Kathy, Thanks so much for all your help. My wife is descends from James TERRILL's brother William. William's widow married John ALLEGA in 1845 and moved to Chariton County, Missouri. I descend from Susanna CAVE's brother Uriel CAVE who lived in Clay County, Missouri. So the children of James and Susanna (CAVE) are of special interest to me. I think I can answer some of John's questions about William TERRILL ans Susan BAGBY. First, Blanch did not die in 1912. I had in my database that she died after 1912. I did not realize that tree would list this as a death in 1912. John, I had not found William and Susan in the 1880 census. Thank you for showing me where to find it. I have them in the 1860 and 1870 census. I found these at the National Archives and have not had time to double check them on line. I copied some marriage records in Randolph County, Missouri several years ago. John H. BOTTS married Alice TERRILL on 2 November, 1876 in Randolph County, Missouri. Joseph W. WATTS married Cynthia TERRILL on 10 Sept, 1879 in Randolph County, Missouri. 1860 census Randolph County, Missouri Terrill, William C. 31m Ky Susan 27f Mo Alice 2f Mo Blanch 1f Mo 1870 census Randolph County, Missouri Silver Creek, Post Office Cairo 225-225 36(287) Terrill, W. C. 41 mw farmer 2000 400 Ky S. F. 31 fw Mo A. C. 12 fw Mo Blanch 11 fw Mo J. B. 9 fw Mo C. 7 fw Mo Jessie 4 fw Mo M. C. 2 fw Mo The Threlkeld Genealogy states that the children are Alice, Blanch, Breckenridge, Pope and Cynthia. Jesse and Pope may be two different children. I found Joseph and Cynthia WATTS at 113-10 and John and Alice BOTTS at 113-29 on the 1880 census. I wonder since Joseph WATTS was 15 years older that Cynthia if she was widowed and remarried. I think M. C. TERRILL on the 1870 census was Mary Susan TERRILL o the 1880 census. Kathy, we just keep thanking you. Is there anything we can be doing to help you with your research? Steve At 08:52 PM 06/17/2001 EDT, you wrote: > kathy Bowlin, thanks for posting the articles on Susan F. Bagby And >WC.Terrill. >Great fathers day present. Lots of useful information for me. I had nothing >on the Botts. I did not know that Susan had 9 children. One article said she >had 5. >That is all I had but only 2 of the 5 were documented. I had these names but >no data. >Alice, Blanch, Cynthia & on 1880 census are John B. Terrill age 18. & the >youngest child, Mary Susan Terrill age 12. I don't see Mary Susan on Mr. >Willsons list > Take a peek, looks like Mary Susan written on census?? ><A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/mo/randolph/census/1880/113-11.gif"> http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/mo/randolph/census/1880/113-11.gif</A> >http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/mo/randolph/census/1880/113-11.gif >Is she one of the infants to die young?? of the 9. >John B. called Brack, nickname? from Brackinridge? > If Cynthia was 17 in 1880, she should be on this census, unless moved out >or married. > Which daughter was married to H.C.Thorpe, w/o H. C. King? >Are their more then 1 Blanch? Or did Blanch Terrill married to W. T. Botts, >then married in 1916 to Wm. B. Grant. Either listed 1912 death date wrong or >another Blanch??. > Kathy, who do I send my check to? > > James M. Bagby [email protected] (JMB) > > > > >