1900-1903 page 21 #3 Glenn, John H.--died 16 July 1900 at his home in Mound City, Mo, aged 81. He was born in Gallia Co., Oh., 23 May 1818. He married Jane Dupre, of French decent, whose ancestors are said to have formerly resided on the Isle of Man, 1 Jan 1840. They came to Holt Co. in 1860, and purchased land in the Whig Valley. John served in the state assembly 1868-69 & 1869-1870. Five children were born and 4 survive--Addison, of Falls City, Nebr.; George P., of Jacksonville, Fla..; Mrs. William Mackey, of Kansas City and R. C. of Mound City, Mo. 1900-1903 Page 21 #4 Glenn, John--died 11 0ct 6. 1903, of south of Mound City, Mo.. He was born 6 Oct 1903, the son of Mr.& Mrs. E.E. Glenn. Please Note. I am happy to be of help, but a Thank you is not necessary. ----- Original Message ----- From: "G W" <strayboogie@hotmail.com> To: <MOHOLT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 10:54 AM Subject: [MOHOLT] Newspaper Death Notices - GLENN surname > In particular, I am looking for death notices or obits for: > > GLENN, George d: 6 Oct 1884 - Holt Co. > GLENN, John Hawkins d: 16 Jul 1900 - Holt Co > GLENN, William Robert d: 12 Aug 1900 - Worth Co > GLENN, Robert Curry d: 8 Sep 1879 - Holt Co > GLENN, Janetta "CURRY" d: 2 Nov 1870 - Holt Co > GLENN, John b: abt 1839 Ohio d: unk county - Missouri (son of Robert Curry > GLENN) > > Replies on any GLENN surname appreciated. > > Glenn > > Surnames: ADNEY, BLAGG, BUTLER, CURRY, EAGLE, GLENN, HANGER, HILTON, > HOHMANN, JOHANNSEN, KENT, NILES, PRESTON, STEEL, VIERS, WILCOX, WILLCOX, > YOUNG > > From: "billburt" <billburt@iland.net> > Subject: Re: [MOHOLT] Newspaper Death Notices > Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 20:25:30 -0500 > References: <<20030506224900.68176.qmail@web12506.mail.yahoo.com>> > > > Hi, I happen to have a copy of the Holt Co, Mo death notices from area > newspapers 1857-1899. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > ==== MOHOLT Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

In particular, I am looking for death notices or obits for: GLENN, George d: 6 Oct 1884 - Holt Co. GLENN, John Hawkins d: 16 Jul 1900 - Holt Co GLENN, William Robert d: 12 Aug 1900 - Worth Co GLENN, Robert Curry d: 8 Sep 1879 - Holt Co GLENN, Janetta "CURRY" d: 2 Nov 1870 - Holt Co GLENN, John b: abt 1839 Ohio d: unk county - Missouri (son of Robert Curry GLENN) Replies on any GLENN surname appreciated. Glenn Surnames: ADNEY, BLAGG, BUTLER, CURRY, EAGLE, GLENN, HANGER, HILTON, HOHMANN, JOHANNSEN, KENT, NILES, PRESTON, STEEL, VIERS, WILCOX, WILLCOX, YOUNG From: "billburt" <billburt@iland.net> Subject: Re: [MOHOLT] Newspaper Death Notices Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 20:25:30 -0500 References: <<20030506224900.68176.qmail@web12506.mail.yahoo.com>> Hi, I happen to have a copy of the Holt Co, Mo death notices from area newspapers 1857-1899. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

Hello Mary, I know you wrote to "Bill" but in case he's busy I thought I'd give you the information. I previously gave you all this information on December 9, 2002 but, here it is again. Beverly Bevejune@aol.com HOLT COUNTY MISSOURI Death Notices From Area Newspapers 1857-1899 Page 3 BEAN, Baxter ---died 20 Dec 1899, aged 76. He was born in North Carolina, 12 March 1823. He married Miss Millie McKINLEY in 1850. Three children were born. In 1874 he again married Miss Ellen HATFIELD & 10 children were born. His wife & 6 children have passed away. He leaves 7 children. Burial at Tarkio Chapel cemetery. Gone Home Bk1 - Page 24 BEAN-BEANE Baxter - b. Burke Co., N.C. March 12, 1823 - Dec 29, 1899 (Co. B. 4th MO Cav.) husband of Millie McKINLEY; husband of Ellen HATFIELD; father of 13 children. Buried in Tarkio Chapel Cemetery, Holt Co., MO Mary Ellen HATFIELD - Feb 15, 1849 - Apr 22, 1893 - wife of Baxter Bean; mother of 10 children. ITEM: "The wife and infant child of Baxter Bean, living 1/2 mile west of Bigelow, MO, died last Saturday and were buried in the same casket on Monday in the Tarkio Chapel Cemetery." (HCMP-1893) "Little Annie Bean, daughter of Baxter Bean died of Membraneous Croup." ("The Swamp" Item - HCMP Oct 3, 1890) Infant child of Baxter Bean born & died Dec 1899 (HCMP) Buried in Tarkio Chapel Cemetery, Holt Co., MO. Anna Florence Meadows - 1868 - March 20, 1935 - daughter of Mrs. L.J. Bennett; wife of Fred C. Bean; Buried in Mt. Hope M.C. Cemetery, Holt Co., MO. "The two year old son of Thomas Beane died." ("Willow Slough" Item - HCMP Oct 25, 1889. This is all of the BEAN information on that page.

