This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Quigley, Ringer Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.iron/2388.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for going to so much trouble on my behalf. I was told by family members that my Great Grandfather William Quigley was born in Ireland (County Cork) and came to the United States as a young man. He was running from trouble. He married Menetta Bell Ringer. I don't know when or where. She supposedly was born in Cape Girardieu, Missouri but I have no proof other than what is stated on my Grandmother's birth certificate. It was also told to me by my Dad that Menetta's parents were both from Germany. My grandmother said that two children were born before her that died before they were two years old. My Grandmother went by Bedelia Caroline but I found her birth certificate saying her name was Bridgit. Bedelia's daughter, my aunt told me that Bedelia said that Bridgit and Bedelia meant the same in Irish. I did find that on some site too. My Grandmother Bedelia always said she was born in Cape Girardeau, MO but I found that she was born in Pilot Knob, Missouri. Bridgit C. Quigley b. July 10, 1887 in Pilot Knob, Missouri. She is the 5th child born to William Quigley, age 39 and born in Ireland. He is a miner. His wife Menetta Ringer is 28 and she was born in Cape Girardeau, MO. William and Menetta had two other living children at the time of my Grandmother Bedelia's birth: William M. Quigley b. Cripple Creek, CO March 2, 1884 (I personally don't think he was born in Cripple Creek.) Menetta (called Nettie) was born in Cape Girardeau, Mo. June 2, 1885. I have not verified William and Nettie's birth place, only by their family members say so. I was given the following information online: John Alber Undertaking Business, Ironton, Mo. 1882:September 19 - William for his son, John age 18 months, summer complaint, buried at iron Mountain. A lady named Beetye on Rootsweb told me that there is an Iron Mountain Cemetery that lists a John Quigley being buried there. The date given is Sept. 19, 1882. Listing indicates he is the son of William. I found a Mena Ringer as the daughter of Alfred Ringer in the St. Louis County, Missouri census in 1870. Mena is 12. Alfred and his wife are from Wurtenberg. That would have Mena born about 1856. I have found that dates and ages are not always accurate in census records. Supposedly Great Grandpa William Quigley died in 1893 in the Cripple Creek, Colorado area. He was a miner and a member of the Modern Woodsmen. This again is information handed down through the family. Menetta Quigley shows up in the Altman, Colorado City Directory: Quigley, Minaty W. widow of William es n of Baldwin ave. Minatz Quigley marries Bennard (Should be Bernard) Herbst July 20, 1897. The marriage is registered in El Paso, County. In the 1900 City Directory for Altman, Colorado it says: Quigley Hall (Ben Herbst) e. Baldwin I recently found an article in the Publication online: Morning Times (Cripple Creek, El Paso County); Date:1899 Feb 03 Friday; Section:Front page; Page Number: 1 Died in Altman, Mrs. Ben Herbst, age 30 years, died at her home after a lingering attack of pneumonai. The deceased leaves four small children. No arrangements have yet been made. I think the age is wrong or I am having trouble reading the old paper.) In two following articles, her funeral was held at a Catholic church at Altman. Father Carr officiated and she was buried in Mt. Pisgah cemetery. There is no record of her grave at Mt. Pisgah so she must be in an unmarked grave. Her infant child followed several days later dieing of pneumonia. This must have been a child by Ben Herbst. Grandma always thought her mother died in childbirth. I do not know any names of family members prior to William and Menetta (Mena, Minnie, Minatz). Grandma thought that William might have had a brother named Peter and a sister Bridgit. She just remembered those names. I wish I had been more interested in knowing about my Grandma and her youth. She died in 1975. I am going to run off the information you gave me and study it more thouroughly. I always felt that the family in the Pilot Knob, 1880 census was my Great Grandfather. I had heard from someone that men joined the service in ironton, near Pilot Knob. I thought there was a possibility that since there is a James McCue in that household along with a William Quigley in Arkansas, that they could be the same people. I do not know when the census was enumerated for those areas. Thank you again for going to such depths to help me. I so appreciate your kindness. Eellitta russetred@msn.com