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    1. [MOIRON] Reply to Feb 2007: Peter Hartmann & Catherine Hiltz --- Graniteville, MO - SHEA

    3. Rootsweb message board is not accepting a reply to this post. This was a gatewayed message to the MOIRON list back in Feb 2007. I've tried several times without success; no problem replying to other queries... I'm going to try the mailing list and if Claire w/ the Hartmann query is also a subscriber to this list, will you please let me know you've rec'd this? Thanks, Kay MehdiFakhar@aol.com Claire - I filed this reply back in Feb planning to dig around a bit more for 'Bertie' before I posted it and forgot to send it. Hopefully this info will still be useful to you. -Kay, FL ----------------------------- Hartman FAMILY in 1870: 1870 Township 34 Range 3 East, Iron, MO Peter Hartman abt 1828 Bavaria/Bayern White Male Cathariene Hartman abt 1833 Bavaria/Bayern White Female Sophia Hartman abt 1852 Louisiana White Female Caroline Hartman abt 1854 MO White Female Henry Hartman abt 1861 MO White Male Mary Hartman abt 1863 MO White Female Bertie Hartman abt 1865 MO White Female Louisa Hartman abt 1867 MO White Female ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - Census Records: ----John R---- Possibly your John? The birth year is slightly off, but the child, John has the middle initial of R: 1900 Iron, Iron, MO John Hartman abt 1873 MO White Head Katie Hartman abt 1876 MO White Wife John R Hartman abt 1898 MO White Son James E Hartman abt 1898 MO White Son Julius L Hartman abt 1896 MO White Son -----Henry------ 1900 Iron, Iron, MO - at least 12 kids Henry Hartman abt 1861 MO White Head Annie Hartman abt 1865 MO White Wife Mary Hartman abt 1884 MO White Daughter Teresa Hartman abt 1886 MO White Daughter Bertha Hartman abt 1888 MO White Daughter Clara Hartman abt 1890 MO White Daughter Leona Hartman abt 1891 MO White Daughter Alfreda Hartman abt 1893 MO White Daughter Charles Hartman abt 1894 MO White Son Emma Hartman abt 1895 MO White Daughter Violet Hartman abt 1898 MO White Daughter May Hartman abt 1900 MO White Daughter 1910 Iron, Iron, MO Henry Hartman abt 1860 MO Head Annie Hartman abt 1866MO Wife Leonia Hartman abt 1891MO Daughter Alfredia Hartman abt 1893MO Daughter Charley Hartman abt 1894MO Son Emma Hartman abt 1897MO Daughter Violet Hartman abt 1898MO Daughter Maybell Hartman abt 1900MO Daughter Willie Hartman abt 1902MO Son Rupart Hartman abt 1905MO Son ----Sophia----- 1900 Iron, Iron, MO; Sophia Hartmann: Olsen 48/ abt 1852 Louisiana Spouse's name: John age 54 1910 Granite Ward 3, Madison, Illinois Johny Olson 61 Sophia Olson 58 Lousiana 1920 Granite Ward 3, Madison, Illinois John Olson 24 (should be 74) Sophia Olson 67 1930 Iron, Iron, MO; John Olson 86 Sofie Olson 76 Trivia: In 1930, there are twelve [12] listings of John Olson w/ wife Sophia < yikes> ----Catharine---- see John Kerwen/Bertie Hartmann marriage below Possibly: 1910 Arcadia, Iron, Missouri John A Kerwin 53/1857 MA IRE IRE Bertha Kerwin 43/1867 MO GER GER ----Louisa Shea--- Census records sent previously.... Burials: MIDDLEBROOK CEMETERY, Iron Co., MO Located in Middlebrook, Mo., Highway W. SHEA, James 1858 - 1940 SHEA, Mamie R. 1865 - 1939 SHEA, Michael F. 1859 - 1925 SHEA, Louisa 1868 - 1959 SHEA, Wm. 1890 - 1940 SHEA, Michael 24 June 1847 - 23 Oct 1904 SHEA, Mary A. 20 Sept 1858 - 17 Feb 1918 HARTMANN, Peter 23 Aug 1828 - 11 Dec 1874 HARTMANN, Mary 13 June 1863 - 22 March 1883 HARTMANN, Catherine 14 Dec 1832 - 9 July 1910 w/o Peter HARTMANN, John R. 19 June 1870 - 15 May 1918 KERCHNER, Matthew 3 March 1863 - 2 Sept 1889 KERCHNER, Frank 15 March 1866 - 22 Dec 1902 KERCHNER, Lawrence 23 Aug 1823 - 1 Sept 1902 born in Fridenburg, Baden. KERCHNER, Agatha Speidel 11 Dwec 1829 - 1 Jan 1910 born in Hohenzoller,Germ. KIRCHNER, Adolph 4 Aug 1818 - 4 Apr 1889 KERCHNER, Edumnd 3 Jan 1856 - 19 June 1927 KARCHER, Adaline 16 Jan 1850 - 29 March 1886 ARCADIA VALLEY MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY, Iron Co., MO Located on the outskirts of Ironton, MO SHEA, Michael J. burial 3-29-1963 -------------------------------------- MIDDLEBROOK CEMETERY, Iron Co., MO Located in Middlebrook, Mo., Highway W. Olson, John V. 1843 - 1930 OLSON, Sophia 1852 - 1939 ------------------------------------------ Marriages: p21 Michael Shea of Graniteville, Iron Co., Mo. and Louisa Hartmann of Graniteville, Iron Co., Mo.; married on 3 October 1889 by H. H. O'Reilly, Priest p105 Henry Hartman of Iron Co., Mo. and Anna Backoff of Pilot Knob, Iron Co., Mo.; married on 9 June 1883; p 138 Adolph Kirchner and Mrs. Catharina Hils Hortman; married on 02-02-1880 by Franz Dinger Possibly 'Bertie'?: p141 John A. Kirwen of Graniteville, Iron Co. Mo. over 21; Miss Bertha Hartmann of Graniteville, Iron Co., Mo. over 18; 13 September 1883 license; married on 13 September 1883 by A. D. Koen, JP at Farmington, St. Francois Co., Mo. ---------------------- Other Hartman marriages in Iron County: p185 Caven L. Hartman and Miss L. R. Edmunds; married on 8 December 1867 by James C. Johnson [HARTMAN, Carlin Thomnas 9 Aug 1925 - 3 Jan 1926 HARTMAN, Charles Jr. 9 Aug 1925 -18 Dec 1942] p80 Andreas Hartman of Pilot Knob, Iron Co., Mo. and Mary Breitenstein of Pilot Knob, Iron Co., Mo.; married on 25 January 1883; p289 Wayne A. Logan of Belleview, Iron Co., Mo. and Mary M. Hartman of Belleview, Iron Co., Mo.; married on 4 October 1886; p140 Auburn Edmonds of Belleview, Iron Co., Mo. and Sally Hartman of Belleview, Iron Co., Mo. ; married on 1 December 1891 by F. M. Shoush, M. G. p247 George Fitzpatrick of Belleview, Iron Co., Mo. and Vianna Black of Belleview, Iron Co., Mo.; married on 22 November 1893 by Franz Dinger, Probate Judge; bride's guardian D. H. Hartman p275 John H. Turner of Belleview, Iron Co., Mo. and Rose E. Hartman of Belleview, Iron Co., Mo.; married on 17 October 1894 by J. A. Russell, M. G. p354 David H. Hartman of Belleview, Iron Co., Mo. and Sarah C. Goggin of Belleview, Iron Co., Mo.; married on 25 August 1896 by W. G. Fairchild, J. P. p41 E. W. Hartman of Belleview, Iron Co., Mo. and Ella Gallaher of Belleview, Iron Co., Mo.; married on 4 January 1900 by W. Fairchild; son of D. H. Hartman; daughter of Mrs. M. E. Gallaher p2 William D. Hartman of Belleview, Iron Co., Mo. and Mrs. Ella Hartman of Belleview, Iron Co., Mo.; married on 27 November 1906 by J. G. Reynolds, M. G. p167 George S. Hartman of Ballwin, St. Louis Co., Mo. and Annie L. Lotz of Iron Co., Mo.; married on 9 March 1910 by J. H. Calvert, M. G. p368 Lacey Chronister of Shepherd, Iron Co., Mo. and Minnie Hartman of Belleview, Iron Co., Mo.; married on 15 August 1914 by J. M. Hawkins, M. G.; daughter of Sarah Hartman ----- There were numerous Hartmann's and this single Kirchner listed in Franklin Co. My guess is that several of these in Franklin County could be the next generation (Henry's children?). The URL address for the marriage abstracts website: www.vienici.com/abmomarr.html p134 Mr. Henry Kirchner of St. Clare Co., Illinois and Mrs. Caroline Wagner of Franklin Co., Mo.; married on 5 July 1868 by Henry Meyer, PG at Franklin Co., Mo.; witnesses: Louis Wagner, Kate Heineman, Fr. Schelp Other Hartman Census Records in Iron Co.: 1900 Arcadia, Iron, MO Wm Bopp 33 Mary A Bopp 30 Oliver Bopp 10 Elmer Bopp 8 Mildred Bopp 7 Herbert Bopp 5 George Hartman abt 1872 MO WhiteBoarder 1900 Arcadia, Iron, MO [Living alone] Annie M Hartmann abt 1828 Germany White Head 1900 Iron, Iron, MO David Hartman abt 1841 Ohio White Head Sarah C Hartman abt 1856 MO White Wife Minnie Hartman abt 1898 MO White Daughter 1900 Iron, Iron, MO Eben Hartman abt 1880 MO White Head Ella Hartman abt 1883 MO White Wife 1900 Iron, Iron, MO John G Hartman abt 1864 Iowa White Head Emily S Hartman abt 1868 MO White Wife William Hartman abt 1882 MO White Son Charles Hartman abt 1884 MO White Son Ollie Hartman abt 1886 MO White Son George Hartman abt 1888 MO White Son Alice Hartman abt 1890 MO White Daughter Annie Hartman abt 1892 MO White Daughter Roy Hartman abt 1896 MO White Son Phillip Hartman abt 1900 MO White Son ------------- 1910 Iron, Iron, MO David A Hartman abt 1841Ohio Head Sarah C Hartman abt 1855MO Wife Minna Hartman abt 1899MO Daughter 1910 Iron, Iron, MO John Lotz 59 head Annie L Harton/Hardman 31 daughter John B Harton/Hardman 21 son Gladys L Harton/Hardman 18 daughter George Hartman 37 MO Son in Law Marriage from above's list: p167 George S. Hartman of Ballwin, St. Louis Co., Mo. and Annie L. Lotz of Iron Co., Mo.; married on 9 March 1910 by J. H. Calvert, M. G.} Other Burials: Belleview Cemetery HARTMAN, E. L. 26 Sept 1845 - 28 Dec 1895 HARTMAN, David 12 Jan 1841 - 13 March 1914 HARTMAN, Sarah C. 7 Oct 18435 - 18 Jan 1916 HARTMAN, E. W. 24 Apr 1880 - 19Aug 1902 Annapolis Cemetery - Iron Co. HARTMAN, Carlin Thomas 9 Aug 1925 - 3 Jan 1926 HARTMAN, Charles Jr. 9 Aug 1925 -18 Dec 1942 Catholic Church Cemetery - near Pilot Knob BACKOF, Justine DOD 29 Jan 1907 - age 85yr b. Hessen, Germ. BACKOF, Wm. DOD 27 July 1902 -age 79yr 22d b. Baden, Germ. BACKOF, Robert G. 19 Sept 1883 - 2 Jan 1906 BACKOF, Robert 5 Nov 1855 - 2 Apr 1902 BACKOF, Clarence C. 30 June 1895 - 4 June 1897 s/o R & A BACKOF, Clara M. 29 June 1888 - 25 June 1889 c/o R & A BACKOF, Frank 19 Sept 1886 - 28 Feb 1887 ---------------------------------------- I didn't find Henry Hartman/Harmann's death or burial, but wanted to make certain you knew about this site for your other surnames: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mackley/Obit_Surname_Image_Pages/Obit _Surnames_H/Obit_Surname_List_Page_HA_5.htm#Hartmann HA_000913 Hartman Amelia Funk - - Warncke ? HA_000914 Hartman Bessie Pearl - - Larkin HA_000917 Hartman Diane Phyllis - - Eckhoff HA_001506 Hartman Edna - - - Sabastian HA_000921 Hartman Fred E. - Rev. - HA_000922 Hartman Genevieve - - - Boyce HA_001504 Hartman Harold J - - - HA_000918 Hartman Hazel - - - Replogle HA_001512 Hartman Keith C - - - HA_000925 Hartman Margaret - - - McCormack HA_000920 Hartman Roy E. - - - HA_000919 Hartman Sallie Ruth - - Beard HA_000924 Hartman Thomas Frank - - - HA_000923 Hartman Willard F. - - - HA_000931 Hartmann Carolyn L. - - Kaelin HA_001513 Hartmann Helen Gould - - Fitzgerrell ----------------------------------------------------------------- Your List: Peter Hartmann & Catherine Hiltz Adolph Kirchner and Mrs. Catharina Hils Hortman; married on 02-02-1880 see Adolph's death above (1889) Children: Q: Sophia b. 1852 in Louisiana...m. ?....d.? A:Sophia Hartmann 1852: m. John Olson/Olsen; d.[Middlebrook Cem. Iron Co.- 1939] Q/ACaroline - done Q: Henry..... b. 2/27/1861... need date of death/burial location...m. Anna Backhoff 06/09/1883 Q/A. Mary b. 1863...d. 1883 both in Graniteville, MO Q. Catherine (Bertie) Hartmann 1865: marriage/death? A.-see above Q: Louisa....b. 04/11/1868 ....m. Michael F. Shea 10/03/1889 in Graniteville...d.? A: Louisa Shea 1868 - d [below-Middlebrook Cem. Iron Co. 1959] Q. John R. b. 6/19/1870....m. Annie ? d. may 1918 in Texas or Graniteville, MO....Buried 5/18/1918 in Middlebrook Cemetery Graniteville, MO A: - Are you certain the spouse is named Annie? - see above 1900 census with Katie... Possibly your John/Anna?: p410 John Hartmann of Lyon Twp., Franklin Co., Mo. over 21; Anna L. Fechtler of Lyon Twp., Franklin Co., Mo. over 18; 27 January 1894 license; married on 2 February 1894 by Rev. Reinhold G. Zobel, Evangel Luther Minister at Jeffriesburgh, Franklin Co., Mo. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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