I got a copy several years ago from: Lois L. Puchta, Treasurer Gasconade Co. Historical Society P. O. Box 131 Hermann, MO 6504l M. McManus

Does anyone know if those maps are still available, and where?? Mike Durbin At 07:12 PM 03/19/2001 -0600, you wrote: >It has been quite a while since I got this map and I'm not sure where I ordered it from. It seems like it was from the Gasconade County Historical Society. I don't remember what it cost. The map is called "King's Land Owners Map of Gasconade County, Missouri, 1875". The owners of the properties are indexed by the 9 townships of the county. I have found that even though a name is listed in the index, it is not necessarily indicated on that particular plat on the map. Fortunately for me, it shows my ancestors' land and has helped me plan out my trip to the area next month. I was able to cross-reference this map with the Canaan Township plat map in the 1985 Gasconade County Cemetery Survey to locate current roads. I also learned that "Canaan Township" is not the same as the town of Canaan. I would have been searching in the wrong part of the county for my ancestors. > >Derelys > > >==== MOGASCON Mailing List ==== >Please check out the Gasconade County Web Page at www.rootsweb.com/~mogascon/index.html > > > > Mike Durbin Union, Mo Email***** madurby@mail.usmo.com Website*** http://www.usmo.com/~madurby/index.html

Dear Listers, I'm looking for information on George Washington Sherrill who married Louise Swanson on 10/07/1847. Thank you, Rich & Doreen Brannan

Karen Barton could you check and see if you have any additional Martschinsky information. My greatgrandmother was Theresia Martschinsky who married Otto Marotte and half sister to Ludwig Martschinsky who is Wilhelmina Henriette's father. Thanks Bob

RUCKER, McCluer, Branch REASEARCHERS: I need your help... Does anyone have or know where I can find the following information... I need a LOOK - UP for a DIVORCE sometime between 1841 and 1846... She lived In St. Louis County or City of St. Louis, He lived in Franklin County, Missouri... Does any researcher have this information or know where I could find it... Or someone that researches for a reasonable fee. I am checking all the surrounding Counties, as it is not in the Counties where they lived. That we can find... I have been thru all the routes, even hiring Researchers in the Counties of Saint Louis and Franklin and the City of St Louis. I am told nothing was found. Ambrose LeGrand F. Rucker, Sr. and Elizabeth Betsey McCluer Rucker... They both signed their names many different ways... Betsey died 5 June 1854, St. Louis, Missouri... I have her probate file , but it does not say anything about a Divorce. Only 2 scraps of paper, not even naming her heirs. They were married 4 March 1824 in Bedford County, Virginia... They relocated from Bedford County, Virginia to St. Louis in 1830, where he was the First Constable as it was then... They then relocated to Franklin County, Missouri in 1831... He was the First Sheriff of Franklin County, in 1831/32. Does anyone have any history or anything on this.?? He married Wife #2 Susan Elizabeth Branch on 23 December 1846 in Franklin County, Missouri... She was the Daughter of Levi Branch. Levi died in Union, Missouri Ambrose founded Ruckers Prairie and Established the First Post Office there... He was the First Postmaster, 22 December 1853 to 15 May 1858... Resigning and leaving Missouri... He then left the State of Missouri, dying elsewhere, but thats another story... I am disabled and am not allowed to travel any more. So I need someone to help in the surrounding Counties. E-mail address, Mailing address's, Phone #'s, Museums, Libraries etc.. Thanks CARLA in OREGON leighton@pacifier.com

My Herman Bock(1859-1890) is bur' in Berger Fam' Cem', Saline Co, MO Jeannine ----- Original Message ----- From: <M53548082@aol.com> To: <MOGASCON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 11:38 PM Subject: Re: [MOGASCON] Carl Bock - Richland Township > Buried at the St. John's Cemetery, Stolpe: Carl J. Bock b. 3/29/1841 d. > 3/19/1898 and Johanna Voss Bock b. 11/10/1846 d. 3/19/1898; also, Auguste > C. P. Bock > b. 3/22/1889 d. 3/19/1909 > There is a listing for Hermena Bock at the Fredericksburg Cemetery; no dates > are given. > I'll look through my notes to see if I have additional information. > > Karen Barton > > > > ==== MOGASCON Mailing List ==== > Please check out the Gasconade County Web Page at www.rootsweb.com/~mogascon/index.html > > >

Another burial at St. John's (Stolpe): Otto Henry Bock B. 1873 D. 1941 and wife, Wilhelmina Henriette "Minnie" Martschinsky Bock B. 1892 D. 1936 Karen Barton

Buried at the St. John's Cemetery, Stolpe: Carl J. Bock b. 3/29/1841 d. 3/19/1898 and Johanna Voss Bock b. 11/10/1846 d. 3/19/1898; also, Auguste C. P. Bock b. 3/22/1889 d. 3/19/1909 There is a listing for Hermena Bock at the Fredericksburg Cemetery; no dates are given. I'll look through my notes to see if I have additional information. Karen Barton

Trying to locate information on the family of Carl and Johanna Bock who lived in Gasconade Co. Richland Township from about 1860-70 time period. They came to the US from Prussia - I suspect Pommern. Interested in any related Bock families and any information on connections to the Hartke family of Morrison Mo. or the Kroepel family of Gasconade (city) Mo. Thanks, Ken Hartke Descendants of Carl Bock 1 Carl Bock b: 1841 in Prussia d: Aft. 1892 in Missouri . +Johanna ____ ( Bock) b: November 1842 in Prussia 2 Henry Bock b: 1878 in Missouri d: Unknown in Missouri Gasconade Co.? ) .... +Hermina Hartke b: February 06, 1879 in Kerschkow, Pommern - Germany d: Aft. 1940 in Missouri ( Buried Gasconade Co.?) 2 Theresa A. H. Bock b: 1883 in Missouri .... +Wilhelm Johann Hartke b: August 14, 1885 in St. Louis d: April 25, 1960 in St. Louis 2 Julius Bock b: 1872 2 Otto Bock b: 1873 2 Ernst Bock b: 1880 2 Anna Bock b: 1887 2 Auguste Bock b: 1889 2 William Bock b: 1892

It has been quite a while since I got this map and I'm not sure where I ordered it from. It seems like it was from the Gasconade County Historical Society. I don't remember what it cost. The map is called "King's Land Owners Map of Gasconade County, Missouri, 1875". The owners of the properties are indexed by the 9 townships of the county. I have found that even though a name is listed in the index, it is not necessarily indicated on that particular plat on the map. Fortunately for me, it shows my ancestors' land and has helped me plan out my trip to the area next month. I was able to cross-reference this map with the Canaan Township plat map in the 1985 Gasconade County Cemetery Survey to locate current roads. I also learned that "Canaan Township" is not the same as the town of Canaan. I would have been searching in the wrong part of the county for my ancestors. Derelys

Thanks to all of you for the information. I'm sending a letter out to Roy Brockman tomorrow morning. I pulled out the 1875 Gasconade County plat map that I've had for a few years and compared it to the Canaan map in the Gasc. Co. Cemetery Survey book and was able to locate where Hibler's Prairie is. It is in Section 10, T42N, between Hwy 19 and Piezuch Road, probably close to where Old Salem Cemetery is located. Ellie, I think we are probably related on the Stites side, as well as through the Mahanay side. Milton Hibler's father was John Steitz (also spelled Stites) Hibler. He was the son of Samuel Hibler and Rebecca Steitz. On the old 1875 plat map there is a property owned by a J.T. Stites. This is probably your direct ancestor and possibly related to Rebecca. If anyone knows of any interesting landmarks in the part of the county north of the area between Owensville and Rosebud, please let me know so I can add them to my list of places and things to see. Do you know if any of the old homesteads are still standing or still inhabited? Thanks again, Derelys

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Looks like someone else was able to help!! john ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fay & Ed Mesa" <faed@teleport.com> To: <MOGASCON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [MOGASCON] Old Salem Cemetery location > Hello, > > According to the map the Old Salem Cemetery is in the Canaan Township > off of Hwy 19 an just south of Roethemeyer Rd. Sec 10, T42N, R5W > According the plat map book of 1999 Mr. Roy Brockman owns the 198 acreas > that the cemetery sits on. > > Roy Brockman > 3142 Hwy 19 > Owensville, MO 65066 > 573-437-5069 > > I hope this help.... Fay > > PS If you would like a copy (of the page) the cemetery is at, just leave > your address and I'll have it in the mail too you. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Derelys Presley <derelysp@getus.com> > To: <MOGASCON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 7:12 PM > Subject: [MOGASCON] Old Salem Cemetery location > > > > I am finally getting to make my trip from Houston, TX to Gasconade in 2 > weeks and > > would like to go out to the Old Salem Cemetery that is off Hwy 19. I > understand > > that it is on private property. Does anyone know who the current owner of > that > > property is (last known owner was Jesse Pride) and how I can contact > him/her? Is > > the Old Salem Cemetery near the New Salem Cemetery? > > > > The families that I am researching are Hibler and Mahanay. My 3rd great > > grandfather was John Steitz (Stites) Hibler, married to Nancy Fitzgarrel > > (Fitzgerald). His son, Milton, was married to Sarah Luvica Mahanay, the > daughter > > of Benjamin Morgan Mahanay and Caroline Cason. > > > > On an old Gasconade County map from 1870's there is a "Hibler Prairie". > Has anyone > > on this list heard of this and maybe know where it is? > > Derelys > > > > > > > > ==== MOGASCON Mailing List ==== > > Going on vacation? Gone longer than 4 days? Please unsubscribe with no > other words but this one word. > > Single messages Users, send to Mogascon-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Digest Users, send to Mogascon-D-request@rootsweb.com > > Do not add anything else but the one word.... unsubscribe > > > > > > > ==== MOGASCON Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation? Gone longer than 4 days? Please unsubscribe with no other words but this one word. > Single messages Users, send to Mogascon-L-request@rootsweb.com > Digest Users, send to Mogascon-D-request@rootsweb.com > Do not add anything else but the one word.... unsubscribe > >

Hello, According to the map the Old Salem Cemetery is in the Canaan Township off of Hwy 19 an just south of Roethemeyer Rd. Sec 10, T42N, R5W According the plat map book of 1999 Mr. Roy Brockman owns the 198 acreas that the cemetery sits on. Roy Brockman 3142 Hwy 19 Owensville, MO 65066 573-437-5069 I hope this help.... Fay PS If you would like a copy (of the page) the cemetery is at, just leave your address and I'll have it in the mail too you. ----- Original Message ----- From: Derelys Presley <derelysp@getus.com> To: <MOGASCON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 7:12 PM Subject: [MOGASCON] Old Salem Cemetery location > I am finally getting to make my trip from Houston, TX to Gasconade in 2 weeks and > would like to go out to the Old Salem Cemetery that is off Hwy 19. I understand > that it is on private property. Does anyone know who the current owner of that > property is (last known owner was Jesse Pride) and how I can contact him/her? Is > the Old Salem Cemetery near the New Salem Cemetery? > > The families that I am researching are Hibler and Mahanay. My 3rd great > grandfather was John Steitz (Stites) Hibler, married to Nancy Fitzgarrel > (Fitzgerald). His son, Milton, was married to Sarah Luvica Mahanay, the daughter > of Benjamin Morgan Mahanay and Caroline Cason. > > On an old Gasconade County map from 1870's there is a "Hibler Prairie". Has anyone > on this list heard of this and maybe know where it is? > Derelys > > > > ==== MOGASCON Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation? Gone longer than 4 days? Please unsubscribe with no other words but this one word. > Single messages Users, send to Mogascon-L-request@rootsweb.com > Digest Users, send to Mogascon-D-request@rootsweb.com > Do not add anything else but the one word.... unsubscribe > >

In a message dated 03/17/2001 8:15:10 PM Mountain Standard Time, derelysp@getus.com writes: << Subj: [MOGASCON] Old Salem Cemetery location Date: 03/17/2001 8:15:10 PM Mountain Standard Time From: derelysp@getus.com (Derelys Presley) Reply-to: MOGASCON-L@rootsweb.com To: MOGASCON-L@rootsweb.com I am finally getting to make my trip from Houston, TX to Gasconade in 2 weeks and would like to go out to the Old Salem Cemetery that is off Hwy 19. I understand that it is on private property. Does anyone know who the current owner of that property is (last known owner was Jesse Pride) and how I can contact him/her? Is the Old Salem Cemetery near the New Salem Cemetery? The families that I am researching are Hibler and Mahanay. My 3rd great grandfather was John Steitz (Stites) Hibler, married to Nancy Fitzgarrel (Fitzgerald). His son, Milton, was married to Sarah Luvica Mahanay, the daughter of Benjamin Morgan Mahanay and Caroline Cason. On an old Gasconade County map from 1870's there is a "Hibler Prairie". Has anyone on this list heard of this and maybe know where it is? Derelys >> Dear Derelys: Hope you have good weather for the trip... I have heard of all the names and places you mention above.. It is near my childhood home. I know of a contact, a descendant of Benjamin Mahanay's and his 2nd wife, Martha Spalding, a triplet whom he married after the death of Carolyn Cason. The contact is a great grandson of Benjamin and Martha if you are interested. Martha was a sister to my great great grandmother, Mary Lara Ann Spalding Stites (also a triplet). I did have the snail mail address of a descendant of Benjamin & Carolyn's who lived south of Ft. Worth... but not sure I have it now. Benjamin & Martha went to Arlington, TX not long after they married. Back to the cemetery. Yes it is on private property. I am not sure who owns it now. perhaps someone on the list can help us. I did have the extraction of all cemetery tombstones from that cemetery long before it was recorded for the cemetery book. I do have the info here somewhere... with descriptions as to who some of the people were.. The info was recorded and notes made by the granddaughter of the Stephen Spaldings.. mentioned below. I have family buried in that cemetery including the parents of the triplets and a few of their siblings. The parents were Stephen Spalding (retired military from Ft. Snelling, MN) and his wife, Margaret Barclay Spalding. Stephen was b. 1774 in Massachusetts and Margaret in Pittsburgh, PA ca. 1803. One of their son's was a county politican. He has children buried near Canaan, MO... in an old church cemetery.. not sure of the name of the church. The Hibler's and Price's, (both in the cemetery) intermarried into my family.. and yes, there was a Hibler's Prairie.. My father used to talk about it, but I don't know where it is exactly.. someone else may know!!.. Good Luck! Ellie S. EllieSS@aol.com

I am finally getting to make my trip from Houston, TX to Gasconade in 2 weeks and would like to go out to the Old Salem Cemetery that is off Hwy 19. I understand that it is on private property. Does anyone know who the current owner of that property is (last known owner was Jesse Pride) and how I can contact him/her? Is the Old Salem Cemetery near the New Salem Cemetery? The families that I am researching are Hibler and Mahanay. My 3rd great grandfather was John Steitz (Stites) Hibler, married to Nancy Fitzgarrel (Fitzgerald). His son, Milton, was married to Sarah Luvica Mahanay, the daughter of Benjamin Morgan Mahanay and Caroline Cason. On an old Gasconade County map from 1870's there is a "Hibler Prairie". Has anyone on this list heard of this and maybe know where it is? Derelys

Juanita Schuster, would you contact me? I tried to email you, but it bounced.. Ellie S.

It means will was probated while court was in recess. Probably handled by Clerk of Court and then presented to court for its approval when court reconvened. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fay & Ed Mesa" <faed@teleport.com> To: <MOGASCON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 12:19 AM Subject: [MOGASCON] Help in defination of court lanague > Good evening all, > > I was wondering if anyone could help with a translation of the following found on film# 941451 MO Gasconade Probate Record 1877-1891 pg 630 May 11, 1882 > > " In the matter of the estate of Friedrich Helmig deceased last will and testament approved. The last will and testament of Friedrich Helmig deceased probated in "vacation" is by the court approved" > > > What does vacation mean..... I have co-workers, etc... does anyone have a clue as too what this is trying too say?? > > Anything would be appreciated Thank you Fay Mesa > > > > > ==== MOGASCON Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation? Gone longer than 4 days? Please unsubscribe with no other words but this one word. > Single messages Users, send to Mogascon-L-request@rootsweb.com > Digest Users, send to Mogascon-D-request@rootsweb.com > Do not add anything else but the one word.... unsubscribe > >

Excuse me - I can't help interjection here. Vacation was correct. It was simply saying that approval was given during a time the court was not meeting likewise vacation, and the court is now following up - crossing t and dotting i - to make sure that all know it has been approved. history@usmo.com Fay & Ed Mesa wrote: > Lucille, > > Thank you so much the definition, that makes more sense now. Thank > you again. Fay Mesa > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lucille Smith <susyq@fidnet.com> > To: <MOGASCON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 3:58 AM > Subject: Re: [MOGASCON] Help in defination of court lanague > > > Hi > > I believe this is "vocation" instead of vacation. Vocation means > one's regular calling or business. In this case it would mean while court > was being held. > > Lucille > > susyq@fidnet.com > > > > > > ==== MOGASCON Mailing List ==== > > Please check out the Gasconade County Web Page at > www.rootsweb.com/~mogascon/index.html > > > > > > ==== MOGASCON Mailing List ==== > Please check out the Gasconade County Web Page at www.rootsweb.com/~mogascon/index.html

Hi I believe this is "vocation" instead of vacation. Vocation means one's regular calling or business. In this case it would mean while court was being held. Lucille susyq@fidnet.com