Please join the new Missouri Genealogy Group at Yahoo! Just go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Missouri_Genealogy/join in order to join this brand new group. Also if you are interested you may also wish to join the Gasconade County Missouri Genealogy Webring by going to: http://edit.webring.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/membercgi?ring=gasconadering&addsite -- Sincerely, Carol Southard sweetcake@fastdial.net Sweetcake's Place! http://www.geocities.com/carolannsouthard/ My KOSARK / FISHER Gasconade County Missouri Genealogy Website http://sweetcake.tripod.com/

All the Best Carla, & keep that determination going. Our prayers are w/you Jeannine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carla" <leighton@pacifier.com> To: <MOGASCON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 7:01 PM Subject: [MOGASCON] UNSUBSCRIBE > UNSUBSCRIBE > > > I am Unsubscribing from all mailing lists, for the present time. > > We have had a terrible Family EMERGENCY this week-end. > > Plus the STRESS of my pending Surgery to try and save my right leg has been > scheduled for 22 JUNE 2001. I have to donate enough Units of blood, to get > me through the Surgery before they will operate. > If the inner compressed infection and the complete knee replacement can not > be done, then the leg will be amputated. > > My grandmother Sedalia RUCKER Dexter had her leg amputated when a teen ager, > my Uncle, when in the prime > of life, lost his. They both lived GOOD lives well into their years. Our > step-grandson had his amputation before 3 years of age, played football, > basketball, baseball and swimming. > So you can see , we are a determined bunch. > You don't think that the RUCKER Blood in these veins has anything to do with > that, DO YOU.!! > > I will still be working on my Genealogy and Family Research, > just will not have time to answer so many e-mails that come with belonging > to the mailing lists. > > If we are working on a project, please continue with me on it. > I just have to cut down a little, from the present 10 to 16/18 hours per day > to 6 to 8 hours per day at this time. > When not at home, I will always have my notebook computer with me. > Please continue to keep in touch... > For those that I was to send my address, that are sending Documents and > Records, I will include my Snail Mail Address following this E-Mail. > > The Researchers that are working now, on the Rucker Projects, I will > continue Full Time with you on our work. > > Everything must be sent to my Private E-Mail at: > leighton@pacifier.com > > I will still be checking my E-Mail. Even while I am in > the hospital, if and when I am able to. So, Please keep in touch. > I know it will help to keep my mind off all my troubles and my aches and > pains for the next several months. > > Thanks for your understanding in this most difficult time. > > Keep in touch > Carla in Oregon > leighton@pacifier.com > > _______ _______ > CARLA V. LEIGHTON > P. O. BOX 737 > SEASIDE, OREGON > 97138 - 0737 > > leighton@pacifier.com > > _ > > > ==== MOGASCON Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation? Gone longer than 4 days? Please unsubscribe with no other words but this one word. > Single messages Users, send to Mogascon-L-request@rootsweb.com > Digest Users, send to Mogascon-D-request@rootsweb.com > Do not add anything else but the one word.... unsubscribe > > >

The very best to you Carla. You will be in my prayers. Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carla" <leighton@pacifier.com> To: <MOGASCON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 5:01 PM Subject: [MOGASCON] UNSUBSCRIBE > UNSUBSCRIBE > > > I am Unsubscribing from all mailing lists, for the present time. > > We have had a terrible Family EMERGENCY this week-end. > > Plus the STRESS of my pending Surgery to try and save my right leg has been > scheduled for 22 JUNE 2001. I have to donate enough Units of blood, to get > me through the Surgery before they will operate. > If the inner compressed infection and the complete knee replacement can not > be done, then the leg will be amputated. > > My grandmother Sedalia RUCKER Dexter had her leg amputated when a teen ager, > my Uncle, when in the prime > of life, lost his. They both lived GOOD lives well into their years. Our > step-grandson had his amputation before 3 years of age, played football, > basketball, baseball and swimming. > So you can see , we are a determined bunch. > You don't think that the RUCKER Blood in these veins has anything to do with > that, DO YOU.!! > > I will still be working on my Genealogy and Family Research, > just will not have time to answer so many e-mails that come with belonging > to the mailing lists. > > If we are working on a project, please continue with me on it. > I just have to cut down a little, from the present 10 to 16/18 hours per day > to 6 to 8 hours per day at this time. > When not at home, I will always have my notebook computer with me. > Please continue to keep in touch... > For those that I was to send my address, that are sending Documents and > Records, I will include my Snail Mail Address following this E-Mail. > > The Researchers that are working now, on the Rucker Projects, I will > continue Full Time with you on our work. > > Everything must be sent to my Private E-Mail at: > leighton@pacifier.com > > I will still be checking my E-Mail. Even while I am in > the hospital, if and when I am able to. So, Please keep in touch. > I know it will help to keep my mind off all my troubles and my aches and > pains for the next several months. > > Thanks for your understanding in this most difficult time. > > Keep in touch > Carla in Oregon > leighton@pacifier.com > > _______ _______ > CARLA V. LEIGHTON > P. O. BOX 737 > SEASIDE, OREGON > 97138 - 0737 > > leighton@pacifier.com > > _ > > > ==== MOGASCON Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation? Gone longer than 4 days? Please unsubscribe with no other words but this one word. > Single messages Users, send to Mogascon-L-request@rootsweb.com > Digest Users, send to Mogascon-D-request@rootsweb.com > Do not add anything else but the one word.... unsubscribe > > NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net

UNSUBSCRIBE I am Unsubscribing from all mailing lists, for the present time. We have had a terrible Family EMERGENCY this week-end. Plus the STRESS of my pending Surgery to try and save my right leg has been scheduled for 22 JUNE 2001. I have to donate enough Units of blood, to get me through the Surgery before they will operate. If the inner compressed infection and the complete knee replacement can not be done, then the leg will be amputated. My grandmother Sedalia RUCKER Dexter had her leg amputated when a teen ager, my Uncle, when in the prime of life, lost his. They both lived GOOD lives well into their years. Our step-grandson had his amputation before 3 years of age, played football, basketball, baseball and swimming. So you can see , we are a determined bunch. You don't think that the RUCKER Blood in these veins has anything to do with that, DO YOU.!! I will still be working on my Genealogy and Family Research, just will not have time to answer so many e-mails that come with belonging to the mailing lists. If we are working on a project, please continue with me on it. I just have to cut down a little, from the present 10 to 16/18 hours per day to 6 to 8 hours per day at this time. When not at home, I will always have my notebook computer with me. Please continue to keep in touch... For those that I was to send my address, that are sending Documents and Records, I will include my Snail Mail Address following this E-Mail. The Researchers that are working now, on the Rucker Projects, I will continue Full Time with you on our work. Everything must be sent to my Private E-Mail at: leighton@pacifier.com I will still be checking my E-Mail. Even while I am in the hospital, if and when I am able to. So, Please keep in touch. I know it will help to keep my mind off all my troubles and my aches and pains for the next several months. Thanks for your understanding in this most difficult time. Keep in touch Carla in Oregon leighton@pacifier.com _______ _______ CARLA V. LEIGHTON P. O. BOX 737 SEASIDE, OREGON 97138 - 0737 leighton@pacifier.com _

Good morning all, Just to inform everyone, that the 2001 Helmig, Helming and Helmich Family Reunion will be held on August 12, 2001 in Owensville, MO at the Memorial Park. Hope to see everyone there !! Fay Mesa

Our Families Brick Wall.!! Do you have any information on the Following, that you would share with us? ___ Was Betsey staying with other relatives, in the Counties or States where we have posted this, In order not to be an embarrassment to her children? ___ We are Looking for DIVORCE Records: Or a Division of Property due to a Divorce Settlement: Sometime between *1841/42 to *1846.. ___ The reason that we believe there was a Divorce _______ 1. 1824 Elizabeth R. Betsey McCluer & Ambrose Legrand F. Rucker,lll were married in Bedford County, Virginia The names that they have went by are many combinations. Example: A.L. Rucker, A.L.F. Rucker, LeGrand F. Rucker, Betsey Rucker, E.R. Rucker, etc...etc... We have a copy of the Marriage Record, Statement of Permission from Father, Betsey was underage. Daughter of: Sarah Sally Hardy and William Alexander McCluer ___ 2. 1830 Relocated to Saint Louis, Missouri ___ 3. 1831 Relocated Franklin County, Missouri ___ 4. Four Children born in Franklin County, Missouri. 1834 - Ambrose LeGrand F. Rucker, lV 1836 - Clifton Tinsley Rucker 1839 - John Quissenberry Rucker *1842 - Sarah Frances Rucker ___ 5. *1846 Ambrose LeGrand F. Rucker married, Wife #2, Susan Elizabeth Branch, Daughter of Levi and Nancy Branch. All of Franklin County, Missouri. We have a copy of the Recorded Marriage License / Certificate ___ 6. 1848 Wife #1 Elizabeth R. Betsey McCluer Rucker Appears in Circuit Court, Saint Louis County, Missouri Documented as being present in Court Records ___ 7. 1849 Wife #1 Elizabeth R. Betsey McCluer Rucker Appears in Saint Louis County, Missouri Circuit Court Documented as being present in Court Records ___ 8. 1849 Ambrose LeGrand F. Rucker Appeared in Franklin County, Missouri Circuit Court Was given Gaurdianship of the above named four children Recorded Circuit Court Gaurdianship Document Where Was Elizabeth R. Betsey McCluer Rucker.? ___ 9. 1850 Census, Betsey and Ambrose's four children are in the household of Ambrose and Susan Rucker ___ 10. 1850 Census where was Elizabeth R. Betsey McCluer Rucker.? ___ 11. 5 June 1854 Elizabeth R. Betsey McCluer Rucker passed on. ___ Any help on the above that you are willing to share with us will be greatly appreciated. Thank You C & D in Oregon Please E-Mail information to: leighton@pacifier.com ___

I do not know if this will be allowed on a mailing list or not, but here goes. I just received this and does it ever hit the nail on the Head.. We have had several friends and relatives that this has happened to in the Past ten years. What a pity. One must prepare for that day. {{It must be in Writing,}} If it is not, then the family ( executor) can do what ever they want to do with it and you can do nothing to stop them. Please put it into writing as what you want done with all those little pieces of papers, the files, information on your computer and boxes of what other people call junk, etc...etc... Remember you MUST have it in writing. C & D in Oregon __ | " A GENEALOGIST'S NIGHTMARE " | | Dear Cousin ////, | In response to your letter, I am sorry to inform you that grandpa " Fred " | died some time back and the stuff you asked | about is not available. The personal property the family did not want was | old at an estate sale. All those boxes of junk | did not interest a single buyer. We were able to salvage several binders | for the kids homework after we sent all the paper | to the incinerator. The kids really complained bout having to lug all that | paper and pictures of those ugly old folks to the dumpster. | | An old family Bible from the 1840's did bring $5.00. The one from the | 1870's did not sell. There also was a bunch of | floppy disks that we were able to reformat and download some games for the | kids to play on their new playstation. | At least SOMEBODY got some good from the three generations work. | | I saw the fellow at a flea market a couple of weeks ago and he said he threw | the Bible in the trash after nobody was | interested in it. He said he got an offer for fifty cents for it, but would | rather burn it than give it away. He seemed to | be having a lot of success with some very nice Elvis paintings at his booth. | | The two aunts you asked about are also dead. They were such a delight and | could talk all day long about the things | papa had written about. I remember them saying something about some | records that were copied from two | courthouses that later burned. | | Neither ever wrote down a single thing. The letter you referred to was one | he typed up and sent to lots of folks who | wrote him. He laughed about them never getting any of his hard work as well | as his Fathers and Grandfather who was | in the Civil War. He guarded all the information carefully to the bitter | end. I wish I could remember some of the things | to help you, but I was bored to tears listening to them talk about the | family members who were in the civil war and those | silly pieces of paper he showed so proudly. I vaguely remember they had | some beeswax seals and something to do | with the land grants that were destroyed in the courthouse fires. | | I wish I could remember the story about his grandfathers evening with | Jefferson Davis when he was on the run. There | are also some very juicy stories that were handed down, but I don't remember | them very well. Another thing I remember | after he got sick was some fellow calling him and he agreed to let him come | down and copy all his material. He told him | he would call him back when he felt better. Papa mentioned something about | letting the society the man was from have | all his work SINCE NOBODY IN THE FAMILY CARED anything about a bunch of | people who had been dead for 200 years. -- Papa died the next week. -- | | I am so sorry papa and the two generations WASTED so much of their life on | such WORTHLESS HOBBIES and | hope your family will follow something more interesting. We enjoy Bingo and | bowling very much here in Pleasantville. | | I really enjoyed hearing from a long lost cousin and would like to hear back | if you find anything important. | The kids need the computer for their games and I need to go watch the " Millionaire " show. Your Cousin, //// Where is all your Research Files going? Where is all those Tombstone and Old Pictures going? What will happen to all the $$'s you spent on researching for those ARTICLES that you only have HALF finished? People that " DO NOT SHARE " deserve to have all their work destroyed when they pass on. I have had many that did not even return a reply to my queires or just plainly state " I DO NOT SHARE, " or " It has just cost me to much to get what I have." Why Not Preserve Some of Your Family History. "" SHARE IT WITH SOMEONE TODAY!!! "" It is a shame that one cannot understand that " SHARING IS CARING " ___

We are sending this to everyplace we know Betsey had family. If you know, would you please share the information with us? Do you have any information on the Following questions.? First a little History, on the Elizabeth R.McCluer Rucker, that we are looking for, because there are so many Elizabeth's. ___ 1809 Elizabeth R. Betsey McCluer was born in Virginia. 1824 Elizabeth Betsey McCluer & Ambrose Legrand F. Rucker,lll were married in Bedford County, Virginia 1830 Relocated to Saint Louis, Missouri 1831 Relocated Franklin County, Missouri Four Children born in Franklin County, Missouri. 1834 - Ambrose LeGrand F. Rucker, lV 1836 - Clifton Tinsley Rucker 1839 - John Quissenberry Rucker 1842 - Sarah Frances Rucker JUNE 5, 1854 Elizabeth R. Betsey McCluer Rucker, Passed on ___ QUESTION.? Where is Elizabeth R. Betsey McCluer Rucker buried.? Cemetery? Township? Town? County? State? Date? ___ Information after she passed on. 1858 Elizabeth R. Betsey McCluer Rucker is listed in Bedford, Virginia Superior Court as Deceased. Deed & Will Book A, Page 230 - 231, 1810 - 1863 ___ Does anyone know of where she is buried, that will please share the information with us? It would be greatly appreciated. Thank you C & D in Oregon Please E-Mail information to: leighton@pacifier.com ___

A copy of an 1875 map of Gasconade county can be found here http://www.mindspring.com/~philipp/gasconad.html. It can be a little hard to read but can be saved and then manipulated with software to be able to read it better. It was nice to be able to find my great-grandfathers farms on it. Curtis Schneider

Oops! Lois Puchta's telephone number is: (314) 486-2633 M. McManus

I think at the time I ordered the Plat Map, I sent the order to the following person: Mrs. Louis L. Puchta, Treasurer Gasconade Co. Historical Society P.O.Box 131 Hermann, MO 65041

In a message dated 4/14/2001 10:46:45 PM Mountain Daylight Time, MKMCBA@aol.com writes: << I purchased a 1870 Gasconade County Plat Map from the Gasconade County Historical Society, Box 131, Hermann, MO 65041 about 3 years ago. It was a thrill to be able to find my Great-grandfather's farm. M. McManus >> Wonderful.. does anyone have a phone number for the Historical Soc? Would like to know how much $$ to send.. Ellie S.

I purchased a 1870 Gasconade County Plat Map from the Gasconade County Historical Society, Box 131, Hermann, MO 65041 about 3 years ago. It was a thrill to be able to find my Great-grandfather's farm. M. McManus

This is from a cousin who volunteers at the NARA archives in Ft. Worth.. I thought she might know where to get a map of Gasconade Co... Below is her reply!! Ellie S. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- << Re: [MOGASCON] 1875 Plat Map Date: 4/14/2001 11:08:39 AM Mountain Daylight Time To: EllieSS Ellie...there was a company back in the 1870s who did maps of many (?all) places in the U. S. I've seen the one for Rutherford Co, Tn and was trying to find who sells it now (if they do). In process of trying to locate it, I found that other members of the Beers family also made maps of various places in the U. S. (not just D. G. Beers). The Library of Congress on line, has a listing of some of these maps which they have. I don't know if Missouri was among them but I seem to recall Illinois? I don't have the URL for Lib of Congress, just do a search. That's about all I know. These maps had one thing in common: made in the 1870s and showed property owners and exactly where each lived in the county. Plus churches, towns, etc. Have a great Easter. Joyce The 1878 D.G. Beers Map of Rutherford County The map is a copy of the original done in 1878 by the D.G. Beers Co of Philadelphia. >>

I need a look-up in the Gasconade County 1880 census for Isaac Rhodes, born 1844. He should be listed with his wife Martha J. Thanks for any help, Vickie

RUCKER -- BRANCH -- McCLUER RESEARCHERS: I have hit the old Brick Wall, can anyone help.?? I believe they would be in the above three Family Lines. This family could have been in the following places... Virginia -- Missouri -- Arkansas -- Kansas -- Georgia.. _______ Can anyone IDENTIFY the FAMILY below and share information and documentation that you might have on them with me.? Or at least tell me where I could find it, as I know some researchers that do not like to share anymore because other researchers have abused that privilege... _______ ***_______ THE MYSTERY FAMILY _______*** 1870 Woodruff County, Arkansas - Census, page 488, Freeman Township: LeGRAND F. RUCKER {Was he REALLY - Ambrose LeGrand Franklin Rucker lV}?? age 37, farmer - $12,000/1500 Born: Franklin County, Missouri Mary P. Age 28, keeping house b: Virginia John I. Age 11, at School b: Missouri Charles L. Age 6, at home b: Missouri Edward T. Age 2, at home b: Missouri { WILLIAM G. RUCKER } Born: Virginia Age: 43 Without ocupation, Due to a medical condition Thomas Hindman Age 25, (black) Farm Laborer b: Arkansas Joseph Hayhurst Age 24, Farm Laborer b: Ohio -------------------------------------------------- Maiden name of MARY P.? ___ WHO is this WILLIAM G. RUCKER.? Who were his parents.? How is he related to LeGrand F. Rucker.? He had a sister Mary Ann Elizabeth Rucker married to Augustus Barbonney/Barbarna. Who were they.? Franklin County, Missouri - Marriage Records Book B, Page 53 State of Missouri, County of Franklin I do certify that I joined together in Holy Matrimony according to law on the 24th day of July 1847 Augustus Barbonney and Mary Ann Elizabeth Rucker, presence of A. L. Rucker and Susan Rucker. Given under my hand this 24th day of July 1847. John Jones J.P. Recorded August 19th, 1847 How are they related to A.L and Susan Rucker.? _______ There parents.? Location & Date of their Birth and Death.? ________________________________________ You can E-Mail information to: leighton@pacifier.com Thanks in advance for your help... Thanks CARLA in OREGON leighton@pacifier.com :>) _______ (<:

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try checking Missouri Department of transportation General Services Division Mapping Graphics Section P.O. Box 270 Jefferson City Mo 65102 sometimes the county courthouse can tell you if they have any or the Historical Societies have sources Give them a call BJ Jonas

Does anyone have (or know where I can obtain) copies of platt maps for the Berger area during the 1900 to 1950 time frames? Other detailed map images of the area, especially around 1930's would be useful. James Birkholz birchwd@flash.net Researching Graupner, Scheible and Oberg in Gasconade county.

UNSUBSCRIBE from Mailing List due to being in the Hospital Personal E-Mail only I will be back To many unanswered questions from so many of you Thanks for all the information sent by all Thanks CARLA in OREGON leighton@pacifier.com