Fern, They are in Kansas City in 1920. Indexed F M Cockrill. Elizabeth 40, Mura 21, Elizabeth 17, Frances 8. Living on Montgall. ----- Original Message ----- From: "fern" <rumycuzn@bresnan.net> To: <MOJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [MOJACKSO] Marriage index (Jackson County) > John, I don't know their exact birth dates, I'm just going by various US > Census'. > > Mura Cockrill was born in 1898 - Elizabeth Cockrill was born in 1903 and > Frances was probably an OOPs because she came in 1912. In the 1930 Census > she is 18 years old and the only daughter left at home. Her Mom and Dad > are > 59 and 56. So using 20 as the normal marriage age Mura would marry about > 1918 and Elizabeth would marry about 1923 and Frances about 1932. > > The family of 4 were in the 1910 census but are missing in the 1920 > census. > I have been searching off and on for these girls for over a year and have > always come up empty handed. Although I have not found any death dates > for > the father Frank M. and the mother Elizabeth I am pretty sure they stayed > in > Missouri until their deaths. > > Any help at all would really be appreciated. Fern > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John O'Brien" <JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com> > To: <MOJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 9:26 AM > Subject: Re: [MOJACKSO] Marriage index (Jackson County) > > >> Fern, I just searched about a dozen marriages that were listed on the >> marriage microfilm index. Only two were found!! Either the marriage web >> site doesn't have all the marriage applications/licenses or the microfilm >> index has applications/licenses that never took place, which I don't >> think >> is likely. >> >> I'll check the index for your marriages (Mura, Elizabeth and Frances >> Cockrill). About when were they married? (1800s, 1920s, 1930s??) >> >> John >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "fern" <rumycuzn@bresnan.net> >> To: <MOJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:09 AM >> Subject: Re: [MOJACKSO] Marriage index (Jackson County) >> >> >> > Thanks John, Hope you had a good Christmas.. Fern >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "John O'Brien" <JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com> >> > To: <MOJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 9:03 AM >> > Subject: Re: [MOJACKSO] Marriage index (Jackson County) >> > >> > >> > > Hi Fern, good to hear from you. Try the following: >> > > >> > > http://records.co.jackson.mo.us/ >> > > >> > > I don't know if it includes all marriages for all years ...... I >> haven't >> > > had a chance to test the site with searches of marriages I know took >> > place >> > > or marriages that are listed on the Jackson County courthouse > microfilm >> > > marriage index. >> > > >> > > John >> > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: "fern" <rumycuzn@bresnan.net> >> > > To: <MOJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com> >> > > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 9:44 AM >> > > Subject: [MOJACKSO] Marriage index >> > > >> > > >> > > > John is there a web site for the marriage index?? I would like to >> find >> > > the >> > > > marriages of Mura, Elizabeth and Frances Cockrill. >> > > > >> > > > Thanks, Fern >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ==== MOJACKSO Mailing List ==== >> > > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, >> > > political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal >> > > messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and >> > > will be grounds for removal. 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Ivy, Thank you so much for pointing that out to me. Don't know how I could have missed that. This will put a better light on when the girls were married. Have a good one!! Fern ----- Original Message ----- From: "IVY" <oyicroe@earthlink.net> To: <MOJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [MOJACKSO] Marriage index (Jackson County) > Fern, They are in Kansas City in 1920. Indexed F M Cockrill. Elizabeth 40, > Mura 21, Elizabeth 17, Frances 8. Living on Montgall. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "fern" <rumycuzn@bresnan.net> > To: <MOJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 11:20 AM > Subject: Re: [MOJACKSO] Marriage index (Jackson County) > > > > John, I don't know their exact birth dates, I'm just going by various US > > Census'. > > > > Mura Cockrill was born in 1898 - Elizabeth Cockrill was born in 1903 and > > Frances was probably an OOPs because she came in 1912. In the 1930 Census > > she is 18 years old and the only daughter left at home. Her Mom and Dad > > are > > 59 and 56. So using 20 as the normal marriage age Mura would marry about > > 1918 and Elizabeth would marry about 1923 and Frances about 1932. > > > > The family of 4 were in the 1910 census but are missing in the 1920 > > census. > > I have been searching off and on for these girls for over a year and have > > always come up empty handed. Although I have not found any death dates > > for > > the father Frank M. and the mother Elizabeth I am pretty sure they stayed > > in > > Missouri until their deaths. > > > > Any help at all would really be appreciated. Fern > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John O'Brien" <JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com> > > To: <MOJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 9:26 AM > > Subject: Re: [MOJACKSO] Marriage index (Jackson County) > > > > > >> Fern, I just searched about a dozen marriages that were listed on the > >> marriage microfilm index. Only two were found!! Either the marriage web > >> site doesn't have all the marriage applications/licenses or the microfilm > >> index has applications/licenses that never took place, which I don't > >> think > >> is likely. > >> > >> I'll check the index for your marriages (Mura, Elizabeth and Frances > >> Cockrill). About when were they married? (1800s, 1920s, 1930s??) > >> > >> John > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "fern" <rumycuzn@bresnan.net> > >> To: <MOJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:09 AM > >> Subject: Re: [MOJACKSO] Marriage index (Jackson County) > >> > >> > >> > Thanks