Carolyn Yes.. there McClanahan and Thurston ties. Jacob Chism's daughter Priscilla married a McClanahan. That's why the estate record of Mary Smith was so interesting.. all the children and their marriages are noted -- all over a fight for slaves. These connections also spill over into Pettis and Henry Co., MO. traci wilson-kleekamp

DOUBLE SPRINGS (1820) Double Springs Church was organized July 15, 1820, with eleven charter members, viz., Joseph Boyer, Sally Boyer, Walter Burris, Nancy Burris, Belinda Graham, Jacob Sowder, Silba Sowder, Isaiah Stephens, John Stephens, Elizabeth Stephens, and Anna Stephens. The presbytery was composed of Elders Peter Wood, Lewis Shelton, and Jacob Chism. Elder Lewis Shelton served the church "until David Allee comes out." In October 1820, David Allee was chosen pastor. Elder Lewis Shelton united with the church by letter in August 1829. In March 1822 the church took under consideration building a meeting house, on one side of the creek. In June 1828, an addition was planned. The church united with an Association in 1820, but the records do not state its name. In October 1823 the church appointed delegates to assist in the constitution of the South District Association. SURNAMES OF MEMBERS: Amos, Barrens, Boyer, Burris, Claybrook, Cruise, Cundiff, Davis, Duvall, Graham, Hanna, Howard, Jobe, Jones, Kirkham, Lunda, Maldan, McCaslin, McDaniel, Patterson, Payne, Peoples, Reeves, Shelton, Smith, Sowder, Stark, Stephens, Stubblefield, Tate, Vernon, Ware, Williams (spelling may be incorrect in several of these as the records are difficult to read). NOTE: We have the records of Double Springs Church. We are in touch with Missouri's Western Manuscript Collection to see about sharing microfilms of the records we each have that the other does not have. http://www.carthage.lib.il.us/community/churches/primbap/pbl.html

Howard and Mahala are the ones we are looking for, and Morgan county would be right for that time period. Traci has explored this family in depth. Also found a website on Ancestry.com that lists their daughter Sarah as having been born in about 1835 in Morgan county, Missouri. Howard was the son of Jacob Chism, a pioneer preacher who was in the Boonslick area quite early. He performed the marriage for my husband's great-great grandparents in Cooper county in 1831. Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth Wilson" <beth@swilson.com> To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [MOHOWARD-L] Howard Chism and children > I show 3 Chism couples in Howard County early: > Daniel and Mary in 1840. (A Mary Chism of Randolph County is the daughter of > William Snell, deceased in 1827.) > John and Francis in 1828. > Howard and Mahala in 1836 but they were in Morgan County. > > Beth > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elizabeth DuBois Russo" <elizabethrusso@attbi.com> > To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 6:27 AM > Subject: [MOHOWARD-L] Howard Chism and children > > > > I just found a posting in the archives about children of Howard and > Mahala. It involves an 1850 census with an Emily Cline being married to a > Howard Chism, with assumptions there being made that Howard married Emily > second and combined the families. I'm now really confused. > > > > I guess I need to now add court and probate records for Mahala to my list > of documents to look for. > > > > Or does someone have this figured out? Was there a divorce? Or are we > back to thinking there were two Howard Chism's? How else did any Chisms > miss out on getting this land outright at Mahala's death? (I'm beginning to > see why there was a lawsuit--to detangle this mess!) > > > > E > > > > Elizabeth > > > > > > >

Perhaps I am reading this wrong, but it looks like the quarrel was not over Mahala's 1/9th portion of the land, but over Charity's, who died in 1858 without heirs. The defendants named as the administrators of Mahala's will and others, were perhaps some of Mahala's children. I can't see a scenario where Mahala's children would have lost their right to this land, if it was their mother's to begin with. Nor can I understand why this suit would have been filed 13 years after Mahala had died? Perhaps the Dehony's or Courtney's are Mahala's children. Mahala had daughters named Mary and Sarah, so perhaps Sarah Dehoney was Charity's daughter and Leander M. Dehony was her husband, and Mary A. Courtney was Mahala's daughter, and James M. Courtney was her husband. The two or three youngest children of Mahala were probably underage in 1860, which would be why the administrator (Thomas Monroe) of Mahala was being sued. Is Traci out there, and would she know who Mahala's children married? And how many were still alive in 1860? Willoughby was guardian of Charity, who was insane, and she was living in his household in 1850. Just found this on Ancestry.com. At least it answers who Sarah Dehoney and Leander were. "Always Looking for Cousins!" Entries: 125961 Updated: Sun Aug 25 18:16:27 2002 Contact: Craig Beeman <crb@ponyexpress.net> ID: I183388 Name: Sarah CHISUM Sex: F Birth: 28 FEB 1835 in ,Morgan,MO Death: 9 JUL 1905 Change Date: 15 MAR 1999 at 05:56:42 Marriage 1 M. Leander DEHONEY b: 28 OCT 1826 in ,Scott,KY Married: 5 OCT 1854 in ,Jackson,MO Children Howard DEHONEY b: 1856 in ,,MO Wellena DEHONEY b: 1856 in ,,MO Thomas DEHONEY b: 1859 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------Leander's mother was Harriet Gatewood, a very distant cousin of Eliza Gatewood, wife of Granville Atkins. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1880 US Census Place: Brooking, Jackson, Missouri Source: FHL Film 1254694 National Archives Film T9-0694 Page 223D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Leander M. DEHONEY Self M W 50 KY Occ: Farmer Fa: VA Mo: VA Sarah DEHONEY Wife F M W 47 MO Occ: Keeping House Fa: KY Mo: KY Howard C. DEHONEY Son M S W 25 MO Occ: Farmer Fa: KY Mo: MO Linda DEHONEY Dau F S W 22 MO Occ: At School Fa: KY Mo: MO Robert E. L. DEHONEY Son M S W 14 MO Occ: At School Fa: KY Mo: MO Leander DEHONEY Son M S W 12 MO Occ: At School Fa: KY Mo: MO Carrie DEHONEY Dau F S W 10 MO Occ: At School Fa: KY Mo: MO Cora DEHONEY Dau F S W 9 MO Occ: At School Fa: KY Mo: MO Buford DEHONEY Son M S W 6 MO Occ: At School Fa: KY Mo: MO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth DuBois Russo" <elizabethrusso@attbi.com> To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 6:40 AM Subject: [MOHOWARD-L] 1860 Lawsuit naming heirs of Mahala Williams Chism > I do have a day job that I need to get back to <g> but I couldn't resist putting this one more excerpt out there for discussion: > > Howard County Deed Book 9, page 132 > > "Know all men by these presents that whereas at the June term 1860 of the Howard Circuit Court Judgment was rendered upon a petition filed therein by Willoughby Williams, Wm. D. Williams, George W. Williams, Colden, J. Williams, Josiah Brown, Nancy Brown, Nero M. Thomson, Elizabeth Thomson, Reuben Watts, Margaret Watts, Edmond C. Foster, Martha J. Foster, Casendara Brashear and Mary F. Withers, Plaintiffs against John C. Williams, Sarah Hardin, Uriah Davis, Joseph B. Davis, James C. Davis, Colden Davis, Charles C. McKinny, Mariah McKinny, Uriah J. Williams, Ann E. Williams, Martha J. Williams, Leander M. Dehony, Sarah Dehoney, Mary A. Courtney, James M. Courtney & Thomas Monroe administrator of Mahala Chism deceased, Defendants...." > > Does anyone have who the McKinneys, the Dehoneys, and the Courtneys are? > > For the curious, the plaintiffs won and the land belonging to Mahala (her 1/9 share of a Colden Williams piece of land) was sold to the highest bidder who was Willoughby Williams. Willoughby eventually was successful in obtaining nearly all of his siblings' shares one way or another. Most deeded over their shares for a nominal amount. Willoughby had been given his father's "plantation" in Colden's will and he proceeded to buy up land where he could that had been other pieces of Colden's land. > > EDR > > >

I have Charles McKinney as the husband of Mary G. Davis. Mary was the daughter of Mary Williams and Joseph Davis. Also have Nettie Davis, daughter of the aforementioned couple, married to an unknown McKinney. Have no Dehony's in my database, and the only Courtney that I have is a Mattie Courtney, who married Alfred Burris, the great-grandson of Yel Atkins Sr. Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth DuBois Russo" <elizabethrusso@attbi.com> To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 6:40 AM Subject: [MOHOWARD-L] 1860 Lawsuit naming heirs of Mahala Williams Chism > I do have a day job that I need to get back to <g> but I couldn't resist putting this one more excerpt out there for discussion: > > Howard County Deed Book 9, page 132 > > "Know all men by these presents that whereas at the June term 1860 of the Howard Circuit Court Judgment was rendered upon a petition filed therein by Willoughby Williams, Wm. D. Williams, George W. Williams, Colden, J. Williams, Josiah Brown, Nancy Brown, Nero M. Thomson, Elizabeth Thomson, Reuben Watts, Margaret Watts, Edmond C. Foster, Martha J. Foster, Casendara Brashear and Mary F. Withers, Plaintiffs against John C. Williams, Sarah Hardin, Uriah Davis, Joseph B. Davis, James C. Davis, Colden Davis, Charles C. McKinny, Mariah McKinny, Uriah J. Williams, Ann E. Williams, Martha J. Williams, Leander M. Dehony, Sarah Dehoney, Mary A. Courtney, James M. Courtney & Thomas Monroe administrator of Mahala Chism deceased, Defendants...." > > Does anyone have who the McKinneys, the Dehoneys, and the Courtneys are? > > For the curious, the plaintiffs won and the land belonging to Mahala (her 1/9 share of a Colden Williams piece of land) was sold to the highest bidder who was Willoughby Williams. Willoughby eventually was successful in obtaining nearly all of his siblings' shares one way or another. Most deeded over their shares for a nominal amount. Willoughby had been given his father's "plantation" in Colden's will and he proceeded to buy up land where he could that had been other pieces of Colden's land. > > EDR > > >

Beth et. al.. Yes -- I have Mahala Williams and Howard Chism in Morgan Co., -- Here's an email I received from a fellow researcher the last time we had this discussion: Traci: I have Mahala Williams, last daughter of Colden Williams b May 15, 1815 in Ky (probably Barren County) and died before 1850 in Cooper County. Howard Seth Chism b 1806 and died Cooper County. They were married Feb 13, 1831 (could be Feb 15 as I have seen this date from others) in Howard County, Mo. They had 6 children Colden b Abt. 1831; Mary Abt 1833; Sarah Abt 1835; Priscilla Abt 1839; Cornelia Abt 1842 and Sarah Abt 1847 (2 Sarah's with different dates)e Census for Morgan County,(Cooper) MO. however I have not checked this. John Calhoun Williams definitely married Sarah Chism and they lived in Bonne Femme TWP, Howard County, Mo. They are both buried at New Hope Cemetery in Howard County. The Cemetery and Church are located in the eastern part of the county, south of Higbee, MO. and I can give you an exact location if you are interested. Also their children. Please let me know if there is anything else that I might have. I still don't understand how Sara Chism ended up getting married to John in Howard County when the rest of the family was in Cooper County also I haven't been able to prove that she is the daughter of Jacob?? Checked Jacob's will that you were kind enough to post but no mention is made of Sarah however she and her husband John Williams would not have been a part of the court proceedings if she was not Jacob's daughter. Thank you for sharing all the data that you have worked for. Again, let me know if I can be of any further help. Lou Myers AND: Yes Howard Seth Chism was married twice according to info that I have No. 1 Mahala Williams, Feb. 15 1831 and No. 2 Emily Cline after 1847.(Mahala's last child was born in 1847) As to the travel between Cooper County and Howard Countyin 1830 when John C. Williams and Sara G. Chism were married. This was before any railroads had been built and most of the trails and stage coach lines were east west in this part of the country. The north - south trip and river crossing would have been difficult to say the least. They were living about 20 miles west of Fayette in the northeastern part of Howard County so my guess is that it was probably a hundred miles or more on horseback or 4 to 5 days each way for a visit. Here is Jacob Chism's will: http://www.missouri-slave-data.org/jchism.jpg I also have the will of John Langdon Chism who married Frances Cooper These chisms are descendents of James Chism and Priscilla Howard http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/o/w/Roy-J-Howard/GENE1-0003.html By the way -- Howard's father Jacob Chism was a minister of Big Rock Primative Baptist Church in Morgan CO., MO. I have the church records for several years if anyone is interested in a look up... these families that we've been talking about above. traci wilson-kleekamp

I just found a posting in the archives about children of Howard and Mahala. It involves an 1850 census with an Emily Cline being married to a Howard Chism, with assumptions there being made that Howard married Emily second and combined the families. I'm now really confused. I guess I need to now add court and probate records for Mahala to my list of documents to look for. Or does someone have this figured out? Was there a divorce? Or are we back to thinking there were two Howard Chism's? How else did any Chisms miss out on getting this land outright at Mahala's death? (I'm beginning to see why there was a lawsuit--to detangle this mess!) E Elizabeth

Would it be a correct assumption that Howard Chism's death preceded Mahala's death? And that both died before the June 1860 lawsuit? And that they died childless? I am making these assumptions due to the lack of any Chism being named in the lawsuit mentioned in my previous posting. Also, the lack of any named guardian on the behalf of a Chism child. I am further making this assumption because it would seem that the Plaintiffs in the suit would be without standing to sue if there was a spouse or child living. It appears to me that Mahala's share would therefore go back to her siblings (and the deceased siblings' children) thus all the named Plaintiffs and Defendants. But I don't know Missouri law as of 1860.

I show 3 Chism couples in Howard County early: Daniel and Mary in 1840. (A Mary Chism of Randolph County is the daughter of William Snell, deceased in 1827.) John and Francis in 1828. Howard and Mahala in 1836 but they were in Morgan County. Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth DuBois Russo" <elizabethrusso@attbi.com> To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 6:27 AM Subject: [MOHOWARD-L] Howard Chism and children > I just found a posting in the archives about children of Howard and Mahala. It involves an 1850 census with an Emily Cline being married to a Howard Chism, with assumptions there being made that Howard married Emily second and combined the families. I'm now really confused. > > I guess I need to now add court and probate records for Mahala to my list of documents to look for. > > Or does someone have this figured out? Was there a divorce? Or are we back to thinking there were two Howard Chism's? How else did any Chisms miss out on getting this land outright at Mahala's death? (I'm beginning to see why there was a lawsuit--to detangle this mess!) > > E > > Elizabeth > >

Howard and Mahala Chism are listed as living in Morgan County in 1836. Someone should check the records there. Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth DuBois Russo" <elizabethrusso@attbi.com> To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 6:10 AM Subject: [MOHOWARD-L] Mahala and Howard Chism dates of death > Would it be a correct assumption that Howard Chism's death preceded Mahala's death? And that both died before the June 1860 lawsuit? And that they died childless? > > I am making these assumptions due to the lack of any Chism being named in the lawsuit mentioned in my previous posting. Also, the lack of any named guardian on the behalf of a Chism child. I am further making this assumption because it would seem that the Plaintiffs in the suit would be without standing to sue if there was a spouse or child living. It appears to me that Mahala's share would therefore go back to her siblings (and the deceased siblings' children) thus all the named Plaintiffs and Defendants. > > But I don't know Missouri law as of 1860. > >

I do have a day job that I need to get back to <g> but I couldn't resist putting this one more excerpt out there for discussion: Howard County Deed Book 9, page 132 "Know all men by these presents that whereas at the June term 1860 of the Howard Circuit Court Judgment was rendered upon a petition filed therein by Willoughby Williams, Wm. D. Williams, George W. Williams, Colden, J. Williams, Josiah Brown, Nancy Brown, Nero M. Thomson, Elizabeth Thomson, Reuben Watts, Margaret Watts, Edmond C. Foster, Martha J. Foster, Casendara Brashear and Mary F. Withers, Plaintiffs against John C. Williams, Sarah Hardin, Uriah Davis, Joseph B. Davis, James C. Davis, Colden Davis, Charles C. McKinny, Mariah McKinny, Uriah J. Williams, Ann E. Williams, Martha J. Williams, Leander M. Dehony, Sarah Dehoney, Mary A. Courtney, James M. Courtney & Thomas Monroe administrator of Mahala Chism deceased, Defendants...." Does anyone have who the McKinneys, the Dehoneys, and the Courtneys are? For the curious, the plaintiffs won and the land belonging to Mahala (her 1/9 share of a Colden Williams piece of land) was sold to the highest bidder who was Willoughby Williams. Willoughby eventually was successful in obtaining nearly all of his siblings' shares one way or another. Most deeded over their shares for a nominal amount. Willoughby had been given his father's "plantation" in Colden's will and he proceeded to buy up land where he could that had been other pieces of Colden's land. EDR

Just some info I have collected. I show that Alford/Alfred Williams b May 21, 1749 in VA died Feb 17, 1835, Howard Co. married Elizabeth Price, Jul 21, 1771. They had Nancy b February 28, 1779 she married Nathaniel Morris and Benjamin Williams b September 16, 1774 Spotsylvania Co., VA d October 13, 1859 Howard Co.MO buried in Harvey Cemetery, Howard Co., MO married Nancy Williams (parents unknown). The Williams buried in Harvey Cemetery are: John, b KY 10-19-1789 d 9-10-1833 Nancy w B. b 1777 VA d 2-10-1851 Benjamin b 9-16-1774 VA d 10-13-1860 Price d 5-25-1876 67y 9m 22d Polly 1780-1854 Mary E. d 8-30-1878 42y 4m 18d B. E. d 11-21-1879 60y 5m 8 d Source info on Cemetery info: Howard County Cemetery Records by Boggs/Coutts. I will have to check my files for the other source info. I did not enter it at the time.

<PRE>Source info on Willoughby and Susan Rupe Turner Williams is from the cemetery records by Howard County Cemetery Records by Karen Carmichael Boggs and Louiise Muir Coutts. They are both buried in Walnut Ridge Cemetery. I have also personally visited the cemetery. I photographed many of the Howard County tombstones during my visit last year.

I wholeheartedly agree. I don't think they are. Sally is a nickname for Sarah, not Susan. Ephriam Turner married Sally/Sarah Rupe. Willoughby Williams married Susan Rupe Turner. James Turner married Elizabeth Rupe. I believe the parental consent is a clear indication that her maiden name was Turner, not Rupe. I believe Rupe was her middle name, from her mother's maiden name. Census records show her as Susan R. Turner. Not likely she would be using her maiden name as part of her married name. That's why I think she was BORN a Turner. And is it likely that she would have named her son, James TURNER Williams if Turner was her first married name? I've seen it done, but not often. And I have to wonder of James Turner's middle name might be Thomas, and if he is the Thomas who signed Susan's parental consent. Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth Wilson" <beth@swilson.com> To: "Mike & Kathy Bowlin" <mkbowlin@iland.net>; <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 12:22 AM Subject: Re: [MOHOWARD-L] Susan Rupe Turner Williams > I looked again, it clearly says that Susannah required parental consent. I > still can't believe that Sally and Susan or Susannah are the same person. > > Beth > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike & Kathy Bowlin" <mkbowlin@iland.net> > To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:02 PM > Subject: Re: [MOHOWARD-L] Susan Rupe Turner Williams > > > > Thanks Carolyn, > > > > I found them on page 772. Didn't realize there was a Walnut Ridge > Cemetery in the Howard county book. I was checking them in > > alphabetical order, which seems to be the way they were listed. All I > found was Walnut Hill/Walnut Grove. Walnut Ridge was the last > > cemetery listed, after Yates. > > > > If she was a widow when she married the second time (assumming it was > a second time), why would she require parental consent? > > > > According to GenePool, Gilead did have a daughter Susan, but she was > born in 1810. Susan Rupe Turner who married Willoughby was > > born in 1817. > > > > Gene Pool Individual Records - Births > > Viewing records 11-12 of 12 Matches > > << Previous 10 | Page: 1 2 > > > > Rupe, Susan > > Father: Rupe, Gilead Mother: , > > Birth Date: 1810 City: > > County: State: KY > > Country: USA > > > > > > Kathy > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Carolyn Gibbons" <c.n.gibbons@worldnet.att.net> > > To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:18 PM > > Subject: [MOHOWARD-L] Susan Rupe Turner Williams > > > > > > > I find her in the Howard County Cemeteries Book page 769 buried in > Walnut Ridge Cemetery. Willoughby is also there. > > > > > > I find a marriage between Susannah Turner and "Milliby" Williams 18 Sep > 1834 from the Ancestry CD. I talked with someone about 5 > > years ago who said that Susannah and Hannah were sisters, both daughters > of Gilead Rupe and Susan somebody as shown by his probate > > records. I do not have that. I am not able to find it either. I think > it got lost on my hard drive and now has disappeared when I > > changed computers. > > > > > > Carolyn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I find her in the Howard County Cemeteries Book page 769 buried in Walnut Ridge Cemetery. Willoughby is also there. I find a marriage between Susannah Turner and "Milliby" Williams 18 Sep 1834 from the Ancestry CD. I talked with someone about 5 years ago who said that Susannah and Hannah were sisters, both daughters of Gilead Rupe and Susan somebody as shown by his probate records. I do not have that. I am not able to find it either. I think it got lost on my hard drive and now has disappeared when I changed computers. Carolyn

Thanks Carolyn, I found them on page 772. Didn't realize there was a Walnut Ridge Cemetery in the Howard county book. I was checking them in alphabetical order, which seems to be the way they were listed. All I found was Walnut Hill/Walnut Grove. Walnut Ridge was the last cemetery listed, after Yates. If she was a widow when she married the second time (assumming it was a second time), why would she require parental consent? According to GenePool, Gilead did have a daughter Susan, but she was born in 1810. Susan Rupe Turner who married Willoughby was born in 1817. Gene Pool Individual Records - Births Viewing records 11-12 of 12 Matches << Previous 10 | Page: 1 2 Rupe, Susan Father: Rupe, Gilead Mother: , Birth Date: 1810 City: County: State: KY Country: USA Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Gibbons" <c.n.gibbons@worldnet.att.net> To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:18 PM Subject: [MOHOWARD-L] Susan Rupe Turner Williams > I find her in the Howard County Cemeteries Book page 769 buried in Walnut Ridge Cemetery. Willoughby is also there. > > I find a marriage between Susannah Turner and "Milliby" Williams 18 Sep 1834 from the Ancestry CD. I talked with someone about 5 years ago who said that Susannah and Hannah were sisters, both daughters of Gilead Rupe and Susan somebody as shown by his probate records. I do not have that. I am not able to find it either. I think it got lost on my hard drive and now has disappeared when I changed computers. > > Carolyn > > >

Source info History of Randolph and Macon Counties Missouri, St. Louis, National Historical Company 1884. page 575, states: " James M. Willilams (Senior Member of the firm of Williams & Grant, Proprietors of the Renick Milling Company), Mr. Williams is a native of Howard county, Mo., and was born Jun 20, 1842. His father, Wiloby Williams, a native of Kentucky, came to Missouri when a young man and was one of the pioneer settlers of Howard county. His mother, formerly Miss Nancy Hardin, was a Missourian. James M. spent his boyhood on the parental farm and was educated in the common schools of the neighborhood. In 1861, at the age of 20, he removed to Randolph county and resolved to become a fullower in the footsteps of Tubal Cain; this worthy ambition, however was nipped in the bud, for in the fall of the same year, hearing on all side the call, To arms! his youthful spirit was fired by the sound and he rushed forth to taste the fierce joys of war. He enlisted in the Confederate service with Gen. Clark's regiment of infantry and served two years. He was a participant in the battles of Lexington, Mo., Pea Ridge, Ark., and a number of small engagements. In the fall of 1863 he left the army and worked at his trade for six months in St. Louis, then returned to Renick, where he now resides and pursued his honest calling, blacksmithing, for 10 years. In the spring of 1876 he went into partnership with Mr. Grant in the flouring mill and harness-making business. They also have a new brick carriage and wagon factory, and besides are engaged in buying and shipping grain. They have been very successful, shpping some years as many as 30,000 bushels of grain. Mr. Williams is an enterprising, thorough business man, and owes his prosperity in life to his own industry, energy and tact. In was in March, 1864, the first year of his return to Renick, that Mr. Williams, was married, in Randolph county (where he ws both reared and educated), to Miss Sarah M., daughter of James Martin, of the same county. There was born of this union but one child Ethlyn. Mr. W. is identified with the Democratic party, and in the fall of 1880 was elected colleactor of the county and served one term. Mr. and Mrs. Williams are members of the Christian Church, and Mr. W. is a member of the A. O. U. W.

I found Ephriam Turner and James Turner living just a family apart on the 1850 census. Ephriam was still married to a woman named Sally, so I'm guessing it's the Sally Rupe shown in the marriage record that Beth found. Susannah would be a different child, and If my supposition is correct, the neice of Sally and Ephriam Turner. How much you want to bet that Ephriam and James are brothers? Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth DuBois Russo" <elizabethrusso@attbi.com> To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [MOHOWARD-L] Re: Williams Marriages--Howard County--1817-1860 > Beth, Kathy transcribed Susan/Susannah's obit as thus: > ------- > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:32:55 -0500 > From: "Mike & Kathy Bowlin" <mkbowlin@iland.net> > To: MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <004101c0f543$7cc875e0$78cd4ad8@mikesgw> > Subject: [MOHOWARD-L] Higbee News, February 1900 > > 16 Feb 1900--Mrs. Susan Rupe Williams, one of the oldest citizens of Howard > county, > died at her home in Fayette, Monday, aged 82 years. > ------- > This would appear to be the lady in question. So she either was indeed a > very young widow, or her middle name was Rupe. > > Elizabeth > -------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Beth Wilson" <beth@swilson.com> > To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 3:48 PM > Subject: Re: [MOHOWARD-L] Re: Williams Marriages--Howard County--1817-1860 > > > > Howard County Marriages > > Volume 1, page 128 > > 9 February 1823 > > Ephraim Turner and Sally Rupe > > by Thomas Campbell, J.P. > > > > Looks like DAR app. was wrong. > > > > Beth > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Elizabeth DuBois Russo" <elizabethrusso@attbi.com> > > To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 12:22 PM > > Subject: [MOHOWARD-L] Re: Williams Marriages--Howard County--1817-1860 > > > > > > > I have from the DAR application of Patricia Ann Turnage that Susan Rupe > > > married first a Turner, then as a widow married Willoughby Williams. > > > > > > I have from the archives FergyJR giving Susannah/Susan's birth as 25 > > > December 1817 (source?), making her just shy of her 17th birthday at the > > > date of her marriage to Willoughby. > > > > > > Below we have a parent giving consent. She must have been a very young > > > widow? Or Patricia Ann's info was incorrect? Or we have yet another > > > Willoughby? > > > > > > Anyone? > > > > > > Elizabeth > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Beth Wilson" <beth@swilson.com> > > > To: "Elizabeth DuBois Russo" > > > > > > > page 19 > > > > 18 September 1834 > > > > Williams, Williby and Susannah Turner > > > > (parent consent for Susannah, not listed) > > > > by Thomas Turner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Well, cripe, now you guys are going to start making me look through Turner and Rupe stuff! There better not be as many of them as Williams! Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth Wilson" <beth@swilson.com> To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [MOHOWARD-L] Susan Rupe Turner Williams > I looked again, it clearly says that Susannah required parental consent. I > still can't believe that Sally and Susan or Susannah are the same person. > > Beth > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike & Kathy Bowlin" <mkbowlin@iland.net> > To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:02 PM > Subject: Re: [MOHOWARD-L] Susan Rupe Turner Williams > > > > Thanks Carolyn, > > > > I found them on page 772. Didn't realize there was a Walnut Ridge > Cemetery in the Howard county book. I was checking them in > > alphabetical order, which seems to be the way they were listed. All I > found was Walnut Hill/Walnut Grove. Walnut Ridge was the last > > cemetery listed, after Yates. > > > > If she was a widow when she married the second time (assumming it was > a second time), why would she require parental consent? > > > > According to GenePool, Gilead did have a daughter Susan, but she was > born in 1810. Susan Rupe Turner who married Willoughby was > > born in 1817. > > > > Gene Pool Individual Records - Births > > Viewing records 11-12 of 12 Matches > > << Previous 10 | Page: 1 2 > > > > Rupe, Susan > > Father: Rupe, Gilead Mother: , > > Birth Date: 1810 City: > > County: State: KY > > Country: USA > > > > > > Kathy > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Carolyn Gibbons" <c.n.gibbons@worldnet.att.net> > > To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:18 PM > > Subject: [MOHOWARD-L] Susan Rupe Turner Williams > > > > > > > I find her in the Howard County Cemeteries Book page 769 buried in > Walnut Ridge Cemetery. Willoughby is also there. > > > > > > I find a marriage between Susannah Turner and "Milliby" Williams 18 Sep > 1834 from the Ancestry CD. I talked with someone about 5 > > years ago who said that Susannah and Hannah were sisters, both daughters > of Gilead Rupe and Susan somebody as shown by his probate > > records. I do not have that. I am not able to find it either. I think > it got lost on my hard drive and now has disappeared when I > > changed computers. > > > > > > Carolyn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I looked again, it clearly says that Susannah required parental consent. I still can't believe that Sally and Susan or Susannah are the same person. Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike & Kathy Bowlin" <mkbowlin@iland.net> To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [MOHOWARD-L] Susan Rupe Turner Williams > Thanks Carolyn, > > I found them on page 772. Didn't realize there was a Walnut Ridge Cemetery in the Howard county book. I was checking them in > alphabetical order, which seems to be the way they were listed. All I found was Walnut Hill/Walnut Grove. Walnut Ridge was the last > cemetery listed, after Yates. > > If she was a widow when she married the second time (assumming it was a second time), why would she require parental consent? > > According to GenePool, Gilead did have a daughter Susan, but she was born in 1810. Susan Rupe Turner who married Willoughby was > born in 1817. > > Gene Pool Individual Records - Births > Viewing records 11-12 of 12 Matches > << Previous 10 | Page: 1 2 > > Rupe, Susan > Father: Rupe, Gilead Mother: , > Birth Date: 1810 City: > County: State: KY > Country: USA > > > Kathy > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carolyn Gibbons" <c.n.gibbons@worldnet.att.net> > To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:18 PM > Subject: [MOHOWARD-L] Susan Rupe Turner Williams > > > > I find her in the Howard County Cemeteries Book page 769 buried in Walnut Ridge Cemetery. Willoughby is also there. > > > > I find a marriage between Susannah Turner and "Milliby" Williams 18 Sep 1834 from the Ancestry CD. I talked with someone about 5 > years ago who said that Susannah and Hannah were sisters, both daughters of Gilead Rupe and Susan somebody as shown by his probate > records. I do not have that. I am not able to find it either. I think it got lost on my hard drive and now has disappeared when I > changed computers. > > > > Carolyn > > > > > > > >