Wanda, Mrs. Esta Lant died Aug 7, 1908 Sumpte, OR Mother of Mrs. N. N. Sheets, Mrs. B.G. Austin and Wilbur Wray. She lived in Forest City several years ago. (Craig Leader Aug 21, 1908) This from 'Gone Home' vol. II. Should open a whole new arena for you. Gene

List, Is there an index for marriages for the county after 1900? I am once again in search of information on my biggest brick wall. Her name is Estaline “Esta” Wray. I found her in Forest City in 1900 listed as a cook and she worked in a hotel. It is possible that she may have remarried. She had a son with her who is 14 named John E. Wray. Thanks Wanda

not sure any connection, but doing a word search for Esta Wray I found this. Since Taylor Co Iowa is right above Nodaway Co MO....which is next to Holt Co..... thought may be a connection: http://www.rootsweb.com/~iataylor/ANI/w-names/W600B.htm O'Dell's Abstracted Newspaper Index of Page and Taylor Counties, Iowa copyright © by Pat O'Dell, New Market, Iowa; genpat@netins.net Wray, J.J. 37 wed Mrs Esta Wray 28; lic 08 May. TCR 25 May 1882 [there are several other "Wray" names listed --this Esta would be born about 1854. ] Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wanda K. Smith" <mrs_thing@bellsouth.net> To: <MOHOLT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 2:01 PM Subject: [MOHOLT] Marriage look up > List, > Is there an index for marriages for the county after 1900? I am once again > in search of information on my biggest brick wall. Her name is Estaline > "Esta" Wray. I found her in Forest City in 1900 listed as a cook and she > worked in a hotel. It is possible that she may have remarried. She had a son > with her who is 14 named John E. Wray. > > Thanks > Wanda > > > ==== MOHOLT Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

List, I am looking for names of hotels that were in Forest City in 1900. Also, what school/schools were in the area at this time? Are there school records available? Wanda

Dear List Members, I just ran across an interesting Website, "Courthouse Experiences" http://www.bcpl.net/~dmg/courthouse.htm Not every county is listed, but the ones listed gave helpful information regarding the attitudes of those working in the courthouses. I might suggest that if you have had a positive or negative courthouse experience you add them to this site. I now know how to prepare myself for several courthouses I want to visit later this year. Kathleen Burnett List Mom

I just learned that my grandfather Christian William Waltke was born Mar 27 1897 in Craig, Holt County, Missouri. His parents were Wilhelm Janssen Waltke and Antje Heinrich. They apparently stayed just a couple of years in Craig and then moved to Nebraska(maybe Sterling or Pickrell) Anybody heard of this family?

Thought I knew the name from a friend's line, but turns out I was mistaken. Got interested in looking and found the following: on Genforum at http://genforum.genealogy.com/schmidt/messages/2530.html (watch for wrapping URL) 2 Helena Hilkia SCHMIDT m. Christian William WALTKE b. 27 Mar 1897 Craig, Holt Co., MO d. May 1971 Pickrell, Gage Co., NE [son of William Janssen WALTKE and Antja HENRICK] There is a submitter's email link, post 3-18-2003. Hope this is someone new for you to connect with. **** Found mention of Christian Waltke in Beatrice, NE 1912-1920 here: http://www.lwazcc.org/web/jcarstens/shopping.htm (wrapping URL) lots more stuff on these pages... maybe a close cousin of yours? **** Good Luck... Susan Anderson Keith County, Nebraska Volunteer Coordinator -------Original Message------- From: SAWDAD86@aol.com Sent: 08/11/03 02:16 PM To: MOHOLT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MOHOLT] Waltke info > > I just learned that my grandfather Christian William Waltke was born Mar 27 1897 in Craig, Holt County, Missouri. His parents were Wilhelm Janssen Waltke and Antje Heinrich. They apparently stayed just a couple of years in Craig and then moved to Nebraska(maybe Sterling or Pickrell) Anybody heard of this family? ==== MOHOLT Mailing List ==== NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Linda; When I search there it doesn't give me the printed list you speak of, perhaps that is because I have an Ancestry Census subscription and automatically get the image. I will pass you info over to some friends who don't have the subscription and see if it helps them. Let you know. Bob Areas of interest: Pfalz, Bayern; Rastede, Oldenburg; Greene & Cocke Counties, TN; Allegheny & Venango Counties, PA; Atchison & Holt Counties, MO; Wabash, NE; Los Angeles County, CA. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Glenn, Thanks for info. Wayne

