While in Fayette, I copied documents from the estate of Elizabeth Williams thinking she was from "my" branch of the Williams. I eventually discovered she was the widow of Merrit Williams. I've seen their names in deed records as well. Anyone know who this couple were? Anyone interested in this Elizabeth's estate, let me know, because I copied various documents such as her doctor bills, etc. Lynn, if you check the other messages, I think Kathy and Beth and Carolyn and everyone are figuring out the various Mary J's etc. Elizabeth ----- Original Message ----- From: <Nana1543@aol.com> To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [MOHOWARD-L] Williams probate > Ooops ... sorry about this, it would help if checked my notes .. lol. > > found this in my notes tho. > > "Third marrige of Montraville 1879 no issue. > To Mary J. Williams b. 1838 Howard Co. Mo. d. July 1918 bur. Salem Cem. > Dau of Merril & Eliz. Williams." > > Does that help? > Lynne :-) > > > In a message dated 9/11/2002 1:44:35 PM Central Standard Time, > Nana1543@aol.com writes: > > > > Hi, > > I'm sorry got behind on my mail and just saw your email today. > > > > Also, sorry I don't know which Mary J. Williams she is. I have she was > > born > > about 1837, and married Montraville Reynolds between 1877-1880. > > > > Sorry, wish I had more to share. > > > >

Ooops ... sorry about this, it would help if checked my notes .. lol. found this in my notes tho. "Third marrige of Montraville 1879 no issue. To Mary J. Williams b. 1838 Howard Co. Mo. d. July 1918 bur. Salem Cem. Dau of Merril & Eliz. Williams." Does that help? Lynne :-) In a message dated 9/11/2002 1:44:35 PM Central Standard Time, Nana1543@aol.com writes: > Hi, > I'm sorry got behind on my mail and just saw your email today. > > Also, sorry I don't know which Mary J. Williams she is. I have she was > born > about 1837, and married Montraville Reynolds between 1877-1880. > > Sorry, wish I had more to share.

Some people are asking where the information that I am posting comes from. To save time this will explain it to one and all. Beth I live in southern California. In the 80's I was looking for documentation for my husband's ancestors in Howard, Boone, and Randoph Counties with little luck. I bought about 100 rolls of microfilm from the MO State Archives, mostly land records but some vital records and probate records for several MO counties in central and east central MO. I started reading through the land deed books page by page and abstracting the family relationships that I found from the beginnings of each county through about the time of the 1850 census or a bit later. As you probably know land deeds indexes do not contain all the names found in land deeds. I entered this information into a spread sheet database on my computer. Not all counties are done yet. Worked on it for 8 years pretty solid but now the pace is much much slower. This is where the land research you see comes from.

Hi, I'm sorry got behind on my mail and just saw your email today. Also, sorry I don't know which Mary J. Williams she is. I have she was born about 1837, and married Montraville Reynolds between 1877-1880. Sorry, wish I had more to share. Lynne In a message dated 9/9/2002 8:26:04 PM Central Standard Time, elizabethrusso@attbi.com writes: > > Do you know which Williams Mary J. belongs to who married Montraville > Reynolds? > > Elizabeth > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Nana1543@aol.com> > To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 12:43 PM > Subject: Re: [MOHOWARD-L] Williams probate > > > > Montraville (1826-1898) md. (1) Sarah E. Feland (2) Martha Ann Kirby > >

According to Book 4 page 271 (Howard Co Marriages) John Thurman md "Miss Brashear" Aug 1877. I have not yet gotten to that part of the microfilm of the original marriages. This was from the county clerk's marriage index. I can tell you tonight what the rest of the record says and who married them. Possibly where. Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <mrhq9@sbcglobal.net> To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 1:07 AM Subject: [MOHOWARD-L] John Thurman/Margaret Ann Brashear > Does anyone have any information on John Thurman m. to Margaret Ann Brashear? Margaret Ann was the daughter of Cassandra Williams and George W. Brashear. I have only approximate dates for their dates of birth (1837/1847) and no date for their marriage. John Thurman was married previously, and I know the name of one son by that marriage - Marvin Thurman. I've heard that John and Margaret had about four children. I know the name of only one - Cassandra Thurman. Would really appreciate some help on these people. > > Ruth Harbison > > >

Does anyone have any information on John Thurman m. to Margaret Ann Brashear? Margaret Ann was the daughter of Cassandra Williams and George W. Brashear. I have only approximate dates for their dates of birth (1837/1847) and no date for their marriage. John Thurman was married previously, and I know the name of one son by that marriage - Marvin Thurman. I've heard that John and Margaret had about four children. I know the name of only one - Cassandra Thurman. Would really appreciate some help on these people. Ruth Harbison