John, Hope you had a good Christmas.. Fern > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "John O'Brien" <JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com> > >> > To: <MOJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com> > >> > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 9:03 AM > >> > Subject: Re: [MOJACKSO] Marriage index (Jackson County) > >> > > >> > > >> > > Hi Fern, good to hear from you. Try the following: > >> > > > >> > > http://records.co.jackson.mo.us/ > >> > > > >> > > I don't know if it includes all marriages for all years ...... I > >> haven't > >> > > had a chance to test the site with searches of marriages I know took > >> > place > >> > > or marriages that are listed on the Jackson County courthouse > > microfilm > >> > > marriage index. > >> > > > >> > > John > >> > > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > From: "fern" <rumycuzn@bresnan.net> > >> > > To: <MOJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com> > >> > > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 9:44 AM > >> > > Subject: [MOJACKSO] Marriage index > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > John is there a web site for the marriage index?? 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Fern: I checked the Jackson County marriage index (brides). The index covers the period of 1827 through 1937. There was a total of six COCKRILL brides. I'll give them all to you below. There is a "Myra"....could this be your "Mura"? 1901 - Mary June COCKRILL - Henry Lee DILLINGHAM 1919 - Edna May COCKRILL - George W. MOREY 1921 - Elizabeth B. COCKRILL - Frederick W. PALIS, Jr. 1924 - Myra COCKRILL - Richard B. L. SCHARFF 1925 - Mary Mildred COCKRILL - Fred T. HAUETTER 1930 - Mildred COCKRILL - Erwin O. KUNAU ----- Original Message ----- From: "IVY" <oyicroe@earthlink.net> To: <MOJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [MOJACKSO] Marriage index (Jackson County) > Fern, They are in Kansas City in 1920. Indexed F M Cockrill. Elizabeth 40, > Mura 21, Elizabeth 17, Frances 8. Living on Montgall. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "fern" <rumycuzn@bresnan.net> > To: <MOJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 11:20 AM > Subject: Re: [MOJACKSO] Marriage index (Jackson County) > > > > John, I don't know their exact birth dates, I'm just going by various US > > Census'. > > > > Mura Cockrill was born in 1898 - Elizabeth Cockrill was born in 1903 and > > Frances was probably an OOPs because she came in 1912. In the 1930 Census > > she is 18 years old and the only daughter left at home. Her Mom and Dad > > are > > 59 and 56. So using 20 as the normal marriage age Mura would marry about > > 1918 and Elizabeth would marry about 1923 and Frances about 1932. > > > > The family of 4 were in the 1910 census but are missing in the 1920 > > census. > > I have been searching off and on for these girls for over a year and have > > always come up empty handed. Although I have not found any death dates > > for > > the father Frank M. and the mother Elizabeth I am pretty sure they stayed > > in > > Missouri until their deaths. > > > > Any help at all would really be appreciated. Fern > >
Thanks John, You did it again. You have no idea how much I have appreciated your help over the years. Now I will have to wait for the next census to find out if these are the right girls or not. Wish I could find out when Elizabeth and her husband Frank F. died because perhaps they would have an obituary and it would name the daughter's married names. Keep a sharp eye out for them and you might run across them by accident. Thanks again John, Fern P.S. I got Mura/Myra's name from the census so who knows if it is Mura or Myra. This is a family with so many 'nicknames' I am surprised I have found them at all. Elizabeth Cockrill, the mother, is my gGrand Aunt. She is also known as 'Mamie' and 'Minnie'. Just go figure!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "John O'Brien" <JohnOBrien@kc.rr.com> To: <MOJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: "fern" <rumycuzn@bresnan.net> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [MOJACKSO] Marriage index (Jackson County) > Fern: I checked the Jackson County marriage index (brides). The index > covers the period of 1827 through 1937. There was a total of six COCKRILL > brides. I'll give them all to you below. There is a "Myra"....could this > be your "Mura"? > > 1901 - Mary June COCKRILL - Henry Lee DILLINGHAM > 1919 - Edna May COCKRILL - George W. MOREY > 1921 - Elizabeth B. COCKRILL - Frederick W. PALIS, Jr. > 1924 - Myra COCKRILL - Richard B. L. SCHARFF > 1925 - Mary Mildred COCKRILL - Fred T. HAUETTER > 1930 - Mildred COCKRILL - Erwin O. KUNAU > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "IVY" <oyicroe@earthlink.net> > To: <MOJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 1:00 PM > Subject: Re: [MOJACKSO] Marriage index (Jackson County) > > > > Fern, They are in Kansas City in 1920. Indexed F M Cockrill. Elizabeth > 40, > > Mura 21, Elizabeth 17, Frances 8. Living on Montgall. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "fern" <rumycuzn@bresnan.net> > > To: <MOJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 11:20 AM > > Subject: Re: [MOJACKSO] Marriage index (Jackson County) > > > > > > > John, I don't know their exact birth dates, I'm just going by various US > > > Census'. > > > > > > Mura Cockrill was born in 1898 - Elizabeth Cockrill was born in 1903 and > > > Frances was probably an OOPs because she came in 1912. In the 1930 > Census > > > she is 18 years old and the only daughter left at home. Her Mom and Dad > > > are > > > 59 and 56. So using 20 as the normal marriage age Mura would marry > about > > > 1918 and Elizabeth would marry about 1923 and Frances about 1932. > > > > > > The family of 4 were in the 1910 census but are missing in the 1920 > > > census. > > > I have been searching off and on for these girls for over a year and > have > > > always come up empty handed. Although I have not found any death dates > > > for > > > the father Frank M. and the mother Elizabeth I am pretty sure they > stayed > > > in > > > Missouri until their deaths. > > > > > > Any help at all would really be appreciated. Fern > > > > > > >