Good news........ I have found your Margaret HARBISON in the 1870 census living at home with her parents...... So far I havn't found her father Barton in the 1860 Census, however I have found her father and his sibilings and his parents in the 1850 St Francois County Missouri Census......... At least you now know that the HARBISON's were first in St Francois County and then Iron County...... Perhaps you can find John & Barton by searching the hard way, line by line and page by page........... This should keep you buzy for awhile by following thru on all these families........ You mentioned on your website that Margaret was a full blooded Blackfoot......... In my opinion I don't think so....... All the records indicate the family was White and in the earlier days the Indians usually were on a different census........ So far there isn't any DOUGLAS's in the Census records......... In the 1910 Census Gilbert SCHNELL is listed as the head of household, therefore Margaret is *his* sister-in-law......... Hope this helps, Janet 1870 Missouri Federal Census - M593-780 HARBISON BETSEY 72 F W KY IRON IRONTON P O 780 520 Page: 520-A >>>>NOTE: Probably a widow and most likely the mother of William and Jefferson....... >>>>NOTE: How the surname of HARBISON is spelled...... This was the census takers doing...... HARRISON BARTON 35 M W KY IRON IRONTON P O 780 520 >>>>NOTE: Barton is the father of a 6 year old Maggie........ HARRISON JEFFERSON 32 M W KY IRON IRONTON P O 780 519 HARRISON WILLIAM 39 M W KY IRON IRONTON P O 780 520 ----------------------------------------------------------- 1860 Missouri Federal Census HARBISON, ELIZABETH State: MO Year: 1860 County: Iron County Record Type: Federal Population Schedule Township: Kaolin Township. Page: 692 Database: MO 1860 Federal Census Index >>>>NOTE: Daughter of John J HARBISON HARBISON, JOHN J. State: MO - Year: 1860 County: Iron County - Record Type: Federal Population Schedule Township: Kaolin Township. - Page: 691 Database: MO 1860 Federal Census Index HARBISON, WILLIAM State: MO - Year: 1860 County: Iron County - Record Type: Federal Population Schedule Township: Kaolin Township. - Page: 694 Database: MO 1860 Federal Census Index ----------------------------------------- 1850 St Francis County Missouri Harbison, John State: Missouri - Year: 1850 County: St. Francis - Roll: M432_413 Township: Being 80Th Dist - Page: 179 >>>>NOTE: Here's Margaret's Grandparents and her father, etc......... ----------------------------------------- Kentucky Barren County Bybee Harbison, Betsey Matthew Spouse: Bybee, Betsey Harbison, Matthew Marriage Date: 06 Jan 1818 Kentucky Barren County Bybee Harbison, Betsy John Spouse: Bybee, Betsy Harbison, John Marriage Date: 17 Feb 1818 >>>>>NOTE: This is interesting....... It appears that Betsey Married Matthew in January and then she married John in February..... Perhaps Matthew died and most likely John and Matthew are brothers......... Missouri HARBISON, JOHN J. Spouse: DAY, HARRIET A. Marriage Date: 5 Dec 1858 County: Iron State: MO Missouri HARBISON, WILLIAM K. Spouse: GREEN, ELIZABETH Marriage Date: 26 Dec 1858 County: Iron State: MO NOTE: St Francois County is not listed in this marriage index........... ----- Original Message ----- From: "saywho" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 9:08 PM Subject: Re: [MOIRON] Douglas | Yes, that is the census I found this morning which provided a lot of | information. However, I did not see that sister-in-law in the household. I | just stopped with the children! I went back and looked at it again and, | viola, there it was. Boy, more information to sort out now. I'm not sure | that's Gennie's sister Margaret (who married a Clayton...see website just | got photos and new census lookup posted for her...her descendant is my newly | found cuz.). Maybe it is Gilbert's sister-in-law? But that wouldn't make | sense. Maybe Margaret was married twice? The CA is a good clue. I sure | would like to find an earlier census of the family. | | Thanks again. | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Janet" <[email protected]> | To: <[email protected]> | Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 10:52 PM | Subject: Re: [MOIRON] Douglas | | | > Hello......... | > | > Well, well....... finally I'm getting somewhere...... I found your Gennie | > DOUGLAS, Gennie's husband Gilbert SCHNELL and their children in the 1910 | > Census...... I'm assuming that you have access to the US Federal | > Census........ You shouldn't have any problems locating this family from | > the info listed below....... | > | > You're in for a suprise with just this one census........ William and | > Margaret's daughter Margaret, born CA 1890 is also living in this house | and | > has a different married name then what you have....... | > | > Janet | > | > Gilbert L. Schnell found in: | > Census Microfilm Records: Missouri, 1910 | > Age: 32 | > Gender: M | > Race: W | > Birthplace: IL | > State: Missouri | > County: ST LOUIS | > Locale: 17-WD ST LOUIS | > Series: T624 | > Roll: 819 | > Part: 2 | > Page: 148A | > E.D.: 271 | > Sheet: 5-A | > Lines: 2 thru 9 | > Printed Page No.: 148-A | > >>>>NOTE: Margaret, Gennie's sister, is living here with the last name of | > BELCHER (sp?) and with her child Mable BELCHER, 9/12 months old....... | The | > census does say that Margaret is married, however there is not any husband | > listed....... | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "saywho" <[email protected]> | > To: <[email protected]> | > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 6:47 PM | > Subject: [MOIRON] Douglas | > | > | > | Here's my new link. I'm working on the pages, they look a little | better. | > I | > | deleted the old page because I was organizing them in a different way. | > | | > | http://treadways.homestead.com/index.html | > | | > | Going to work on uploading photos shortly. | > | | > | My newly found cousin submitted some information since my last posting. | > So | > | there is new information uploaded and also a better order of the | children. | > | | > | She also told me that her records indicate that Gennie and Clifford were | > | born out of wedlock by Margaret. Maybe folks who are reporting to me | are | > | getting their information mixed up as some of them are reporting from | > | memory. | > | | > | None of this information is verified, except that I found Lucille and | > | Gilbert's marriage certificate, which shows they both were from | Caledonia, | > | and also Jessie Mae's birth certificate. | > | | > | Thanks so much for everyone who has helped me. It never ceases to amaze | > me | > | how folks help others just because they enjoy it. I've been trying to | > | volunteer to look-up in my own city, but haven't found many needy people | > as | > | of yet. I just want to complete the circle. If you've helped me, may | it | > | come back to you full circle! | > | | > | | > | > | > | > ==== MOIRON Mailing List ==== | > HERMES Surname List coordinator | > WENSTROM Surname List coordinator | > | > ============================== | > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, | go to: | > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 | > | | | ==== MOIRON Mailing List ==== | Margie Campbell | [email protected] | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |

If Margaret did not claim to be indian, she would be listed as white. I have seen this many times. Indians were not allowed to own land, etc.. so many, if not most did not claim their heritage. Marge > -----Original Message----- > From: Janet [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 8:04 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MOIRON] HARBISON > > > Good news........ > > I have found your Margaret HARBISON in the 1870 census living at home with > her parents...... So far I havn't found her father Barton in the 1860 > Census, however I have found her father and his sibilings and his > parents in > the 1850 St Francois County Missouri Census......... At least > you now know > that the HARBISON's were first in St Francois County and then Iron > County...... Perhaps you can find John & Barton by searching the > hard way, > line by line and page by page........... This should keep you buzy for > awhile by following thru on all these families........ > > You mentioned on your website that Margaret was a full blooded > Blackfoot......... In my opinion I don't think so....... All the records > indicate the family was White and in the earlier days the Indians usually > were on a different census........ > > So far there isn't any DOUGLAS's in the Census records......... > > In the 1910 Census Gilbert SCHNELL is listed as the head of household, > therefore Margaret is *his* sister-in-law......... > > Hope this helps, > Janet > > 1870 Missouri Federal Census - M593-780 > HARBISON BETSEY 72 F W KY IRON > IRONTON P O 780 520 > Page: 520-A > >>>>NOTE: Probably a widow and most likely the mother of William and > Jefferson....... > > >>>>NOTE: How the surname of HARBISON is spelled...... This was > the census > takers doing...... > HARRISON BARTON 35 M W KY IRON > IRONTON P O 780 520 > >>>>NOTE: Barton is the father of a 6 year old Maggie........ > > HARRISON JEFFERSON 32 M W KY IRON > IRONTON P O 780 519 > > HARRISON WILLIAM 39 M W KY IRON > IRONTON P O 780 520 > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > 1860 Missouri Federal Census > HARBISON, ELIZABETH > State: MO Year: 1860 > County: Iron County Record Type: Federal Population Schedule > Township: Kaolin Township. Page: 692 > Database: MO 1860 Federal Census Index > >>>>NOTE: Daughter of John J HARBISON > > HARBISON, JOHN J. > State: MO - Year: 1860 > County: Iron County - Record Type: Federal Population Schedule > Township: Kaolin Township. - Page: 691 > Database: MO 1860 Federal Census Index > > HARBISON, WILLIAM > State: MO - Year: 1860 > County: Iron County - Record Type: Federal Population Schedule > Township: Kaolin Township. - Page: 694 > Database: MO 1860 Federal Census Index > ----------------------------------------- > > 1850 St Francis County Missouri > Harbison, John > State: Missouri - Year: 1850 > County: St. Francis - Roll: M432_413 > Township: Being 80Th Dist - Page: 179 > >>>>NOTE: Here's Margaret's Grandparents and her father, etc......... > ----------------------------------------- > > Kentucky > Barren County > Bybee Harbison, Betsey Matthew > Spouse: Bybee, Betsey > Harbison, Matthew Marriage Date: 06 Jan 1818 > > Kentucky > Barren County > Bybee Harbison, Betsy John > Spouse: Bybee, Betsy > Harbison, John Marriage Date: 17 Feb 1818 > >>>>>NOTE: This is interesting....... It appears that Betsey Married > Matthew in January and then she married John in February..... Perhaps > Matthew died and most likely John and Matthew are brothers......... > > Missouri > HARBISON, JOHN J. > Spouse: DAY, HARRIET A. Marriage Date: 5 Dec 1858 > County: Iron State: MO > > Missouri > HARBISON, WILLIAM K. > Spouse: GREEN, ELIZABETH Marriage Date: 26 Dec 1858 > County: Iron State: MO > > NOTE: St Francois County is not listed in this marriage index........... > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "saywho" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 9:08 PM > Subject: Re: [MOIRON] Douglas > > > | Yes, that is the census I found this morning which provided a lot of > | information. However, I did not see that sister-in-law in the > household. > I > | just stopped with the children! I went back and looked at it again and, > | viola, there it was. Boy, more information to sort out now. > I'm not sure > | that's Gennie's sister Margaret (who married a Clayton...see > website just > | got photos and new census lookup posted for her...her descendant is my > newly > | found cuz.). Maybe it is Gilbert's sister-in-law? But that > wouldn't make > | sense. Maybe Margaret was married twice? The CA is a good > clue. I sure > | would like to find an earlier census of the family. > | > | Thanks again. > | > | ----- Original Message ----- > | From: "Janet" <[email protected]> > | To: <[email protected]> > | Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 10:52 PM > | Subject: Re: [MOIRON] Douglas > | > | > | > Hello......... > | > > | > Well, well....... finally I'm getting somewhere...... I found your > Gennie > | > DOUGLAS, Gennie's husband Gilbert SCHNELL and their children > in the 1910 > | > Census...... I'm assuming that you have access to the US Federal > | > Census........ You shouldn't have any problems locating this family > from > | > the info listed below....... > | > > | > You're in for a suprise with just this one census........ William and > | > Margaret's daughter Margaret, born CA 1890 is also living in > this house > | and > | > has a different married name then what you have....... > | > > | > Janet > | > > | > Gilbert L. Schnell found in: > | > Census Microfilm Records: Missouri, 1910 > | > Age: 32 > | > Gender: M > | > Race: W > | > Birthplace: IL > | > State: Missouri > | > County: ST LOUIS > | > Locale: 17-WD ST LOUIS > | > Series: T624 > | > Roll: 819 > | > Part: 2 > | > Page: 148A > | > E.D.: 271 > | > Sheet: 5-A > | > Lines: 2 thru 9 > | > Printed Page No.: 148-A > | > >>>>NOTE: Margaret, Gennie's sister, is living here with the > last name > of > | > BELCHER (sp?) and with her child Mable BELCHER, 9/12 months old....... > | The > | > census does say that Margaret is married, however there is not any > husband > | > listed....... > | > > | > ----- Original Message ----- > | > From: "saywho" <[email protected]> > | > To: <[email protected]> > | > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 6:47 PM > | > Subject: [MOIRON] Douglas > | > > | > > | > | Here's my new link. I'm working on the pages, they look a little > | better. > | > I > | > | deleted the old page because I was organizing them in a > different way. > | > | > | > | http://treadways.homestead.com/index.html > | > | > | > | Going to work on uploading photos shortly. > | > | > | > | My newly found cousin submitted some information since my last > posting. > | > So > | > | there is new information uploaded and also a better order of the > | children. > | > | > | > | She also told me that her records indicate that Gennie and Clifford > were > | > | born out of wedlock by Margaret. Maybe folks who are > reporting to me > | are > | > | getting their information mixed up as some of them are > reporting from > | > | memory. > | > | > | > | None of this information is verified, except that I found > Lucille and > | > | Gilbert's marriage certificate, which shows they both were from > | Caledonia, > | > | and also Jessie Mae's birth certificate. > | > | > | > | Thanks so much for everyone who has helped me. It never ceases to > amaze > | > me > | > | how folks help others just because they enjoy it. I've > been trying to > | > | volunteer to look-up in my own city, but haven't found many needy > people > | > as > | > | of yet. I just want to complete the circle. If you've > helped me, may > | it > | > | come back to you full circle! > | > | > | > | > | > > | > > | > > | > ==== MOIRON Mailing List ==== > | > HERMES Surname List coordinator > | > WENSTROM Surname List coordinator > | > > | > ============================== > | > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > | go to: > | > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > | > > | > | > | ==== MOIRON Mailing List ==== > | Margie Campbell > | [email protected] > | > | ============================== > | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > genealogy records, > go to: > | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > | > > > > ==== MOIRON Mailing List ==== > HERMES Surname List coordinator > WENSTROM Surname List coordinator > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >