This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: holt, shoemaker(sp?), Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QKB.2ACE/299 Message Board Post: any information would be greatly apperciated. These my husbands great grandparents I am unable to go back any further. Vernon was from Kentucky, Madie was supposedly born on a riverboat, I can't find any record of either except for madies ss# is recorded in the death index in illinois. I have not been able to find any record for vernon or anyone else. My husband and father in law would love to know the history more than anything, any info is apperciated. my email is dana_nadine@yahoo.com. please send me anything anyone may have about this. thank you so very much.