In a message dated 8/8/03 6:23:42 AM Mountain Daylight Time, lmmowry@classicnet.net writes: << Doubt the Nodaway had water to support a steamer. >> Me too, except I thought I read that it was pretty wide when Lewis & Clark saw it? Wayne

http://xroads.virginia.edu/~HYPER/JOURNALS/LEWIS.html from Lewis & Clark's Journals: "Set out early. Passed a small creek and two small islands on the S.S. Five men sick today with violent headache, &c. We made some arrangements as to provisions and messes. Came to for dinner at the lower point of a very large island situated near the S.S. After a delay of two hours we passed a narrow channel 45 to 80 yards wide five miles to the mouth of Nodaway River. Captain Clark, 8 July 1804 " Anyone interested in the river, the land use or the look of the area in the early 1800s should pull up this site: http://www.conservation.state.mo.us/fish/watershed/nodaway/landuse/280lutxt. htm HISTORIC AND RECENT LAND USE Prairies dominated the landscape of the Nodaway River basin prior to settlement. Small areas of upland timber were restricted to deep narrow ravines. The timber was often found only in isolated pockets at the upper end of the ravines. Common prairie species included Indian grass, big and little bluestem, buffalo grass, blue and hairy grama, and switch grass. Forest species included elm, ash, and cottonwood along streams and oak-hickory forest types on the uplands (USDA-SCS 1982). Conservative estimates indicate 80% of Nodaway County and 50% of Holt and Andrew counties were once dominated by prairie species (Schroeder 1982). The majority of the basin in Iowa was historically covered by prairie grassland (USDA 1981). A county map from the 1850's for Page County, Iowa indicated a timbered corridor existed along streams of the Nodaway River basin (Varland 1984). Settlement and modification for agricultural production by man has eliminated most of these historic habitats in the Nodaway River basin. The Nodaway River has been frequented by people for several thousand years, as chronicled by numerous archaeological sites and discoveries in the basin. Fox, Otoe, Ioway, Missouri, Pottawattamie, and Sioux were the Native American inhabitants of the basin. Settlers begin moving to the region in the 1830's. Most were from the eastern states of Kentucky, Tennessee, Georgia, Virginia, Ohio, and Indiana. The Missouri portion of the basin was at one time known as the "Platte Territory" and was acquired by the State of Missouri in the "Platte Purchase" of 1836. Most Native Americans that remained in the area were paid cash for rights to their land and were displaced to land southwest of the Missouri River in what was then the Kansas Territory. The word "Nadowa" and similar sounding terms are found in many Indian languages. The Algonquian tribes use of the name was applied to mean "utter detestation" usually in reference to bitter enemies. The Menominee, Chippewa, and Ottawa all have terms similar to "Nadowa" that refer to snakes, usually rattlesnakes. "Nadowe" was used by Siouan tribes indicating or in reference to enemies, chiefly Iowa and Teton. The term was often associated with snakes generally thought to be massasauga rattlesnakes (Hodge 1912). The application of the name to the Nodaway River is believed to have described it as being twisted or sinuous like a snake. In the past the name may have been an apt description but the present day Nodaway River resembles a straight ditch more than a snake-like meandering river. The Lewis and Clark expedition camped near and mentioned the "Nodawa River" and "Little Nodawa and Great Nodawa" islands in the journal of their expedition. They camped on the north shore of the Missouri River near the head of "Nodawa Island" on July 8, 1804. On their return journey they hunted near the Nodaway River and passed by on September 11, 1806 (Biddle 1962). ----- Original Message ----- From: <Wagil@aol.com> To: <MOHOLT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [MOHOLT] Re: steamboats > In a message dated 8/8/03 6:23:42 AM Mountain Daylight Time, > lmmowry@classicnet.net writes: > > << Doubt the Nodaway had water to support a steamer. >> > > Me too, except I thought I read that it was pretty wide when Lewis & Clark > saw it? > > Wayne > > > ==== MOHOLT Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Try this: I'm copying and pasting a direct link to the 1880 Images "jumping off" place. Try clicking on this link. I'm making font small so it will all be on one line: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp It should take you directly to the query place where you can fill in the blanks & search. Hint: If you don't include a first name, you cannot include birth year span, etc. But you can type in a last name & birth place & state you want to view the census & it will bring up a list to choose from.

hmmm. I don't understand. I also have the Ancestry Census subscription and can access the images there. But.... when I pull up the URL " http://www.familysearch.org " and follow the path I posted, it brings up the search blanks for the 1880 census. I can then go either directly to ancestry.com by clicking on that link, or just paste and copy all the households I find (either in a letter to myself, or on MS Word) & then go to ancestry.com & look them up through my regular subscription way. I LOVE ancestry. I know I have friends who don't want to "invest" that much & feel they don't really need it, but it has sure helped me many many many times. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Call" <r_d_call@hotmail.com> To: <MOHOLT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [MOHOLT] "FREE" 1880 Census Images > Linda; > When I search there it doesn't give me the printed list you speak of, > perhaps that is because I have an Ancestry Census subscription and > automatically get the image. > I will pass you info over to some friends who don't have the subscription > and see if it helps them. > Let you know. > Bob > > > > Areas of interest: Pfalz, Bayern; Rastede, Oldenburg; Greene & Cocke > Counties, TN; Allegheny & Venango Counties, PA; Atchison & Holt Counties, > MO; Wabash, NE; Los Angeles County, CA. > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > ==== MOHOLT Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Gang; Current misinformation being circulated is you can access the Ancestry.com 1880 Census for free at Familysearch.org. This is true IF you go to Salt Lake City OR you join Familysearch. Otherwise it is $9.95 for a 30 day subscription 1880 only. A few of us happen to have the full Image subscription at Ancestry, and for us it cuts out the step of writing down the page number and searching at Ancestry for it. Remember when using it, the person you are looking for may not be on the page that comes up, you will need to use the arrows on the right to check both the preceeding page and the following page. And sometimes the page number is just plain wrong. On a recent search of Venango County, PA the index gave page 363 in Irwin Township. That page was in a different township. I found the person I was looking for by going page by page in Irwin, they were on 332. Bob Areas of interest: Pfalz, Bayern; Rastede, Oldenburg; Greene & Cocke Counties, TN; Allegheny & Venango Counties, PA; Atchison & Holt Counties, MO; Wabash, NE; Los Angeles County, CA. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

the L.D.S. has the 1880 census for no cost.It is better then Ancestry.com because it is indexed.

Bob, I also have the full ancestry.com images subscription; however, I have gone to: www.Familysearch.org click on "Search" tab near middle of top area click on "Census" link in left hand column click on "All" & then click on "1880" go from there. It is PRINTED from someone's transcription of the actual images; with page numbers (as you said....sometimes they are off) Sometimes the names & other info are incorrectly transcribed, but you get a gist of the family unit, the neighbors (you can tell it next household or previous household) and you can go through it pretty quickly. Even if a person does not have the full image subscription, they can go to where they can access the census on microfilm & at least have a starting point or general idea if the ancestor was there. I have found many of my names on that printed census at this site, but just be wary of the errors. If I don't find one as I type it in, I make sure the "exact spelling" box at lower left is not checked. Then it looks phonetically. I have never joined Familysearch. Try the above website & check it out. Maybe I did not interpret your message (below) correctly? Keep in mind folks, these are NOT the actual film images, just someone's transcription of those films. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Call" <r_d_call@hotmail.com> To: <MOHOLT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 7:48 AM Subject: [MOHOLT] "FREE" 1880 Census Images > Hi Gang; > Current misinformation being circulated is you can access the Ancestry.com > 1880 Census for free at Familysearch.org. > This is true IF you go to Salt Lake City OR you join Familysearch. > Otherwise it is $9.95 for a 30 day subscription 1880 only. > A few of us happen to have the full Image subscription at Ancestry, and for > us it cuts out the step of writing down the page number and searching at > Ancestry for it. > Remember when using it, the person you are looking for may not be on the > page that comes up, you will need to use the arrows on the right to check > both the preceeding page and the following page. > And sometimes the page number is just plain wrong. > On a recent search of Venango County, PA the index gave page 363 in Irwin > Township. That page was in a different township. > I found the person I was looking for by going page by page in Irwin, > they were on 332. > Bob > > > > Areas of interest: Pfalz, Bayern; Rastede, Oldenburg; Greene & Cocke > Counties, TN; Allegheny & Venango Counties, PA; Atchison & Holt Counties, > MO; Wabash, NE; Los Angeles County, CA. > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > ==== MOHOLT Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Holt Co., MO Mailing List, send only the word > UNSUSCRIBE to MOHOLT-l-request@rootsweb.com or if you are on the Digest List > to MOHOLT-d-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I used to live near Forest City, and I have heard from some of the old timers that ships did stop there. There used to be a big red brick building just east of the railroad tracks that was the port of call for Forest City. Around 1900, after a hard rain the river overflowed and went west to the Nebrasky side and left Forest City high and dry. So Forest City never developed like St. Joe and Omaha. No, I don't think the Nodway ever had a deep enough chanel to float a very big ship. The old Missouri has flooded a couple of times that I can remember when the water was from bluff to bluff. The grade up to the railroad tracks was all that kept it out of town. That was lots of water. The buildings out in the bottom had water up to the eves and above. I know, because I saw it with my own eyes. Glenn Bob Call wrote: > Hi; > Hundreds of steamboats plied the Missouri River. > Not sure if I have the name right, but there was a famous wreck at Hermes > Landing in the 1850's. > National Geographic website has an article on the "Montana" wreck. > Bob > > _________________________________________________________________ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > ==== MOHOLT Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Holt Co., MO Mailing List, send only the word > UNSUSCRIBE to MOHOLT-l-request@rootsweb.com or if you are on the Digest List > to MOHOLT-d-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi; Hundreds of steamboats plied the Missouri River. Not sure if I have the name right, but there was a famous wreck at Hermes Landing in the 1850's. National Geographic website has an article on the "Montana" wreck. Bob _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

Does anyone have info about the steamboats used on the MO River in early/mid 1800s that stopped at Iowa Point or Forest City? Such as: passenger lists, schedules, boat names? Did boats actually stop on MO side of the river, or only at Iowa Point? Did any steamboats go up the Nodaway River? Any help/info/clues appreciated Wayne wagil@aol.com

Doubt the Nodaway had water to support a steamer.... ----- Original Message ----- From: <Wagil@aol.com> To: <MOHOLT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 7:18 AM Subject: [MOHOLT] Re: steamboats > > Does anyone have info about the steamboats used on the MO River in early/mid > 1800s that stopped at Iowa Point or Forest City? Such as: passenger lists, > schedules, boat names? Did boats actually stop on MO side of the river, or only > at Iowa Point? Did any steamboats go up the Nodaway River? > > Any help/info/clues appreciated > > Wayne > wagil@aol.com > > > ==== MOHOLT Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >