/2939 > > Message Board Post: > > My father was James (Jimmy) Rohm born in Joplin, MO on June 6, > 1925. His parents were Harry and Fern Holt Rohm. Looking for any > informtion - birth, death records on my grandparents. I do not > have date for Harry but know my Grandma Rohm (Fern) died on > December 15, 1953. They are buried I think in Carthage but may be > Joplin. > > I also know my grandparents use to run a small cafe in downtown > Joplin (approx dates 1925-1943). Believe my father was a > 1942/1943? graduate of Joplin H.S. and was a cheerleader. > > Any information is appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Counterman Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/1MB.2ACI/2940 Message Board Post: I found online a draft registration form for Harry Edward Counterman, age 33, born June 10, 1885 in Kansas. He was living at a hotel in Kansas City, Mo. His mother was nearest relative and her name was Emma Helen Counterman who lived at 309 Oliver, Joplin, Mo. I can't find either one of them Harry was also living in Joplin in the 1910 census. I can't seem to locate them in the 1930 census and was wondering if someone might know anything about the death of his mother, which I presume, may have been in Joplin after 1917 - 1918. Please contact me at [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rohm , Holt Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1MB.2ACI/2939 Message Board Post: My father was James (Jimmy) Rohm born in Joplin, MO on June 6, 1925. His parents were Harry and Fern Holt Rohm. Looking for any informtion - birth, death records on my grandparents. I do not have date for Harry but know my Grandma Rohm (Fern) died on December 15, 1953. They are buried I think in Carthage but may be Joplin. I also know my grandparents use to run a small cafe in downtown Joplin (approx dates 1925-1943). Believe my father was a 1942/1943? graduate of Joplin H.S. and was a cheerleader. Any information is appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1MB.2ACI/2408.1.1 Message Board Post: Lula was married to a Franklin Jefferson Ryburn. Her maiden name was Cowsert. Thanks for your response

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: WALKER, STITH, MESECHER Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1MB.2ACI/2938 Message Board Post: Source; The History Of Jasper County, Missouri, Mills and Co. Dess Moines, Iowa 1883 According to this Bio. James Walker was killed on his farm in Jasper County, 1861 during the Civil War. What is not mentioned is ; "By Whom". Does anyone have the comlete text of this event or another source? Henry and his wife Mary were my gggrandparents. They are listed in the 1850 U S Census CENSUS: 1850 U.S. Federal Census for Jasper County, Missouri lists Jamels walker age 50, head of household, occupation, Farmer. Source: Census Year 1850 TraMicrofilm #432-402 State MO County Jasper.nscribed by Renessa Lewis for USGENWEB Census Project.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: RYBURN, CHANDLER Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1MB.2ACI/2408.1 Message Board Post: My grandmother was Ruth Ryburn Chandler of Joiner, Arkansas and her brother Jeff Ryburn was married to a Lula Ryburn of this area. I'm not sure if she is still living or not. R.D. Ryburn is another brother of Ruth's of Panama City, Fl. Ruth's father was Robert Lee Ryburn.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Taylor, Demuth, Sutherland Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1MB.2ACI/2937 Message Board Post: I am searching for my great-grandfather, William Taylor. He was born in the 1870's and died at St John's Hospital in Joplin on Nov. 16, 1908. His death was the result of a mining accident at the Kohinoor Mine which was associated with Continental Zinc. The funeral was handled by Joplin Undertaking and Embalming. He lived in Chitwood and his wife was Lillie Taylor (Demuth). They had 2 children, Mrytle and Bertha. Does anyone know this family? Death records are not available for the year of his death. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! I need help!!!!!!!!

Is there anyone that might be able to give the span of years that Wingo studio operated in Joplin? Wingo 417 Main Joplin, Mo. This was on a picture that I have and it would help me place the year the picture was taken. Sue

Hey, that is a good site. Thanks for sharing. I'm not crazy about their maps. They sure do load slow. That Hybrid map never did load for me. That is strange how that road changes from M to N. I have a note that a well just barely south of there had tar or oil in it at one time. Kinda interesting. That well was reportedly in this area: http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=37.28472&lon=-94.31028&datum=NAD27&s=24&size=l Mike On Sun, 22 Jan 2006, [email protected] wrote: >Mike, > > Have you run onto Lat-Long.com site. It can be really good or a complete zero. > > http://www.lat-long.com/ > > Check this out. > > http://www.lat-long.com/Missouri/cemetery.html enter Paradise, for this example, into >the search feature. If more than one cemetery is found they will all appear. They only >have one Paradise Cemetery. Click on it. > > The map that comes up has 2 options, Satellite and Hybrid. The Hybrid is, for this >purpose, the best. (Satellite alone, as with GNIS and TopoZone often confuse me.) > > Click on Hybrid then zoom in using the + . I'm sure you don't need this detailed >instructions, but it may help someone else. The directional arrows allows you to see the >entire area map. Using the down arrow, it looks as if north of Carthage one could get on >the other road that seems to run along the west side Hwy 71 and get to the cemetery >without having to figure out the interchange. What do you think? > > I've already sent them this link, but I hadn't followed the other road back then. > > I haven't been in that area for many, many, years, so I don't remember it at all. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~ > > According to the 2 Cemetery Lists I have of Jasper County cemeteries: Continue on 71 >past Joplin and Carthage. > > PARADISE: Northwest corner junciton Hwy 71 and Rte M Road (Base Line Road); north of >Carthage, south of Jasper. (Their spellings) > > another one > > PARADISE: Start at intersection of Hwy 71 and State Route M south of Jasper. Cemetery >located in the north west corner of intersection. > > They do agree on Route M, however this map has State Hwy N written on it, which is >still Base Line Blvd. I'm changing it to M, as that's apparently correct. I just >noticed, my map is on 4 pages, 2 top and 2 bottom, when fit together and overlapped as >needed, I have the complete map except there's no legend. Paradise Cemetery is on the >end of each one. The page west of Paradise Cemetery is indeed M, while the page East of >Paradise Cemetery was a writo N. > > ~~~~~~~ > > Everyone should write this information down somewhere. If you are interested in Jasper >County these can be the folks to contact. They have been most helpful. For their >records, they'd like a written request even though they do help over the telephone. They >can find the needed information Book Page etc. to get your request at the courthouse >handled more swiftly. Steve Weldon, who has helped me, is very good. > > Jasper County Records & Research Center > 125 N. Lincoln ~ Carthage, MO 64836 > (417) 359-1100 > > > Orlena

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1MB.2ACI/2936 Message Board Post: I am looking for an obit for my grandfather ,Charles Amos Pulley, he died in Duenweg,Mo (I think) in 1960. Any information would be greatly appreciated thanks, Cathy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Henderson Ingalsbe Johnson Roberts Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/1MB.2ACI/2935.1 Message Board Post: Lynn, Have you seen the following? Hazael R Hender b 182/26 NY, son of Hazael Robinson Henderson and Lovisa Ingalsbe, married Miranda Jane Johnson and had Nancy Henderson b ca 1874 Joplins, MO Albert W Henderson b 1874 Joplins, MO Emily Jane "Emma" Henderson b 1880 Joplin, MO; m Edwin Franklin Roberts ca 1900. Sorry I don't have any of the names you listed. Bill

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Henderson/Renfrow/Griner Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/1MB.2ACI/2935 Message Board Post: I am looking for information about Hazel's family. On the LDS site I found this death record that Hazel was born c. 1906 and died June 22, 1940 in Carl Junction, Jasper, MO. Her parents were Robert E. Henderson and Anna Marie Rentfrow. According to census data she may have had brothers named Joseph Henderson and Roy or Ray E. Griner. Sisters included Ellen Henderson, Jessie Henderson, Helen Genivieve Henderson, Elizabeth J. Henderson and Georgia I. Henderson. Any help appreciated. Thank you in advance.

And, my step-grandmother worked at St. Johns most of her life. I have photos I took of the St. Johns building Oct 2002. Andrea Heslin -----Original Message----- From: Jan Lopez [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 8:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MOJASPER] Re: Obituary lookup for Wanda R. Gibson who died April 5, 2000 Orlena... I believe that what you say is very informative for people who do not live in the Four-State area and are not familiar with the fact that Joplin is the shopping/medical metropolis for the SE corner of Kansas, the NE corner of Oklahoma, the NW corner of Arkansas and the SW corner of Missouri. Growing up in SE Kansas demonstrated this to me from childhood. We shopped in Joplin, our TV stations were in Pittsburg and Joplin and more importantly, should we need surgical or trauma care, we were taken to St John's Hospital in Joplin. I know about Freeman's Hosp, but am not as familiar with their services. Several members of my family passed away at St John's, but their homes and burial places were in SE Kansas communities, such as Cherokee Co, Labette Co, Montgomery Co, Wilson Co and Crawford Co in Kansas, just as you stated, and the funeral homes that provided the services were from the home communities. I did not even know until I began doing genealogy that Joplin is in both Jasper and Newton Counties. Amazed me. Thanks for your post bringing this information to the attention of the people who live out of the area. Jan SE Kansas Native ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 4:51 PM Subject: [MOJASPER] Re: Obituary lookup for Wanda R. Gibson who died April 5, 2000 > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1MB.2ACI/2933.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Ron, > > Many times in many locations, your information would be right on. I've > used it myself. You've also apparently been lucky. > > Unfortunately, Joplin, MO is in both Jasper and Newton Counties MO. People > who die there live in other MO counties including the States of, KS, AR > and OK. Usually the funeral home they use will be from where they lived, > not necessarily where they died. > > Wanda R. Gibson, may or may not have lived in Jasper County and actually > may not have died in Jasper County. > > Many people are unaware of the fact some of Joplin is also in Newton Co. > The obituaries will not in many cases give enough information to determine > where the person has died. For example: St. John's Hospital is in Jasper > County across the street from Freeman's Hospital in Newton County. The > obit may state died in a local hospital, which adds other hospitals in > other counties, states depending on the time frame. > > I really hate died in an area nursing home. Unless you know where, this > one is almost impossible to trace. > > I'm often amazed at how many people die in Joplin from counties away from > Joplin. The only thing I've figured out is they were doctoring with a > local Joplin area doctor instead of one, for example, in Labette Co. KS. > There are frequently deaths in Joplin from Parsons, KS. > > There are some very very nice people who with a query of this kind with > the info needed given, will do some research in the Joplin Globe > microfilms at a library and send the obit. I thank them very much for > helping others. > > http://www.joplinglobe.com/ > > More links for the Jasper Co. area can be found here. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mojasper/ > > Newton Co. area. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~monewton/newton.html > > Orlena > > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/236 - Release Date: 1/20/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/236 - Release Date: 1/20/2006

Thank you Elmer THis tells me exactly how to get to Paradise Cemetery. I appreciated the maps I got but they was not as easy as these directions to the cemetery Evelyn -----Original Message----- >>Everyone should write this information down somewhere. If you are interested >in Jasper County these can be the folks to contact. They have been most >helpful. For their records, they'd like a written request even though they >do help over the telephone. They can find the needed information Book Page >etc. to get your request at the courthouse handled more swiftly. Steve >Weldon, who has helped me, is very good. > >Jasper County Records & Research Center >125 N. Lincoln ~ Carthage, MO 64836 >(417) 359-1100 > > ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

Jan, Sometimes it seems to take forever to get some facts out so they will be considered in searches for information. I backed away from a site for a long time, because of all the mistakes. It had/has such potential to be of great help but there is no way to keep up with all the people who post incorrectly. http://www.findagrave.com They [FAG] are back to trying to get corrections made. They have volunteers who are called County Keepers and they sign up to report mistakes to a specific person and go to group discussions to report errors out of their county. We are not allowed to make any corrections ourselves. Which really slows it down in some cases. http://www.findagrave.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=558627&an=0&page=0#558627 http://www.findagrave.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=571074&an=0&page=0#571074 For example, Cherokee County Kansas http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=csr&CScnty=894 DARN! I see someone has added a Weakley cemetery, that as far as I know does not exist, at least under that name. It might have been Pence Cemetery, but wasn't. In fact, the people are buried in Hill Crest Cemetery in Galena. Would you believe they have been placed in the correct cemetery, by the same person who added the incorrect cemetery to hold them? She doesn't usually mess up that bad. Now, I'll have to send an email asking for all of Weakley cemetery to be deleted. The last corrections I sent weren't done, so I'll have to see if I can find that email and resend it. Anyway, back to my point. I'd tried to add a burial for a person who died in Joplin, Newton County and they didn't have anything but Joplin, Jasper County. I didn't add it because I refuse to add incorrect information. I'm betting others weren't so conscientious. It took me quite a while, even after they started trusting me to know what I was saying, to get Joplin with the correct options. There are a lot of places with situations like that. I'm told there's one large cemetery in MO in three counties. I know of some in two counties and one in Newton County is in 2 States, MO and OK. As far as I know, I've not taken the time to read all the messages, neither Jasper or Newton Counties has a Keeper. I've gone to group discussions from time to time and requested corrections. In some cases, they are very obvious and easy, in others, it takes time and effort to be sure I'm giving the correct information, while correcting the incorrect. They now have a great new program that you all may want to make use of also. Request a photo http://www.findagrave.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=566440&an=0&page=0#566440 http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=1973625&CScn=Paradise&CScntry=4&CSst=26& Paradise Cemetery has a request for a photo for it. It also needs a correction made as it's been listed twice. I have to go to group discussions to do it. Would anyone who really knows the area like to volunteer to be it's Jasper County's Keeper? http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=30733&CScn=Paradise&CScntry=4&CSst=26& He would like a photo/photo's of this grave. I assume it/they could just be posted here. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=11632566 I've got to go eat now. Thanks to all of you who keep answering queries, and thanks to all of you who trust us to answer them correctly. Orlena ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jan Lopez <[email protected]> wrote: Orlena... I believe that what you say is very informative for people who do not live in the Four-State area and are not familiar with the fact that Joplin is the shopping/medical metropolis for the SE corner of Kansas, the NE corner of Oklahoma, the NW corner of Arkansas and the SW corner of Missouri. Growing up in SE Kansas demonstrated this to me from childhood. We shopped in Joplin, our TV stations were in Pittsburg and Joplin and more importantly, should we need surgical or trauma care, we were taken to St John's Hospital in Joplin. I know about Freeman's Hosp, but am not as familiar with their services. Several members of my family passed away at St John's, but their homes and burial places were in SE Kansas communities, such as Cherokee Co, Labette Co, Montgomery Co, Wilson Co and Crawford Co in Kansas, just as you stated, and the funeral homes that provided the services were from the home communities. I did not even know until I began doing genealogy that Joplin is in both Jasper and Newton Counties. Amazed me. Thanks for your post bringing this information to the attention of the people who live out of the area. Jan SE Kansas Native ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 4:51 PM Subject: [MOJASPER] Re: Obituary lookup for Wanda R. Gibson who died April 5, 2000 > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1MB.2ACI/2933.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Ron, > > Many times in many locations, your information would be right on. I've > used it myself. You've also apparently been lucky. > > Unfortunately, Joplin, MO is in both Jasper and Newton Counties MO. People > who die there live in other MO counties including the States of, KS, AR > and OK. Usually the funeral home they use will be from where they lived, > not necessarily where they died. > > Wanda R. Gibson, may or may not have lived in Jasper County and actually > may not have died in Jasper County. > > Many people are unaware of the fact some of Joplin is also in Newton Co. > The obituaries will not in many cases give enough information to determine > where the person has died. For example: St. John's Hospital is in Jasper > County across the street from Freeman's Hospital in Newton County. The > obit may state died in a local hospital, which adds other hospitals in > other counties, states depending on the time frame. > > I really hate died in an area nursing home. Unless you know where, this > one is almost impossible to trace. > > I'm often amazed at how many people die in Joplin from counties away from > Joplin. The only thing I've figured out is they were doctoring with a > local Joplin area doctor instead of one, for example, in Labette Co. KS. > There are frequently deaths in Joplin from Parsons, KS. > > There are some very very nice people who with a query of this kind with > the info needed given, will do some research in the Joplin Globe > microfilms at a library and send the obit. I thank them very much for > helping others. > > http://www.joplinglobe.com/ > > More links for the Jasper Co. area can be found here. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mojasper/ > > Newton Co. area. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~monewton/newton.html > > Orlena > >