This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.iron/1250.1.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Cindy and Gary, I have a JAKE SUTTON, second husband of Cynthia Eliza Brewer. I have her first husband as WILLIAM T. LEE, and her third husband as CHARLES A. HALL. Cynthia was born 1870. I do not have parents of JAKE SUTTON listed, and I am also continuing to research this man. My family tree, "The Webs We Weave" is posted on Tribal Pages. The Url is as follows: http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/jdwafford The Password needed to view my site is my maiden name: Nash Cindy, I know that you have been there before, but I have added many family members in the past month or so. Please take another look. Merry Christmas To All, Joyce Nash - Wafford

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SUTTON and families Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.iron/1250.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Can you and will you please send me names of children of these couples? Also, I have Elizabeth Jane Sutton married to WILLIAM H. MEYERS on June 2, 1844. Was your JOHN QUINCY SHARP a first or second husband, and do you have a marriage date for them? My family tree website "The Webs We Weave" is: http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/jdwafford The Password needed to view "The Webs We Weave", is my maiden name: Nash I would love to have all information that you will share with me on OLIVER and family, as well as any family pictures that you can send. I do have the Family Tree Maker program on my pc, and you may send a PDF File or a GEDCOM, if you would like. My email address is as follows: ograndma@bmi.net Please, by all means, if you see anything that needs a correction or addition on our SUTTON family, let me know so that I may correct it. My information has came from many sources, family members, other websites, census records, and any place else that I could find it, so I do not swear that all is correct without a doubt. I continue to research and add constantly. Thank you, Merry Christmas, Joyce

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: miller Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.iron/1132.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi I have a george miller that was married to a hamby. Is this the same george? If you have any information regarding other wives, i would appreciate any information you would like to share. Please email me privately..Thanks Lisa Rees dmtmrees@bellsouth.net

Lisa, Again, please take a look at my website, "The Webs We Weave". I also have many MILLER family members listed. Could any of the 3 of my George Miller(s) belong to you? Url was sent in last message. http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/jdwafford Password needed to view my website is my maiden name: Nash Merry Christmas, Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <MOIRON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [MOIRON] Looking for marriage info on Ada ELLIS Toppins White > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: toppins > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.iron/1087.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Is this Toppins related to a Ethyl Toppins? She was married to my > grandfather, RObert J miller. If so, could yo email me at > dmtmrees@bellsouth.net > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOIRON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Merry Christmas To All, Hi Lisa and Everyone else who is interested in this SUTTON family, I have your Nathaniel "Nathan" Sutton, Sr. and Cynthia Amanda Brown in my family. Nathan and Cynthia are the parents of nine children. As you will see on my website, I have spouses for some of these children listed, and children for Sarah Sutton, daughter of Nathan and Cynthia. Please take a look at my family tree website on Tribal Pages, which I have titled "The Webs We Weave". I have many many family members (along with my SUTTON family) from Iron County listed on my site. The Url is: http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/jdwafford The Password needed to view my website is my maiden name: Nash I would be very happy as well to recieve any information that you or anyone else can send me regarding the children of this couple and their families, or any other Iron County family members. Also at the same time, please feel free to send any additions and or corrections that need to be put on my site. God Bless All, Merry Christmas and Happy New Years, Joyce Nash - Wafford "The Webs We Weave" ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <MOIRON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [MOIRON] Nathan Sutton & Cynthia Amanda Brown > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: sutton > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.iron/1250.1.2/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Hi, my 3rd great grandfather is Nathan Sutton. I would like your > information on your grandparents, Oliver Sutton, if you dont mind. I have > him in my records but nothing on his children. Thanks so much... my > email is dmtmrees@bellsouth.net > > thanks, lisa > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOIRON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: miller Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.iron/280.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Is this George W Miller that was also married to Cynthia Ann sharp? If so, please email me privately at dmtmrees@bellsouth.net Thanks so much. Lisa Rees

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: sutton Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.iron/1250.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, my 3rd great grandfather is Nathan Sutton. I would like your information on your grandparents, Oliver Sutton, if you dont mind. I have him in my records but nothing on his children. Thanks so much... my email is dmtmrees@bellsouth.net thanks, lisa

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: toppins Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.iron/1087.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Is this Toppins related to a Ethyl Toppins? She was married to my grandfather, RObert J miller. If so, could yo email me at dmtmrees@bellsouth.net

Just a quick notice, that we will be having Genealogy Night at the Park Hills Library (St. Fran. Co.), this coming Monday, Dec. 18th, from 6p to 8p. Everyone is welcome! Sue

Hi... not sure..do you want me to check the history of se mo? Marge Campbell margecam52@valornet.com Photos of our family & critters (quilts too) http://community.webshots.com/user/margecam52 ________________________________ From: NSchaub [mailto:NSchaub@bex.net] Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 3:33 PM To: moiron-bounces@rootsweb.com Subject: In the history would there be a Rev. Lewis D H Abrams? He wwas on the 1860 census. He was I tthink a Primitive Baptist minister. Any help would be apprecciated. Norma

Joan, I put in a request yesterday to the Western Manuscripts at Rolla, for the microfilm of the Bethel Association dating back to 1816. I'm also in the process of obtaining the minutes of the Cape Girardeau association. The old Bethel log church is being rebuilt right now, may be nearly done; and a flatboat trip is underway right now on the Ohio river, in honor of early members and ministers there. I hope to be on board one day next week. Robert On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 08:19:40 -0800 (PST) jonnie horton <a300plus@yahoo.com> writes: > here is a website that i found which may be of some intrest to those > of you seekink the bethel assocation primative baptists > http://www.baptistparchments.org if this helps at all it is a > pleasure to help out thanks. joan > > --------------------------------- > Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful > email and get things done faster. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOIRON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

here is a website that i found which may be of some intrest to those of you seekink the bethel assocation primative baptists http://www.baptistparchments.org if this helps at all it is a pleasure to help out thanks. joan --------------------------------- Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster.

Hi, thank you for the reply. I'm on this forum but haven't learned how to post on message boards. Slow learner, I guess, and not into genealogy, just church history research. But the two are often inter-related. I have several more resources for information, so will continue checking, and if I find anything that might be of help to others, will post it on here. Thanks, everyone. Robert

Thanks Robert..we all would appreciate that... Me especially if you find note of any Campbell, Sutton, Ketcherside, Mayberry's of any spelling... Marge Campbell margecam52@valornet.com Photos of our family & critters (quilts too) http://community.webshots.com/user/margecam52 -----Original Message----- From: moiron-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:moiron-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert L. Webb Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 9:02 PM To: moiron@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MOIRON] 19th century churches Hi, thank you for the reply. I'm on this forum but haven't learned how to post on message boards. Slow learner, I guess, and not into genealogy, just church history research. But the two are often inter-related. I have several more resources for information, so will continue checking, and if I find anything that might be of help to others, will post it on here. Thanks, everyone. Robert ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOIRON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

He is a member of the list, not the message boards. His notes are NOT going to the message board. I am in middle of the end of several quilts that have to be done by next week...so no time to move them there...I will once done... Copy & paste... Marge -----Original Message----- From: moiron-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:moiron-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MehdiFakhar@aol.com Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 8:04 PM To: moiron@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MOIRON] 19th century churches- Locust Grove Robert - Marge, This isn't much help, but I emailed my uncle, who is a Baptist minister in Iron County, regarding the question on 'Primitive Baptist' churches in Iron County during 1884 and 1885. [Wolf Creek and Leatherwood/ Bethel Association]. This was his reply: > I'm not familiar with either of the associations or the churches. > There is a Primitive Baptist Church on 72 highway between Ironton and > Fredricktown and that may be one of them. Primitive Baptist are very > much different than most other Baptists and there are very few around > here. In fact that one is the only one I know of. Now that Marge has sent a bit more info, I will see if anything she's found may help him recall something.... What I'm picking up from Marge's information is that: Concord Association existed in 1858 and by 1874, grew to 16 churches, and by 1920 grew to 21 churches - which (as of 1912 county boundaries) were located in Franklin and Reynolds counties. Bethel Association was continually sending off groups of churches for the establishment of other associations. {This really doesn't offer much information....} Central MO Association was established in 1860 and was made up of a group of churches from Iron County, including Big Creek Church, which was the oldest established church of the Black River Association formed in May 1845. I'm confused - did I miss an earlier note about Locust Grove? This is the first I've seen it mentioned and based on this info, it doesn't seem like it was necessarily part of the Bethel Association. I know earlier Marge mentioned neither Leatherwood or Wolf Creek were specifically mentioned in this book. Also Marge, is Robert part of the list, or do replies need to be sent directly to him? I didn't notice his posting on the Iron County message board, or would have also replied there. -Kay, FL > Subj: Re: [MOIRON] 19th century churches- Locust Grove > Date: 12/6/2006 10:59:28 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: margecam@lmcam1.com > > The History of SE MO by Douglass does mention Locust Grove church, but > just a mention: > Page 475: > In 1858, the Concord Association met at Pilgrims Rest church and > received the following new churches: New Prospect, Pleasant Exchange > (Ellis Campbell switched to this church), Mount Gilead and Sugar Tree Grove. The ministers at this meeting were Isaac Lane, > R. Seal and E. Warren; Isaac > Lane was moderator again and Thomas Dickson was chosen clerk. The next > year's meeting met at Big Creek church in Iron county, one other > organization was added, this being Highland church. The third annual > meeting was with Bethlehem church in Reynolds county in 1870. > At this time there were only 6 churches in the association, but the > next year, 1871, Denning Chapel, Pleasant Valley, LOCUST GROVE, White > Oak Grove, Black Oak Grove and Friendship churches were received. The > meeting was held at Pleasant Exchange in Reynolds county; Samuel S Beard was moderator. In > 1874 the association consisted of 16 churches with a membership of 584 > and 6 > ordained ministers. > The territory of these churches is now in Franklin and Reynolds > counties (book written in 1912). The association had 21 churches in 1910 with a m > embership of 1,468. The churches were: Centreville, 95; Dickens > Valley, 90; Lesterville, 136; Pine Dale ___; Bethany, 34; Bethlehem, > 85; New Hope, 20; Dry Valley, 47; Oak Grove, 71; Redford, 122; > Ellington, 149; Lone Cedar, 50; Logan Creek, 54; Roland Hill, 83; > Corridon, 12; Van Buren, 68; Cedar Grove, 196; Sinking Creek, 28; Hopewell, 41; West Fork, 47 & Black River __. > > Bethel Association was continually sending off groups of churches for > the establishment of other associations. > In 1860 a group of churches in Iron county consisting of Mount > Pleasant, BIG CREEK, Pilgrims Rest, White Oak Grove, Sugar Tree Grove, > Mount Gilead, Mount Zion & Locust Grove organized an association called Central MO Association. > > > Book says BIG CREEK was the oldest church in the Black River Association... Big Creek formed in May 1845 (remember Iron county did not > form until > 1857)...about 18 miles south of Fredricktown. The first Church house > was built in 1854; the first pastor of the church as Henry McElmurry; > he was succeeded by CT Graham, who served as pastor for 22 years. > > -----Original Message----- > From: moiron-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:moiron-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Robert L Webb > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 4:06 PM > > Marge, > The minutes I have are for 1884 and 1885. I think Wolf Creek church > must have been near Ironton, at least that is the address of the pastor, R. > S. Banks. S. Bond also a member. Names of people (members) from the > church called Leatherwood which are shown include J. B. Belmar (the pastor), I. > Sutton, C. C. Lashley, and L. Ashlock. No clues as to the location > except the county is stated to be Iron. > Robert > > On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 15:43:50 -0600 "margecam@1and1" > <margecam@lmcam1.com> > writes: > >Neither are in the History of SE MO that I have (by Douglass). I did > >find a Leatherwood MO in the South St Francois mountans. > >What time frame are you talking...has to be after 1857...if you can > >tell me that, I'll look to see if the boundares of the counties > >chaned some. > >Marge Campbell > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: moiron-bounces@rootsweb.com > >[mailto:moiron-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert L. Webb > > > >Friends, > >I recently obtained some records which show two Primitive Baptist > >churches in Iron County, one called Wolf Creek, the other called > >Leatherwood. > >They were part of the Bethel Association. Elder R. S. Banks was the > >pastor at Wolf Creek. I don't know much else. Any information anyone > >has about either of them would be welcomed. > >Robert > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOIRON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Robert - Marge, This isn't much help, but I emailed my uncle, who is a Baptist minister in Iron County, regarding the question on 'Primitive Baptist' churches in Iron County during 1884 and 1885. [Wolf Creek and Leatherwood/ Bethel Association]. This was his reply: > I'm not familiar with either of the associations or the churches. There is > a Primitive Baptist Church on 72 highway between Ironton and Fredricktown and > that may be one of them. Primitive Baptist are very much different than most > other Baptists and there are very few around here. In fact that one is the > only one I know of. Now that Marge has sent a bit more info, I will see if anything she's found may help him recall something.... What I'm picking up from Marge's information is that: Concord Association existed in 1858 and by 1874, grew to 16 churches, and by 1920 grew to 21 churches - which (as of 1912 county boundaries) were located in Franklin and Reynolds counties. Bethel Association was continually sending off groups of churches for the establishment of other associations. {This really doesn't offer much information....} Central MO Association was established in 1860 and was made up of a group of churches from Iron County, including Big Creek Church, which was the oldest established church of the Black River Association formed in May 1845. I'm confused - did I miss an earlier note about Locust Grove? This is the first I've seen it mentioned and based on this info, it doesn't seem like it was necessarily part of the Bethel Association. I know earlier Marge mentioned neither Leatherwood or Wolf Creek were specifically mentioned in this book. Also Marge, is Robert part of the list, or do replies need to be sent directly to him? I didn't notice his posting on the Iron County message board, or would have also replied there. -Kay, FL > Subj: Re: [MOIRON] 19th century churches- Locust Grove > Date: 12/6/2006 10:59:28 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: margecam@lmcam1.com > > The History of SE MO by Douglass does mention Locust Grove church, but just > a mention: > Page 475: > In 1858, the Concord Association met at Pilgrims Rest church and received > the following new churches: New Prospect, Pleasant Exchange (Ellis Campbell > switched to this church), Mount Gilead and Sugar Tree Grove. The ministers at this meeting were Isaac Lane, > R. Seal and E. Warren; Isaac > Lane was moderator again and Thomas Dickson was chosen clerk. The next > year's meeting met at Big Creek church in Iron county, one other organization was > added, this being Highland church. The third annual meeting was with > Bethlehem church in Reynolds county in 1870. > At this time there were only 6 churches in the association, but the next > year, 1871, Denning Chapel, Pleasant Valley, LOCUST GROVE, White Oak Grove, > Black Oak Grove and Friendship churches were received. The meeting was held > at Pleasant Exchange in Reynolds county; Samuel S Beard was moderator. In > 1874 the association consisted of 16 churches with a membership of 584 > and 6 > ordained ministers. > The territory of these churches is now in Franklin and Reynolds counties > (book written in 1912). The association had 21 churches in 1910 with a m > embership of 1,468. The churches were: Centreville, 95; Dickens Valley, > 90; Lesterville, 136; Pine Dale ___; Bethany, 34; Bethlehem, 85; New Hope, 20; > Dry Valley, 47; Oak Grove, 71; Redford, 122; Ellington, 149; Lone Cedar, 50; > Logan Creek, 54; Roland Hill, 83; Corridon, 12; Van Buren, 68; Cedar Grove, > 196; Sinking Creek, 28; Hopewell, 41; West Fork, 47 & Black River __. > > Bethel Association was continually sending off groups of churches for the > establishment of other associations. > In 1860 a group of churches in Iron county consisting of Mount Pleasant, > BIG CREEK, Pilgrims Rest, White Oak Grove, Sugar Tree Grove, Mount Gilead, > Mount Zion & Locust Grove organized an association called Central MO Association. > > > Book says BIG CREEK was the oldest church in the Black River Association... Big Creek formed in May 1845 (remember Iron county did not > form until > 1857)...about 18 miles south of Fredricktown. The first Church house was built in > 1854; the first pastor of the church as Henry McElmurry; he was succeeded by > CT Graham, who served as pastor for 22 years. > > -----Original Message----- > From: moiron-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:moiron-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Robert L Webb > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 4:06 PM > > Marge, > The minutes I have are for 1884 and 1885. I think Wolf Creek church > must have been near Ironton, at least that is the address of the pastor, R. > S. Banks. S. Bond also a member. Names of people (members) from the church > called Leatherwood which are shown include J. B. Belmar (the pastor), I. > Sutton, C. C. Lashley, and L. Ashlock. No clues as to the location except > the county is stated to be Iron. > Robert > > On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 15:43:50 -0600 "margecam@1and1" <margecam@lmcam1.com> > writes: > >Neither are in the History of SE MO that I have (by Douglass). I did > >find a Leatherwood MO in the South St Francois mountans. > >What time frame are you talking...has to be after 1857...if you can > >tell me that, I'll look to see if the boundares of the counties chaned > >some. > >Marge Campbell > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: moiron-bounces@rootsweb.com > >[mailto:moiron-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert L. Webb > > > >Friends, > >I recently obtained some records which show two Primitive Baptist > >churches in Iron County, one called Wolf Creek, the other called > >Leatherwood. > >They were part of the Bethel Association. Elder R. S. Banks was the pastor > >at Wolf Creek. I don't know much else. Any information anyone has > >about either of them would be welcomed. > >Robert > > >

Here are the boundary changes that include areas Iron county of today once was a part of: >>> I just want to remind everyone to check the county boundary changes >>> for the areas you are researching. If you think your ancestors went >>> from one county to another and back again, or that they went to Iowa >>> and back again to MO...in 1838 a land boundary with Iowa started >>> "The Honey War." This was not settled until 1849. Sometimes our >>> ancestor's seemed to have moved, when they actually never left the >>> original homestead. And remember, at one time most of the Original >>> colonies went sea to sea...St. Louis was in Virginia at one time! >>> >>> For example I will use Iron county MO: >>> >>> >>> Iron county formed in 1857 from Dent, Madison, Reynolds, St Francois >>> & Wayne counties >>> >>> in 1868, Iron gained from Dent, Crawford & Washington counties. >>> >>> MIssouri had many county boundary changes..which is something you >>> have to check for when looking for ancestors... you will not find >>> Iron county listed in the 1850 census records... My Iron county >>> family of Ellis Campbell was in Ripley county in 1840, Shannon in >>> 1850, some end up in Iron in 1860 & 1870, others are then in Iron in >>> 1880 ...also some ended up in St Francois. >>> Lon's >>> grandpa was in St Francois (Bismark). >>> >>> Now, let's look at Missouri as a whole & listing where Iron county >>> would have been located at each change: >>> Missouri became a teritoryin 1812, a state in 1821 (24th state) >>> >>> 1804 Cape Girardeau, New Madrid, St. Charles, St. Louis, Ste. >>> Genevieve formed as original districto of Louisiana District of Indiana Territory. >>> (Note that Mo was not even considered a territory in 1804. Also >>> these districts ran the width of the territory{no boundary defined >>> on to the West}). (Iron county would have been part of Cape >>> Girardeau district) >>> >>> 1812 Louisiana Ter renamed Missouri Territory. Five original >>> districts became counties: Cape Girardeau, New Madrid, St Charles, >>> St Louis, lostt to non-county area. Indian lands defined by Osage >>> Treaty of 1808. (Iron county would have been a part of Cape >>> Girardeau county). >>> >>> 1813 Washington co from Ste. Genevieve, St Louis. Arkansas (AR-the >>> state) >>> from New Madrid. Ste Genevieve gained from Cape Girardeau, St Louis. >>> Cape >>> Girardeau exchanged with New Madrid, St Charles lost to non-county area. >>> (Iron county in SE corner of Washington county, and Part of Cape >>> Girardeau >>> county) >>> >>> 1819 Cooper from Howard. Franklin from St Louis. Jefferson from >>> Ste Genevieve, St Louis. Lincoln from St Charles. Madison from >>> Cape Girardeau, Ste Genevieve. Montgomery from St Charles, >>> non-county area. Wayne from Cape Girardeau, Lawrence (old), New >>> Madrid. Arkansas (AR), Clark (AR), Hempstead (AR), Pulaski (AR) >>> become part of Arkansas territory. (Iron county would have been a >>> part of Washington, Madison, Wayne counties) >>> >>> 1821 MO admitted as a state. Boone, Ray from Howard. Callaway from >>> non-county area. Chariton, Ralls from Howard, Pike. Cole, Lillard, >>> Saline from Cooper. Gasconade from Franklin. Perry from Ste Genevieve. >>> St >>> Francois from Jefferson, Ste Genevieve, Washington. Franklin, >>> Howard, Pike lost to non-county area. Non-county area attachment >>> changed from Montgomer to Callaway. (Iron county would have been a >>> part of Washington & Madison counties). >>> >>> 1822 Scott from New Madrid. Clay from Ray, non-county area. Marion >>> from Ralls; unorg attached to Ralls. (Iron would have been a part >>> of Washington & Madison counties). >>> >>> 1824 Scott gained from Cape Girardeau. (Iron would have been a part >>> of Washington & Madison counties). >>> >>> 1825 Jackson from Lillard; unorg attached to Lafayette. Lillard >>> name changed to Lafayette. Scott gained from Cape Girardeau, Wayne. >>> Washington >>> gained from Madison. Wayne gained from Cape Girardeau. Boone, >>> Gasconade, Waye gained from non county area. Lawrence (old) merged >>> into Wayne. >>> Non >>> county attached to Callaway. Non county attachment changed from Ray >>> to Chariton. (Iron would have been a part of Washington & Madison >>> counties). >>> >>> 1826 Ralls gained from Marion. Non county area attachment changed >>> from Ralls to marion. Jackson, Marion organized. (Iron would have >>> been a part of Washington & Madison counties). >>> >>> 1831 Monroe from Ralls, non county area. Audrian from Ralls, non >>> county area; unorg. Attached Wayne. Boone, Chariton gained from non >>> county area. >>> Wayne lost to non county area. Non county area attachment changed >>> from Ralls to Monroe. Non county area attached to Crawford. (Iron >>> would have been a part of Washington & Madison counties). >>> >>> That's it for tonite.. I'll start with 1833 tomorrow. If you have a >>> specific county you are interested in... Let me know. Hi...here is where I left off last nite: 1831 Monroe from Ralls, non county area. Audrian from Ralls, non county area; unorg. Attached Wayne. Boone, Chariton gained from non county area. Wayne lost to non county area. Non county area attachment changed from Ralls to Monroe. Non county area attached to Crawford. (Iron would have been a part of Washington & Madison counties). 1833 Bates from Jackson, Lafayette, non county area. Carroll, Clinton, Greene, Lewis from non county area. Pulaski from Crawford. Morgan from Cooper. Pettis from Cooper, Saline, non county area. St Clair from Lafayette (note: Handy book says Rives which was later Henry). Van Buren from Jackson, Lafayette. Warren from Montgomery. St. Francois gained from Washington. Non county attachments changed from Ray to Carroll, Clay to Clinton, Marion to Lewis. Ripley organized. (Iron would have been a part of Washington, St Francois & Madison counties). 1834 Rives from Lafayette (ah, there's our explaination). Johnson from lafayette, Van Buren. (Iron would have been a part of Washington, St Francois & Madison counties). 1835 Barry from Greene. Shelby from non county area. Benton from Pettis, St Clair, non county area. Taney, White from Greene: Unorganized attached to Greene. Pulaski Gained from Greene, exhchanged with non county area. St. Clair gained from Pettis. Van Buren gained from Jackson. Stoddard exchanged with Cape Girardeau, New Madrid, Wayne. Bates attachment changed from Greene to Rives. Non county area attachment changed from Crawford to Benton. Stoddard, Van Buren organized. (Iron would have been a part of Washington, St Francois & Madison counties). 1836 Caldwell from non county area. Daviess from non county area. Clark from non county area. Audrain gained from Boone. Non cunty area attachment changed from Carroll to Daviess. Audrian organized. (Iron would have been a part of Washington, St Francois & Madison counties). 1837 Platte Purchase added to Missouri: non county area attached to Clay, Clint6on. Linn from Chariton, non county area. Livingston from non county area. Macon from Ralls, non county area. Miller from Cole, Pulaski, non county area. Shannon from Crawford, Greene, Ripley, non county area. Cole gained from non county area. Greene, Taney gained from non county area. Pulaski gained from Crawford. White abolished, became non county area. (Iron would have been a part of Washington, St Francois, non county & Madison counties NOTE: the part of Shannon county from unorganized area will one day become part of Iron county). 1838 Beginning of boundary disput with Iowa Territory by northward extension of Clark county [The Honey War]. Buchanan from non county area. Newton from Barry (disputed overlap). Platte from non county area. (Iron would have been a part of Washington, St Francois & Madison counties). 1839 Extension of boundary dispute with Iowa territory to entire northern border. Grundy from non county area: unorganized, attached to Livingston. Ray, Taney gained from non county area. Non county area attachement changed from Clinton to Buchanan. (Iron would have been a part of Washington, St Francois & Madison counties). 1841 Adair, Andrew, Dade, Holt, Jasper, Niangua, Scotland from non county area. Gentry from non county area; unorganized attached to Clinton. Kinderhook from Benton, Pulaski, non county area. Oregon, Ozark from Ripley, con county area: unorganized, attached to Ripley. Osage from Gasconade. Rives name changed to Henry. Wright from Pulaski. Bates gained from Newton, Van Buren. St Clair gained from Polk. Stoddard gained from New Madrid. Bates, Grundy, St Clair, Shannon organized. (Iron would have been a part of Washington, St Francois & Madison counties NOTE part of what will become Iron is in Shannon county at this point in time). 1842 Mississippi from Scott: unorganized and attached to Scott. (Iron would have been a part of Washington, St Francois & Madison counties NOTE part of what will become Iron is in Shannon county at this point in time) 1843 Allen from Holt: unorganized & attached to Holt. Ashley from Shannon, Wright, non county area: unorganized attached to Shannon. Dekalb from non county area: attached to Clinton. Dunklin from Stoddard: unorganized, attached to Stoddard. Harrison from non county area: attached to Davies. Highland from non county area: unorganized, attached to Grundy, Lynn. Knox from Scotland: unorganized, att to Scotland. Lawrence from Barry, Dade, Newton: unorganized attached to Barry, Dade. Mercer from non county area: unorganized attached to Grundy. Nodaway from Andrew: unorg att to Andrew. Putnam, Schuyler from non county area: unorganized attached to Adair. Kinderhook name changed to Camden. Ozark name changed to Decatur. Audrain gained from Monroe. Crawford exchanged with Pulaski. Lincoln exchanged with Warren. Madison exchanged with Shannon. Ste Genevieve gained from St Francois. Marion, Shelby gained from Monroe. Niangua attached to Wright. (Iron would have been a part of Washington, St Francois & Madison counties NOTE part of what will become Iron is in Shannon county at this point in time). More later. Please note that some dates may not jive with what Handy Book or other sources may have. This is due to some states not becoming organized until a different year. Hi...here is where I left off last time: 1843 Allen from Holt: unorganized & attached to Holt. Ashley from Shannon, Wright, non county area: unorganized attached to Shannon. Dekalb from non county area: attached to Clinton. Dunklin from Stoddard: unorganized, attached to Stoddard. Harrison from non county area: attached to Davies. Highland from non county area: unorganized, attached to Grundy, Lynn. Knox from Scotland: unorganized, att to Scotland. Lawrence from Barry, Dade, Newton: unorganized attached to Barry, Dade. Mercer from non county area: unorganized attached to Grundy. Nodaway from Andrew: unorg att to Andrew. Putnam, Schuyler from non county area: unorganized attached to Adair. Kinderhook name changed to Camden. Ozark name changed to Decatur. Audrain gained from Monroe. Crawford exchanged with Pulaski. Lincoln exchanged with Warren. Madison exchanged with Shannon. Ste Genevieve gained from St Francois. Marion, Shelby gained from Monroe. Niangua attached to Wright. (Iron would have been a part of Washington, St Francois & Madison counties NOTE part of what will become Iron is in Shannon county at this point in time). 1844 Niangua name changed to Dallas. (Iron would have been a part of Washington, St Francois & Madison counties NOTE part of what will become Iron is in Shannon county at this point in time). 1845 Cedar from Dade, St Clair. Hickory from Benton, Polk. Moniteau from Cole, Morgan. Reynolds from Shannon. Decatur name changed to Ozark. Allen name changed to Atchison. Ashley name changed to Texas. Highland name changed to Sullivan. Gentry, Putnam, Mercer, Wright, Harrison lost to non county area. Pettis gained from Benton. St Clair gained from Polk. Nodaway gained from Atchison. Saline gained from Cooper. Linn gained from Chariton. Scott gained from Cape Girardeau. Boone gained from Audrian. Barry gasined overlap with Newton . Atchison, Ashley, De Kalb, Knox, Gentry, Harrison, Nodaway, Oregon, Schuyler, Mercer, Sullivan, Dunklin, Lawrence, Mississippi organized. (Iron would have been a part of Washington, St Francois & Madison counties NOTE part of what will become Iron was in Shannon county, and now is in Reynolds county at this point in time). 1846 Dodge from Putnam, non county area: unorganized attached to Putnam. (Iron would have been a part of Washington, St Francois & Madison counties NOTE part of what will become Iron is in Reynolds county at this point in time). 1847 Seneca from Newton: unrog attached to Newton. Donaldson from Jackson, Johnson, Lafayette, Van Buren. Cape Girardeau exchanged with Perry. Jasper gained from Newton. (Iron would have been a part of Washington, St Francois & Madison counties NOTE part of what will become Iron is in Reynolds county at this point in time) 1849 Settlement of Iowa boundary by U.S. Supreme Court decision. Butler from Wayne. Laclede from Camden, Pulaski, non county area. Donaldson merged into Cass, Jackson, Johnson, Lafayette. Van Buren name changed to Cass. Seneca name changed to McDonald. Cape Girardeau exchanged with Perry. Dunklin gained from New Madrid. Greene gained from Taney. Lincoln gained from Montgomery. Reynolds gained from Madison, Wayne. Scott gained from Mississipp. Seneca gained from Newton. Wayne gaine from Madison. Dodge, McDonald organized. (Iron would have been a part of Washington, St Francois & Madison counties NOTE part of what will become Iron is in Reynolds county at this point in time) 1851 Bollinger from Cape Girardeau, Stoccard, Wayne. Dent from Crawford, Shannon. Vernon from Bates. Stone from Taney. Pemiscot from New Madrid. Mississippi gained from non county area. (Iron would have been a part of Washington, St Francois & Madison counties NOTE part of what will become Iron is in Reynolds county at this point in time & possibably Wayne). 1852 Vernon merged into Bates, Cass. (Iron would have been a part of Washington, St Francois & Madison counties NOTE part of what will become Iron is in Reynolds county at this point in time & possibably Wayne). 1853 Dodge discontinued, annexed to Putnam. Cape Girardeau gained from Stoddard. Dunklin gained from Stoddard. (Iron would have been a part of Washington, St Francois & Madison counties NOTE part of what will become Iron is in Reynolds county at this point in time & possibably Wayne). 1855 Maries from Osage, Pulaski. Webster from Greene, Wright, Ozark, Dallas. Barton from Jasper. Vernon from Bates. Bates gained from Cass. Cole gained from Osage. Dent gained from Texas. Livingston gained from Linn. Ossage gained from Pulaski. Reynolds gained from Wayne. Stoddard gained from New Madrid. Taney gained from Greene. (Iron would have been a part of Washington, St Francois & Madison counties NOTE part of what will become Iron is in Reynolds county at this point in time & possibably Wayne). 1857 Douglas from Ozark. Howell from Oregon. Iron from Dent, Madison, Reynolds, St. Francois, Washington, Wayne. Phelps from Crawford, Maries, Pulaski. (Iron is now in Iron county). 1858 Carter from Ripley, Shannon, Reynolds. Christian from Greene, Taney, Webester. Bollinger gained from Stoddard. Maries gained from Phleps. St. Clair gained from Henry. Mississippi exchanged with Scott. Phelps gained from Pulaski. Shannon gained from Oregon. 1860 Atchison gained from Nodaway. Dent gained from Texas. Miller gained from Morgan. 1861 Worth from non county area. Nodaway gained from Atchison. 1864 Butler gained from Ripley. Douglas gained from Webster, Taney. 1865 Cape Girardeau exchanged with Scott. More later... Have 9 more changes in boundaries for MO to go. Hi...here is where I left off last time: 1865 Cape Girardeau exchanged with Scott. 1868 Carter gained from Shannon. Dent exchanged with Reynolds. Howell gained from washiington. Miller gained from Cole. Misissippi exchanged with New Madrid. Moniteau gained from Morgan. New Madrid exchanged with Stoddard. Oregon exchanged with Ripley . Phelps gained from Maries. Reynolds gained from Shannon. Stoddard exchanged with Wayne. Wayne gained from Reynolds. 1869 Crawford gained from Gasconade. 1870 Texas gained from Douglas. Douglas gained from Texas. Bollinger exchanged with Wayne Butler gained from Carter. Butlet exchanged with Ripley. Wayne gained from Carter. Reynolds gained from Dent, Shannon. 1875 Camden exchanged with Miller. 1877 St. Louis City seperated from St Louis county. 1879 Cole gained from Miller. Howell gained from Ozark. McDonald gained from Newton. 1881 Morgan gained from Moniteau. 1889 St Clair gained from Benton. This concludes the changes to MO boundaries as of 1990 (the program I have, ANIMAP, was purchased in 1990). I have continually "preached" that you should NEVER say NEVER when someone says "I think I am connected to you".... I have done this a few times, to later find I was wrong. I have been told that traveling was hard in the early decades in this country...people just didn't move or travel far from home...Then how did they get here? They had to travel across an ocean that was once thought to be flat! If they did that...and wanted their own piece of this new country...I bet they traveled...walked if they had to. But, the above boundary changes in MO alone shows they could have sat in a huddle & showed up on a different census every 10 years. Did you know St. Louis was once an area claimed by Virginia? http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mcampbel/va2/1783va.htm USA as of 1783. If the above is cut off.. Go to http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mcampbel/va2/ And choose the 1783 map... I put these up because so many have ancestors from "Virginia" that I wanted to show that Virginia once covered a vast area of America. I hope the above helps you find a way past a few brick walls. Hope this is not too long... Marge -----Original Message----- From: moiron-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:moiron-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jerrycrain@aol.com Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 10:29 AM To: moiron@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MOIRON] Zachariah Taylor Phillips 1850- 1894? Hi Marge thanks for the e mail my original e mail was a little vague James Franklin Taylor was born 14 Mar 1825 Lebanon, Wilson, Tennessee his daughter my Great grandmother Mary Jeanette Taylor " Nettie" was born in Iron co. My Great Grandfather in the 1850 census as Jack Philips Washington, Lawrence, OH abt 1849 Ohio. They moved to Iron co MO between 1850 and 1860 Zachariah T Phillips Arcadia, Iron, MO 9 1850 Ohio Male the last census I have him is in the 1870 living with his parents. I did find that he died on 20 Nov 1893 and barred in Kelley Cemetery Wappapello, Wayne County , Missouri Thanks for all of the help that every one has given Thanks again Jerry ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOIRON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Marge thanks for the e mail my original e mail was a little vague James Franklin Taylor was born 14 Mar 1825 Lebanon, Wilson, Tennessee his daughter my Great grandmother Mary Jeanette Taylor " Nettie" was born in Iron co. My Great Grandfather in the 1850 census as Jack Philips Washington, Lawrence, OH abt 1849 Ohio. They moved to Iron co MO between 1850 and 1860 Zachariah T Phillips Arcadia, Iron, MO 9 1850 Ohio Male the last census I have him is in the 1870 living with his parents. I did find that he died on 20 Nov 1893 and barred in Kelley Cemetery Wappapello, Wayne County , Missouri Thanks for all of the help that every one has given Thanks again Jerry

Unless your great Grandmother was very young..she was not born in Iron county... Iron formed in 1857...was she born after 1857? Before 1857 for Iron, you need to check several other counties. Marge -----Original Message----- From: moiron-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:moiron-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jerrycrain@aol.com Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 10:29 AM To: moiron@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MOIRON] Zachariah Taylor Phillips 1850- 1894? Hi Marge thanks for the e mail my original e mail was a little vague James Franklin Taylor was born 14 Mar 1825 Lebanon, Wilson, Tennessee his daughter my Great grandmother Mary Jeanette Taylor " Nettie" was born in Iron co. My Great Grandfather in the 1850 census as Jack Philips Washington, Lawrence, OH abt 1849 Ohio. They moved to Iron co MO between 1850 and 1860 Zachariah T Phillips Arcadia, Iron, MO 9 1850 Ohio Male the last census I have him is in the 1870 living with his parents. I did find that he died on 20 Nov 1893 and barred in Kelley Cemetery Wappapello, Wayne County , Missouri Thanks for all of the help that every one has given Thanks again Jerry ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOIRON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marge, Thank you for that information; however, the churches I'm asking about were Reguar Baptist or Primitive Baptist, so they were not the same churches as those by the same name in your quotation. There was a Bethel Association of Primitive Baptists, and another of Missionary Baptists, if I'm not mistaken. I haven't known much about either one, and am just starting to learn a little bit lately. I have these two minutes 1884 and 1885 of the Bethel Primitive. Robert