Just FYI, the Mary Ann Catharine Williams (married Joseph Snavely), the Sudy (should be Judy) Williams (married Ephraim Snavely, and the Margaret A. Williams (married John Craig) are all daughters of Joseph L. Williams (1789 - 1862) and Susan Woodson (1799 - 1863). Joseph L.Williams comes from a Williams line out of Cumberland County, VA, and as far as I can tell is not connected to the other Williams line being discussed. This information comes from the book The Williams Family of Cumberland County, Virginia and Their Westward Migration by Linda Stufflebean, June 2001. Patrick Phillips ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth Wilson" <beth@swilson.com> To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 12:05 AM Subject: [MOHOWARD-L] Williams Marriages--Howard County--1817-1860 > Keep in mind that you can sometimes sort these people out into neighborhoods > and families by watching the name of the minister or justice of the peace > and finding them all together or nearby each other in the censuses. > > > Howard County Marriages > 1816-34 > > Page 10 > 6 April 1817 > Williams, Giles(?) L. and Jane Burch > by John Munro J.P. > > page 93 > 21 February 1821 > Williams, Nancy and James Roberts > by Augustus Storrs J.P. > > page 149 > 11 August 1825 > Williams, Samuel and Nancy Monroe > by Ebenezer Rodgers, M. G. > > page 151 > 20 March 1825 > Williams, Benjamin and Nancy Andrews > by Adam C. Woods, J.P. > > page 157 > 1 (?) 1825(?) > Prairie Township > Williams, Wm. and Ann Titus > by A. (?) Thomson, J.P. > > page 170 > 21 November 1826 > Williams, Perlina and John Jacks > by John Harvey, J.P. > > page 206 > 29 January 1829 > Williams, Powel and Sally Gragg > by Nicholas S. Burckhartt, J.P. > > page 212 > 10 March 1829 > Williams, Sarah and James Holman of Randolph County > by Thos. Fristoe, P.G. > (A Sarah Holman is the daughter of Benjamin Williams in a Howard County land > deed, volume T, page 139.) > > page 218 > 27 October 1829 > Williams, Nancy and George A. Grant of Boone County > by Ebenezer Rodgers, M.G. > > page 235 > 15 February 1831 > Williams, Mahala and Howard Chism of Cooper County > (parental consent given for Mahala, not named) > by Thomas Turner, P.G. > (Mahala is the heir of Colden Williams.) > > page 255 > 16 October 1832 > Williams, John P. and Amanda C. Williams > by R.N. Kelley, P.G. > > page 255 > 2 June 1832 > Williams, Josiah and Patsy Cooper > by A.C .Woods, J.P. > (Patsy is probably the widow of Benjamin Cooper, deceased.) > > > > Howard County Marriages > 1834-44 > > page 4 > 24 December 1833 > Williams, Polly and John Minter > by Asay Bartee, M.G. > > page 6 > 5 September 1833 > Williams, Colden and Margaret Evans > (Margaret, a minor, parent consent mentioned but not listed) > by Thomas Turner, P.G. > > page 17 > 23 October 1834 > Williams, Mariah and Washington Wright > by Thomas Fristoe, P.G. > (A Maria Wright is the daughter of Benjamin Williams in a Howard County land > deed, volume T, page 138.) > > page 18 > 12 October 1834 > Williams, Eliza and Harrison Minter > by Joseph Bonnel, J. P. for Prairie Township > > page 19 > 17 February 1834 > Williams, William and Hannah Rupe(?) > by Thomas Turner > > page 19 > 18 September 1834 > Williams, Williby and Susannah Turner > (parent consent for Susannah, not listed) > by Thomas Turner > > page 20 > 20 January 1835 > Williams, Cassel Dany(?) and George Brashear > (parent consent for Cassel, not listed) > by Thomas Turner > (George and Cassander Brashear are part of a land partition for Uriah > Williams, deceased in 1844.) > > page 28 > 7 July 1835 > Williams, Mary and William Hughes > by Isaac S. House, M.G. > > page 34 > 25 August 1835 > Williams, Price and Luisa Fauster > by Thomas Fristoe, P.G. > > page 42 > 26 September 1830 > Williams, Samuel and Patsey Morris > by Joel H. Haden > > page 45 > 24 April 1836 > Williams, Richard and Elizabeth Tuttle(?) > by Thomas McBride, Eld. Chr. Ch > > page 62 > 23 December 1835(?) > Williams, Merrit and Elizabeth Lee > by Lynch Turner > > page 82 > 19 December 1837 > Williams, William of Calloway County and Nancy Brunts > by Fielding Wilhite, P.G. > > page 89 > 20 March 1838 > Williams, Malesy(?) and James Biven(?) > by John F. Thompson, J.P. > > page 106 > 20 December 1838 > Williams, Mary Ann Catharine and Joseph Snavely > by William Shores, M.G. > > page 107 > 4 April 1839 > Williams, Nancy and Washington L. Blanton > by H.L. Boon, M.G. > > page 115 > 3 July 1839 > Williams, Mary and Lewis A. Herndon > by William Shores > > page 117 > 14 August 1839 > Williams, Sarah and Micajah Golden > by Lewis Rob__?, J.P. in Chariton Township > > page 135 > 25(?) July 1840 > Williams, Elizabeth and Irvin Lee > by James Wallace, J.P. > > page 164 > 7 January 1841 > Williams, Cyrena and Samuel B. Green > by Rev. William Shores, Elder in the M.E. Church > > page 168 > 28 January 1841 > Williams, Cary and William T. Brown > by William M. Burton > > page 197 > 16 April 1842 > Williams, Purlina and High Watson > by Louis Robion, J.P. > > page 205 > 9 September 1842 > Williams, William and Jennetta Blakley > by John Sweetham, J.P.(?) > > page 208 > 15 December 1842 > Williams, Margaret and Reuben Watts > by George E. Taylor, Elder of Church of Christ > (Reuben and Margaret Watts are part of a land partition for Uriah Williams, > deceased in 1844.) > > page 246 > 19 December 1843 > Williams, John and Nancy Jane Montgomery > by James Wallace, J.P. > > > > Howard County Marriages > 1845-64 > > > page 1 > 13 March 1846 > Williams, George W. and Mary Ann Stephenson > by Moses H. McMurtry(?) > (A George W. Williams is part of a land partition for Uriah Williams, > deceased in 1844.) > > page 5 > 23 January 1844 > Williams, Margaret A. and John M. Crag > by James M. Butts, M.G. > > page 8 > 13 February 1844 > Williams, Martha Ann and Robt. S. Prewitt > by William M. Burton > (Martha is the daugher of Frances Williams.) > > page 27 > 1 April 1845 > Williams, Mary Ann and William Hill, both of Booneslick Township > by James C. Haberling, M.G. > > page 31 > 11 June 1845 > Williams, Marando and John L. Nolen of Randolph County > by James M. Butts, M.G. > > page 38 > 9 December 1845 > Williams, Mary Frances and Julius C. Withers > by Thomas Fristoe, P.G. > (Mary is heir of Uriah Williams.) > > page 63 > 20 January 1847 > Williams, Nancy Jane and Robert Elliott > by James Wallace, J.P. > > page 90 > 26 September 1848 > Williams, Sarah P. and Alfred Peeler > by Winthrop H. Hopson, elder in the Christian Church > > page 101 > 1 February 1849 > Williams, Martha Jane and Edmund C. Foster of Randolph County > by Green Cary of the Baptist Church > (Martha was an heir of Uriah Williams, deceased.) > > page 106 > 29 March 1848 > Williams, Elizabeth and Wilson Skiles > by Wm. R. Heath, J.P. > > page 110 > 19 December 1848 > Williams, Eliza Jane and James Gearheart > by James Mitchell with consent of parents, not named > > page 112 > 29 August 1849 > Williams, Maria and John W. Henry > by Winthrop H. Hopson, Elder of Christian Church at Fayette > (Maria is a daugher of Frances Williams, deceased.) > > page 139 > 7(?) February 1850 > Williams, Alford and Lucy Ann Cooper > by Fielding Wilhite, M.G. > > page 140 > 11 August 1850 > Williams, Mary and J.D.(?) Myres > by John McCune > > page 160 > 22 May 1851 > Williams, Priscilla and John Thompson > by William K. Woods. M.G. > > page 175 > 10 April 1852 > Williams, Rachel Ann and John Gearhart > by A.H. Lee, J. P. > > page 175 > 16 April 1852 > Williams, Isaac and Dian Yowell > by A.H.Lee, J.P. > > page 179 > 22 February 1852 > Williams, Sarah E. and Wm. H. Morris > by J.W. Terrill, P.G. > > page 186 > 20 April 1852 > Williams, Rachael Ann and John Gearhartt > by A.H. Lee, J. P. > > page 209 > 21 July 1853 > Williams, Nancy B. and James G. Allison, neither of them members of any > Religious Society > by John F. Clarke, M.G. > > page 231 > 2 August 1854 > Williams, Nancy and Thomas Magruder > by James McCafferty J.P. > > page 286 > 14 May 1857 > Williams, Mary A. and George W. Brashears > by Noah Flood, M.G. > > page 312 > 22 July 1858 > Williams, Isaac and Susan Dehaven > by Wm. G. Peters, J.P. > > page 312 > 22 August 1858 > Williams, Mary D. and J. St. Clair Hardin > by Wm. H. Morris > > page 327 > 20 January 1859 > Williams, Sudy(?) Francis and Ephragm(?) Snavely > by William Shores, M. G. of M.E. Church South > > page 335 > 12(?) June 1859 > Williams, Margaret and Owen Magruder > by Jesse Terrill > > page 339 > 2 October 1859 > Williams, Willoughby C. and Martha J. Gatewood > by James Barnes, M.G. > > page 353 > 17 April 1860 > Williams, John C. residing in Rocheport, Boone County and Eliza(?) > Winfred(?) Tindall, her father giving consent > by T.M. Allen, M.G. > > page 355 > 24 April 1860 > Williams, Alexander and Mary Hennepin > by N.M. Bonham > > > More Coming. > > > Beth Wilson > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Linda, "My" John Thomas Magruder was married at least two times - first to Ann Threlkeld and second to Nancy Hardin Williams, a widow. From what I have seen John Thomas Magruder appears to have gone by his middle name "Tom" or "Thomas" and quite honestly I don't know where anyone ever saw that his full name was John Thomas Magruder but seems to be the way it has been passed down thru the years. Having said that, I also know that this John Thomas Magruder lived to be quite an old man, and the obituary you shared below is his, showing that he lived to be in his 90's. Depending on which source you look at, his year of birth is apparently anywhere from 1793 to 1800. The children you say must be grandchildren below really are his children by the second wife Nancy. Although I am descended from his first wife, Ann Threlkeld, I also know descendants of his 2nd wife Nancy and they have done substantial research on this family. I have a feeling the 1860 census which shows Nancy's age as 65 is not correct. . . she may have been closer to 45 than 65 in 1860. Considering her father James Hardin was born in 1790 it's impossible that she was born in 1795 ! I have to believe that she was substantially younger than her husband John Thomas, and thus was able to have the "second batch" of children with him in the 1850's -60's. The 1817 year of birth you show for her below seems a lot more reasonable. I have not found anything to show when Nancy died or where she was buried, but according to the census records you have below, she must have died some time between 1860 & 1880. The interesting thing about John Thomas Magruder is that according to the Howard County Cemetery Records book, he is buried in two different places - OR - there were two different Thomas Magruders who were virtually the same age. There is a Thomas Magruder listed as being buried in the Enyart Cemetery (which no longer exists). Here (page 146) it says he was born June 14, 1793 in VA, and died June 14, 1891 (which corresponds with the obituary you have below). Then on page 327 of the same book, a "Magruder Cemetery # 2" is listed and in it is buried a John Thomas Magruder. Here it says he was born in Culpeper County, VA in 1793 and died in 1891. It goes on to say that he first married Ann Threlkeld in 1819 then Nancy Hardin Williams in 1854. It also says he came to Missouri in 1836 with his wife Ann and children. It also shows Ann Threlkeld being buried here with her dates 1893 - 1854. Her birth year must be a typo so I am assuming it should be 1793 and NOT 1893. If Nancy was also buried here, her grave is unmarked or the headstone has been destroyed. The late Mildred "Midge" Crawford of Columbia, MO wrote an extensive book on the Howard County Magruder clan many years ago and the information shown below comes from there. (I know there is a copy of this book in the Fayette City Library should you ever have the opportunity to visit there). This book also contains a lot of information on the other families that married into the Magruders, such as Robb, Morris, Green, Ware. This Magruder book contains the following information about John Thomas Magruder: He was the son of Josiah Magruder (Oct. 25, 1774 - Sept. 29, 1838) and Elizabeth Sutherland (1771 - March 13, 1863). This family moved from Maryland to Culpeper County, VA, to Shelby County, KY. Josiah & Elizabeth are buried in the Kiphart Graveyard, East Shelby County, 1.5 miles west of Defoe, KY on Hwy 421. John Thomas Magruder was the oldest of the couple's 11 children and was born in Culpeper County, VA on June 14, 1793. He married first Ann Threlkeld, daughter of Daniel Threlkeld, on Oct. 13 or 19, 1819 (two different dates are shown on two different pages) in Shelby County, KY. Ann's dates are given as 1798 - ca. 1854 on one page and then as 1792 - 1836 on the very next page, so not sure what the source was for these or which if any are correct. He then married Nancy Hardin Williams, widowed daughter of James Hardin. Her dates are given as 1817 - 1879 (source not specified). Midge Crawford's book goes on to say that "He was listed as Thomas in the 1830 Henry Co., KY, census, and in 1823, he had 100 acres from Dupey Estate, part of Tylers 2,000 Acre Survey, Shelby and Henry County, KY." After the death of his first wife Ann, he moved to Howard County, MO, where he married Nancy. "At his death in 1891 the Howard County Advertiser printed 'Death of a Centenarian.' He was the oldest living man in the county at 91, with only five of his eight children living. He was a farmer, a Baptist and is buried in the family cemetery." John Thomas Magruder's children with Ann Threlkeld are listed as follows: 1. Travis Magruder (1820 - 1880) married Nancy E. Graves* (1829 - Sept. 17, 1897) 2. Elizabeth Magruder (1824 - 1879) married William H. Morris (son of Nathaniel & Nancy Williams Morris). This Nancy Williams Morris is the daughter of Alfred/Alford Williams and this Williams family is apparently not connected to the other Williams line currently being discussed ! Nathaniel & Nancy Williams Morris are my gr-gr-gr-gr-gr-grandparents, though not from this line. 3. Daniel Magruder (1826 - 1896) married Amanda George (1821 - ?). 4. Amos Magruder (1827 - 1910) married Sarah Jane "Sally" Graves* (1830 -1915). These are my gr-gr-gr-grandparents. 5. Josiah (Silas) Magruder (1829 - 1862) married Eleanor Graves* (1830 - 1905). * Nancy, Sally, and Eleanor Graves are sisters and daughters of David P. Graves & Phoebe Mahurin Graves. John Thomas Magruder's children with Nancy Hardin Williams are listed as follows: 1. Joella Magruder (Aug. 22, 1855 - July 27, 1924) married Romulous Caliphurnia Wayland (May 27, 1848 - March 4, 1932). 2. Ben Thomas Magruder (1858 - 1935) married Betty Robb, daughter of Nathaniel Robb. 3. Ara Price Magruder (1860 - 1899) married Robert Stapleton. So, yes, John Thomas Magruder was fathering children into his 60's !! He had grandchildren older than his youngest children. I will not vouch for the dates given in the information above as I have found several mistakes and typos in this book when I have gone back thru to validate information on my direct lines. For the most part, the family relations are very reliable. I have used this as a starting point for my own research then tried to verify dates from what sources I can find. She takes the Magruder family all the way back to the original immigrant to America, Alexander Magruder, who was born in Perthshire, Scotland in 1610. He settled in Maryland where he eventually owned over 4,000 acres. Hope this helps. If you need more info on this family let me know. Patrick Phillips ----- Original Message ----- From: <JUPEP@aol.com> To: <pjphillips@socket.net>; <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [MOHOWARD-L] Descendants of Uriah M. Williams and Mary "Polly" Thompson Hi Patrick I have a little mix-up here, I believe. I think I have the same guy????? But if so, census shows different age for Nancy Hardin...I'm confused. I have Thomas Magruder born abt 1796, VA married to Nancy Ann UNKNOWN. I have her born abt 1795 I show this Thomas died 1891, near Burton, Howard Co., MO. I have the children you mentioned as of this couple with notes on the youngest that they would have to be grandchildren, not children due to the age of Nancy. Then I also have John Thomas Magruder, b 1793, Culpeper Co., VA, married 1819, Shelby Co., KY. to Ann THRELKELD. Children Amos and Joseph. Then married to Nancy HARDIN, born abt 1817. 1850 Howard Co., MO 162a Thos. Magruder, 58, m, farmer, 4000, VA Ann, 58, f, KY Danl., 26, m, KY Jane, 18, f, MO Dennis, 15, m, KY, in school Mary, 14, f, MO, in school Owen, 13, m, MO, in school 1860 Prairie Twsp., Howard Co., MO Thos. Magruder, 64, m, farmer, 2000, 10000, VA Nancy, 65, f, domestic, MO Joella, 5, f, MO Benjamin, 2, m, MO Ann ? J./T. Williams, 15, f, domestic, MO Orson Magruder, 22, m, farmer, 1000, 350, MO, illiterate Margaret Magruder, 24, f, domestic, MO, illiterate 1880 Prairie Twsp Magruder Thos 84 m Farmer VA MD VA Widowed Magruder Benj T 22 m Son Farmer MO VA KY Magruder Price 18 f Dau Keeping House MO VA KY I believe the above children are grandchildren. They could not be children. 1891 The Higbee News 20 June 1891--Uncle Tommie McGruder living near Burton, died the first of the week, aged 91 years. ®292 Please help!!! Linda Manning In a message dated 9/7/02 4:19:51 PM, pjphillips@socket.net writes: << I have a connection to this family in that Nancy Hardin Williams, widow of Willoughby Williams, married as her second husband John Thomas Magruder, who was my gr-gr-gr-gr-grandfather. The information I have shows that Nancy Hardin Williams was the widowed daughter of James Hardin, but I didn't previously have any information on who her first husband was before she married John Thomas Magruder. She & John Thomas Magruder were married in Howard County on Aug. 2, 1854, so your Willoughby Williams must have died prior to that. John Thomas Magruder and Nancy Hardin Williams Magruder had 3 children together: Joella Magruder (married Romulous Caliphurnia Wayland), Ben Thomas Magruder (married Betty Robb), and Ara Price Magruder (married Robert Stapleton). >>

For all of you tired of Williams!! Howard County Land Deeds Volume A, pages 26,27 6 October 1816 Shelly, George, Sr., dec. Daughters: Mary Coreathers(sp?); Susannah Menser; Sarah Shelly. Sons: Daniel Shelly; Abraham Shelly; George Shelly; John Shelly. Volume B, page 175, 176 19 April 1818 Smith, Thomas, dec. Will. Daughters; Anne Patterson; Sarah Smith; Sons: Andrew Smith; Cornelius Smith; Robert Smith; Thomas Smith, dec.; Granddaughters: Elizabeth Smith; Mahaley Smith; Susannah Smith. Grandsons: John Smith; Woodson Smith. (All grandchildren except John are the children of son Thomas.) (John Smith is the son of Sarah Smith.) Volume I, page 216 20 March 1826 Winn, John, dec. Widow: Elenor Winn Daughters: Jemima Hurt, wife of Peyton; Mary Hurt, wife of William; Sarah Runyon, wife of Isaac. Sons: James Winn, wife Rebecca; John Winn, wife Rebecca; Martin Winn; William Winn, wife Milly. Volume I, page 427, 428 21 March 1826 Foster, James S., dec. Widow: Margaret Foster Daughters: Jane Foster; Permelia Foster; Nancy Foster. Sons: George Foster; James S. Foster; Josiah Foster. Volume K, page 477 9 August 1827 Graham, Robert, dec. of Bourbon County, Kentucky Brother-in-law: Charles Calloway of Howard County Son: James Graham of Bourbon County Daughters: Mary Graham; Matilday Graham; both of Bourbon County Volume I, page 623 20 September 1828 Temple, Margaret Son: George W. Walker Daughter: Frances W. Walker Volume K, page 171 5 September 1829 Jonathan Finnell Daughter: Susannah Green, wife of William. Volume K, page 198 29 October 1829 Marriage contract between William Tolson and Polly Smith Volume P, page 40 9 November 1829 Sarah Morin, wife of John. Daughter: Mary Munro, wife of George of Cooper County. Volume K, page 425 2 March 1830 Patrick, Ann, widow of Robert next marriage to Presley W. Halley Volume K, page 327 7 June 1830 Prewitt, Price, dec. Widow: Martha A. Prewitt Son: Asa Prewitt Daughters: Ann Prewitt; Caroline Prewitt; Elvira Prewitt. Volume K, page 388 21 October 1830 Marriage agreement between Thomas Reynolds of KY and Agness Stephenson of MO Volume L, page 39 26 April 1831 Hardeman, John Lock Father: John Hardeman, dec. of Cole County Volume L, page 55 11 July 1831 Gaw, John, dec. Daughter: Barbary Ann Boggs, wife of Jas. C. Volume L, page 91 11 October 1831 Maupin, Garland D., dec. Daughter: Tillitha Gates, wife of Jefferson Volume N, page 300 31 May 1832 Crigler, Christopher, dec. Heirs in Howard County: Alexander and Jane Bradley; George Crigler; John and Caty Wilhite; Adam C. and Eizabeth Woods. Heirs in Madison County, Kentucky: Madison and Polly Colvin; John Crigler, Jr.; William G. and Frances McWilliams. Volume L, page 417 6 October 1832 Walker, John, dec. of New Madrid County Heirs: Pamela Walker Martin; Federal Walker; Mary Walker; Thomas Jefferson Walker; all of Howard County. Volume L, page 502 29 October 1832 Padgett, William, dec. Heirs: John and Delina Cunningham; John W. and Sally Morris; Polly Padgett. Volume L, page 476 11 April 1833 Marriage intention Thomas Eddins and Elizabeth Harrison, widow of John Children of John and Elizabeth Harrison: Joseph; Lucy; Mary; and William. Volume N, page 293 31 August 1833 Robertson, James, dec. of Campbell County, VA Daughters: Rachel P. Bell, wife of John M. of Chariton County; Rachel Woodson, wife of Richard of Howard County. Volume M, page 115 28 October 1833 Lewis, Jedidah S., wife of Thomas, and daughter of Benjamin Whitehead. Sons of Jedidah: William J. Lewis; Thomas H. Lewis; James W. Lewis; Benjamin W. Lewis. Daughters of Jedidah; Eliza Lewis; Sally S. Lewis. Volume M, page 122 1 February 1834 Simpson, Mary, wife of Joseph New name is Mary Dobbin. Volume M, page 383 25 March 1834 Witt, Elisha B., dec. Widow: Lydia Dykes, wife of Benjamin, of Clark County, KY. Brother: Littleberry Witt and wife Fanny. Volume M, page 379 19 May 1834 Witt, Elisha B., dec. Sisters; Elizabeth Mize, wife of Joshua; Milly Rodgers, wife of Hiram; both of Estill County, KY. Volume M, page 374 18 December 1834 Marriage Agreement Benjamin Hays and Penelope Boon Volume M, pages 418, 419 20 January 1835 Cason, George Daughters: Agness Howell, wife of James; Martha Howell, wife of William Volume O, page 451 23 February 1837 Marriage Agreement James Dempsey and Mary Gibbs Volume O, page 458 1 March 1837 Prewitt, Joel Daughters: Mary Ann Burton, wife of Wm. M.; Mary Ann Johnston. Volume W, page 519 19 October 1837 Gibbs, Churchill of Madison County, VA Daughter: Cynthia Bohannon, wife of John R. Beth

This may create more questions than answers, but here goes. I'd like to ask the Williams researchers to compare the following census records. They are the 1850 and 1860 census records for Colden Jef Williams. 1850 US Census, pg 261A, Prairie Twp, Randolph co, MO, 2 Nov 1850. Dwelling 862, Family 862. C. J. Williams, 39 year old white male, farmer, $1000, KY Margaret Williams, 37 year old white female, KY Mary Williams, 15 year old white female, MO Margaret Williams, 12 year old white female, MO William Williams, 9 year old white male, MO Euriah Williams, 6 year old white male, MO Jeffers Williams, 6 year old white male, MO Eliza Williams, 4 year old white female, MO Tailer Williams, 2 year old white male, MO Euphemia Williams, 1 year old white female, MO Martha Williams, 4 year old white female, MO. 1860 US Census, Prairie Twp, Randolph county, MO, 13 June 1860. C. J. Williams, 49 year old white male, farmer, $7200-$16,123, KY Mary J. Marshall, 26 year old white female, MO Wm. J. Williams, 20 year old white male, MO Uriah Williams, 18 year old white male, MO Eliga Williams, 16 year old white male, MO Elizabeth Williams, 11 year old white female, MO Taylor Williams, 14 year old white male, MO Sebastion Williams, 9 year old white male, MO James ? Williams, 6 year old white male, MO Uriah J. Williams, 17 year old white male, farmer, MO Martha Williams, 15 year old white female, MO This is the way I see them. In the 1850, there are a Uriah and a Jeffers in this household, both age 6. There is an Eliza and a Martha who are both age 4. And then there is Euphemia who is a year old. These are the children I want to concentrate on. I thought at first that we were dealing with two sets of twins. Then I compared it to the 1860 census. In 1860, the children who I believe were Uriah and Jeffers, have become Uriah age 18 and Uriah J (Jeffers?) age 17. This means they aren't twins. And there are two Uriah's in this household. Eliza Williams, daughter,. age 4 in 1850, has become Elija Williams, male, and age 16 in 1860. Martha, age 4 in 1850 is Martha age 15 in 1860. Tailer age 2 in 1850 is now Taylor age 14 in 1860. And Euphemia, age 1in 1850 has become Elizabeth, age 11 in 1860. Consider this possibility. Suppose it is Uriah, and not Uriah J., who is the son of Colden Jef Williams. And suppose that Uriah J., Martha and Euphemia/Elizabeth are not the children of Colden? Suppose they are the Uriah J, Martha J. and Ann E Williams in the suit, AND that they are the children of Sebastian Williams. I don't know if Sebastian had children. But he was married in 1841 to the sister of Colden's wife. Sebastian didn't die until abt Sep of 1847. If his wife was pregnant at the time of his death, the child could have been born in mid 1848 and could have been the one year old child on the 1850 census. Both Martha and Uriah J. would also fall within the realm of possibility for Sebastian to have fathered them. If this is the case, I have no idea where their mother is, or even if she is living. Nor do I know who the guardians of these children might be. It's possible that they had chosen someone besides Colden to act as their guardian, and that is why they were on the other side of the issue. They would all have been underage as well. I know that this is a lot of wild speculation on my part, and there is no proof to back it up. I just wanted everyone to think about the possibilities. I always jumped to the conclusion that Sebastian had no children, because I couldn't find any for him in 1850. If his wife had also died, or had remarried, it's very possible that the children would be in the household of Colden and his wife. Does anyone have probate on Sebastian? He was living in Randolph county at the time of his death. All I have seen is the transcript done by Ellsberry and it doesn't say much. We need the settlement. Found on Ancestry.com, 7 Sep 2002. Randolph County, Missouri Administration and Will Records 1836-1858 Randolph County, Missouri Bond 1843-1842 Name: Sebastian C. Williams deceased Colden J. Williams , Adm. H. C. Collins , J. W. Walton , and N. B. Christian , Sec. 15 Sept. 1847 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth DuBois Russo" <elizabethrusso@attbi.com> To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [MOHOWARD-L] 1860 Lawsuit naming heirs of Mahala Williams Chism > Dare I ask who Uriah J., Ann E., and Martha J. Williams would be in the list > below? I don't have any Ann E's, and the only Uriah J. and Martha J. I have > are children of Colden J. who is on the other side of the lawsuit. Plus I > think Uriah J. would have been a minor and possibly Martha was married by > 1860. > > Elizabeth > <fighting the temptation to put all the lost Williams in a group with > fictional parents called Zebra and Zoe---why couldn't these folks come up > with unique middle names at least?> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elizabeth DuBois Russo" <elizabethrusso@attbi.com> > To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 7:40 AM > Subject: [MOHOWARD-L] 1860 Lawsuit naming heirs of Mahala Williams Chism > > > > I do have a day job that I need to get back to <g> but I couldn't resist > putting this one more excerpt out there for discussion: > > > > Howard County Deed Book 9, page 132 > > > > "Know all men by these presents that whereas at the June term 1860 of the > Howard Circuit Court Judgment was rendered upon a petition filed therein by > Willoughby Williams, Wm. D. Williams, George W. Williams, Colden, J. > Williams, Josiah Brown, Nancy Brown, Nero M. Thomson, Elizabeth Thomson, > Reuben Watts, Margaret Watts, Edmond C. Foster, Martha J. Foster, Casendara > Brashear and Mary F. Withers, Plaintiffs against John C. Williams, Sarah > Hardin, Uriah Davis, Joseph B. Davis, James C. Davis, Colden Davis, Charles > C. McKinny, Mariah McKinny, Uriah J. Williams, Ann E. Williams, Martha J. > Williams, Leander M. Dehony, Sarah Dehoney, Mary A. Courtney, James M. > Courtney & Thomas Monroe administrator of Mahala Chism deceased, > Defendants...." > > >

Randolph County Probate Records Volume B, 1847-58 page 250 26 November 1850 Colden J. Williams is appointed guardian of Uriah J., Martha Jane, and Ann Eliza Williams, minor heirs of Sebastain C. Williams, dec. Final settlement of the estate, (not included). (When I teach genealogy classes I always tell people never to assume that the people in a census household are related to each other in any way. I could tell you all about my gr-gr-gr-grandfather in Ohio who in 1850 had his children, and the children of his 2 deceased brothers in his household. It was a nightmare for years trying to sort them all out!) Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike & Kathy Bowlin" <mkbowlin@iland.net> To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [MOHOWARD-L] 1860 Lawsuit naming heirs of Mahala Williams Chism > This may create more questions than answers, but here goes. I'd like to ask the Williams researchers to compare the following > census records. They are the 1850 and 1860 census records for Colden Jef Williams. > > 1850 US Census, pg 261A, Prairie Twp, Randolph co, MO, 2 Nov 1850. Dwelling 862, Family 862. > C. J. Williams, 39 year old white male, farmer, $1000, KY > Margaret Williams, 37 year old white female, KY > Mary Williams, 15 year old white female, MO > Margaret Williams, 12 year old white female, MO > William Williams, 9 year old white male, MO > Euriah Williams, 6 year old white male, MO > Jeffers Williams, 6 year old white male, MO > Eliza Williams, 4 year old white female, MO > Tailer Williams, 2 year old white male, MO > Euphemia Williams, 1 year old white female, MO > Martha Williams, 4 year old white female, MO. > > 1860 US Census, Prairie Twp, Randolph county, MO, 13 June 1860. > C. J. Williams, 49 year old white male, farmer, $7200-$16,123, KY > Mary J. Marshall, 26 year old white female, MO > Wm. J. Williams, 20 year old white male, MO > Uriah Williams, 18 year old white male, MO > Eliga Williams, 16 year old white male, MO > Elizabeth Williams, 11 year old white female, MO > Taylor Williams, 14 year old white male, MO > Sebastion Williams, 9 year old white male, MO > James ? Williams, 6 year old white male, MO > Uriah J. Williams, 17 year old white male, farmer, MO > Martha Williams, 15 year old white female, MO > > This is the way I see them. In the 1850, there are a Uriah and a Jeffers in this household, both age 6. There is an Eliza and a > Martha who are both age 4. And then there is Euphemia who is a year old. These are the children I want to concentrate on. I > thought at first that we were dealing with two sets of twins. Then I compared it to the 1860 census. > > In 1860, the children who I believe were Uriah and Jeffers, have become Uriah age 18 and Uriah J (Jeffers?) age 17. This means they > aren't twins. And there are two Uriah's in this household. Eliza Williams, daughter,. age 4 in 1850, has become Elija Williams, > male, and age 16 in 1860. Martha, age 4 in 1850 is Martha age 15 in 1860. Tailer age 2 in 1850 is now Taylor age 14 in 1860. And > Euphemia, age 1in 1850 has become Elizabeth, age 11 in 1860. Consider this possibility. Suppose it is Uriah, and not Uriah J., who > is the son of Colden Jef Williams. And suppose that Uriah J., Martha and Euphemia/Elizabeth are not the children of Colden? > Suppose they are the Uriah J, Martha J. and Ann E Williams in the suit, AND that they are the children of Sebastian Williams. I > don't know if Sebastian had children. But he was married in 1841 to the sister of Colden's wife. Sebastian didn't die until abt > Sep of 1847. If his wife was pregnant at the time of his death, the child could have been born in mid 1848 and could have been the > one year old child on the 1850 census. Both Martha and Uriah J. would also fall within the realm of possibility for Sebastian to > have fathered them. If this is the case, I have no idea where their mother is, or even if she is living. Nor do I know who the > guardians of these children might be. It's possible that they had chosen someone besides Colden to act as their guardian, and that > is why they were on the other side of the issue. They would all have been underage as well. I know that this is a lot of wild > speculation on my part, and there is no proof to back it up. I just wanted everyone to think about the possibilities. > > I always jumped to the conclusion that Sebastian had no children, because I couldn't find any for him in 1850. If his wife had also > died, or had remarried, it's very possible that the children would be in the household of Colden and his wife. > > Does anyone have probate on Sebastian? He was living in Randolph county at the time of his death. All I have seen is the > transcript done by Ellsberry and it doesn't say much. We need the settlement. > > Found on Ancestry.com, 7 Sep 2002. > Randolph County, Missouri Administration and Will Records 1836-1858 > Randolph County, Missouri Bond 1843-1842 > > Name: Sebastian C. Williams > deceased Colden J. Williams , Adm. H. C. Collins , J. W. Walton , and N. B. Christian , Sec. 15 Sept. 1847 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elizabeth DuBois Russo" <elizabethrusso@attbi.com> > To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 4:54 PM > Subject: Re: [MOHOWARD-L] 1860 Lawsuit naming heirs of Mahala Williams Chism > > > > Dare I ask who Uriah J., Ann E., and Martha J. Williams would be in the list > > below? I don't have any Ann E's, and the only Uriah J. and Martha J. I have > > are children of Colden J. who is on the other side of the lawsuit. Plus I > > think Uriah J. would have been a minor and possibly Martha was married by > > 1860. > > > > Elizabeth > > <fighting the temptation to put all the lost Williams in a group with > > fictional parents called Zebra and Zoe---why couldn't these folks come up > > with unique middle names at least?> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Elizabeth DuBois Russo" <elizabethrusso@attbi.com> > > To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 7:40 AM > > Subject: [MOHOWARD-L] 1860 Lawsuit naming heirs of Mahala Williams Chism > > > > > > > I do have a day job that I need to get back to <g> but I couldn't resist > > putting this one more excerpt out there for discussion: > > > > > > Howard County Deed Book 9, page 132 > > > > > > "Know all men by these presents that whereas at the June term 1860 of the > > Howard Circuit Court Judgment was rendered upon a petition filed therein by > > Willoughby Williams, Wm. D. Williams, George W. Williams, Colden, J. > > Williams, Josiah Brown, Nancy Brown, Nero M. Thomson, Elizabeth Thomson, > > Reuben Watts, Margaret Watts, Edmond C. Foster, Martha J. Foster, Casendara > > Brashear and Mary F. Withers, Plaintiffs against John C. Williams, Sarah > > Hardin, Uriah Davis, Joseph B. Davis, James C. Davis, Colden Davis, Charles > > C. McKinny, Mariah McKinny, Uriah J. Williams, Ann E. Williams, Martha J. > > Williams, Leander M. Dehony, Sarah Dehoney, Mary A. Courtney, James M. > > Courtney & Thomas Monroe administrator of Mahala Chism deceased, > > Defendants...." > > > > > > >

Randolph County, Missouri Probate Records Volume B, 1847-58 Page 18 27 September 1847 Court orders that Colden Williams, one of the Adm. of the estate of Sebastian Williams, dec. take charge of the 3 infant children of said dec. and have the 4 negros belonging to said dec. for nurses until otherwise ordered by the court (Many pages to abstract, more coming) Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth Wilson" <beth@swilson.com> To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [MOHOWARD-L] 1860 Lawsuit naming heirs of Mahala Williams Chism > Think I have it, looking. > Beth > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike & Kathy Bowlin" <mkbowlin@iland.net> > To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 7:19 PM > Subject: Re: [MOHOWARD-L] 1860 Lawsuit naming heirs of Mahala Williams Chism > > > > This may create more questions than answers, but here goes. I'd like to > ask the Williams researchers to compare the following > > census records. They are the 1850 and 1860 census records for Colden Jef > Williams. > > > > 1850 US Census, pg 261A, Prairie Twp, Randolph co, MO, 2 Nov 1850. > Dwelling 862, Family 862. > > C. J. Williams, 39 year old white male, farmer, $1000, KY > > Margaret Williams, 37 year old white female, KY > > Mary Williams, 15 year old white female, MO > > Margaret Williams, 12 year old white female, MO > > William Williams, 9 year old white male, MO > > Euriah Williams, 6 year old white male, MO > > Jeffers Williams, 6 year old white male, MO > > Eliza Williams, 4 year old white female, MO > > Tailer Williams, 2 year old white male, MO > > Euphemia Williams, 1 year old white female, MO > > Martha Williams, 4 year old white female, MO. > > > > 1860 US Census, Prairie Twp, Randolph county, MO, 13 June 1860. > > C. J. Williams, 49 year old white male, farmer, $7200-$16,123, KY > > Mary J. Marshall, 26 year old white female, MO > > Wm. J. Williams, 20 year old white male, MO > > Uriah Williams, 18 year old white male, MO > > Eliga Williams, 16 year old white male, MO > > Elizabeth Williams, 11 year old white female, MO > > Taylor Williams, 14 year old white male, MO > > Sebastion Williams, 9 year old white male, MO > > James ? Williams, 6 year old white male, MO > > Uriah J. Williams, 17 year old white male, farmer, MO > > Martha Williams, 15 year old white female, MO > > > > This is the way I see them. In the 1850, there are a Uriah and a Jeffers > in this household, both age 6. There is an Eliza and a > > Martha who are both age 4. And then there is Euphemia who is a year old. > These are the children I want to concentrate on. I > > thought at first that we were dealing with two sets of twins. Then I > compared it to the 1860 census. > > > > In 1860, the children who I believe were Uriah and Jeffers, have become > Uriah age 18 and Uriah J (Jeffers?) age 17. This means they > > aren't twins. And there are two Uriah's in this household. Eliza > Williams, daughter,. age 4 in 1850, has become Elija Williams, > > male, and age 16 in 1860. Martha, age 4 in 1850 is Martha age 15 in 1860. > Tailer age 2 in 1850 is now Taylor age 14 in 1860. And > > Euphemia, age 1in 1850 has become Elizabeth, age 11 in 1860. Consider > this possibility. Suppose it is Uriah, and not Uriah J., who > > is the son of Colden Jef Williams. And suppose that Uriah J., Martha and > Euphemia/Elizabeth are not the children of Colden? > > Suppose they are the Uriah J, Martha J. and Ann E Williams in the suit, > AND that they are the children of Sebastian Williams. I > > don't know if Sebastian had children. But he was married in 1841 to the > sister of Colden's wife. Sebastian didn't die until abt > > Sep of 1847. If his wife was pregnant at the time of his death, the child > could have been born in mid 1848 and could have been the > > one year old child on the 1850 census. Both Martha and Uriah J. would > also fall within the realm of possibility for Sebastian to > > have fathered them. If this is the case, I have no idea where their > mother is, or even if she is living. Nor do I know who the > > guardians of these children might be. It's possible that they had chosen > someone besides Colden to act as their guardian, and that > > is why they were on the other side of the issue. They would all have been > underage as well. I know that this is a lot of wild > > speculation on my part, and there is no proof to back it up. I just > wanted everyone to think about the possibilities. > > > > I always jumped to the conclusion that Sebastian had no children, because > I couldn't find any for him in 1850. If his wife had also > > died, or had remarried, it's very possible that the children would be in > the household of Colden and his wife. > > > > Does anyone have probate on Sebastian? He was living in Randolph county > at the time of his death. All I have seen is the > > transcript done by Ellsberry and it doesn't say much. We need the > settlement. > > > > Found on Ancestry.com, 7 Sep 2002. > > Randolph County, Missouri Administration and Will Records 1836-1858 > > Randolph County, Missouri Bond 1843-1842 > > > > Name: Sebastian C. Williams > > deceased Colden J. Williams , Adm. H. C. Collins , J. W. Walton , and N. > B. Christian , Sec. 15 Sept. 1847 > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Elizabeth DuBois Russo" <elizabethrusso@attbi.com> > > To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 4:54 PM > > Subject: Re: [MOHOWARD-L] 1860 Lawsuit naming heirs of Mahala Williams > Chism > > > > > > > Dare I ask who Uriah J., Ann E., and Martha J. Williams would be in the > list > > > below? I don't have any Ann E's, and the only Uriah J. and Martha J. I > have > > > are children of Colden J. who is on the other side of the lawsuit. Plus > I > > > think Uriah J. would have been a minor and possibly Martha was married > by > > > 1860. > > > > > > Elizabeth > > > <fighting the temptation to put all the lost Williams in a group with > > > fictional parents called Zebra and Zoe---why couldn't these folks come > up > > > with unique middle names at least?> > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Elizabeth DuBois Russo" <elizabethrusso@attbi.com> > > > To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 7:40 AM > > > Subject: [MOHOWARD-L] 1860 Lawsuit naming heirs of Mahala Williams Chism > > > > > > > > > > I do have a day job that I need to get back to <g> but I couldn't > resist > > > putting this one more excerpt out there for discussion: > > > > > > > > Howard County Deed Book 9, page 132 > > > > > > > > "Know all men by these presents that whereas at the June term 1860 of > the > > > Howard Circuit Court Judgment was rendered upon a petition filed therein > by > > > Willoughby Williams, Wm. D. Williams, George W. Williams, Colden, J. > > > Williams, Josiah Brown, Nancy Brown, Nero M. Thomson, Elizabeth Thomson, > > > Reuben Watts, Margaret Watts, Edmond C. Foster, Martha J. Foster, > Casendara > > > Brashear and Mary F. Withers, Plaintiffs against John C. Williams, Sarah > > > Hardin, Uriah Davis, Joseph B. Davis, James C. Davis, Colden Davis, > Charles > > > C. McKinny, Mariah McKinny, Uriah J. Williams, Ann E. Williams, Martha > J. > > > Williams, Leander M. Dehony, Sarah Dehoney, Mary A. Courtney, James M. > > > Courtney & Thomas Monroe administrator of Mahala Chism deceased, > > > Defendants...." > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Think I have it, looking. Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike & Kathy Bowlin" <mkbowlin@iland.net> To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [MOHOWARD-L] 1860 Lawsuit naming heirs of Mahala Williams Chism > This may create more questions than answers, but here goes. I'd like to ask the Williams researchers to compare the following > census records. They are the 1850 and 1860 census records for Colden Jef Williams. > > 1850 US Census, pg 261A, Prairie Twp, Randolph co, MO, 2 Nov 1850. Dwelling 862, Family 862. > C. J. Williams, 39 year old white male, farmer, $1000, KY > Margaret Williams, 37 year old white female, KY > Mary Williams, 15 year old white female, MO > Margaret Williams, 12 year old white female, MO > William Williams, 9 year old white male, MO > Euriah Williams, 6 year old white male, MO > Jeffers Williams, 6 year old white male, MO > Eliza Williams, 4 year old white female, MO > Tailer Williams, 2 year old white male, MO > Euphemia Williams, 1 year old white female, MO > Martha Williams, 4 year old white female, MO. > > 1860 US Census, Prairie Twp, Randolph county, MO, 13 June 1860. > C. J. Williams, 49 year old white male, farmer, $7200-$16,123, KY > Mary J. Marshall, 26 year old white female, MO > Wm. J. Williams, 20 year old white male, MO > Uriah Williams, 18 year old white male, MO > Eliga Williams, 16 year old white male, MO > Elizabeth Williams, 11 year old white female, MO > Taylor Williams, 14 year old white male, MO > Sebastion Williams, 9 year old white male, MO > James ? Williams, 6 year old white male, MO > Uriah J. Williams, 17 year old white male, farmer, MO > Martha Williams, 15 year old white female, MO > > This is the way I see them. In the 1850, there are a Uriah and a Jeffers in this household, both age 6. There is an Eliza and a > Martha who are both age 4. And then there is Euphemia who is a year old. These are the children I want to concentrate on. I > thought at first that we were dealing with two sets of twins. Then I compared it to the 1860 census. > > In 1860, the children who I believe were Uriah and Jeffers, have become Uriah age 18 and Uriah J (Jeffers?) age 17. This means they > aren't twins. And there are two Uriah's in this household. Eliza Williams, daughter,. age 4 in 1850, has become Elija Williams, > male, and age 16 in 1860. Martha, age 4 in 1850 is Martha age 15 in 1860. Tailer age 2 in 1850 is now Taylor age 14 in 1860. And > Euphemia, age 1in 1850 has become Elizabeth, age 11 in 1860. Consider this possibility. Suppose it is Uriah, and not Uriah J., who > is the son of Colden Jef Williams. And suppose that Uriah J., Martha and Euphemia/Elizabeth are not the children of Colden? > Suppose they are the Uriah J, Martha J. and Ann E Williams in the suit, AND that they are the children of Sebastian Williams. I > don't know if Sebastian had children. But he was married in 1841 to the sister of Colden's wife. Sebastian didn't die until abt > Sep of 1847. If his wife was pregnant at the time of his death, the child could have been born in mid 1848 and could have been the > one year old child on the 1850 census. Both Martha and Uriah J. would also fall within the realm of possibility for Sebastian to > have fathered them. If this is the case, I have no idea where their mother is, or even if she is living. Nor do I know who the > guardians of these children might be. It's possible that they had chosen someone besides Colden to act as their guardian, and that > is why they were on the other side of the issue. They would all have been underage as well. I know that this is a lot of wild > speculation on my part, and there is no proof to back it up. I just wanted everyone to think about the possibilities. > > I always jumped to the conclusion that Sebastian had no children, because I couldn't find any for him in 1850. If his wife had also > died, or had remarried, it's very possible that the children would be in the household of Colden and his wife. > > Does anyone have probate on Sebastian? He was living in Randolph county at the time of his death. All I have seen is the > transcript done by Ellsberry and it doesn't say much. We need the settlement. > > Found on Ancestry.com, 7 Sep 2002. > Randolph County, Missouri Administration and Will Records 1836-1858 > Randolph County, Missouri Bond 1843-1842 > > Name: Sebastian C. Williams > deceased Colden J. Williams , Adm. H. C. Collins , J. W. Walton , and N. B. Christian , Sec. 15 Sept. 1847 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elizabeth DuBois Russo" <elizabethrusso@attbi.com> > To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 4:54 PM > Subject: Re: [MOHOWARD-L] 1860 Lawsuit naming heirs of Mahala Williams Chism > > > > Dare I ask who Uriah J., Ann E., and Martha J. Williams would be in the list > > below? I don't have any Ann E's, and the only Uriah J. and Martha J. I have > > are children of Colden J. who is on the other side of the lawsuit. Plus I > > think Uriah J. would have been a minor and possibly Martha was married by > > 1860. > > > > Elizabeth > > <fighting the temptation to put all the lost Williams in a group with > > fictional parents called Zebra and Zoe---why couldn't these folks come up > > with unique middle names at least?> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Elizabeth DuBois Russo" <elizabethrusso@attbi.com> > > To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 7:40 AM > > Subject: [MOHOWARD-L] 1860 Lawsuit naming heirs of Mahala Williams Chism > > > > > > > I do have a day job that I need to get back to <g> but I couldn't resist > > putting this one more excerpt out there for discussion: > > > > > > Howard County Deed Book 9, page 132 > > > > > > "Know all men by these presents that whereas at the June term 1860 of the > > Howard Circuit Court Judgment was rendered upon a petition filed therein by > > Willoughby Williams, Wm. D. Williams, George W. Williams, Colden, J. > > Williams, Josiah Brown, Nancy Brown, Nero M. Thomson, Elizabeth Thomson, > > Reuben Watts, Margaret Watts, Edmond C. Foster, Martha J. Foster, Casendara > > Brashear and Mary F. Withers, Plaintiffs against John C. Williams, Sarah > > Hardin, Uriah Davis, Joseph B. Davis, James C. Davis, Colden Davis, Charles > > C. McKinny, Mariah McKinny, Uriah J. Williams, Ann E. Williams, Martha J. > > Williams, Leander M. Dehony, Sarah Dehoney, Mary A. Courtney, James M. > > Courtney & Thomas Monroe administrator of Mahala Chism deceased, > > Defendants...." > > > > > > >

Dare I ask who Uriah J., Ann E., and Martha J. Williams would be in the list below? I don't have any Ann E's, and the only Uriah J. and Martha J. I have are children of Colden J. who is on the other side of the lawsuit. Plus I think Uriah J. would have been a minor and possibly Martha was married by 1860. Elizabeth <fighting the temptation to put all the lost Williams in a group with fictional parents called Zebra and Zoe---why couldn't these folks come up with unique middle names at least?> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth DuBois Russo" <elizabethrusso@attbi.com> To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 7:40 AM Subject: [MOHOWARD-L] 1860 Lawsuit naming heirs of Mahala Williams Chism > I do have a day job that I need to get back to <g> but I couldn't resist putting this one more excerpt out there for discussion: > > Howard County Deed Book 9, page 132 > > "Know all men by these presents that whereas at the June term 1860 of the Howard Circuit Court Judgment was rendered upon a petition filed therein by Willoughby Williams, Wm. D. Williams, George W. Williams, Colden, J. Williams, Josiah Brown, Nancy Brown, Nero M. Thomson, Elizabeth Thomson, Reuben Watts, Margaret Watts, Edmond C. Foster, Martha J. Foster, Casendara Brashear and Mary F. Withers, Plaintiffs against John C. Williams, Sarah Hardin, Uriah Davis, Joseph B. Davis, James C. Davis, Colden Davis, Charles C. McKinny, Mariah McKinny, Uriah J. Williams, Ann E. Williams, Martha J. Williams, Leander M. Dehony, Sarah Dehoney, Mary A. Courtney, James M. Courtney & Thomas Monroe administrator of Mahala Chism deceased, Defendants...."

Traci - Just a short note. Anne Siler and I found in Salt Lake the proof that Jacob Chism was the father of Sarah Chism md to John Williams. They were in the probate files in the distribution records. I have it somewhere = I will have to dig it out. But she was named (and John Williams her husband was also named) in two of the reports for distribution - I think I remember that one had to do with partitioning the slaves. I have found in my Ancestry database for marriages two marriages for a Mahala Williams - one was in Howard Co to Howard Chism whom we have talked about; the second was in Boone Co to Martin Amos 8 Nov 1835. I have no idea who she was. The reason I believe that Howard Chism married the Mahala Williams who was the daughter of Colden is that his sister Sarah Chism married Mahala's brother John. I have relooked at the record from the Chism Bible which several people (including myself) used for the death date of Mahala Williams Chism. What I see now is "Mahala Chism Departed this life --------- 1837 aged 3 years" There is a spot before the 3 but it does not look to me as if there was a number before it. Could this Mahala have been a child of someone? I can scan this for anyone who is interested. I am sure that Mahala died before Howard married Emily Cline (maybe Young) 16 May 1850. I wonder - if Howard died before the 1860 census, could Emily have moved back to Cooper County where her family probably was? Perhaps I should look there for the Chism children and Emily. Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Traci Wilson-Kleekamp" <twilsonklee@earthlink.net> To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 2:06 PM Subject: Re: [MOHOWARD-L] Howard Chism and children > Beth et. al.. > > Yes -- I have Mahala Williams and Howard Chism in Morgan Co., -- Here's > an email I received from a fellow researcher the last time we had this > discussion: > > Traci: > I have Mahala Williams, last daughter of Colden Williams b May 15, > 1815 in Ky (probably Barren County) and died before 1850 in Cooper > County. Howard Seth Chism b 1806 and died Cooper County. They were > married Feb 13, 1831 (could be Feb 15 as I have seen this date from > others) in Howard County, Mo. They had 6 children Colden b Abt. 1831; > Mary Abt 1833; Sarah Abt 1835; Priscilla Abt 1839; Cornelia Abt 1842 and > Sarah Abt 1847 (2 Sarah's with different dates)e Census for Morgan > County,(Cooper) MO. however I have not checked this. > John Calhoun Williams definitely married Sarah Chism and they lived > in Bonne Femme TWP, Howard County, Mo. They are both buried at New Hope > Cemetery in Howard County. The Cemetery and Church are located in the > eastern part of the county, south of Higbee, MO. and I can give you an > exact location if you are interested. Also their children. Please let > me know if there is anything else that I might have. I still don't > understand how Sara Chism ended up getting married to John in Howard > County when the rest of the family was in Cooper County also I haven't > been able to prove that she is the daughter of Jacob?? Checked Jacob's > will that you were kind enough to post but no mention is made of Sarah > however she and her husband John Williams would not have been a part of > the court proceedings if she was not Jacob's daughter. Thank you for > sharing all the data that you have worked for. Again, let me know if I > can be of any further help. Lou Myers > > AND: > Yes Howard Seth Chism was married twice according to info that I have > No. 1 Mahala Williams, Feb. 15 1831 and No. 2 Emily Cline after > 1847.(Mahala's last child was born in 1847) As to the travel between > Cooper County and Howard Countyin 1830 when John C. Williams and Sara G. > Chism were married. This was before any railroads had been built and > most of the trails and stage coach lines were east west in this part of > the country. The north - south trip and river crossing would have been > difficult to say the least. They were living about 20 miles west of > Fayette in the northeastern part of Howard County so my guess is that it > was probably a hundred miles or more on horseback or 4 to 5 days each > way for a visit. > > Here is Jacob Chism's will: > http://www.missouri-slave-data.org/jchism.jpg > I also have the will of John Langdon Chism who married Frances Cooper > > These chisms are descendents of James Chism and Priscilla Howard > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/o/w/Roy-J-Howard/GENE1-0003.htm l > > By the way -- Howard's father Jacob Chism was a minister of Big Rock > Primative Baptist Church in Morgan CO., MO. I have the church records > for several years if anyone is interested in a look up... these families > that we've been talking about above. > > traci wilson-kleekamp > >

Because of the later marriage to Emily Cline (I did find an earlier marriage of Emily Young to Abraham Cline 7 Apr 1835 in Pettis Co MO - and may or may not be the same one) I have to assume that Mahala Williams Chism died before 1850. And there is a note in the Chism Bible that she died ---- 1837 aged -3 years. But on the 1850 census there are Priscilla b ca 1840, Cornelia b ca 1843 and Sarah b ca 1848. Now, were these children from a second (and Emily 3rd) marriage; were these children from Emily Young who was married to Abraham Cline; or is there more than one Mahala in this mix? I did find them on the 1850 census (Howard Chism and an Emily) Haw Creek Twp, Morgan Co. I just searched the on Ancestry.com list Haw Creek Twp Morgan Co MO 1860 and found several Chisms (relatives) and other relatives - Thurston and McClanahans. I will later go through more of Morgan Co. And perhaps I should check out Cooper Co. Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth DuBois Russo" <elizabethrusso@attbi.com> To: <MOHOWARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 9:27 AM Subject: [MOHOWARD-L] Howard Chism and children > I just found a posting in the archives about children of Howard and Mahala. It involves an 1850 census with an Emily Cline being married to a Howard Chism, with assumptions there being made that Howard married Emily second and combined the families. I'm now really confused. > > I guess I need to now add court and probate records for Mahala to my list of documents to look for. > > Or does someone have this figured out? Was there a divorce? Or are we back to thinking there were two Howard Chism's? How else did any Chisms miss out on getting this land outright at Mahala's death? (I'm beginning to see why there was a lawsuit--to detangle this mess!) > > E > > Elizabeth > >

Here's my question that perhaps I missed the answer to in all of this... What is Mahala's date of death? And the source? I was confused by the administrator of Mahala's estate's involvement and just assumed (oops) that Mahala's death was not too far prior to the 1860 case. E

Hello Lists, I am posting this to lists to which I have not subscribed, so reply to me direct as well to the list. Thomas WATKINS (b. 23 Dec 1817 in Kentucky - d. 17 Jan 1877 in Howard County, Missouri), married Elizabeth STIVERS (b. 04 May 1820 in Kentucky - d. 26 Jan 1859 in Howard Co, Missouri). Thomas and Elizabeth were married in Henry County, Kentucky in 1838, and sometime thereafter moved to Howard Co Missouri. According to Bible records of their great-granddaughter, their children were: Mary A., b. 22 Mar 1839 married Richard TUDOR Martha J., b. 23 Sep 1840 John C., b.10 Sep 1842 married Mary THURMAN Elizabeth C., b. 18 Jan 1845 married John WHITLOCK William W., b. 29 Nov 1845 Laura A., b. 24 Dec 1848 married Samuel J. RAY Thomas L. Jr., b. 25 May 1851 James, b. 25 Jan 1854 George W., b. 27 Jul 1856 Any further information would be appreciated. Dave Heinz davidrheinz@hotmail.com

Carolyn, I believe Emily Cline did come back to Cooper CO. Yes, that estate file that you and Ann found was the one that should me the ties to the Thurston, McClanahan families etc. I will go through my Cooper CO., records and get back to you. Howard Chism's brother Micheal WAS in Cooper Co., down the road from the place where I found my ancestors in Bunceton. My Cooper Co. records show Emily Cline married Howard Chism on May 16, 1850 -- his brother Michael married Didamy Smith on Feb. 4, 1830. Yeah.. I noticed the two Williams marriages to CHISMs too. I'm off to dig up more papers. traci wilson-kleekamp

Margaret Ward Hayter was born Aug 16 1857 in DeKalb Co Mo and married Theodore Hyatt Todd Howard Co Mo maybe between 1895-1900. I am sure she died in Howard Co but do not know when or where. Does anyone have anything on her? Benny and Mary McCune Cass Co Mo