Hi, One of the first things I learned about on-line Genealogy is never request a look-up on surname alone. So, I am not requesting a look-up on the actual notices. Except maybe Henry Oberlin/Owen Reese who was thrown off a train and died in 1906? But could you send me info from the index itself? First names of THIEMAN; KUCK; and REESE/REECE? Or maybe just a match-up with: KUCK Betsey Donald Ernest Esther Gerd/t Hazel Henry Herman John Lola Mabel Mildred Ray Richard Roy REECE Ada Elias Valdo Vernon Reese Alfred Alice Amanda Andrew Caleb Catherine Edith Henry (Several) Hobart Jacob James John Leslie Mary Maud Meda Minnie Robert Verna Vernon William Thieman Frederich Fritz George Henry Lewis/Louis/Ludwig Mary Robert Sarah _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Do you have obits for Albert Henry Smith and his wife Nancy Ellen Bright Smith who are buried in the cemetery in Oregon, Holt, MO. Albert Henry died 29 Jul 1942 in St. Joseph and Nancy died 05 Mar 1941 in Oregon. Both had lived in Brown's (?) Nursing Home in Oregon for a year or so before their deaths. They were the parents of G. Frank Smith, my grandfather. Thanks, Wanda ----- Original Message ----- From: <ROBERM1@aol.com> To: <MOHOLT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [MOHOLT] Newspaper Death Notices-Pebley & Morgan > Bill: > Where might one find a copy of the newspaper death notices that you reference? I do a lot of research at the State Historical Society in Columbia, MO and have not noticed them having a copy of these death notices but I may have over looked it also. > Anyway, I have been searching for information on the Pebley and Morgan families. Jeremiah Pebley (my great-great grandfather)is buried in Guilliams Cemetery in Holt county and I would love to have an obit for him and/or his wife, Rhoda Morgan Pebley. Would you please check and see if there are notices for any Pebleys or Morgans in your book? Gone Home mentions something about Rhoda Morgan Pebley's family having lived in Craig (I believe this is correct....I don't have access to my records as I type this note.) > Your help would be appreciated! > Thanks, > Jerre > > ______________________________

Hello Bill, Mary of this list was kind enough to give me some information of children and wives of Baxter BEAN. I was hoping when you have a chance that you would give me his obit notice from the newspaper information. He died 29Dec1899. Thanks again, Marie > -----Original Message----- > From: billburt [mailto:billburt@iland.net] > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 8:24 AM > To: MOHOLT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MOHOLT] Newspaper Death Notices > > The only Bean is a Baxter Bean, and no Goodale. Sorry. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The Cook's" <fcec@lvcm.com> > To: <MOHOLT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 9:08 AM > Subject: RE: [MOHOLT] Newspaper Death Notices > > > > > > Hello, would the newspaper happen to have a death notice for Susan (BEAN) > > GOODALE? > > This would be after 1880 and before 1884. > > Thank you, > > Marie

Hi, Someone posted about Jake Jennings and wife, a few days ago... I didn't get it printed out and I crashed... Would you please re-post the info ??? Thanks, Dixie Lea in K.C...

Sorry I do not find anything on the children. Again, I would suggest you check the Gone Home books. There are two of them. Also the counties to the East. I know from experience folks seemed to move to a county, stay awhile, and then move one or two further West. Wish I could have been of some help. ----- Original Message ----- From: <fwong52@att.net> To: <MOHOLT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 9:57 AM Subject: [MOHOLT] Holt Co.--Death notices from area newspapers > Would it be possible to check for death notices for the following two children > of Elijah and Sarah Cobb McWilliams who lived in Forbes Co.: > Daniel b. abt. 1863 IN who d. 1870-1876 > Lena (or Lenna or Zenna) b. abt. 1857 IN who was alive in the 1876 state census > but does not appear in the 1880 census and no marriage record has been found. > This family had five children and by 1900 only one was still living. Two > children died in the early 1880's--at least one from consumption. Thank you > very much for you your help. > Faith Wong > > > ==== MOHOLT Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I got them from the Northwest Genealogical Society, St Joseph, Missouri. Order blank is available from their web site. There is not Pebley, but there is a Maggie Morgan, and a W. T. Morgan, son of Henry Morgan. Does this mean anything to you? If so let me know. ----- Original Message ----- From: <ROBERM1@aol.com> To: <MOHOLT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [MOHOLT] Newspaper Death Notices-Pebley & Morgan > Bill: > Where might one find a copy of the newspaper death notices that you reference? I do a lot of research at the State Historical Society in Columbia, MO and have not noticed them having a copy of these death notices but I may have over looked it also. > Anyway, I have been searching for information on the Pebley and Morgan families. Jeremiah Pebley (my great-great grandfather)is buried in Guilliams Cemetery in Holt county and I would love to have an obit for him and/or his wife, Rhoda Morgan Pebley. Would you please check and see if there are notices for any Pebleys or Morgans in your book? Gone Home mentions something about Rhoda Morgan Pebley's family having lived in Craig (I believe this is correct....I don't have access to my records as I type this note.) > Your help would be appreciated! > Thanks, > Jerre > > > ==== MOHOLT Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Holt Co., MO Mailing List, send only the word > UNSUSCRIBE to MOHOLT-l-request@rootsweb.com or if you are on the Digest List > to MOHOLT-d-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Sorry, I don't find any. Have you checked in Gone Home, and Gone Home ll. Perhaps there is something listed there. Sorry, I don't have either. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martha Burkholder" <mjbrab@shentel.net> To: <MOHOLT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 7:53 AM Subject: Re: [MOHOLT] Re: Newspaper death notice > Are there any Algers? > Martha > > > ==== MOHOLT Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I am sorry, I do not find any. ----- Original Message ----- From: <SanHarO@aol.com> To: <MOHOLT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 7:23 AM Subject: [MOHOLT] Re: Newspaper death notice > Are there any Pepper/Peppers in the listing? > > Sandy > FL > > > > ==== MOHOLT Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Would it be possible to check for death notices for the following two children of Elijah and Sarah Cobb McWilliams who lived in Forbes Co.: Daniel b. abt. 1863 IN who d. 1870-1876 Lena (or Lenna or Zenna) b. abt. 1857 IN who was alive in the 1876 state census but does not appear in the 1880 census and no marriage record has been found. This family had five children and by 1900 only one was still living. Two children died in the early 1880's--at least one from consumption. Thank you very much for you your help. Faith Wong

Bill: Where might one find a copy of the newspaper death notices that you reference? I do a lot of research at the State Historical Society in Columbia, MO and have not noticed them having a copy of these death notices but I may have over looked it also. Anyway, I have been searching for information on the Pebley and Morgan families. Jeremiah Pebley (my great-great grandfather)is buried in Guilliams Cemetery in Holt county and I would love to have an obit for him and/or his wife, Rhoda Morgan Pebley. Would you please check and see if there are notices for any Pebleys or Morgans in your book? Gone Home mentions something about Rhoda Morgan Pebley's family having lived in Craig (I believe this is correct....I don't have access to my records as I type this note.) Your help would be appreciated! Thanks, Jerre

Sandy In FL: We have a Pepper line, somewhat thin on information, but the father supposedly left a family in KY and came to CA and married into the local Indian tribe by an Indian marriage. His name was Joseph. Gail Darling Bakersfield, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: <SanHarO@aol.com> To: <MOHOLT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 5:23 AM Subject: [MOHOLT] Re: Newspaper death notice > Are there any Pepper/Peppers in the listing? > > Sandy > FL > > > > ==== MOHOLT Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Are there any Algers? Martha

Are there any Pepper/Peppers in the listing? Sandy FL

For the person looking for Blankenships. My moms family lived in Andrew & DeKalb counties & I know that there were some Blankenships in one or the other or both. Belinda in northern Calif. --- billburt <billburt@iland.net> wrote: > Sorry, there is no Blankenship. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <AMEON79@aol.com> > To: <MOHOLT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 11:45 PM > Subject: [MOHOLT] Newspaper death notices > > > > I missed the first posting,but I am very interested if there may be > any > > Blankenship's listed in that book. > > > > > > ==== MOHOLT Mailing List ==== > > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Holt Co., MO Mailing List, send > only > the word > > UNSUSCRIBE to MOHOLT-l-request@rootsweb.com or if you are on the > Digest > List > > to MOHOLT-d-request@rootsweb.com > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== MOHOLT Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, > flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for > removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett > kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com

In Gone Home 1, I have a Baxter Bean listed as being born in North Carolina 12 March, 1823 and died 29 Dec 1899 husband oof Ellen (Hatfield), father of 13 children and buried in Tarkio Chapel. Mary Ellen Hatfield Bean, Born Feb. 15, 1849, died April 22, 1873. Widow of Baxter Bean, mother of 10 children. ITEM: The wife and infant child of Baxter Bean, living 1/4 mile east of Bigelow, Mo. died last Saturday and were buried in the same casket on Monday in the Tarkio Chapel Cemetery. 1893. (Sorry, this was all the information). Infant child of Baxter Bean born and died Dec. 1899> Buried in Tarkio Chapel. ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Cook's" <fcec@lvcm.com> To: <MOHOLT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 9:15 AM Subject: RE: [MOHOLT] Newspaper Death Notices > That GOODALE is making me nuts...my ggGrandfather, Stephen GOODALE married > Susan BEAN in 1874 Holt Co., Mo. but by 1884 Stephen is married to my > ggGrandmother, Pauline WATSON. Susan's father was Baxter BEAN (also her > cousin)! If it isn't much trouble would you let me know what the obit says > for Baxter BEAN? > Thank you, > Marie > > -----Original Message----- > From: billburt [mailto:billburt@iland.net] > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 8:24 AM > To: MOHOLT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MOHOLT] Newspaper Death Notices > > > The only Bean is a Baxter Bean, and no Goodale. Sorry. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The Cook's" <fcec@lvcm.com> > To: <MOHOLT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 9:08 AM > Subject: RE: [MOHOLT] Newspaper Death Notices > > > > > > Hello, would the newspaper happen to have a death notice for Susan (BEAN) > > GOODALE? > > This would be after 1880 and before 1884. > > Thank you, > > Marie > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: billburt [mailto:billburt@iland.net] > > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 6:26 PM > > To: MOHOLT-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [MOHOLT] Newspaper Death Notices > > > > > > Hi, I happen to have a copy of the Holt Co, Mo death notices from area > > newspapers 1857-1899. > > > > There is a listing, it is a follows: > > > > Page 14, Last listing on that page. > > > > CROMER, Venrenslaer--died 25 April 1899 in Holt Co., Mo., aged 83. He was > > born in Herkimer Co., N. Y., 10 March 10, 1816. He leaves his wife and > five > > children. > > > > Hope this will be of some help. > > > > > > ==== MOHOLT Mailing List ==== > > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political > > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for > removal. > > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett > kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== MOHOLT Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Holt Co., MO Mailing List, send only the > word > UNSUSCRIBE to MOHOLT-l-request@rootsweb.com or if you are on the Digest List > to MOHOLT-d-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== MOHOLT Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Holt Co., MO Mailing List, send only the word > UNSUSCRIBE to MOHOLT-l-request@rootsweb.com or if you are on the Digest List > to MOHOLT-d-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

No Blankenship's listed in Gone Home. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: <AMEON79@aol.com> To: <MOHOLT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 9:45 PM Subject: [MOHOLT] Newspaper death notices > I missed the first posting,but I am very interested if there may be any > Blankenship's listed in that book. > > > ==== MOHOLT Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Holt Co., MO Mailing List, send only the word > UNSUSCRIBE to MOHOLT-l-request@rootsweb.com or if you are on the Digest List > to MOHOLT-d-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

HOLT COUNTY MISSOURI DEATH NOTICES FROM AREA NEWSPAPERS PAGE 50 second one MORRISON, Sammuel--died 31 Jan 1890 in Oregon, mo., aged 46. He was born 7 March 1843 in Lancaster Co., Pa., the 8th and youngest child of Alexander Wilson Morrison. He was in the civil war in the 142nd. Penn. Inf. in 1863. Came to Holt Co., Mo. in 1870. He married Miss Floss Hahn, 28 March (?) 1877, who survives with 3 children--Blanche; Catharine & May. He served as Collector & Deputy Collector for Holt Co.. Burial in Maple Grove cemetery. Hope this is the one you wanted. It is the only one there is, and please note, I have been trying to copy them just as I am seeing them in the book. Please note: I am happy to look for family, but it would be helpful if you would list full names. That way if the one you are looking for is/isn't there we will know. Will make the job a lot easier. Thanks!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trueman Farris" <jfarris@execpc.com> To: <MOHOLT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 12:37 PM Subject: [MOHOLT] Newspaper obits > Would you mind checking for MORRISON obits? Thanks. > jfarris@execpc.com > > > > ==== MOHOLT Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Holt Co., MO Mailing List, send only the word > UNSUSCRIBE to MOHOLT-l-request@rootsweb.com or if you are on the Digest List > to MOHOLT-d-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >