This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: P_Woolfork Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.jackson/6751.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes, Kansas has open adoptions records and birth records. If you need a birth reocrd you can request it online. I am not sure about 100 years old though. I would try first birth records Wyandotte Co Kansas Court Vital records. Then inquire about adoptions records. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JohnWOBrien Surnames: ABBEY, BURRELL, CLIFTON Classification: obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.jackson/6752/mb.ashx Message Board Post: "The Kansas City Times" (Missouri) Friday, May 21, 1915 DEATHS IN KANSAS CITY. Mrs. Catherine ABBEY, a widow, 70 years old, died Wednesday at the home of her daughter, Mrs. Homer CLIFTON at Paola, Kas. Besides Mrs. CLIFTON, another daughter, Mrs. R. O. BURRELL of Detroit, and a son, John S. ABBY of 1015 Lydia Avenue, survive. She had lived here at the home of her son. The body will be brought here at 10:20 this morning and taken to Elmwood Cemetery for burial. ====================================================== (I have no connection with this family but I'd appreciate knowing if you found this posting helpful.) johnobrien@kc.rr.com ====================================================== neirbo10 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

"The Kansas City Times" (Missouri) Monday, May 24, 1915 DEATHS IN KANSAS CITY. Mrs. Elizabeth HAUG, 62 years old, widow of Henry HAUG, a pioneer of Wyandotte County, died yesterday morning at the home of her daughter, Mrs. Frank BARNES, 1351 Quindaro Boulevard, Kansas side. Mrs. HAUG has lived on the Kansas side thirty-five years. She is survived by seven sons, Charles, William H., John, Gustave, Harry, Percy and Earl HAUG, and two daughters, Mrs. Frank BARNES and Mrs. Earl WILLIAMS. Funeral services will be held at the family home, 2707 North Eighth Street, at 2 o'clock tomorrow afternoon. Burial will be in Woodlawn Cemetery. ====================================================== (I have no connection with this family but I'd appreciate knowing if you found this posting helpful.) johnobrien@kc.rr.com ====================================================== neirbo10

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kshrockjones Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.jackson/6750.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It was not at all uncommon for grandparents of that era to come live with their children and grandchildren after the death of a spouse. In some families is was also the tradition that a child or grandchild live with an elderly relative and become their helper as they aged and became more frail. In return, they were often given the bulk of the estate. Census records may not have listed the parents if they were traveling or out of the home on the day of the census taking. Elizaeth's father may have been George Porter and she may have been born to Mayme outside of her marriage to Jesse Perkins. If Jesse was a step-parent, that may also be a reason why Elizabeth lived with her grandmother. Mayme J Perkins seems consistent with Mayme Jennie/Jennifer Perkins. Mayme may have been a given name or a nickname. In some family even today it is common for members to be known in the family by a name that has no relation to the name they were given at birth. For example, my granddaughters' other grandmother's given name is Frances JoAnn, but everyone knows her as Susan for some reason. Another example is my grandmother whose birth name was Agnes Josephine and she was always know to her family as Pete, which was short for Peaches. I even found her listed in the 1920 census at Pete. Well, she hated her name and changed it to her confirmation name of Patricia which she used legally the rest of her life, but everyone knew her as Mike, which is the nickname that my grandfather gave her when they met. He used to say that it was the name you could shout the loudest and it would carry the farthest. I kind of think now that it might have had something to do with the Tracy-Hepburn! movie Pat and Mike. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello all.... Looking for a divorce record for Fred R. Michael and Ida M. Neusenther. They were married in the County of Jackson state of Missouri 1906. I beleive that Ida was living East St Louis, Illinois. On the 1930 census it lists Fred as being divorced. Fred than marries a Lena ? ......date unknown or location. Any guidance on this would be greatly appreciated. Tom in sunny Canada... :-)

"The Kansas City Times" (Missouri) Tuesday, January 23, 1917 DEATHS IN KANSAS CITY. Carl BARACKMAN, 38 years old, died at the home, 24 South Prospect Street, Kansas side, yesterday. He had lived on the Kansas side thirty-three years. He is survived by a widow and five children; three brothers, Charles, Earl and William BARACKMAN, and one sister, Mrs. J. P. SPAKE, all of the Kansas side. Funeral services will be held at the United Presbyterian Church at 2:30 o'clock tomorrow afternoon; burial in Mount Hope Cemetery. ================================= note: in his father's obituary his sister's name is shown as STATE. ================================= I have no connection with this family. neirbo10

"The Kansas City Times" (Missouri) Tuesday, May 20, 1913 DEATHS IN KANSAS CITY. John Aquilla BARACKMAN, 70 years old, died Sunday morning at his home, 32 South Porter Street, on the Kansas side. Mr. BARACKMAN was a sergeant in the Seventh West Virginia Regiment in the Union Army. He had lived on the Kansas side twenty-nine years and was a member of the Methodist Episcopal Church forty-five years. His widow, Mrs. Julia A. BARACKMAN, and five children, survive. The children are: Mrs. John C. STATE, Charles T., Earl A., Carl and William BARACKMAN, all of the Kansas side. Funeral services will be at 2:30 o'clock this afternoon at the home. Burial will be in Oak Grove Cemetery. ================================= note: in son Carl's obituary the daughter's name is shown as SPAKE. ================================= I have no connection with this family. neirbo10 l

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: johnson3612 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.jackson/6751/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone know if it's possible to get adoption records from Wyandotte County, KS from 100 years ago? If so where should I start? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I'd first try the probate court. Missouri records are sealed, but think you can obtain Kansas ones. In cases where a person is still alive who is a subject of the records they may have to submit a request in person, but not sure with records that old what you would need. Nadine

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Bvl54 Surnames: Mitchell/Perkins/Dougherty/Porter/Eaton Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.jackson/6750/mb.ashx Message Board Post: in 1880 this couple is listed as living in Jackson Co., Kaw Twp. Apparently they either came from or went to Lowry City, MO. Alonzo died between 1880-1900 as Nancy was back in Illinois in 1900 with an 8 year old grand daughter Elizabeth Ann Porter. Nancy died in 1922. Elizabeth married Frank Eaton in Peoria, Illinois. Why was Elizabeth with Nancy? Elizabeth says her father is Goerge W. Porter and mother as Jennie H. Mitchell b. 1871 in Trenton, Illinois. HOWEVER, Jennie m. JEsse Perkins and her name is Nancy's will is Mayme J. and she signed the settlement papers as Mayme J. Perkins. This is a puzzle, but we know we have the same people! Can anyone out there help? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: johnson3612 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.jackson/6746.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You have quite a history in your family, how cool. And what a database!!! By any cahnce, is the Fleming you mention the same Fleming as in Fleming Park? The Everett Johnson you speak of I may know of, though not personally. He is, or was on my last visit, listed as a care taker of the Chiddix/Johnson cemetery, north of Grain Valley. I have a cousin, a Robinson, that speaks of him as well, but that is as far as I can help with that. As I said, I was born and raised in Oak Grove. I spent a fair amount of time in Sni Mills, and I'm not aware of any Johnson's there, nor of the story you shared, with the exception of what I'm sure to be my gg grandfather, Elihu, buried in Koger. Neither am I aware of any kin in the Pleasant Hill area. The closest connection I can make there is Alice DeAtley, marriage to George Schoonover, Mother of Bryan Schoonover in the 1930 Census. Alice & George had two sons, Lyman Hanilan, (Father of Bryan 1930 census) & Benjamin F Schoonover, Husband to my Gertrude Belle Johnson. Here's what I can tell you. My family of Johnson's were'nt too big on talking unfortunately, hence my search for my roots. I've always been told that Elihu Johnson, (Father of Gertrude) married a women that was either all or part American Indian. In fact I remember my g grandfather saying that he himself, was 1/4 Cherokee. I've yet to prove or disprove this. They also said that most people disagreed of this "interracial" mariage, and therfore they were shunned and stayed to themselves. I suppose it's possible this could have something to do with what that man told you. Do you recall his name, his age, when or where this took place? Even a guess might help me help you. Other than that you have all I have, sorry. I'll keep looking though, and I'll let you know if I find something. I really appreciate your help with the church records. I think I need to clear some things up though. The people I would be looking for would be Johnson's not Schoonover's. If what I have is correct, it goes as follows. >From Elihu's obit. from the Oak Grove Banner: "Mr. Johnson was a member of the New Liberty Church and was a good man... he left a wife, three sons, and two daughters..." He died 24 April, 1905. >From Gertrude's obit., aka Gertie, from the Oak Grove Banner: "Mrs. Belle Schoonover, wife of B F Schoonover died at her home in this city Saturday morning, April 9th, 1909, after an illness of only a few days." I may have already said this, but I belive she gave birth to Mamie G Schoonover April 4th, 1909. She was adopted by Elmer & Sallie Robinson later the same year, continuing: "Miss Belle Johnson, daughter of Elihu... was born near New Liberty church, August 24, 1872....maried B F....August 29, 1879....united with the New Liberty Baptist church....laid to rest at Koger graveyard...services conducted by Rev. J.D. Thomas of Blue Springs." Notice the difference of "New Liberty church" & "New Liberty Baptist church", are they one in the same? I have an 1880 census showing Elihu 1840, Mary 1842, Cyrus 1867, Gertrude 1872, Edgar 1874, David 1876, Susan 1879 in Fishing River, Clay, Missouri. If this is accurate then she could not have been born where we have been talking about, or did the church move, change it's name????????? 1900 Gertrude, Benj. F and son, Walter D Schoonover, Clay, Lafayette. 1900 Elihu, Mary and daughter, Susan Johnson, Van Buren, Jackson. I Googled New Liberty Baptist church or New Liberty church not sure which now. What shows up is on the east side of F highway in Lafayette county. Could this be part of the confusion? I know this is allot of stuff. I truly appreciate your patience and help. Thanks, Charlie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JohnWOBrien Surnames: BAHLMANN Classification: biography Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.jackson/6749/mb.ashx Message Board Post: "The Kansas City Star" (Missouri) Monday, May 18, 1896 PROF. BAHLMANN BADLY HURT. Prof. William F. BAHLMANN, superintendent of the Independence public schools, met with quite a serious accident Sunday afternoon. He led his horse to water and the animal jerked the strap from Prof. BAHLMANN's hand. He stooped to pick up the strap, when the horse whirled suddenly and kicked him in the head. The iron shoe struck full against Prof. BAHLMANN's forehead, and the outer table of the skull was broken. The wound is not considered fatal, and Prof. BAHLMANN is resting easily to-day. ====================================================== (I have no connection with this family but I'd appreciate knowing if you found this posting helpful.) johnobrien@kc.rr.com ====================================================== neirbo10 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BevHarris91 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.jackson/6746.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In my 2400-name database, I have about half of the names you mentioned as your ancestors. Samantha Jane Johnson married Josiah William Harris (1846-1930), son of Fleming Saunders Harris (1822-1885) and Mary Jane Slaughter (1827-1894). Both Fleming and Mary Jane Harris are buried in the Koger Cemetery. Fleming was the son of William Harris, one of the founders of Blue Springs. As you probably know, Josiah and Samantha Harris are buried in the Blue Springs Cemetery, which originally was the Harris family buried plot on their farm. Also, Fleming and Mary Jane Harris owned the land originally where both the Koger Cemetery and New Liberty Baptist Church are located, and were charter members of that church. Futhermore, Fleming was a brother to my great grandfather, John Hardin Harris, one of the founders of Lee's Summit. The LS city park is named in honor of the descendents of William Harris. Here is another Johnson connection with my Harris family. These are the ancestors of Everett and Doris Johnson, a couple probably in their 90's, who, at my last report, still live at Oak Grove, MO. His Johnson ancestors go like this: Everett Johnson < Charles Henry Johnson < James Richard Johnson < Henry Allen Johnson < David Johnson < John Larkin Johnson who married Sarah A. Harris (1788-1865), sister of the above-mentioned William Harris. John Larkin and Sarah A. Johnson came to Jackson Co., MO with the father of William & Sarah Harris, who was Reuben Harris, my ggg grandfather, for Patrick Co., VA in 1830. Reuben settled in Old Town, Independence, MO where he is buried. I have never been able to connect these two different lines of Johnsons. Perhaps you can help me. Once I met a elderly Johnson man several years ago who lived at Sni Mills, who claimed that there were two different sets of Johnsons, one at Oak Grove and another set at Pleasant Hill, who were kin, but who didn't speak to each other. Though he lived close to Oak Grove, he claimed kin only to the Johnsons at Pleasant Hill, Cass Co., MO. He was kind, but refused to try to help me. My own experience with Johnsons was at the Hazel Dell Grade School, south of Cockrell and east of Greenwood. For 3-4 years as a boy, I attended that elementary school with the younger children of Charles and Jennie Johnson, named Lovella, Lula, and Lovetta. Since this school is near the Cass Co. line, I assume that these children descended from the Pleasant Hill line. To answer your questions, yes, the New Liberty Baptist Church is still very active, but I doubt that they have church records available for its early years. The church was organized in 1860, and I have a copy of her history from 1860-1975. In 1975, I attended its anniversary celebration. My second grade teacher, Pearl Tate, had researched the church's early records for her publication of the early history of the church and she didn't find very much to include in her history booklet. No, Rev. J. D. Thomas had no official connection with NLBC. His name is not mentioned among of the list of about 40 different pastors of the Church from 1860 to 1975. Because of the strong ties of these families with Blue Springs, he might have been a pastor of a Blue Springs church. Neither did I find the name Schoonover mentioned in the church history. However, I did find the name, Schoonover, in the 1930 census for Van Buren Township in the area of the Church; Bryan Schoonover, age 23; Leona, age 20; Leona, age 2; and Bryan, age 11 months. Bev Harris Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: johnson3612 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.jackson/6746.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for your reply. I was born & raised in Oak Grove. I've lived in the area all of my life & know the area's you speak of, though I've not been to that specific cemetery. Do you know if that church is still active? I would like to find any church records available. Do you recognize the name " Rev. J.D. Thomas of Blue Springs"?, I assume he was connected to the church as he conducted the burial services for Gertie, aka "Belle" Schoonover. Regarding your kinship to Johnson's, I'll try to help if I can. My father was Charles Allen Johnson. His parents were Charleen Frances (Mabry) & Guy Harold Johnson. Guy was killed in WWII in 1945. Guy had 5 brothers, Floyd Ray, Luther Lee, Asa William Jr., Robert Vincent, & Kenneth Eugene, all Johnson's. Their parents were, Asa William Johnson, aka "Ace" & Laura Belle (Robinson). Ace always said he was 1/4 Cherokee. Asa had 2 brothers & one sister. Dave, Ed & Gertie. 90%, I believe, he had a brother Cyrus & a Sister Susan. 95%, I believe, Asa's parent's name's were Elihu R (Randolph)? Johnson & Mary (Lynch), (Lynott)? Still very much in the works, so don't hold me to it: Elihu had 3 sisters. Sarah Jane, Matilda H, & Samantha Jane. Married name's unknown. I think their parent's name were Lewis & Seneath, "Siny". Hope this helps you & I appreciate any help in return. Charlie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Several years ago a friend visited a museum in Independence and saw the surname GARLOCK in a record there. He has since forgotten the story but it was of a female Garlock who either was murdered or committed a murder. My friend is a Garlock of New York State who has collaterals who went to Missouri and he is interested to know who this female Garlock is. We don't have a time period either. I feel confident that there are people "in-the-know" out there. Deanna Smith Palatine Bridge, NY

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: P_Woolfork Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.jackson/6595.2.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello all HB1907 (same as Rita Days bill SB594) is being incorporated into HB 1692 as an omnibus bill (collection). HEARING will be 12:00 TODAY (WED)...in Jeff City. We didn't have advance knowledge of this...SO Please call and make your wishes known. Please call Rep Stevenson 573-751-7082 I personally believe the state should handle this with NO involvement from Mo Catholic Church or Lutheran Family Services. Thank you Carolyn Pooler 816-506-4313 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BevHarris91 Surnames: Johnson, Nivens, Corn, and Harris Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.jackson/6746.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Your mention of New Liberty Baptist Church of Tarsney, MO interests me. I attended that church the first 15 years of my life (1927-1942). I, too, have Harris relatives buried in the Koger Cemetery. There is a Schoonover Road near there. The first road east of the church is the Corn Road, which taken to the left (north) takes you to Koger Cemetery. The second road east of the Church off Colbern Road going south is the Gibson Road. Turning right on Gibson Road, the first road to your left is the Schoonover Road, a short dead-end road going east. The Martin Corn Cemetery is off the north side of the Schoonover Road. Neighbors of your relatives are kin to me, such as Nivens, Corns, Bensons, Browns, and even some Johnsons, but I am unable to connect with your Johnsons. (Mr.) Bev Harris Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I am looking for information about Edward Winfield DAUTEL, son of Charles DAUTEL. He was born at Hilliard, OH, about 1862. His father was Charles DAUTEL. He attended Hamilton College. He worked as a clerk for the railroad in Kansas City, MO from about 1884 to 1888. He was living in Memphis, TN in 1891. I have a photo of him dated 1893. On it, my great-great-grand-aunt Elizabeth Byron DUNWELL wrote "My Beloved". She never did marry. The story was that her true love died and she never wanted another man. Thanks for any clues. Cindy otisboat@aol.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: chocolateice Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.jackson/6748/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am related to the above person. His father and mother was Sam Langford and Rebecca Langford of Hempstead, Arkansas. Whitten died in Kansas, Missouri 1985. If you know of him or work with him,please let me know. Thanks. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: burgess_researcher Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.jackson/6746.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Found this on Genealogy Bank: Happenings of the City (News Article) Date: 1909-12-09; Paper: Kansas City Star Mayme Schoonover, 8 months old, daughter of B F Schoonover, was adopted by Elmer Robinson of Oak Grove yesterday afternoon in the Wyandotte County Probate Court. She is the youngest sister of Walter Schoonover, 11 years old, who confessed to plans to kill his father and later denied the confession and stated it was made at the request of his step-mother, Mrs Evalynn Schoonover, the present wife of B F Schoonover. Lots of other articles about the arrests of the Schoonovers and the alleged plot to kill the father. Looks like he married Evalynn right after Gertrude died and there were serious abuse and neglect charges against both B F and Evalynn. Email me at wpwivlsb@msn.com and I will download and send them to you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.