There is a census record in 1830 in Howard county, for a John Williams, between the ages of 20-30 with an assummed wife between the ages of 15-20 and no children. This would fit with this couple, if they were married before the 1831 marriage date. However, the ancestry.com image didn't give the date the census record was taken, and this John was listed right below a James Williams who might have been his father. The 1830 Howard county record for Colden includes 2 males in the age range to be John C. Williams. the 1830 record for Jacob Chism in Cooper county has a daughter in the 15-20 year range, who could be Sarah. So these two records would support the 1831 marriage date. I have no record of this child, Colden C. Williams, at all. Did he die young? Kathy Bowlin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth DuBois Russo" <elizabethrusso@attbi.com> To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [MOHOWARD-L] Chism (and Williams) > Oh dear. A can of worms again. I see that I have a child of John C. and > Sarah Chism Williams being Colden C. Williams, born 21 April 1830. My > source for this is an archives posting to this list. This child would have > been born, then, 10 months before the marriage of this couple. Is he not a > child of theirs, then? Is one of the dates wrong? > > Hmmmm... > > Elizabeth > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carolyn Gibbons" <c.n.gibbons@worldnet.att.net> > To: "Elizabeth DuBois Russo" <elizabethrusso@attbi.com>; > <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:46 AM > Subject: Re: [MOHOWARD-L] Chism > > > > I have a date of 20 Feb 1831 as given in the Chism Bible. > > >

Kathy, I have the date of death for Colden C. as 23 July 1844. The source of this information is FergyJR@aol.com. Hopefully, she'll join us in this discussion. I have the 1850 and 1860 census records for John and Sarah, but not 1830, 1840, or 1870. If anyone knew the page numbers, we could get these images from the Howard County pages at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/mo/howard/census/. I found the two records I do have by going page by page. No time to do that today, much as I wished! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike & Kathy Bowlin" > I have no record of this child, Colden C. Williams, at all. Did he die young?